Sing With Compression or Vocal Fry 4K - Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- In this video, we learn about Vocal Compression and whether Vocal Fry is a viable, safe substitute or addition to distorted singing.
Sing With Compression or Vocal Fry 4K - Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy
This is a very misunderstood concept.
Often, people think that in order to get glottal compression, distorted compression or vocal fry, they need to squeeze off the cords themselves to a point where the cords literally “rattle”.
And while this may be a fair concept in understanding how to “distress” the cords, it falls far short of explaining how to do this safely using actual vowel sounds and how to put it into songs.
In this video, I give a short tutorial on the difference and what is required to sing with distortion, growl, overdrive and many of the other names that the sound has been given.
Singing with compression is like an extreme sport. We must be very very careful with our voices or we could develop a node or a polyp that could cost us our voices.
For those interested, come join me and we can reason together.
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I use to try to sing with compression and I would always lose my voice for a week and usually get an infection. DUMB! But WOW! Your videos have been life changing. Thank you so much!
A lot of these rock singers back in the day have lost their voices like you said Ken they didn't use their voice properly or strained themselves to Much by screaming or damaging their vocals see Ken your voice had held up because you've used it the correct way and know how to sing properly without damaging your voice this is why your the man and the master
I've always enjoyed your content. Right now I am trying to improve my voice enough to sing back-ups in my Foreigner tribute band and have come back to your material to start getting ready for the back-up support.
Tyler, I would love to sing lead in a Foreigner Tribute. Been advertising and looking for musicians for so long. What is the name of your band?
You always do such a great job at explaining things to us. Much appreciated
Do you have any exercises for returning and soothing a blown out chest voice in the higher range? I'm talking specifically the type of tiredness that comes from singing in this high compressed, chesty mix setting with the head voice largely unaffected. It's something that nobody seems to talk about a lot, usually people talk about the blown out head voice or overall voice but there's less information on how to exercise a tired voice on this purely chesty compressed style of singing in the upper 4th octave.
I have a course called Voice Repair that consists of exercises to rehabilitate damaged voices. The exercises are not specifically targeting chest voice, but the whole voice, all registers. Any exercises you do for this purpose need to be done at a very low volume, because blown voices are most often caused by oversinging. In my main vocal course, I teach a method to reduce overall volume while singing, called Glottal Compression. KenTamplinVocalAcademy.com/
ken's calling the "posers" out!!😆
run like your hair is on fire😂
I have lessons with a coach who can demonstrate coal fry well.
I've been waiting of you to show it too. I have a course from you that I bought years ago. Of course, I prefer to work with a real coach. You can do so much damage alone. I notice that when I do specific exercises wrong on my own. I'm just learning the part of Chinchilla's "Fingers" What a voice. But I think I sing too much open throat. It sounds a bit "ng"-like, only more open. Like a Duck, but not quite as bad :-) when the part comes with the high notes. The high notes are not the problem, it's more the vowel placement. She doesn't even have her mouth open that wide. It's tough. I have absolute respect for you. Above all, how many years were you on stage?. I will go to your course again from time to time.
I have an excellent coach. She is great and demonstrates everything from Chinchilla to Kelly Clarkson very well. I'm always amazed.
I even had a coach where my voice got hoarse at some point. I can write stories about it. I think I misunderstand open throat all the time. It doesn't hurt to keep going back to videos demonstrating proper breathing technique.
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Hey Ken, please make a video on psychology of singing.😊
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Yessss, exactly what I was thinking too. It would be fascinating ❤
Compression kind of came to me naturally out of necessity, since I have asthma and easily start coughing when I use a lot of air, didn't really think about it untill I saw this clip the first time. 😅
I treat compression like insurance, I don't leave home without it.
I could tell that Gabby was far too tight in her vocal tract, I recognized the sound I used to produce. I love the bits after with The Trooper and Welcome to the Jungle, two favourites I like to sing, as well. Bruce Dickenson is an all time favourite singer, one of many, but I started by trying to sing along to Iron Maiden. It took a long time before I attempted vocal distortion, but Bruce was a great place to start, as he will throw in grit in a line and take it out again.
Now, I can sing in a similar way to many different singers and styles. Including extreme metal vocals, which do need to be taught and learned correctly. Otherwise, you WILL hurt your vocal tract, as I have heard from interviews with extreme vocalists like Will Ramos.
Painkiller is an excellent example of vocal fry for me
In Sign of the times by Harry styles, does he use compression when he sings 'we got to get away' ,in the word 'away' specifically?
I’m a huge fan of Maria Brink who uses a lot of this technique. Thank you for the info Ken!!
You always do such a great job at explaining things to us. Much appreciated
Really interesting information. Thanks, Ken.
Hey Ken! How's your day going? Thanks for the vid. Informative as always!🎤🎙😎
I'd love to see some analysis of some specific things singers are known for with their voices, and whether this is something obtainable or will it just wreck you. Ex. - David Lee Roth's or Ian Gillan's kind of banshee scream, Brian Johnson's or Dan McCafferty's constant distortion, etc. Thanks!
Can anyone learn to sing with compression?
I’ve become SKEPTICAL OF Lip-Trills aka Bubbling. If you’re Vocalizing with That much air flowing -
How WASTEFUL is your breath control?
Doesn’t your Compression become
background -
to the
Special effect of making lips 👄 flap
What do you mean by compressing air? Is that the same as sucking in your stomach while you sing using the upper chest?
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I'll be honest I loved Gabriela's tone when she was using that destructive technique (then again, it's Gabriela she's got a golden tone seriously what a talent). So I'm thinking, wouldn't it make sense to use those techniques (pinching, consonants, etc) in a studio setting where you can take breaks in a bar or two (maybe say for narrative purposes)?
Not talking about a live setting, you could use healthy sustainable technique there, just thinking about a studio recording.
And if so, could these unhealthy techniques be considered mostly situational and perhaps "extended" or "exotic" in that you could probably use them under idealized conditions to achieve a specific effect with the prior knowledge of the risks and limitations of said techniques?
Basically just being there as an "edge case" and really used perhaps in one line or two in a song every now and then if you really aren't convinced by normal healthy approaches?
Maybe I'm thinking too much about it, but darn it Gabriela just sounded way too good (which again, she always does)
No. It's ALWAYS better as a singer to use correct technique, no matter whether singing live or in the studio, or for how long. Any singer using poor technique is not doing their voice any favours and is also embedding bad habits. Far better to learn to sing correctly so it becomes automatic to use correct technique at all times.
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Well that's just strictly amazing and awesome mr. Ken. I think I'm going to need your course
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Have you heard the new release by Don Dokken? His voice seems stronger now. I'd love your thoughts Ken. Hugs!❤
ive been doing music for just under 2 years now on and off due to confidence issues, I really want to get into singing rock, this was really helpful, its also made me realise that ive been doing some of these things unconsciously already which i think is a good thing? Ive tried doing that Fry thing before to little to no avail usually it just feels wrong to me. Unfortunately im not good with terminology so i always struggled to know where to start or what people mean when they say 'all you gotta do is this (followed by instructions of words i dont understand)' means nothing to me. finally found someone who actually makes sense to me. thats not to bash other musicians/vocal coaches but i think you might be the best ive found so far.
awesome. i would like to see the singers comparisons then and now videos like you used to do.
When i tried some vocal distortion I got hoarse quiet quickly even though through Your videos I understood the concept of holding the air back. The lightning struck me when somebody told me, the "crispy" light scratchy sensation or feeling should be aABOVE the vocal chords or voice box, not on them. Since then i am rarely hoarse after jamming sessions, and I distorting my voice a lot, like 2-3 hours, but I clean the voice up always.Thanks for all the videos Ken! God bless you
Very nice Ken! This is so important for folks to learn. BTW, I'd like to know more about what you mean about
not going from smooth to distorted sounds? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you and it's ok to do it a certain way.
B/c I occasionally bring in distortion from a smooth sound to add more dynamics & feeling into the lyrics w/no problem.
Maybe it's cuz I'm doing it properly? I don't know. What is the way you suggest going from a smooth sound to distorted? Thx!
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@@kentamplin Would you care to listen to my Chris Cornell cover (where I take smooth into distorted) & share a thought?
I seem to do this smoothly & comfortably w/no problems but would appreciate & respect your opinion. And Thank You!
Oh good lord she is amazing.
Can you fix a 55 year old man that smokes too much?
I've been jamming with a band I was in during the 90's. I realize now that I was compressing way too much, but didn't have a good answer or reason why this was happening. I can still wail, just lose it after around 5 songs.
I call it "trying too hard".
Do you have any raw tracks of your students singing in that style. I mean like no reverb and acapella?
Yes. You'll have to look around on my channel.
@@kentamplin well I looked around and I have to say I'm happy with that.
Video 👍👌
Thanks Ken!
Thanks Master :)
my god, thank you a million times. I didn't know I just had to pull in my diaphragm to do a bit of fry, I sang a song I love with it while standing, full breaths, and it was so therapeutic. thanks
👍👍 thanks as always Ken
My vocal problems always seem isolated to the range/portion of my voice I'm using...if I over use compression, I just can't make a compressed sound loudly for a bit.
11:50 get that light woodsy sound like Yuri, by practicing levels of compression over time ok exervsies
Totally signing up for the course! Wow, you really have an extensive vocal knowledge. Really enjoy all of your videos and all the breakdowns. God bless you!!!
I was a musician on the road playing nightly in the 90s, we didn't have a clue how to sing. I'm in my 50s now and learned how to sing a few years ago, huge difference i hit notes I used to struggle with, I wish i took vocal lessons in my 20s. I don't think many musicians but enough emphasis on proper vocal technique. Thanks Ken love your teaching.
Hello Ken!
I only have a question, didnt know where to put it, so I did it here!
What do you think of the new singer in SKID ROW?
Is he a good singer...I mean, is he gonna get a voice in the later like a croc?
Or, do you think that he has a voice who can sing like in 30 years or so?
Regards Martin
please make a video where you talk about the sound pressure in decibels, since many of us have the false idea that having that sound in the voice is shouting with a lot of volume, please sing a high note with power in front of a decibel reader and thus know the real volume of the voice and not a false perception which leads us to sing screaming having the belief that it should be like this.... thank you very much... I love gabby.
Decibels aren't a measure of pressure, or volume or loudness. Only gain. It's a comparison of one thing to another
...thats a hell-uva-cutaway guitar you got,...its got an extra cut!!!!
Can you learn 'vibrato" or is that only a quality God naturally gave,like Layne Staley and chris cornell,and Rob Halford?... And Billy Idol...ect...ect...ect...?
Definitely...Compression saves your voice.
Sir Ken, thank you much for sharing a great lesson fo singing techniques 💯❤️✨✨
I am 20 years old, but my voice is like 16.Can i also learn those kind of techniques or should I wait for 4-5 years?
Yes, you certainly can begin training now. No need to wait.
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Nice one Ken, you are helping me 👍
Great lesson
You are the real deal Ken sir!
Great video Ken!
Love ittt
Well done Ken 👏 ✔️
Hey Ken can you please do some metal screams, i'd love to learn how from you, and see how you are doing them. Maybe a cattle decapitation or rivers of nihil cover would be amazing.
😊😊😊
I love u Ken, u a the best
Why can't we have access to online in-person sessions? There's nothing more enjoyable than having a teacher by your side.
I don't understand your question. I've been teaching via Zoom for years.
Really good stuff. Thank You!
when you exrise where do u inhale from noise or mouth please tell me sorry for my bad english
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@@kentamplin my queston is for vocal excrise not for singing how to inhale air form noise or mouth
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I can't believe Phil Anselmo can still sing at all! He must be doing something right because he's been screaming for like 35 years and still sounds good.