Yup. Like you had said earlier, I was expecting to see 4.3kw, so 5.0 was a pleasant surprise. And finally a saw that I won't have to convert to 3/8. I think those batteries will probably help the 82CS34 as well. If the 3.6kw saw is really 11.75 lbs, and can run well with the 4.8lb battery, a sub 17lb saw with almost 5hp would be pretty sweet. Really better in some ways than the 6.6hp saw for usability. Can't wait to try these out.
We in Europe get a CS36 3,6kw and CS45 4,5kw version of it. Under the brand "Cramer". Buying a CS45 and losing 0,5kw or importing the the OCS800 from the US?
Perhaps this is a peak power of 5 kW (read the advertisement as with batteries of 656 watts / hour instead of 576 watts/hour). I saw their ads before the release and they indicated the cs451 model with 4.5 kW power.
The battery page in the e-catalog is *fascinating*. Great news is that they are finally stating honest Wh for the existing lineup, e.g. 72V nominal * 5Ah = 360Wh. The Wh for the Optimus is slightly different, the voltage used to compute Wh seems to be 73.8 (!) which could mean either 1. The nominal voltage actually is higher, or 2. They are exaggerating a little to distinguish them from the existing batteries, or 3. They are using some normalized value of voltage as it drops from 82 to 72 during discharge, where 73.8 is some kind of median
Hello, I wish you the best wishes for the year 2025. Thank you for all that you do on RUclips, I watch all your videos. The new Greenworks Optimus series will be released, electronics are evolving rapidly. Will it be something else? All current chainsaws will be outdated. Progress cannot be stopped. I am looking forward to seeing the first tests of these new chainsaws as you are. Good luck.👍👍👍
With this type of power -5kw-6kw....Im gonna assume that greenworks has installed fan cooling systems inside both the saw and battery ? I would think this upgrade would be needed, when using these high power saws on hot summer days, without any downtime.
@davehimlin I've noticed that, for the first time, they do talk about cooling in the product description, see the eCatalog "Innovative Cooling System, Vortex Air-Duct Technology to maintain cool operation" (whatever that means)
@@BenDiscoe Cool....I would think a effective cooling system would now be needed, with these types of powerful saws. It would be very irritating to spemnd $1000-$2000 on a high powered battery chainsaw, only to find out the technology did not have built in cooling for both the battery and chainsaw. This class of expensive saws, are targeted towards pro arborists that will need to use the saw nonstop in high heat/ weather conditions.
Finally, it happened! Thanks for the information, and indeed everything is described in detail on the website (the black insert on the right side of the E-catalog). So the rumors aren't wrong. We are looking forward to them, perhaps they will appear in the European part a little later. I wrote to them on the website of an enterprise (factory) in China a couple of weeks ago about the release dates and information about saws. I received an answer that they will go on sale in March 2025.
@@Tihiroprjckuh9000 Three saws are no longer listed on the website even though the E-catalog is still there🤔. I dealer that I've been using said their rep told them mid to late February. I'm pretty excited for these saws to be released 👍👍
@@reusefull 🎉🎉🎉I see. Interestingly, other releases at the Louisville show indicated that the H.O.G. had a power of 4.5 kW. and the torque was indicated as 4.7 nm. (not listed in the catalog). Anyway, let's see.🦾🦾
@davehimlin I don't think the chainsaw you're referencing is 2.7kw. If you bought it already, just go as slow as you need to get it done. If you didn't, there is a sale on the 20" 80volt chainsaw with a 4ah battery and charger for $349
@davehimlin I have extensively used the 82V 2.7 kW saw that's sold in the USA (model 82cs27) and it was very nice, very strong, came with an 18" bar but managed ok with the 20" bar i put on it, it only required a little more patience to use (vs. my 3.4 kW saw)
@@reusefull I searched the specs online for it...and that model number claims to be 2.7KW power - 45 cc equivalent. GCS80421 is the model number. You do not think that info was accurate ?
Yikes it looks like prices have gone up considerably since this video. There website shows $1700 for the 28" 5kw saw. I'm interested to see you get your hands on one and see what the build quality is of it.
@kkasper3 I saw that too, $420 more than they originally listed it for😕. I'm interested as well, but I was originally thinking it was a fair price... twice as much as their current flagship, but now almost 3 times as much, it seems like a pretty big leap.
Utterly insane price tag. I have a gut feeling, that these will not be decent sellers....even if they are the most powerful battery saw on the market, the price is just to high even for most pro arborists. IMHO. ...lets do the math - 5kw saw for $1700 + tax...or 2.7kw saw with battery and charger for $279. Your paying 6x more to get less then 2x the power rating.
@davehimlin really depends on how you look at it. Again, from a homeowner perspective, it's a lot harder to justify. But IF the power rating is really accurate (which is questionable and will be tested) this is the same power as a Stihl 500i gas saw that sells for $1600, and they sell plenty of those. IF they're REALLY manufacturing a PRO level saw, that weighs the same and can charge batteries in less than 30 minutes, they could have something. If they don't, we'll probably see some good sale prices after a bit🤣, but if you look at battery top handle chainsaw prices, the ones that pros use, cost more than the big 20" battery saws even though they are smaller and less powerful...
@@reusefull I think the majority of pro arborists, that make a living doing it, are still not major supporters of the electric chainsaw option....even when they can be purchased for around $300 new in the 2kw-3kw power ratings. Ill be surprised if they are wanting to pay around $2000 for a 5kw setup ,. Now maybe if Greenworks were to offer a full replacement warranty on both the saw and batteries for at least 3-5 years, it may be much more appealing to pro arborists, who would certainly be using the saw in the most harsh demanding conditions. FWIW, im still using my greenworks 40 volt - 14 inch chainsaw I purchased years ago and I love it, even though its power rating is around 1 kw. As long as I keep the chain sharp and let the saw do the cutting, it cuts nicely , even on oak.
@davehimlin I guess only time will tell, but it is exciting to me that they have made these developments. I think power to weight is a big thing right now. Gas is still in the drivers seat there. I'm having fun getting these saws out, but it's getting pretty costly😅
HOLY GUACAMOLE it finally happened! Or will happen in February, I guess. My top question is whether the "optimus core" batteries are identical form factor to the existing 82V batteries, or "almost" like the 82V vs. the 80V. I'm gonna go study that catalog now
After studying the catalog, I'm guessing that the Optimus 82V are in fact 100% interchangeable with the existing 82V line, same form factor and grooves.
Just bought one of their chainsaws on your recommendation. They had it on sale on their commercial site for less than I could get one at the store, so it seemed like a good idea. Only 60v, but I hope that'll work with the two batts I have for my weed whacker. For the little work that I do, I'll be happy if it survives a couple years without any issues. That it had the magnesium bottom plate was the real seller for me. Too much plastic just feels cheap and toy-like. Will their 60v model run a 20" bar like they say? We'll find out!
@threeriversforge1997 The 60v with the magnesium should already be a 20"... I hope the sale you got was the 60v 20" with the 8ah battery and charger for $349. I think that's less than you can buy the 8ah battery for and it really needs that big battery to run right.
@@reusefull That's exactly the one I snagged. It was the only one they offered with the mag bottom, and I hope it'll work with the 6.0ah and 2.0hc batteries that run the weed whacker. They're the LB602 and LB606 batts. No idea if they'll work with the CS60L810 but I'm hoping they'll be at least decent for light work, especially if I switch to a shorter bar. Most everything I can see myself doing would be on trees and brush that's small, so a 20" bar really is a bit overkill.
@threeriversforge1997 that's a good deal for sure. The 6ah will probably run it pretty well, but the 2 will probably not @toolhombre has one and he said it cuts out very easily when being used with the 4ah battery. The kit comes with an 8ah anyway, so you've got that👍
I am pretty sure I had heard that they are pouch batteries. Also, given how fast that they can charge to 80% and 100%, they are unlikely tabless cells.
@@reusefullI found the original Greenworks blog that stated the batteries coming out are pouch packs. “With an astounding 4.3 kW superior brushless motor, the H.O.G. Saw is packaged with a 6 Ah pouch pack and dual port charger.”
@@ashrayhanasoge7217 OK. I'm not sure how to pull it off the website, but sometimes you can change your setting or specify a countries website. I've searched Ego's EU site because they had specs that weren't available on the USA site.
@John-cj3ve Haha, I think the big Ego will still have promise when they come out with tabless/pouch cells for Ego. My problem is that I can't sell any of my chainsaws until I test them all to see which one is boss. But I have a good guess how it will go.
@@John-cj3veI'm really hoping they addressed the battery problem. The last 2 Greenworks Commercial flagship saws needed more battery to run than they came with.
THANK YOU! Finally some great news from Greenworks!
Yup. Like you had said earlier, I was expecting to see 4.3kw, so 5.0 was a pleasant surprise. And finally a saw that I won't have to convert to 3/8. I think those batteries will probably help the 82CS34 as well. If the 3.6kw saw is really 11.75 lbs, and can run well with the 4.8lb battery, a sub 17lb saw with almost 5hp would be pretty sweet. Really better in some ways than the 6.6hp saw for usability. Can't wait to try these out.
I see MY 36" battery operated chainsaw coming to fruition this year!😁
We in Europe get a CS36 3,6kw and CS45 4,5kw version of it. Under the brand "Cramer". Buying a CS45 and losing 0,5kw or importing the the OCS800 from the US?
Perhaps this is a peak power of 5 kW (read the advertisement as with batteries of 656 watts / hour instead of 576 watts/hour). I saw their ads before the release and they indicated the cs451 model with 4.5 kW power.
The battery page in the e-catalog is *fascinating*. Great news is that they are finally stating honest Wh for the existing lineup, e.g. 72V nominal * 5Ah = 360Wh. The Wh for the Optimus is slightly different, the voltage used to compute Wh seems to be 73.8 (!) which could mean either 1. The nominal voltage actually is higher, or 2. They are exaggerating a little to distinguish them from the existing batteries, or 3. They are using some normalized value of voltage as it drops from 82 to 72 during discharge, where 73.8 is some kind of median
@BenDiscoe definitely curious about that. Maybe pouch packs have a slightly different nominal voltage???
You are right!
Напруга падає від 82(84)V до 56V, а не до 72V. 72V це номінальна напруга батереї.
Hello, I wish you the best wishes for the year 2025.
Thank you for all that you do on RUclips, I watch all your videos.
The new Greenworks Optimus series will be released, electronics are evolving rapidly. Will it be something else?
All current chainsaws will be outdated. Progress cannot be stopped.
I am looking forward to seeing the first tests of these new chainsaws as you are.
Good luck.👍👍👍
@@jean-marcbriane7283 Thank you! It looks to be an exciting year!
Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
With this type of power -5kw-6kw....Im gonna assume that greenworks has installed fan cooling systems inside both the saw and battery ? I would think this upgrade would be needed, when using these high power saws on hot summer days, without any downtime.
@davehimlin I've noticed that, for the first time, they do talk about cooling in the product description, see the eCatalog "Innovative Cooling System, Vortex Air-Duct Technology to maintain cool operation" (whatever that means)
@@BenDiscoe Cool....I would think a effective cooling system would now be needed, with these types of powerful saws. It would be very irritating to spemnd $1000-$2000 on a high powered battery chainsaw, only to find out the technology did not have built in cooling for both the battery and chainsaw. This class of expensive saws, are targeted towards pro arborists that will need to use the saw nonstop in high heat/ weather conditions.
This will be exciting.
Finally, it happened! Thanks for the information, and indeed everything is described in detail on the website (the black insert on the right side of the E-catalog). So the rumors aren't wrong. We are looking forward to them, perhaps they will appear in the European part a little later. I wrote to them on the website of an enterprise (factory) in China a couple of weeks ago about the release dates and information about saws. I received an answer that they will go on sale in March 2025.
@@Tihiroprjckuh9000 Three saws are no longer listed on the website even though the E-catalog is still there🤔. I dealer that I've been using said their rep told them mid to late February. I'm pretty excited for these saws to be released 👍👍
@@reusefull 🎉🎉🎉I see. Interestingly, other releases at the Louisville show indicated that the H.O.G. had a power of 4.5 kW. and the torque was indicated as 4.7 nm. (not listed in the catalog). Anyway, let's see.🦾🦾
have you used the greenworks 18 inch GCS80421 chainsaw..and if so, were you happy with it when cutting oak/hickory ? I think it is the 2.7 KW version.
@@davehimlin I have not used any of the 80v series, sorry.
@@reusefull 2.7 kw should do well cutting thru oak and even hickory as long as the chain is sharp ?
@davehimlin I don't think the chainsaw you're referencing is 2.7kw. If you bought it already, just go as slow as you need to get it done. If you didn't, there is a sale on the 20" 80volt chainsaw with a 4ah battery and charger for $349
@davehimlin I have extensively used the 82V 2.7 kW saw that's sold in the USA (model 82cs27) and it was very nice, very strong, came with an 18" bar but managed ok with the 20" bar i put on it, it only required a little more patience to use (vs. my 3.4 kW saw)
@@reusefull I searched the specs online for it...and that model number claims to be 2.7KW power - 45 cc equivalent. GCS80421 is the model number. You do not think that info was accurate ?
Yikes it looks like prices have gone up considerably since this video. There website shows $1700 for the 28" 5kw saw. I'm interested to see you get your hands on one and see what the build quality is of it.
@kkasper3 I saw that too, $420 more than they originally listed it for😕. I'm interested as well, but I was originally thinking it was a fair price... twice as much as their current flagship, but now almost 3 times as much, it seems like a pretty big leap.
Utterly insane price tag. I have a gut feeling, that these will not be decent sellers....even if they are the most powerful battery saw on the market, the price is just to high even for most pro arborists. IMHO. ...lets do the math - 5kw saw for $1700 + tax...or 2.7kw saw with battery and charger for $279. Your paying 6x more to get less then 2x the power rating.
@davehimlin really depends on how you look at it. Again, from a homeowner perspective, it's a lot harder to justify. But IF the power rating is really accurate (which is questionable and will be tested) this is the same power as a Stihl 500i gas saw that sells for $1600, and they sell plenty of those.
IF they're REALLY manufacturing a PRO level saw, that weighs the same and can charge batteries in less than 30 minutes, they could have something.
If they don't, we'll probably see some good sale prices after a bit🤣, but if you look at battery top handle chainsaw prices, the ones that pros use, cost more than the big 20" battery saws even though they are smaller and less powerful...
@@reusefull I think the majority of pro arborists, that make a living doing it, are still not major supporters of the electric chainsaw option....even when they can be purchased for around $300 new in the 2kw-3kw power ratings. Ill be surprised if they are wanting to pay around $2000 for a 5kw setup ,. Now maybe if Greenworks were to offer a full replacement warranty on both the saw and batteries for at least 3-5 years, it may be much more appealing to pro arborists, who would certainly be using the saw in the most harsh demanding conditions. FWIW, im still using my greenworks 40 volt - 14 inch chainsaw I purchased years ago and I love it, even though its power rating is around 1 kw. As long as I keep the chain sharp and let the saw do the cutting, it cuts nicely , even on oak.
@davehimlin I guess only time will tell, but it is exciting to me that they have made these developments. I think power to weight is a big thing right now. Gas is still in the drivers seat there. I'm having fun getting these saws out, but it's getting pretty costly😅
HOLY GUACAMOLE it finally happened! Or will happen in February, I guess. My top question is whether the "optimus core" batteries are identical form factor to the existing 82V batteries, or "almost" like the 82V vs. the 80V. I'm gonna go study that catalog now
After studying the catalog, I'm guessing that the Optimus 82V are in fact 100% interchangeable with the existing 82V line, same form factor and grooves.
Just bought one of their chainsaws on your recommendation. They had it on sale on their commercial site for less than I could get one at the store, so it seemed like a good idea. Only 60v, but I hope that'll work with the two batts I have for my weed whacker. For the little work that I do, I'll be happy if it survives a couple years without any issues. That it had the magnesium bottom plate was the real seller for me. Too much plastic just feels cheap and toy-like. Will their 60v model run a 20" bar like they say? We'll find out!
@threeriversforge1997 The 60v with the magnesium should already be a 20"... I hope the sale you got was the 60v 20" with the 8ah battery and charger for $349. I think that's less than you can buy the 8ah battery for and it really needs that big battery to run right.
@@reusefull That's exactly the one I snagged. It was the only one they offered with the mag bottom, and I hope it'll work with the 6.0ah and 2.0hc batteries that run the weed whacker. They're the LB602 and LB606 batts. No idea if they'll work with the CS60L810 but I'm hoping they'll be at least decent for light work, especially if I switch to a shorter bar. Most everything I can see myself doing would be on trees and brush that's small, so a 20" bar really is a bit overkill.
@threeriversforge1997 that's a good deal for sure. The 6ah will probably run it pretty well, but the 2 will probably not @toolhombre has one and he said it cuts out very easily when being used with the 4ah battery. The kit comes with an 8ah anyway, so you've got that👍
@@reusefull Good to know. I'm looking forward to giving it a spin.
About time some one got smart and iis building a real battery saw.
I am pretty sure I had heard that they are pouch batteries.
Also, given how fast that they can charge to 80% and 100%, they are unlikely tabless cells.
@@ErikAsquith I wish I knew. The tabless Forge batteries charge at a 12amp rate. 16 is pretty fast
@@reusefullI found the original Greenworks blog that stated the batteries coming out are pouch packs.
“With an astounding 4.3 kW superior brushless motor, the H.O.G. Saw is packaged with a 6 Ah pouch pack and dual port charger.”
Milwaukee uses tabless and charges 2 amps faster.
@@reusefullthey charge at 18amp in the new super charger
@@TheFanatic340 I can see that I'm going to have to peek inside these things when they arrive!
Could you share this e catalog?
@ashrayhanasoge7217 all you have to do is go to the Greenworks Commercial website and it's a side tab on the right. You pull it out and there it is 👍
@ I don’t have access to the USA website and that’s where it is posted at the moment
@@ashrayhanasoge7217 OK. I'm not sure how to pull it off the website, but sometimes you can change your setting or specify a countries website. I've searched Ego's EU site because they had specs that weren't available on the USA site.
@@reusefullit doesn't work on my phone or tablet, both of which are android.
Are you using a Windows computer to be able to see the catalog?
@John-cj3ve no, just my android phone. You can't pull the tab out?
Cool👍😎 👍
That is promessing.
Test review for subscribers 💪💪💪👍
Can I sell ya a coupla big EGO chainsaws cheap?
@John-cj3ve Haha, I think the big Ego will still have promise when they come out with tabless/pouch cells for Ego. My problem is that I can't sell any of my chainsaws until I test them all to see which one is boss. But I have a good guess how it will go.
@@John-cj3veI'm really hoping they addressed the battery problem. The last 2 Greenworks Commercial flagship saws needed more battery to run than they came with.