Audiophiles still love iPods and so do I
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We love em because an aussie guy reminded us on how great these are
Person of culture, i see
UGH MY PKCELL
these dinguses do be really good
Damn that Aussie with his pet snake and his green iPad cover...Dragging us back to the stone ages 😅
5 bucks off from CASHIES
0:46 Seeing my Rockbox theme from 10 years ago on your iPod Classic (Googley-Classic-Storm) got me jumping out of my seat 😊 Glad you like it! I must confess, I haven't used my iPod classic in years.
P.S. Be careful with using the Classic with IEMs. If the latter have an impedance that is lower than 8 times the iPod's output impedance (which is about 5 ohms, IIRC) then the frequency response may be altered.
Wooa I Will ask the theme name! Using iPods again in Brazil!
Loved Rockbox. Thank you for being a part of the community
are there better alternatives or newer iPod Classics that you would recommend more?
@@alextechtai The very last model is the best model, as far as audio performance goes. For Rockbox, I don't know of a better option, especially if you modify the iPod or buy it already modified (e.g. with an SSD instead of a hard disk drive). Outside of Rockbox, I remember that the iPhone at the time (iPhone 5 or 5S) was slightly better. These days I mostly care about practicality and I just use my iPhone with bluetooth headphones.
@@alextechtaiiPhone 5/5S was a pretty good one. Still have my original 6G classic, but modded (big accu, SD card storage), love to rock that thing with my beyerdynamic 250 ohm DT990.
I still love my 160GB Classic. It is the jukebox in my old car.
That's what I want to use mine for, but there's a lot wrong with it and I don't really know exactly what. Tried to pry it open but I have the model that has like 50 clips around the edge which makes it nearly impossible to take apart, at least without damaging or scratching the exterior...
@@K9V1 Take it to an Apple store and get it looked at. I took in a broken one and they sold me a new (rebuilt one) for a good price, although that was in 2017.
can you please make video on how to install Rockbox OS.
Totally great idea, I give this a big thumbs up please DMS 👍
bro it's all out there on the rockbox official site
You download the rockbox utility, run it and follow the onscreen instructions.
Please
I have 3 of them, but only use one -- in my alarm clock with the old-school iPod dock. Which was such a neat idea, i miss things like that.
But for personal carry, I converted my old phone into a DAP by removing and disabling everything but a single music app. Suddenly it had a surprising battery life left in it.
Shoutout to you for this, hadn't thought about using an old phone but it makes total sense.
@@anachronismic Apart from perhaps a better DAC, the insides are the same.
@@dragons_advocate Yeah, imma have to have a dongle dac in my case, but given I have both that and a phone sitting around it seems like it's easy to try out.
@@dragons_advocateas long as the dac has enough power to drive your headphones and no distortion it honestly makes no difference.
I did this with my old Galaxy S10E. Compact size, SD card slot and a headphone jack! Using a HiBy FC1 dongle for higher audio quality when I prefer it. I use Productivity Launcher for a minimal DAP-like experience and disable all other apps other than audio apps installed.
I love my Classic because it's a musical snapshot for me from when I got my 3rd gen in 2003 my junior year at college to 2017, the last year I had loaded anything new on it.
I started really using it again last year after a couple year hiatus and it's still great even in stock form.
yes
I love my iPods back then. Had a couple of "Classics" and a Nano. Those along with several early portable Fiio amps via the line out were golden for me then.
This was a BRILLIANT video, please do more like this!
Rockbox? Now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. Glad to see they’re still going ❤
I remember the sansa clip+ days
I just installed Rockbox on my sansa fuse+ they're sill going
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the iPod classic sixth gen because I still have mine with a laptop drive in it, and I’ve been thinking about either going towards the 5.5 general or just getting an SSD to install into this. Your video has helped sway my decision towards just getting an SSD for my current iPod.
Even for what it is, with just the bare bones mid tier JBL headphones I have from 2016, it still sounds so wonderful.
My favorite artists to listen to on it are the Beastie Boys, Bob Dylan, and The Aquabats! and mostly because the Beastie Boys have a song that is listed with sound testing in universities.
I always tell people if you can’t hear both the bumpin bass and the high keyboard note at the same time in Beastie Boys “Brass Monkey”, then your setup needs help .
Whilst I didn’t own an iPod classic in its heyday, I have a fondness for them due to how simple and easy it is to use and modify. I own a 5th Gen that got Frankensteined with a 7th gen front and hard-drive whilst getting a new screen and battery, but I haven’t touched it since iPods blew up again (thanks to the dankpocalypse (no shade, I was happy they got the recognition they deserved)) but seeing this video makes me want to dabble in the missing stuff again. Like putting flash storage in, or shove a Taptic Engine in for a little umph in my music choosing experience.
Loved the vid man! Thank you for showing off your cool iPod too 💪
Fantastic! I dug out my old iPhone and it works perfectly. It has come back to life. Thanks!
Still run my 5.5 gen iPod with CF card conversion and custom housing. I keep 2 solid state converted models spare. They live in my cars lol. I also still keep my green iPod shuffle for bike riding.
Am I seriously about to dig out my old iPod classic from “that bin” and do this right now?
lol me too… same thoughts 😂
definitely worth it, give it a shot!
Did u? >.>
lol same
Recently picked up an early 2000 Sony MiniDisc Player. I love it. It forces you to be discerning with what music you'll take out.
People who listen to music on MD, DCC, MP3, Spotify and RUclips have hearing loss because they are incapable of detecting the loss of captured sound from these terrible formats.
I love minidisc bro! It's awesome!
@@manieartis2687 The minidisc is low quality just like the iPod, Spotify and RUclips. CDs and WAV files sound so much better because they capture all the sound.
@@judenihalOr people just enjoy physical media or free access to music
@@NolanEgbertthe Compact Disc is the way to go then
Extremely delighted to see Everything Everything as the artist being played on the iPod
Ditto what a pleasant surprise!
Indeed. A man of culture
I've been using a DAP of some form or other for around four years. Had I got an iPod classic back when they were still prevalent, it'd still be using it today.
I see they have a lot of merits, like repairability and recycling and price, something that is somewhat of a grey topic with modern DAPs, not many guides as of yet on the repair side due to the niche area.
Software wise, that all depends on what your library is mainly comprised of, rockbox is great if you can set it up right (personal experience hasn't been the best) to make it a stand alone device.
The main draw backs I've seen is the dated connection port and I can see people would like having bluetooth connection ability. There has been a project called Moonlit which has a new case back that circumvents both problems that I'm hoping to personally test at some point. If that proves to be a good deal, a modded iPod will become my travel DAP, better to lose something that can be kit bashed together than a modern device worth a few hundred more.
I got the FiiO KA13, their highest end USB dongle because I thought I needed that extra power. Later I didn't end up needing that much power and regretted my purchase an dwish I had the FiiO BTR 15 (wasn't a thing when I got the KA13) or a DAP. But since then I've been more and more satisfied with the KA13 and am happy with just that.
I started with my ifi zen dac paired with philip fidelio x2HR and I remember I genuinely teared up when I booted up my first tidal song. The instant shock from the clarity and sound stage that I experienced was incredible having come from cheap wireless earphones. since then I've grabbed quite a few more bits. Fiio KA13, Letshuoer S12 Pro IEM's, Shanling M3 Ultra Dap, Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT2DS (I love these) and my newest addition the Fiio BTA30 pro (for my 4k player). Unfortunately it's an expensive hobby as you don't want anything less than the best sound possible, I even paid to replace the windows driver to provide LDAC bluetooth.
I wouldn't consider myself an audiophile, I don't dare get into the technical or tinkering of sound, I just want to appreciate music how it's intended to be heard.
I didn't know this was a thing. Some advice on what guide and hardware to use for modding an iPod would have been helpful.
For a good time, look up Dankpods for some of the hardware mods and repair.
There’s plenty of videos around for this :D the community has been great bringing iPods back to life 😊
You apparently don’t know google is a thing either
Great video, even better hoodie!
Many thanks, that was really good. I've got the last generation Classic and you have motivated me to use my IE600s on it as well. I love the design. I've got A&K SP3000 with HiRes music and a walk around SR35 but the Classic is a beautiful standalone.
The only thing that's stopping me from using an iPod again is getting my Spotify library to an iPod
spotify down website lets you copy your playlist link and download an mp3 of all the songs
spotifydownloader - thank me later
trust me my guy, with a little time, you'll get all of your library to your iPod. Im not about to give out sauces but uk, if u want some, drop ur @
I thought that too but decided to go slowly building my iPod again (lost all my library when my old HD apparently died). Just on my car rides the sound is SO MUCH BETTER, even using Spotify on high quality, is not the same… so well worth the trouble
@@MA-xd9zl IFKR! On the stereo its king!! But just rmbr to slowly import ur files tho. Apparently and this happened to me as well if u import a bunch of songs all at once the songs can get corrupt like fake titles, bad album art. Etc
Honestly, I'm super happy with using Tidal or just shoving a load of my own files on my phone and playing stuff over a BTR5 - feels like the most convenient option for my use case really.
After digging out my old ipod touch a few weeks ago, I'm not sure I get why everyone is raving about using these old devices. If anything, the main enjoyment I've had out of digging out my old ipod has been listening to some old songs I had on there which I hadn't heard for the best part of a decade in some cases and definitely not on nicer gear. Between my desktop DAC and my little dongle
playing high res files and the stuff on my ipod played out of that, I much prefer the former so that's what I'll be sticking with.
My goal for the future is to build an offline library on a home server which I can either access online through something like Roon or by copying files across onto different devices. I suppose a dedicated music player could slot in somewhere in the future but it feels much easier just to spend a bit more on a phone with a tonne of storage for my music when I'm on the go.
Same here. As much as I’d love to be one of these people who can leave the house without having their phone and go running at the park with nothing but an iPod in their pocket, most of the music I love I’ve not physically bought yet and streaming it is the only way I can listen to what I want on the go. I have 20 ish albums on CD that I could put on an iPod but I’d easily wear those out and the cost of getting an older iPod + getting physical copies of every album I could ever want to listen to would cost a whole lot of money. Some would mention pirating and I’m not above that, but risking prison time or extreme fees just isn’t worth it. I’ll stick to streaming.
Really cool that you can dual boot to either the standard Apple OS or Rockbox. I see from previous comments below that Rockbox supports FLAC instead of only ALAC like the Apple system. Nice. And love that you can drag and drop files instead of having to go through iTunes which was always a pain. How hard is it to load Rockbox on an older iPod? Is there a link to how to do that you could provide? I'm pretty sure the DAC chip and implementation in an iPOD can't compare to a "real" DAP but for casual listening when out and about on IEMs or easy to drive headphones, they were always a nice, easy to carry device. Thanks. I might have to dig mine out of the drawer now.
"love" is in the title. That's how you know it isn't an Andrew video
Pffffhahahaha
I have a collection of ipods and other old music players that i've modded myself. I started because i wanted something to listen to while writing but without any possibility for distractions. And then i decided that one was not enough and that I should definitely have a bunch all with different types of music on them. Last one i got (and probably one of my favorites) is my Zune Halo edition. Either that one or my second gen iPod. Big bricks of music.
I have 3 ipods still in use! Including one in my car. Yes, Love them! They are still wonderful
I've purchased a couple of Ipod Classics ever since they were first launched in the early 2000's but sold them all except for one, they were neat for the time but there was no proper 10 band EQ setting, just the terrible built in EQ presets, I still have fond memories of me enjoying so many songs on one tiny device which for the time was cutting edge in the early 2000's, but now is pretty standard.
I've had my mother's old iPod for years now, never used it, finally started and was loving it till the hard drive gave out. Didn't back up my music but i made sure to redownload everything again onto some usb drives and i have a modded iPod coming back to me in a few days, i can't wait to get back on it
Love the hoodie!
I still have two iPod Classic, both with battery and storage updated. Rockbox has some limits (the battery estimation you mentioned is very annoying), but it is well worth being iTunes independent.
If apple were to release an updated iPod classic capable of downloading Apple Music playlists to it with a hifi DAC and usb C, that would revolutionize the market… again.
I have loads of iPods, mainly Nanos, and 3 Classics (5th gen and 2 6th gen). Love them all and use them all.
Never stopped using them since the first one I got new, the iPod Mini 2nd Gen. I've had an iPod in my pocket pretty much constantly for 20 years now.
I think phone manufacturers should include the 3.5mm jack in their phone designs
4.4mm balanced is way better than 3.5mm but is too large to ever justify using on a phone. It's better to move on from 3.5mm altogether and to use something like the M15/CMA18P to sidestep the issue
@@MrJester831what about 2.5mm balanced?
@@buckethead420 it would be too easy to snap while the phone is in your pocket. The same problem also exists for the 3.5mm and it's also unbalanced. 4.4mm is the best option as it's considerably stronger and balanced without being outrageously large like 6.5mm. Back when phones commonly had 3.5mm jacks it was a constant issue with jacks getting damaged accidentally
Nice hoodie and vid!
You sold me on the DSP/EQ features in Rockbox.
I wish you could provide more info on the mods. I’m trying to revive my old piece for 2 months now and I’m still completing the parts list so it’s a one time operation. What adapter/storage combo did you use? Do you have original battery or an upgraded capacity one?
what are those pads on your 7506? they look nice
My question still remains for DMS. You recommend DCA E3 for portable headphones. What pocket friendly DAP can you drive for DCA E3 for best sound quality?
Love my iPod, used it all the time (with my IEM,s)
Where do you get your music, do you use FLAC or waves
Love my iPod and 64Audio u12t combo.
My iriver H120 was flash with rockbox , man the memory , it's cool to see that because the hardware on the apple is pretty good , the OS was the biggest no go.
I used Rockbox on my iriver H10. Man those where the days !
iPods, umm have 2 of them. A 20G Gen3 B&W and a 60G Gen3 Colour. The 60G is still in the car glovebox and only recently stopped serving as CarPod duties, attached to a BMW OEM head unit, in an ‘03 Coupe. Since Roon ARC was released this has been my go-to source, running on a iPhone Mini 12, I have access to my entire local library in whatever format & version I have stored it in, plus all of Tidal, at either CD, MQA or now FLAC HiRes. Dongle is a Ztella Pro MQA and IEMs are MP145 for mobile listening, and the iPod integration in the car, gives upto 24/48.
Local library is circa 9Tbytes of music, 110k albums but over 63% in 24-bit. Don’t see the need for the older tech here, unless you want to be nostalgic.
Where did you buy the new housing? And the other parts you used to mod it?
Did you preorder a Tangara? I think it's a pretty cool project as it's all open. I've got a couple classics as well. One with microsd. Transfer could be quicker and I wish they had bluetooth transmission.
Love this video! I've a 5.5Gen ipod Classic with the memory upgrade to take 4 micro sd cards. Sounds great with IEMs. Are there any other mods apart from battery? Think there were other upgrades which ended up with diodes hanging out of the iPod which I'm not interested in. Will have to research....
these diodes do bot have to hang out of the 5.5 😂
@@buckethead420 Yeah I see that now, last time I looked at this was many years ago, I think one of the earliest mods did have that. Doesn’t look like there’s any other options to upgrade the sound been developed in the intervening years though….
What back is that you have on your ipod? looks aftermarket. I like it.
If you've done a battery mod I think rockbox lets you set the amount of mah it has, might help with the estimation
Cool you mentioned it briefly, but what IS the best sounding IPOD ?
Are you guys going to review the Bose QuiteComfort Ultra headphones?
Interesting review. I have one with a more robust battery, but the unit itself was now way too light for me. Felt like a feather. So the tech guy added lead to give it a more satisfying weight.
Who’s your tech guy? I’ve broken the battery connector off the board and would love to get it repaired.
I have an ipod 5.5 video. The H/P out D/A converter isn't very good, and the built in EQ presets were terrible except for "Latin" & "Rock" (which were both close to what I like). Any modern music, mastered loud, would digitally clip with the EQ presets. I had to make copy of all my audio files, and gain them down 4-6db, so I could use the EQ presets. However, I loved the Sony MP3 Walkman's that came out in the late 2000's. I then got a Fiio X3 which was nice, but pain to use, and then finally just started using my smartphones.
Don't have one but ever since spotting the mods you can do to them, can't seem to forget them :)
love the see-through cases too!
I just have a question where can I get the music it’s not like before like the old ways now is no places to download music do you know some website ? Thanks
I grew up with an 80GB iPod that I saved up $250 USD for when I was 15, but nothing beats streaming today. My iPhone with Apple Airpods Pro 2 beat anything I had 20 years ago.
Have you ever listened to decent IEMs?
@@shankrl1 Yes
I still use two ipod classics with wadia170 transport..only changes the batteries works great, very convenient
have you tried the new walkmans?
I love it, back in the day, I owned a redwine modded iPod which the battery died, I would try this out.
Is there a stock style theme or a way to connect rockbox to your standard library? I want the oem experience without having to use itunes
How did you get this iPod modded?
I love my Questyle m15, what is the new dac called that questsyle is making?
I used to own a couple of apple DAPs - the 2nd gen, Nano and Classic, then there was a Creative Zen. Really convenient to have your music collection stored and ready to go. Since Fii0 started releasing their players I just fell in love with portable audio all over again.
I have fond memories of my nano 2. It eventually died in a washing machine.
Oh man, iPods we're like a status symbol when I was in high school (back around 2004-2008). I had an iPod nano 2nd gen. After digging it out after so many years, I found the screen to be completely broken. However, my wife's iPod nano 4th gen still works like a charm and is almost in brand new condition, so I'm starting to use that. I hope this thing lasts me a life time lol.
I got a 7th gen and modded it to hold 2TB and a 3000mAh battery, as well as swapping out body and face colors. I still use stock iPod OS, and it works great for me. I'm not an audiophile, but I absolutely hate having to charge everything these days so I insist on having wired earbuds and headphones and there are too many ads with streaming.
I have collected a 4th gen mono and photo, a 5th gen, a 3rd gen nano, and I already had a 4th gen nano. I have spent a decent chunk of change trying to get good audio out of my phone over the years. I find the BTR3 is pretty good for me, but the iPod classic 4 and 5 especially sound better still.
I have an iTouch 7th Gen. I have a lot of my own customized music on there that you can't find on streaming sites, so it works very well for me.
Do you think the qustyle m15 adds anything to iems like the ie600 over the ipod or other dongles ?
I noticed on my iPod, classic, if I turn the volume down to like 15% I can still hear it. If I did at all my phone, I couldn’t hear anything.
Can you let me know the model of the headphones you were using with your ipod. I recently upgraded a few of my old ipods. So im looking to match them up with good quality headphones / ear pods
Sennheiser IE 600. I have the 100's and love them.
Peace you too my friend !
what keyboard is that
where did you get the hi res offline song?
I was just listening to my iPod while walking through the neighborhood, sixth gen too. Very interested in this Rockbox OS, can't stand iTunes syncing. Hope hope to see a video about getting this modification.
What phone case is that on your iPhone? It looks great!
Super late to this reply but I dont believe he has a phone case on it. Modding companies sell brand new colored backplates and a lot of people swap out the old ones when they replace and restore the guts the of the ipod. I think he replaced the original silver with a black back.
@@anthonysiebenmorgen7216oh, I meant the case on his actual phone around 0:03, thanks for taking the time to write a response though :)
sick hoodie!
Hello very nice vibe. can you please make video on how to install Rockbox OS.
I have rockbox on mine... haven't switched out the hardware or anything, but it works well. I just wish Apple would bring back the Classic in a 1TB variant with no bluetooth nonsense. And I wish it can support 24/48 and higher as well. I have some really hi-res files that I've been purchasing from HDTracks and stuff, and call me crazy, but I do hear a slight difference from CDQ.
I've been needing to fix my ipod classic or maybe try to get it upgraded.
I have an ipod classic 7th gen, 1 of the 2 that my best buy store had left in stock. Last year it randomly stopped working, I think the hard drive is broken. It will power on but just wont work, tried resetting and restoring but, no luck.
Even though it's easy to stream on my phone, I really like having a separate device just for music. Specially when traveling, I don't worry about using up all my phone's battery. It's also nice to disconnect for a while yet, still continue to listen to music.
I think I've got the same problem as you. My iPod is stuck on the resetting loop where you can't get it out of it.
pretty off-topic question but does anyone know what microphone he's using? I was looking for a new one and I really love the tone and vibe of the one used here :))
what keyboard do you use
Two of my iPods are newer iPod Touch models. There is a photo adapter (dongle) that lets you connect to a USB cable and bypass the headphone jack. I connect the USB to an external dac and then to a headphone amp. It sounds great using high-end headphones. I'm not sure if the internal dac is bypassed (I think it is).
Hello. Can you share some more references on this cable? I'm interested in getting one. Thanks
My allmost 20 year old ipod classic still sits in my desk. It hasn't worked in 10 years; something about a corrupted hard disk, and no one in India seems to be able to be helpful. But I still have hope it'll work.
nice idea but where and how do you download the files these days? everything is streamed..
The first gen Shuffle is still really good. Only problem is that the storage goes up to a measly 1GB.
I have a Mini in a drawer somewhere, and at some point I'll get around to changing the battery, and replacing the HDD. But I am a bit scared to take it apart because I don't wanna mess up the lovely pink outsides.
i still got mine, has been idle since 2 years of usage. i had it filled with Music Videos
It’s not an iPod, but I use my Sony WM1Z all the time. It works great with my ADX -5000 headphones and my 64Audio N8 custom IEMs as well. I love having an all in one device that works anywhere
I love my A306!
Still rock my WM1A 😎👍
Sonys are SO MUCH better!
I KNOW it's NOT small, but... For a while I used an LG phone (I bought 2nd hand cheaply) that has the Quad DAC. I then installed 'PowerAmp' - my favourite music player (it IS a powerful app for listening to music with), and then loaded all my music (100Gb) onto it, and it was a great setup (WAY better sounding than my Motorola phone!!) 😏👌
😎🇬🇧
Love so much to watch DMS's videos
The way this guy talk about audio nerd stuff with so much passion is awesome
everything everything thumbnail LETS GOOOOOO
lets go indeed
Hell yeah
Please tell me if I can use headphones like the sennhaiser hd599/philips shp9500/audio-technica ath-m50x on my ipod?
I love the classic I just got simple for the amount of storage you can get
I know a lot of people are getting into iPod. I myself, along with a few others, are Zune users. Zune isn't actually half bad. I wish there were hardware mods like there are for the iPod, but I'm still glad to be listening to music on my Zune.
What's the difference between something like the Questyle M15 and the Fiio BTR5? I'm just curious bc coming from someone who owns a BTR5 it just seems more expensive for something with less features (that being Bluetooth) which if it's something portable that should be mandatory. I use both the USB input on my computer and the Bluetooth in my car.
I know I might be crazy but I was thinking about using a Dap more often but found my self looking into streaming services more when new music comes out. I wish I could use my iPod more but I tend to use my phone more and more as I find it harder to just get music on the Dap....
I never owned any of the iPod classics growing up and I love the one I put together. It’s a 5th Gen with custom front and back plates, 512GB storage.
The only prebuilt and Modded iPod I would be a Bluetooth 7th Gen with USB-C, and 1 or 2TB of storage.
Another good option for a cheap dap is a old LG G8. Runs Android 11. Has a quad DAC . 3.5mm jack. Takes micro sd cards. 1440p screeen. Flagship at the time Snapdragon 855 processor.