The first throw: a common type of uchimata sukashi. I learnt that version from my father who learnt it in the 60s or 70s in Yugoslavia. The second throw: kosoto gake. This variant of kosoto gake is used a lot by new judoka until they realise they are getting easily countered by uchimata. Rolling oguruma: banned in judo as it is a variant of kani basami.
@@UrbanDefenseSystemsLiterally, the guy who taught the technique said it is an uchimata. Chadi himself said that these techniques can be found in the gokyo, but are unique.
I may have missed which throws in the video are not found in Judo, Chadi. Although you may mean the ones not found or allowed in sport Judo, not combat Judo.
Thanks Chadi! I was telling John Danaher last weekend about your site. He wanted you channel information. Do you think we will ever get away with the titles? Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, American Jiu-Jitsu, New Wave Jiu-Jitsu, etc? And just call it grappling? John says NO, it's all about money. Keenan CORNHOLIO has a great video addressing the topic - ruclips.net/video/Zvnj_Y_eWwc/видео.html
This isn't a hardcore match but a randori between Inoue and Yoshida where another example of something similar to this comes up ruclips.net/video/Pb1bXF21NRY/видео.html
you forgot most popular sambo trow called obviv which is prohibited in judo . Obviv is very popular in sambo and freestyle wrestling it is combination of suplex and kawazu gake
I think the first 2 throws are variations of "Grapevine Takedown" from Catch Wrestling. I've seen Old School Catch wrestlers do it from multiple setups. And Catch was quite popular in Russia... maybe that's where Sambo picked it up.
I used to train Judo with a couple of very high level Russian Sambo players (they were both excellent black belt Judo players also). I asked them what they preferred Judo or Sambo, and both said pretty simultaneously they liked them both the same. They said one week we do Judo competition, next week we do Sambo competition. Their juji gatame was next level, and I have trained under and with Olympic Judo players several BJJ black belts, but I would rank their transitions into juji as good as anyones. I had one of them in my guard, and he stacked me so hard to pass guard I couldn't believe how he got so much pressure on my upper body, and he was 7kg lighter than me. Both great guys. ( BTW Gadavlia is a great throw, like a really committed tomi nage).
Enjoyed your comment. I would note one thing tho. Gadavlia and tomoe nage are not comparable. One is an arch (virtually suplex) another is a back roll. Any fool can do tomoe nage. Only a few - Gadavlia. Waaaay more complex throw. Also, Gadavlia is shaped like a sumi gaeshi not tomoe nage :)
We do some of these in "bjj" (the modern synthesis of grappling that is being practiced in much of the world under the name "bjj") and one leg entanglement from sambo that I've never seen in judo.
In my opinion: the "front Uchi-Mata-Sukashi" can be seen as a variation of Kawazu-Gake (changing the direction of the throw) or a variation of Uchi-Mata itself (changing the way to approach the leg), which I think is more adequate; the cross-grip Te Waza is definitely a variation of Sumi-Otoshi; next is a variation of Kata-Guruma; and the last one ("O-Guruma-Makikomi) should not be scored as a throw but rather as a form of Juji-Gatame from a standing stance, once in the motion there is clearly a stoppage when Tori falls down, and then he rolls into the armbar. It's hard to find a new technique in Judo, once it is defined by its biomechanics.
Couldn't be a juji gatame, seeing as the arm is completely outside the legs. I thought it was a standing entry to a premium sweep, but the entanglement is backwards! Very unique
Thank you Chadi for producing another brilliant video lecture on Sambo techniques. It is rich in throws etc. and I enjoyed it thoroughly. Once again thank you and God bless you and family!
ruclips.net/video/9sHpo6_XVbk/видео.htmlsi=A6uGNCB_MoQKGzPX Who is stronger Tasoev or Basaev? I would say: Tasoev. From physiognomy: In my eyes Basaev is more the wrestling type while Tasoev (however he is not tall enough for super heavy weight wrestling) is more the typical judo and Sambo type. Basaev's arms fill out the kimono. In wrestling you need these arms to press in judo you must develop the force by pulling explosively. Of course turning movements are different.
I think this an out of topic discussion because judo is, by nature, a voluntary substract of jiu jitsu technics... so if you want to compare which systeme is richer, then you should compare jiu jitsu to sambo...
You should make a video like this on the technique from 0:55 in bulgarian it is called Руска кука(Rusian Hook). It is something between ouchi gari and belly to belly suplex.
Any skilled judoka knows that this can happen if you loose control over your opponent, but it is true, I am not aware of any name for it. The throw at the end is illegal in modern judo. Nice commentary.
3:17 I dunno, I feel like som judges wouldn't see this as a counter but just you being thrown.. Although in the spirit of judo and the ippon, Tori is clearly taking the brunt of the impact from the ground.. This really goes back to the video you've made before where the concept of the ippon has been undermined so much that ippons are scored when people roll around and there's not even a hard impact.. a shame
just hit that counter uchimata yesterday during randori. not that beautiful but I got an Ippon from there. Nice stuff. Keep em coming this kind of counter.
A lot of jiu jitsu techniques are not found in judo. Judo has eliminated many of these take down and ground fighting techniques because of its athleticism. 8:05 there are old videos of judoka using the same technique as this and finishing it off with an armbar
Flying juji requires the near arm between the legs. What the Judoka did here is a variant of kani basami because Uke's legs are between Tori's, no arm.
Doing real work by studying History and Ethics of MAP even consistency of Mst. Mushari quotes is where the actual progress is going to derived to. Honest-to-God
Chadi sitting down eliminates the throw and take down, you can expect barambollos, inversion wrestle ups sweeps and leg lock entrys.....it is a tactics of many in BJJ. The practical application would be in the individual had a leg disabled or was not able to stand or could not risk a slam or a take down. There would still be a chance to execute a technique above, this would be a adaptation to Newaza and BJJ in self defense.
I practiced judo for many years and also sambo for a period. however, if we consider judo and competitive sambo, sambo has a broader technical arsenal due to a regulatory issue. in judo many techniques that belong to its arsenal are banned by the new rules. sambo competitions today look a lot like judo competitions before the regulation changes.
Many good sambo players have a background in alot of disciplines, being a black belt in judo is minimum for most, alot of them have judo, wrestling, boxing, etc... Much richer in my opinion
@@xjoshsaucex what you are talking about is Combat Sambo which also involves the use of punches, kicks, elbow strikes etc. Sambo as a fighting style essentially involves the same techniques that were allowed in old-style Judo competitions, now the regulatory changes have prohibited many techniques, in particular leg holds.
it is literally old preolimpic judo , sambo called "free style wrestling judo" in the begining and then after ww2 they waned to cut Japan mentions , also we got new free style wrestling and sambo splits on freestyle wrestling and sambo - many sambo champions were also freestyle wrestling champions back then - we called freestyle wrestling as sambo wthout Gi . and later in 50s 60s sambo practitioners began to compete in international judo tournaments - you can call - old judo developed in russia vs new olimpic judo time.
@@zenly_csgo Yes, I learned judo in the mid eighties from men who learned in the fifties very different to modern Olympic, we were 50/50 between standing and ground training.
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The first throw: a common type of uchimata sukashi. I learnt that version from my father who learnt it in the 60s or 70s in Yugoslavia.
The second throw: kosoto gake. This variant of kosoto gake is used a lot by new judoka until they realise they are getting easily countered by uchimata.
Rolling oguruma: banned in judo as it is a variant of kani basami.
The Chad commentor vs the virgin youtube content creator.
@@UrbanDefenseSystemsLiterally, the guy who taught the technique said it is an uchimata. Chadi himself said that these techniques can be found in the gokyo, but are unique.
Oh, Vlad Koulikov, that guy is awesome!
He actually whooped my ass at a seminar as a kid. Really nice dude
yeah , cool friendly guy
I may have missed which throws in the video are not found in Judo, Chadi. Although you may mean the ones not found or allowed in sport Judo, not combat Judo.
True, but nevertheless Absolute Judo exists has well Static and even mere relative Judo within a Taxonomical Framework.
Thanks Chadi! I was telling John Danaher last weekend about your site. He wanted you channel information. Do you think we will ever get away with the titles? Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, American Jiu-Jitsu, New Wave Jiu-Jitsu, etc? And just call it grappling? John says NO, it's all about money. Keenan CORNHOLIO has a great video addressing the topic - ruclips.net/video/Zvnj_Y_eWwc/видео.html
This isn't a hardcore match but a randori between Inoue and Yoshida where another example of something similar to this comes up
ruclips.net/video/Pb1bXF21NRY/видео.html
Спасибо за ролик о нашей борьбе.
Чади, правильно оговорить obshag, от слова ,,обшагнуть". Синоним -обойти.
а Чади читает по- русски?
@@абдрашатабдрашатович , пару раз отвечал, но на английском.
@@абдрашатабдрашатович , вроде,да. Там же переводчик есть.
7:33, I never thought I'd see a Northern Lights Suplex in real martial arts!
you forgot most popular sambo trow called obviv which is prohibited in judo . Obviv is very popular in sambo and freestyle wrestling it is combination of suplex and kawazu gake
I think the first 2 throws are variations of "Grapevine Takedown" from Catch Wrestling.
I've seen Old School Catch wrestlers do it from multiple setups.
And Catch was quite popular in Russia... maybe that's where Sambo picked it up.
I used to train Judo with a couple of very high level Russian Sambo players (they were both excellent black belt Judo players also).
I asked them what they preferred Judo or Sambo, and both said pretty simultaneously they liked them both the same.
They said one week we do Judo competition, next week we do Sambo competition.
Their juji gatame was next level, and I have trained under and with Olympic Judo players several BJJ black belts, but I would rank their transitions into juji as good as anyones.
I had one of them in my guard, and he stacked me so hard to pass guard I couldn't believe how he got so much pressure on my upper body, and he was 7kg lighter than me.
Both great guys.
( BTW Gadavlia is a great throw, like a really committed tomi nage).
Sambo invetions in juji gatame techniques was massive. It is basic lock in sambo because chokes are not allowed
Enjoyed your comment. I would note one thing tho. Gadavlia and tomoe nage are not comparable. One is an arch (virtually suplex) another is a back roll. Any fool can do tomoe nage. Only a few - Gadavlia. Waaaay more complex throw. Also, Gadavlia is shaped like a sumi gaeshi not tomoe nage :)
We do some of these in "bjj" (the modern synthesis of grappling that is being practiced in much of the world under the name "bjj") and one leg entanglement from sambo that I've never seen in judo.
Yes, alot of people get so caught up in the name, the term, not really seeing the "intention" being the most important part
one leg entanglement? you mean Kawazu Gake?
Lmfao people being so pretentional even in grappling, no way
you didnt do much judo,did you
Igor Vovchanchyn did that counter to an uchi mata once in a MMA fight.
Awesome.👍
In my opinion: the "front Uchi-Mata-Sukashi" can be seen as a variation of Kawazu-Gake (changing the direction of the throw) or a variation of Uchi-Mata itself (changing the way to approach the leg), which I think is more adequate; the cross-grip Te Waza is definitely a variation of Sumi-Otoshi; next is a variation of Kata-Guruma; and the last one ("O-Guruma-Makikomi) should not be scored as a throw but rather as a form of Juji-Gatame from a standing stance, once in the motion there is clearly a stoppage when Tori falls down, and then he rolls into the armbar. It's hard to find a new technique in Judo, once it is defined by its biomechanics.
Couldn't be a juji gatame, seeing as the arm is completely outside the legs.
I thought it was a standing entry to a premium sweep, but the entanglement is backwards!
Very unique
It looks like a combo of "kawazu gake" and "obi tori gaeshi" ... sort of.
Thank you Chadi for producing another brilliant video lecture on Sambo techniques. It is rich in throws etc. and I enjoyed it thoroughly. Once again thank you and God bless you and family!
ruclips.net/video/9sHpo6_XVbk/видео.htmlsi=A6uGNCB_MoQKGzPX
Who is stronger Tasoev or Basaev?
I would say: Tasoev.
From physiognomy:
In my eyes Basaev is more the wrestling type while Tasoev (however he is not tall enough for super heavy weight wrestling) is more the typical judo and Sambo type.
Basaev's arms fill out the kimono. In wrestling you need these arms to press in judo you must develop the force by pulling explosively. Of course turning movements are different.
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thank you for this video brother
Like always, faantastic! Vidéo extraordinaire! Bravo Chadi et merci
Thanks for the information, Chadi. 🙇🏾♂️
I think this an out of topic discussion because judo is, by nature, a voluntary substract of jiu jitsu technics... so if you want to compare which systeme is richer, then you should compare jiu jitsu to sambo...
You should make a video like this on the technique from 0:55 in bulgarian it is called Руска кука(Rusian Hook). It is something between ouchi gari and belly to belly suplex.
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Any skilled judoka knows that this can happen if you loose control over your opponent, but it is true, I am not aware of any name for it. The throw at the end is illegal in modern judo. Nice commentary.
Thanks you CHadi. Always awesome.
3:17 I dunno, I feel like som judges wouldn't see this as a counter but just you being thrown.. Although in the spirit of judo and the ippon, Tori is clearly taking the brunt of the impact from the ground.. This really goes back to the video you've made before where the concept of the ippon has been undermined so much that ippons are scored when people roll around and there's not even a hard impact.. a shame
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Было очень интересно, спасибо!
Sambo is hardcore. Russians are tough.
Awesome video ❤
just hit that counter uchimata yesterday during randori. not that beautiful but I got an Ippon from there. Nice stuff. Keep em coming this kind of counter.
Congratulations
A lot of jiu jitsu techniques are not found in judo. Judo has eliminated many of these take down and ground fighting techniques because of its athleticism. 8:05 there are old videos of judoka using the same technique as this and finishing it off with an armbar
Flying juji requires the near arm between the legs. What the Judoka did here is a variant of kani basami because Uke's legs are between Tori's, no arm.
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Amazing awesome crazy
Doing real work by studying History and Ethics of MAP even consistency of Mst. Mushari quotes is where the actual progress is going to derived to.
Honest-to-God
Chadi sitting down eliminates the throw and take down, you can expect barambollos, inversion wrestle ups sweeps and leg lock entrys.....it is a tactics of many in BJJ. The practical application would be in the individual had a leg disabled or was not able to stand or could not risk a slam or a take down. There would still be a chance to execute a technique above, this would be a adaptation to Newaza and BJJ in self defense.
Hi Chadi, isn’t the arsenal of techniques in sambo richer than in judo?
I practiced judo for many years and also sambo for a period. however, if we consider judo and competitive sambo, sambo has a broader technical arsenal due to a regulatory issue. in judo many techniques that belong to its arsenal are banned by the new rules. sambo competitions today look a lot like judo competitions before the regulation changes.
Many good sambo players have a background in alot of disciplines, being a black belt in judo is minimum for most, alot of them have judo, wrestling, boxing, etc...
Much richer in my opinion
@@xjoshsaucex what you are talking about is Combat Sambo which also involves the use of punches, kicks, elbow strikes etc. Sambo as a fighting style essentially involves the same techniques that were allowed in old-style Judo competitions, now the regulatory changes have prohibited many techniques, in particular leg holds.
@@lorenzobianchini4095 yes much richer! holds everything judo has, and then some.
So which is stronger: sambo or judo?
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Interesting. That’s how Shinohara, one of the best sukiashi players, did it as well.
I have definitely been taught that version of uchi mata sukashi in judo, but like anything who knows where this version actually came from.
It is literally judo and Russian wrestling the historical sources are well known.
it is literally old preolimpic judo , sambo called "free style wrestling judo" in the begining and then after ww2 they waned to cut Japan mentions , also we got new free style wrestling and sambo splits on freestyle wrestling and sambo - many sambo champions were also freestyle wrestling champions back then - we called freestyle wrestling as sambo wthout Gi . and later in 50s 60s sambo practitioners began to compete in international judo tournaments - you can call - old judo developed in russia vs new olimpic judo time.
@@zenly_csgo Yes, I learned judo in the mid eighties from men who learned in the fifties very different to modern Olympic, we were 50/50 between standing and ground training.
Awesome!
Maravilhoso, treino jiu-jitsu no Brasil e sinto falta de técnicas de arremesso mais eficientes, o sambo traz esse complemento que o jiu-jitsu precisa.
Great video, what's the sambo name for the techique at 7:11 ?
that's awesome. I'm kind of an Uchimata person so that might work for me as an attack as well
done well uchi bloody hurts😂
what an elegant solution 2:18
Estimado Chadi,
Reciba mis saludos desde Puente Alto, Santiago de Chile.
Disfruto muchísimo sus análisis técnicos, son un verdadero aporte educativo.
Soy Instructor de Eskrima y no puedo dejar de decir que sus contenidos son de gran valor.
Saludos!
Thank you so much
Great video! Thank you!
leg entrapment
Excelent
This is awesome ❤
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