However fast you want the bike to lean, that's how fast you push....however far you want the bike to lean, you keep pushing. Once you get to your desired lean angle, STOP PUSHING then the caster effect of trail will take over and the wheel will correct and turn towards the direction you're going...this happens automatically once you stop pushing, not something you have to think about doing. Your job is just to push forward in the direction you want to go. Go spend 5 mins riding around your neighborhood and testing this out for yourself. There's no magic speed counter steering starts to work. It works at all times, at all speeds, on any bike, every time. If you push right (or pull left) the bike will destabilize and lean/fall to the right and go right. The more you're aware of what you're doing, the more efficient and effective your riding will be. Another easy way to understand this immediately is ride one handed through a couple easy turns. You're coming up to a left handed sweeper, how do you make the bike lean and go left while riding one handed? Obviously by pulling on the right handlebar, which is the same as pushing left. Pay close attention to what you're doing on your next ride and see which you prefer. For me, when I go right, I do more pulling left to free up my right hand from having to do too much...it's already working the throttle and brakes, no need to make it steer as well. For left hand turns, I push left for the same reasons. And guess what? For coming out a corner you repeat the process. If you push right to lean right...push left to stand the bike up and out of a corner. Go practice and see :) MotoJitsu.com for all my stuff.
Hey, Greg W. ... Funny backward hand motions in your selfie in this reversed video. You're explaining about pushing left and how the wheel momentarily goes right before coming back left. But the selfie video is reversed. I see this technical boo-boo a lot on RUclips. Since you are training people in a dangerous activity, you ought to make sure that the video matches the narrative. Just a suggestion. Love your work.
I wonder how many lives this channel has saved, seriously. Good work my man. I remember the first time I "felt" the counter weighted steering lock in at low speed. It's so stable it's crazy, because if you're even a little bit out of it you're fighting the bars and throttle and all that. But once you're in it you feel like you can just let the bike ride in circles forever. It's so natural once you feel that zone once or twice.
You do this on a bicycle too. To turn, you must either lean or fall. To lean, your center of gravity has to be to the inside of where your tires touch the ground. No matter how much you fling yourself around on a bicycle/motorcycle, you'll move yourself one way and the bike the other way such that your center of gravity doesn't change relative to your tires contact with the ground. To initate the lean, you have to steer the "wrong" way to move the bike away from the previous center of gravity. No matter the speed, no matter which 2 wheel vehicle. Great video to demonstrate it to those who don't believe they counter steer to initiate slow turns.
@@slimfit767 you have to. There is no other way to lean the motorcycle. Moving your body moves the bike the opposite direction. You put your body back upright and the bike will also be upright
The center of gravity does move when you move around on the bike. You+bike isn’t an isolated system, the bike contacts the road at the tyre contact patch, the road exerts lateral forces on the bike. Example: You move left, bike wants to move right as you’re pushing on it to move yourself left, but the bike can’t move right due to the lateral tyre grip. Net result is center of mass moves left.
Man, watching your videos on counter steering has totally changed the way I handle my motorcycle. I'm feeling much more confident in my ability to ride thanks to you.
You might as well have just caught a crystal clear picture of Bigfoot! By far the best video out there on how counter steering works. Outstanding Greg!!!
When it comes to counter-steering, the best example I can think of is to take a look at race bikes on the track. If you look carefully you can see their front wheels are actually pointed opposite of the direction of the turn they're in. Btw... Happy Birthday Greg. Thanks for all that you do!
I have a theory that target fixation is not a fixation but an automatic response from our body to the feeling of steering the wrong way. Normally you remember about counter steering and push to the side of the turn. But when you have an unexpected obstacle you forget about pushing and try to steer directly. Your body feels that something is wrong and straightens the arms to stop it, you try again and return to the dead center again, all done automatically of course, and your hands feel like they are tense and steering you directly at the object you want to avoid. When riding on the streets, I try to practice counter steering to avoid imaginary obstacles trying to make it automatic, though I am not that good yet and as soon as I forget about it, my body tries to steer directly when avoiding potholes etc which leads to locked arms.
@@MotoJitsu Exactly, and that is why in my theory the "target fixation" happens - subconsciously we try to steer away from an unexpected obstacle by "direct steering" which doesn't work and it results in our hands being locked: our subconsciousness expects to turn left by directly steering left, the bike starts to lean right instead, and the brain cancels the action, freezing our hands.
I think target fixation is a result of panic...which effects everything. The more people practice, the less likely anyone will be confused on what to do and will reduce panic creeping in.
I get that you can do this at 8mph but would you? I would love to see a non counter steer turn at 8mph vs a counter steer turn. Also on a sport bike with limited steering lock im not sure if this is beneficial to do. Its all too confusing on why this is being demonstrated . A uturn to the right or a turn into traffic to the right on a sport bike are very different and difficult.
I can vouch for this I used to ride tf out my bicycle one time I had it leaned like a Moto gp bike once I got my motorcycle the only thing I had to learn was shifting
@@Dooby0071 Right? I guess this is just another piece of proof positive that time spent outdoors as a kid was time well spent. Plus, Pong got boring real fast.
@@katrinc5859 My grandson managed a balance bike at the age of 2 yrs. At 2,5 yrs he «graduated» to a bike. with pedals. Now at 4 yrs he is doing mountainbiking. He knows no word for countersteering, but his spine knows!
Road bicycles my entire life prior to moving to motorcycles the past couple years. It's literally the same feeling, once you get past the fear of dropping your heavy, expensive motorcycle!
Hey, Greg W. ... Funny backward hand motions in your selfie in this reversed video. You're explaining about pushing left and how the wheel momentarily goes right before coming back left. But the selfie video is reversed. I see this technical boo-boo a lot on RUclips. Since you are training people in a dangerous activity, you ought to make sure that the video matches the narrative. Just a suggestion. Love your work.
@@MotoJitsu Ya, OK, you're right. So I guess I'll just shut up now and go practice. (Doing the Walk of Shame at this very moment.) Obviously, your video can be understood, even though you're using a mirror image of yourself. (Note backward lettering on your jacket, which is maybe some sort of RUclips system bug. Left is right and right is left.) Anyway, just trying to be helpful, as I should think you would want your video to match the audio for students. It's not really important -- at least not in this particular lesson -- but it could be in another one. Who knows. I'm a career editor and journalist, so maybe I'm hypersensitive about accuracy and details. It's my personal insanity at age 70. Lest I be misunderstood, however, you are the best instructor I've ever run across, by far. Thank your for the help you have already given me, and for the instruction yet to come. Your channel is No. 1 in my book.
No one needs to see me talking to my phone "the right way" to understand the slow motion video, not what I'm doing with my hands, just close your eyes and listen and go practice. Anything else is irrelevant. Or you can just watch any other of the 10 videos I have on counter steering.
And why is it so? For all the flatearthers and vegans and CO2-climate-believers: because you can not lean on air to push the bike into the desired direction! It's called physics.
However fast you want the bike to lean, that's how fast you push....however far you want the bike to lean, you keep pushing. Once you get to your desired lean angle, STOP PUSHING then the caster effect of trail will take over and the wheel will correct and turn towards the direction you're going...this happens automatically once you stop pushing, not something you have to think about doing. Your job is just to push forward in the direction you want to go. Go spend 5 mins riding around your neighborhood and testing this out for yourself. There's no magic speed counter steering starts to work. It works at all times, at all speeds, on any bike, every time. If you push right (or pull left) the bike will destabilize and lean/fall to the right and go right. The more you're aware of what you're doing, the more efficient and effective your riding will be. Another easy way to understand this immediately is ride one handed through a couple easy turns. You're coming up to a left handed sweeper, how do you make the bike lean and go left while riding one handed? Obviously by pulling on the right handlebar, which is the same as pushing left. Pay close attention to what you're doing on your next ride and see which you prefer. For me, when I go right, I do more pulling left to free up my right hand from having to do too much...it's already working the throttle and brakes, no need to make it steer as well. For left hand turns, I push left for the same reasons. And guess what? For coming out a corner you repeat the process. If you push right to lean right...push left to stand the bike up and out of a corner. Go practice and see :) MotoJitsu.com for all my stuff.
Thanks, now I need practice to learn angular judgment. See that's why you shouldn't ever stop what you are doing. We are always learning.
My beginner's rider course instructor lied to me!
Hey, Greg W. ... Funny backward hand motions in your selfie in this reversed video. You're explaining about pushing left and how the wheel momentarily goes right before coming back left. But the selfie video is reversed. I see this technical boo-boo a lot on RUclips. Since you are training people in a dangerous activity, you ought to make sure that the video matches the narrative. Just a suggestion. Love your work.
i saw a comment said "direct steering is the flat earther of motorcycling" couldn't be more true, no amount of demonstration can convince them
very true
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Thank you for all your great instruction!
You are so welcome!
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@@MotoJitsu You should know that the Paypal button in the link you give doesnt work. I had to donate from the RUclips video. Thanks.
thanks!
Just updated the link to my website
I wonder how many lives this channel has saved, seriously. Good work my man. I remember the first time I "felt" the counter weighted steering lock in at low speed. It's so stable it's crazy, because if you're even a little bit out of it you're fighting the bars and throttle and all that. But once you're in it you feel like you can just let the bike ride in circles forever. It's so natural once you feel that zone once or twice.
Hopefully a few :)
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You do this on a bicycle too. To turn, you must either lean or fall. To lean, your center of gravity has to be to the inside of where your tires touch the ground. No matter how much you fling yourself around on a bicycle/motorcycle, you'll move yourself one way and the bike the other way such that your center of gravity doesn't change relative to your tires contact with the ground. To initate the lean, you have to steer the "wrong" way to move the bike away from the previous center of gravity. No matter the speed, no matter which 2 wheel vehicle.
Great video to demonstrate it to those who don't believe they counter steer to initiate slow turns.
yes!
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At speeds this slow,u don't need to counter steer. U can but u don't need to.
@@slimfit767 you have to. There is no other way to lean the motorcycle. Moving your body moves the bike the opposite direction. You put your body back upright and the bike will also be upright
The center of gravity does move when you move around on the bike. You+bike isn’t an isolated system, the bike contacts the road at the tyre contact patch, the road exerts lateral forces on the bike.
Example: You move left, bike wants to move right as you’re pushing on it to move yourself left, but the bike can’t move right due to the lateral tyre grip. Net result is center of mass moves left.
Wow, this REALLY shows how counter steering works! Fantabulous video!!!!!!
YES!!!!!
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Agreed...
Man, watching your videos on counter steering has totally changed the way I handle my motorcycle. I'm feeling much more confident in my ability to ride thanks to you.
Great to hear!
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Great demonstration. I've heard you say many times about counter steering at slow speeds. It's hard to conceptualize
easy to figure out with 1 min of practice
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You might as well have just caught a crystal clear picture of Bigfoot!
By far the best video out there on how counter steering works.
Outstanding Greg!!!
Wow, thanks!
When it comes to counter-steering, the best example I can think of is to take a look at race bikes on the track. If you look carefully you can see their front wheels are actually pointed opposite of the direction of the turn they're in.
Btw... Happy Birthday Greg. Thanks for all that you do!
Then it turns into the direction they’re going like this slow mo video shows
I have a theory that target fixation is not a fixation but an automatic response from our body to the feeling of steering the wrong way. Normally you remember about counter steering and push to the side of the turn. But when you have an unexpected obstacle you forget about pushing and try to steer directly. Your body feels that something is wrong and straightens the arms to stop it, you try again and return to the dead center again, all done automatically of course, and your hands feel like they are tense and steering you directly at the object you want to avoid.
When riding on the streets, I try to practice counter steering to avoid imaginary obstacles trying to make it automatic, though I am not that good yet and as soon as I forget about it, my body tries to steer directly when avoiding potholes etc which leads to locked arms.
there's no such thing as steering directly...it's a myth
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@@MotoJitsu Exactly, and that is why in my theory the "target fixation" happens - subconsciously we try to steer away from an unexpected obstacle by "direct steering" which doesn't work and it results in our hands being locked: our subconsciousness expects to turn left by directly steering left, the bike starts to lean right instead, and the brain cancels the action, freezing our hands.
I think target fixation is a result of panic...which effects everything. The more people practice, the less likely anyone will be confused on what to do and will reduce panic creeping in.
I really appreciate this video.
thanks
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When I learned at any speed it was like magic.
yes!
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I get that you can do this at 8mph but would you? I would love to see a non counter steer turn at 8mph vs a counter steer turn. Also on a sport bike with limited steering lock im not sure if this is beneficial to do. Its all too confusing on why this is being demonstrated .
A uturn to the right or a turn into traffic to the right on a sport bike are very different and difficult.
there's no such thing as non-counter steering.
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is counter steering is a must for every turn u gonna make?
Yup
People without a motorcycle can just use a bicycle for proof of concept.
I can vouch for this I used to ride tf out my bicycle one time I had it leaned like a Moto gp bike once I got my motorcycle the only thing I had to learn was shifting
I rode my bike every day when I was a kid. Counter steering was just something we did, no one had to explain it to us. Same with using hand brake.
@@katrinc5859 just something you do naturally.
@@Dooby0071 Right? I guess this is just another piece of proof positive that time spent outdoors as a kid was time well spent. Plus, Pong got boring real fast.
@@katrinc5859 My grandson managed a balance bike at the age of 2 yrs. At 2,5 yrs he «graduated» to a bike. with pedals. Now at 4 yrs he is doing mountainbiking. He knows no word for countersteering, but his spine knows!
Road bicycles my entire life prior to moving to motorcycles the past couple years. It's literally the same feeling, once you get past the fear of dropping your heavy, expensive motorcycle!
yes :)
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I'll have to experiment with that, thanks!
👍🏼
In Portland people counter steer with their cars (super wide turns)
no such thing on anything more than 2 wheels
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what is a model (and year) of the bike ?
Tracer, 2019 I think
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@@MotoJitsu yes, tracer 900
Question, what bike is that? And how did your hair grow so fast? But seriously, thank you.
Tracer
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Where’s the s1krr ??
this video was made years ago
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Hey, Greg W. ... Funny backward hand motions in your selfie in this reversed video. You're explaining about pushing left and how the wheel momentarily goes right before coming back left. But the selfie video is reversed. I see this technical boo-boo a lot on RUclips. Since you are training people in a dangerous activity, you ought to make sure that the video matches the narrative. Just a suggestion. Love your work.
Or just go practice and see for yourself
@@MotoJitsu Ya, OK, you're right. So I guess I'll just shut up now and go practice. (Doing the Walk of Shame at this very moment.) Obviously, your video can be understood, even though you're using a mirror image of yourself. (Note backward lettering on your jacket, which is maybe some sort of RUclips system bug. Left is right and right is left.) Anyway, just trying to be helpful, as I should think you would want your video to match the audio for students. It's not really important -- at least not in this particular lesson -- but it could be in another one. Who knows. I'm a career editor and journalist, so maybe I'm hypersensitive about accuracy and details. It's my personal insanity at age 70. Lest I be misunderstood, however, you are the best instructor I've ever run across, by far. Thank your for the help you have already given me, and for the instruction yet to come. Your channel is No. 1 in my book.
No one needs to see me talking to my phone "the right way" to understand the slow motion video, not what I'm doing with my hands, just close your eyes and listen and go practice. Anything else is irrelevant. Or you can just watch any other of the 10 videos I have on counter steering.
Bravo❤
now go practice!
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@@MotoJitsu I am
Great ,, now all I need is a motorbike
or a bicycle
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👍
As simple as that.
yes!
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@@MotoJitsu It is your best video about countersteering, until now.
I have about 10 and this was made years ago lol
@@MotoJitsu Saw them all.
And why is it so? For all the flatearthers and vegans and CO2-climate-believers: because you can not lean on air to push the bike into the desired direction! It's called physics.
yes!
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Counter steering works at any speed.....however at 8mph u don't need to counter steer to turn. And I grew up riding bikes btw.
@@slimfit767 Well, not on this planet, dude!