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- Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2023
- Hey Gang! We've been super busy over here at the site getting all the final things organized and ready for insulation and drywall and man we were NOT ready. One of the reasons it's taking us so long is because we don't want to forget ANYTHING once that insulation/drywall goes up. How fun is it to be back with Joel installing this insane Meter setup and digging for our electrical service! Thanks for watching as always, we've got some bangers coming so keep your eyes open!
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Missed you Guys 😉
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Y'all need to hire an up-and-coming videographer from one of the local schools to film, edit and post content for the channel. I know it has to eat into your time to do all the post filming production to get these uploaded. What does everyone else think? Maybe even a buck or two from everyone to increase content output.
here in missouri it is required to have an expansion fitting on the pvc pipe coming out of the ground into the meter can, is that not required in texas?
WE MISSED YOU!! 😄😄😄
Letsgooo Ive been waiting for this upload
You know it’s a great series when you find yourself checking daily for new updates!
I do the same thing lol
Thank goodness I'm not the only person doing that hahahaha
I know.. At the beginning when Paul said in the last video they did electrical.. I had to go on the channel and confirm I didn't miss one haha.
I was starting to experience withdrawal symptoms!
i am almost caught up and im not looking forward to having to wait for new epidsodes lol
Paul, you could easily be a presenter on any building television show. Watching these videos reminds me of "this old house" or other actual TV programs on this subject. The editing and filming is very professional too. You guys are doing such a great job from top to bottom. The building, the filming and the presentation. 💯 fellas! 👍💪
Thanks for brining us along for the ride. 🫡
Joel is the type of electrician I would happily give my money to.
I'm sure it costs a few bucks to get on a call with him, but I've got a little work coming up while the wife is out of town, and if I run into a head-scratcher, I'd bet good money that he's cheaper than an electrician call-out when all a person needs is some good advice!
I was so surprised to see two of my favourite youtuber contractors working together. Great team work
Hey guys. Recommend a 3” expansion coupling where you come out of the ground into your meter.
It’s actually required here in Tennessee. I knew there would be a comment here.
What does this do? Is it for movement or cold weather issues? Thank you.
@@sterlingmullett6942 the pipe will always settle with time. Without the expansion coupling the forces will break fittings, bend the metal boxes or split the pipe from the fitting leaving the wire exposed to weather and damage.
@@ScrewThisGlueThat I see. Thank you. Yeah, they should probably cut that three inch pipe and affix an expansion coupling. Hopefully they will see your comment.
Here in New England they are a requirement as well
Dudes! I was about to start a 12 step program. Thanks for the fix 😂.
PVC for backer board is the same way I do all my electrical panels. Nice to see that great minds do think alike.
Where do you get them from
Wouldn't something a bit more fire resistant be better? Or at least something that won't spew toxic smoke when on fire?
@@MikrySoftRubber floor mats?
@MikrySoft yea, you're right. Anything can always be better.
@@baxtronx5972 I was thinking more in terms of fiber cement siding ("Hardie plank")
I put a little flux on the LIKE BUTTON, torqued it down, backed it out, re-torqued, then got an extra quarter turn on it.
Random audio at about 3:20 over Senior talking about his PVC slab haha
Taking those stakes out of the ground--I saw the Perkins Builder Brothers use a long 2x4. They screwed the 2x4 to the stake and used the length of the 2x4 to raise the stake by lifting up on the 2x4. Fast.
The connector at the meter WILL break when the 3" PVC settles you need an expansion coupling below the meter.
Paul, I'm not sure what the code requirements are there, but either way you may want to consider installing an expansion joint in the conduit vertical riser below the meter socket. It will protect conduit/meter socket damage from the settling of the earth in the trench.
You guys are doing a great job. I can't wait to see the finished project!
Also you need schedule 80 above ground, sch 40 below grade. Joel eluded to requiring an expansion coupling below the meter socket
@@grounded-b937Joel did mention the requirement for sch 80 above and 40 below!
In SE MO we need them on our underground electrical services too, isn’t part of the NEC that I have ever read, but per the utility gold book out here they require it. Also sch 80 is just for the connection that comes out of the ground since it is subject to physical damage. Awesome video guys!!!
A farm jack works great to pull out fence posts when you do not have an excavator or are in tight quarters. They are about $50. Also, if you wrap your chain under itself (half hitch) when you wrap it around the 2x4, it will not slip when you are pulling.
I've never worked with Joel directly but I've worked with some people at his company on several commercial projects. I highly recommend them. Good people.
Here the utility requires an expansion fitting coming out of the ground to the meter and an inspection by them prior to backfill
This is some of the best content on RUclips. Period. I'm a musician on the west coast and I get such a kick out of the quality you guys are pumping out. I'm reminded of an old saying... "Do you see a man who excels in his work? He will stand before kings; He will not stand before unknown men." You guys excel by every means. It's an absolute joy to watch!!
If you like this you would also really enjoy Victory Outdoor Services.
@@waynegoin5534 Thank you, Wayne! I appreciate the share!! Cheers! 🙏
in the future, make sure you run a pull rope through a conduit made for internet before you glue it together, will make running lines much easier. When it comes time to run a network wire, you pull the network line through the conduit with the pull rope along with a new pull rope. Electric lines of that size are stiff and can be pushed through, fiber line not so much. For now i might suggest some fishing line attached to a small ball and some compressed air, push that through then with the fishing line pull a pull rope through it. Mind you i have 200ft fiber line in the ground connecting my startlink mounted on a 65ft tower to my house so I've used the pull rope before.
Since they didnt do that i would suggest a light string tied to a plastic grocery bag and sucked thru the pipe with shop vac
@@Kreativekarpentryofficial ohh never thought about suction and a grocery bag.
That was totally stressing me out, after seeing them fight with the big cables in the garage I can only imagine how much fun it will be to run the supply cable through that 90....
I would have left the hole open and put the pipes unglued in the hole and left them there until the electric company came to run the cable, while they are running the pipe through the pipe pieces id be right behind them gluing them up. then once done fill the hole.@@funkygawy
@@fixitfixitfixit My electric company wants everything done prior to inspection. From metal riser, to primer and glued PVC, to schedule 80 36"/24" sweeps, panel to building, mule tape installed... Everything before they will come out.
Whether it’s code required or not as a home inspector and apprentice electrician I always highly recommend an expansion coupling below the meter. It’s almost impossible to install afterwards and you’ll be in a world of hurt if that conduit ever pulls out of the connector and exposes the utility side service entrance conductors. I’d ask Joel his opinion though, he will know better than me! Awesome work as always guys!
its code in my area for sure
Seems to be code for colder climates but the warmer climates don't seem to take expansion into consideration 🤔
I would have done one for sure. Mine has moved a bit during the years. I'm glad I did one.
definitely should have an expansion joint at the bottom of the meter socket. ground is not compact and will settle over time
@KeyDx7 look into getting outdoor duct seal it's electrical plumbers putty than maybe get some flex tape ?
Good work. One question from a career electrician. No slip joint on the conduit riser between the ground and the meter base? They are required in a lot of areas. Ground movement can bust the conduit when rigidly attached to the wall and meter base. Keep up the good work.
Jordan... Have you considered much less wired for 10 Gigabit Ethernet (at least to the NAS and 2.5 Gigabit to your workstations) within your garage build since you'll have Fibre Optics incoming... Where do you plan on having your NAS located? Have you considered rack mount NAS and ethernet switch? Which NAS are you planning on getting? Personally, I favor QNAP for the job...
The hole for the SCR cable is more like a Princess Leah(star wars) than a Mickey Mouse. Lol
At the end near the road, I would have buried a 2.5 box over the pre-dug line for the utility connection. So you only have to dig up 6 inches, remove the box, then presto. As long as you don't have to drive over that area until the utilities are hooked up.
People are in awe of all of the cosmetic upgrades when they walk into a remodel or new home. I shed a tear when I see beautifully laid out and installed HVAC, electrical and plumbing work.
Have you thought about putting a small retention pond in the back corner of the yard? Over flow from big rains could go out to the street. There are ways to build it to keep mosquitos to a minimum.
"The slab-is-too-low-sayers". Love it, Jordan!
There were definitely quite a few of them!
You get to cover a lot of work in that town without inspection.👌
When you terminate the conduit on your new pole, make sure the open end of the conduit is LOWER than then termination at the house, AND make sure there's some waterproofing on it, so that it doesn't get a lot of water in it.
And since the pole side will be lower, when that conduit does fill with water, it'll drain on the pole side, not into your meter box.
Ask me how I know.
For your hand digging between the garage and white fence, try a tiller attachment or separate tool to till up the dirt down to a layer you want and then it’s easy to remove the dirt. Remember, you want some top soil for grass or sod thickness accounted for.
Just throw down grass seed. They'll be fine😊
Sure hope that back yard neighbor loves all the water they will be sending his way.
Don't forget to liquid flash all the exterior nail and screw holes in the Zip sheeting.
Recently found your channel and I can’t stop watching! Paul did I hear you say you were 57? I’m 55 and there’s no way I could keep up with you brother! Your a beast! Looking forward to your future videos!
thanks! I'm 60
18:35 When hand digging those stakes, use a pressure washer wand to soften the dirt on one side. Or drive a couple of big screws thru the stake, and lift it out with a portable "jack."
Was literally just saying to my self, “ damn still no new stud pack vid.” 10 minutes later y’all deliver!
Very interesting. The last time I built here in Georgia, the power company ran the line from the street to the meter. I am rather surprised that you guys did not have to have that conduit inspected before covering it. Also, here I have never been allowed to put more than one type of service in the same trench. One time I was using a 36 inch bucket and I was going to put the various utilities in the groove made by the teeth. I thought it was a cool idea as that would ensure that they were all evenly spaced apart. That prick of an inspector would not even let me backfill and bury within the area where the ditch was. He insisted everything had to have its own ditch. They would have been exactly one foot apart all the way (150 ft. ). Would have made locating later so easy.
I wondered about this too. I'm pretty sure my utility requires inspection first as well.
You should have ran pull wire through your conduit. Awesome job though. I like how you showed the elevations, I have been a critic on that in the past.
any reasonable shop vac will suck a pull string through that length with no trouble.
I was getting worried something had gone wrong! Great to see you dudes again!!
Great video, good information! In case people try to copy and repeat... For tracer ribbon you actually want to install that up the vertical riser pipe and wrap around a foot or two of it at ground level or maybe so that you could just see some of it otherwise nobody knows it's there so there will be no way to detect it. Detectable marking tape (tracer wire / ribbon) is used for locators not metal detectors. Therefore you have to energize it.
Also another pro tip: swing the house of the mini x when using the blade up against the picket fence so your boom, stick and bucket can be tucked away neatly. 😊 Good work guys Hope this info helps you for further videos.
Can you just use a 14/2 as a tracer wire? What do you normally run ?
@@walnutcontractors5661 You can it's just way more expensive and you're putting two wires in the ground. I use 18 gauge or 20 gauge single copper wire but that's a little expensive too so I like underground detectable tracer tape. Plus the tape has words on it so if you're installing gas it's pretty important to let people know there's gas underground. Usually you would bury 1 to 2 ft and then lay down the detectable / tracer tape with the words gas on it. Then continue burying the rest of the way flush with the ground.
This way when you start digging if you hit the tape you know within a footer to the gas pipe is below the tape so you never hit the gas. 💪
Its great to see trades people who want to do exceptional work.
31:50 that’s why it’s on TOP of the dirt! 😂😂😂
Love the vid's - as always. Question: Doesn't a local inspector need to ensure that the power is at proper depth? How would they confirm that?
Great update on the garage. Not sure if it has been said, but I would have recommended a pull string in stalled on those 60 ft runs, 2-3ft deep is a bit deep for a pull box, but pull string would be a idea.
Electrician in Iowa here guys, content is great keep it up!
I'm thinking your inspector or AHJ might have you add a slip joint coupling in on your service riser so just be expecting that, and no, they are not cheap for a 3" 😂
You also know it's great video when it feels like it's been forever since the LAST Stud Pack video! Awesome work guys , look forward to every update!! 👍❤️👍
Man, this is what you call “Top Shelf” electrical service!!
A GOOD RULE OF THUMB IS THE TOP OF THE FINISHED CONCRETE/ FLOOR IS TO HAVE IT 18 INCHES ABOVE THE CROWN OR THE HIGHEST PART OF THE STREET BECAUSE OF FLOODING IF THE DRAINAGE GETS BLOCKED OR BACKED UP
I /love/ the idea of giving the house to local fire fighters to do a couple days of training with. Give them a reach chance to practice venting, cutting, breaching. Could be a fun video.
Props for thinking ahead with the 1 inch conduit most utilities are requiring it now. Are you planning on also running a 1 inch flex conduit from the outside of the house to your demarcation point for all of your ethernet cables? Hopefully y’all planned for a Network closet that would be a great place to run it too. Especially if you’re going to add cameras and hardwired Ethernet to devices.
I don't disagree, but I wonder if it's really needed these days? Being hardwired is great and reduces interference, but considering wifi speeds, except for the most data intensive systems (home security cameras, video backups, home nas, etc) most computers, phones, gaming consoles, should work fine with a decent wifi setup. Although having a network closet couldn't hurt, just thinking the expense may not be worth it.
Thoughts?
@@sterlingmullett6942PoE availability is a lot better for fixed network appliances like door bells, cams, even lighting than wifi and having to recharge batteries.
My recommendation would be to pull a conduit all the way around to under that stair well where the switch board is going to be and then land your WAN connection there into a network rack.
Then all the structured wiring can land there too and make it nice and neat.
Just keep any ELV wiring at least 50mm away from LV wiring and it’ll be sweet.
@@sterlingmullett6942 While you can connect most devices with wifi, interference is a thing that you need to plan ahead for. Also, you probably want your wifi hotspots to be hardwired, and maybe a few more devices will require it too. It's a relatively small expense and saves a ton of headaches in the long run.
Also, you don't need a full on network closet, there can be minimal equipment in there.
When you guys are ready to address the drainage permanently, you might want to reach out to Apple Drains in FL. Top notch work and he's got a really great channel of his own.
Apple Drains is a great creator.
Since I finished binge watching all of Stud Pack's videos and I anxiously await other videos from you guys, I have been binge watching "Brad the Builder" on RUclips and Paul is a lot like Brad! You guys are the best two channels out there. Fantastic work and enthusiasm.
I thought I was doing something going from 100 to 200amp...🤯
That idea about having the sheet of PVC or something behind meter is genius. If I ever get around to changing the siding, I am definitely doing that.
I did my 27 ft of trenching by hand - only had to be 20" down (so the PVC was 18" below grade). That was for 100 amp subpanel in my garage and 200 amp upgrade in my basement. Old main panel became that subpanel. This is cool seeing a killer garage build. The house build will be even better too! I'm glad they are getting solar too. It just makes too much sense with sunny roofs. I have 2 arrays and I'm up in Michigan.
@@whattheschmidtWhat would you need that many amps for? And is it legal?
@baxtronx5972 of course is legal, 200amp 240V service is very common. I want 100 amps in my garage to charge EVs. I have 1 50 amp 240V circuit in there. I also have my 5.4kW solar array into the subpanel in the garage.
Loved the collab with Joel!
I’ve got multiple new construction projects going on in my neighborhood. Rather than be annoyed by the buzz saws and nail guns, I just remind myself that is the sound of progress and the StudPack is hard at work making new videos for us!
I was a power company Distribution Engineer for 27 years. I approve your design. 🙂 Your neighbor will appreciate locating the generator in the back yard. 😅
We use the expanded PVC board instead of plywood for marine seating. and that price seems insane. We pay something like $125 for a sheet of 1/2 and like $170 for 3/4
Your electrician was awesome. Perfect choice for this episode. He could definitely have his own show.
Hey guys glad to see some more progress! On the line into the meter you need to install a slip collar fitting so should it settle (They all do!) It does not pull out of the meter Box. Also I believe so jurisdiction require 400 amp service conduit have a small hole on bottom of sweep 90, at lowest point to facilitate drying of condensation, rain or penetrating ground water. At least my last 4 residential and 2 commercial did. Great call on other conduit, its also good to put one in for cable cause they do not like cohabitation of there service lines.
No way in my area. A couple of 3/16" holes will do the job and not allow bugs in. Code states that any holes over think.its 1/4" must be filled in.
Am I the only one who wants to know more about that PVC Board? Lol Paul! We need the deets! :D
An expansion coupling also makes it much easier when entering meter equipment. I hope Joel catches this before wire gets put it
I've been watching Joel for a couple years because he's so freaking professional, super glad to see this team up.
Old ranchers trick when pulling those stakes, use a chain and a short section of post or other, hook the chain to the bumper of your vehicle and over the top of the post set at an angle, it till cantilever the stake out.
Awesome got my “Stud Pack” fix FINALLY!!!
Why dig the stakes when a Hi-lift jack, a couple of lag bolts and a chunk of chain would be way faster and less work? Great project, can't wait to see what's next!
When you go to grade that side by the fence, rent a DR push tiller so you can break up that dirt and then it’s just a matter of wheeling it out. Shoveling loose dirt is a whole lot easier than breaking your back digging it out.
Watching you folks grow your channel like this has been a great adventure. I subbed when you had only 40K subs and look at you now! Well on your way to 1M subs. Congrats to all of you for the awesome videos, great team work, amazing results and wonderful folks.
That dirt work was pretty cool to watch
you broke the footing lol classic
In my area all water must stay on property and no grades may be set that drain runoff onto either city or neighbor's land. You are fortunate to have building codes that allow grades for runoff from your property. Nice work so far you could have bought a single sheet 1/2" PVC and glued them together saving you some money. Ray
Most Meter and panel installations give me heartburn - y’all’s looks fantastic. Love the PVC backer!
I’m not sure what was more epic, watching the digging of the trench or listening to the epic time lapse music. Great video guys. Hope all is well in Tx. It’s getting cold up here in Mi!
Love ❣ this video , always love ❣ SP. videos , - from a U.S. perspective , but this one SPECIAL as in UK just west of London ~ I am a Chartered Engineer ~ IT. Electrical , brilliant as always thank you ' nice ! ' 🔌👏👏👏
You should look into installing an in-wall pest control tubing system before drywall for future pest control maintenance
Just a quick question. Are you willing to share how much you are spending on this build? Materials, Rentals, tools etc? Maybe a running total at the end of the video? I understand if you don't want to just thought it would be informative. Great videos, great energy, great relationships between the 3 of you.
And how much does the mistakes cost?
That mini-excavator is adorable and a force multiplier for that kind of work!
yall aught to get some straw and put it around the perimeter of the house now that you got the foundation cleaned up. It'll help prevent any mud from splashing back up onto the sides of the house.
My wife loves the Stud Pack stud.
Great work!
Looks great !
Joel rock the electrical world. How to do the work the way it should be done.
I assume you will be replacing the picket fence (as a good neighbor😊). What kind will it be? Same as existing?
I remember the tadpoles in that old driveway at your mom’s house, Paul!!
Guys, check every day for another adventure into your build. Talk about an operator. Takes the excavated dirt and places it far enough away to be able to drive the machine between the spoil pile and the ditch. Good Job!
Great job !
Another great video, love seeing progress!!
Great work as always guys
@13:24 Mrs Kravitz is watching you!!
SP I think you’ll have to seal those beveled edges on that PVC sheet. Cutting it leaves open “cells” that can hold moisture. Over time mildew will grow in them leaving a green or brown stain.
Heat gun? Then prime & paint.
No need to seal...it's impervious to mold or rot. Best stuff in the world!
Where you even find those boards, I can’t find them
@jeremyfields9925 the stuff I used is called AZEK. Google is your friend 😮
@@chrisosti next time you get some pvc trim, cut it. You’ll see while the outside surface is smooth, the inner part will feel rougher. This is the inner “cell” structure of PVC. Unless you seal that surface, over time water, dust, and dirt can accumulate. So you would need to clean it regularly or it will discolor.
Well done and explained as always.
Everything is looking wonderful. Your videos are more polished now. Jordan is more confident and comfortable which comes from experience. The explanations and always striving to look ahead and do it right or better is a joy to watch. You all make a good team. Get Rad in there as much as possible, he’s a beast and funny. Keep the videos coming Studpack
Great work and great content.
Good to see you guys again.
Glad to see you guys back 😊
Great progress.
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for sharing
That neighbors dog is forever keeping a watch 😂. Did anyone name it … studpup?
Great electrical work looking awesome
Been waiting for this!! Nice work Stud Pack Team.
love it guys.. Great job!
Thanks fot putting all these videos together! You are rocking it!!!
First, the connectors that were used for the backside of those enclosures are not correct. What was used are SEU rated, in which what should have been used was SER ( Round Throat ) connectors for the Service Entrance Round cable. You cannot use flat clamps on round cable. Unfortunately, that is a code violation. Second, I highly recommend a expansion coupling under that meter base, whether or not it's code. Third, at least 3-4 1/4" weep holes ( * in line) should have been drilled for the belly of the 3" ( Service Lateral ) at the lowest point in the event of water infiltration. Thumbs up to Joel for using the wire brush to spread the De-Ox. Most DE-Ox manufacturers suggest using wire brushes and many people don't. They just their finger which is not the proper way to apply it. Kudos to Paul for dressing the backing board with a chamfer. Nice touch!!!
A real high stakes situation there @24:28 😏