Chicken Genetics 8 - Genetics in practice - with real chickens!
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2019
- This video rounds off my series of videos about the genetics of colours and patterns, particularly in Wyandotte chickens. We started out with a basic introduction to genetics concepts and terminology, and we’ve worked our way through all the basic building blocks that we needed - the genes that make the blue colour, sex chromosomes, sex-linked genes and sex-linked crosses, and finally the genes that control the lacing pattern and the colours of the lacing and the ground colour of the Wyandotte’s feathers. So by the end of the last video, we had covered the theory of it all.
In this video I want to show you how I used all that information when breeding my own Wyandotte chickens, in particular my favourites, the white-laced buffs.
Here in New Zealand it is impossible for private individuals to import live chickens or fertile eggs, because of our very strict biosecurity laws that protect our native wildlife, so New Zealand chicken breeders are very restricted in what we have to work with. But Nine years ago (October 2010) I managed to get some fertile eggs of Wyandotte chickens carrying the dominant white gene. When they hatched, two were the white-laced buff colour I wanted. Unfortunately, both of them turned out to be boys. I called them Buffter and Buttercup.
I mated Buttercup with a silver-laced Wyandotte hen, and as predicted, I got colour-coded chicks from the sex-linked cross for the feather ground colour, plus the separate inheritance of the dominant white gene affecting the lacing colour.
I picked the best white-laced buff female and bred her with a buff-laced rooster. I got 9 with the white-laced buff colouring. Only one chick happened to not inherit the dominant white gene from either of his parents and so have black lacing. And three of them clearly had a double dose of the dominant white gene - very pale as chicks, and as adults they hardly even looked laced at all because they have almost no pheomelanin expressed. Since they had two copies of the dominant white gene as well as the genes for the lacing pattern they were excellent for breeding even though they didn’t look very pretty.
Unfortunately, one afternoon a vicious dog that was visiting our neighbor jumped the fence and slaughtered several of my chickens, completely wiping out all my years of work in breeding and improving the white laced Wyandottes. I hope that someone else in New Zealand has continued to breed Wyandottes with white lacing, who taught me so much about genetics. I hope you enjoy the whole series.
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This was heartbreaking to watch at the end, I’m so sorry for your enormous loss.
Thank you. It was upsetting for me, but I'm grateful I had the chance to enjoy them.
Would you try breeding this buff laced chickens again I’m. Using your concept to creat them into Brahma chickens 😊
I never did get the genes back again while I lived in the country. This year I did hatch a buff laced Wyandotte from bought-in eggs but she's not the best example and because we now live in town I'm not allowed to keep roosters, so my breeding days are over.
I loved this vid very informative, i thnk you for this, I've got 8 glw, 8slw and 10blw I'll be using some of mine finest to create the splash laced wyandotte. Your videos are the most informative ones I've come across on RUclips, the loss of your chickens and your hard work on accomplished breeding the splash laced was a shocker for me was not expecting such ending, I hope you don't get discouraged by such event and keep doing what you do soo well. Your the reason why I'm going to do my own cross breeding to accomplish the splash laced strand.
Thank you. I'm very pleased to have inspired you. I hope you have great success. However they turn out I'm sure you'll have many wonderful chickens to enjoy 🙂
Oy... just finished watching only to find your work was demolished so quickly... I am truly sorry for the heartbreaking news. I used to let my girls free forage but since I've got a new neighbor with very big strong dogs I no longer let them until I get a new fence. Mine is very weak right now and it would take nothing for them to crash through. Again, my heart breaks for you... you are such a sweet gal and have helped so many of us... truly sad news. Please don't give up videoing and spreading your vast knowledge. Your wisdom is truly a gift. Thank you..
Thank you. It was a blow and I have never had Wyandottes since then but i have lots of other lovely chickens and I love making videos about them. It's a real bonus when people enjoy the videos so thanks for saying so.
What a sad ending to a great series. Im so sorry for your loss and thank you for these informative videos
Thank you. It was a wonderful experience. I have since found some other chickens in New Zealand that carry the dominant white gene but their quality of lacing and body type are very poor and now we live in town where roosters are not permitted so I can't breed again to re-establish the line. But I have wonderful memories and pictures, and I learnt so much!
Have a great day 🙂
What a sad story. Thank you for sharing!
It was a loss but I was delighted to have had all those experiences
@@chickensinmygarden Good attitude...but they were so beautiful I was a little sad you didn't try again. But I do understand.
One of the coolest videos i have watched on youtube!
Thank you so much 🙂
Sorry that your years of work got taken out! But thank you for this great series! God's creation is amazing!
Thank you. It was a disappointing end but a wonderful journey ❤
incredible work and appreciate your technical knowledge about breeding ,,,you are incredible resource to Poultry breeding, i learnt a lot thanks you
You must be binge-watching everything I've done 😀
Oh they were simply beautiful! I am so sorry that it ended the way it did. I tried my hand at crossing sunflowers, to create a violet sunflower. I was on the verge of success, when my ex destroyed all my notes, and seeds. It was heartbreaking. I never picked it back up either. ALl I have is the memory of the pale purple sunflowers in my garden in 1999. But I suppose knowing I almost accomplished it, is the payoff. And that cant be destroyed! Thank you for all your videos! SUCH A BLESSING
Oh dear, that must have been awful, especially since it seems to have been deliberate. But what a wonderful idea - purple sunflowers! And now they live in my imagination too 🙂
I’ve finally watched all these in order and found the process to get to this last video quite fascinating! Thanks for taking the time to put all this together. 😀
Yeah I started out thinking it would be one long video but it sure would have been an epic 😄
Sad to hear the lost of not only your birds, but also the time in creating the bird you wanted.
Thank you. It was a blow, but I'm glad I had the experience and the opportunity to share.
My Heart was Shattered as well. What Beautiful Chickens and such Interesting information. I Love Your Wonderful Videos. Thank You so much for Sharing
Thank you for that. It was a wonderful experience that I will always be grateful for.
Hi.. sorry for the end tough time. Very informative video. Please keep up the spirit. Thanks for sharing them.
Thank you. It was heartbreaking at the time but I'm glad I had the opportunity to breed and enjoy them.
Oh, how crushing. I am so sorry for the loss of your beautiful flock. I hope you were able to find more stock to work with. These videos have been immensely helpful!
Thank you. It was upsetting but I'm still glad I had the chance to breed them and learn so much from these beautiful chickens. And I'm glad you have found the videos helpful 🙂
Very encouraging. It requires patience and determination
And time and good record keeping, but it is so very rewarding.
My sister just asked me how white laced wyandottes work, and I know just the video to send her!!!
Great! Thank you 🙂
This is awesome. I’m doing Genetics in my Biology GCSE’s now. Thank you for sharing.
Great! I'm sure you'll love genetics - it's so fascinating. I expect you'll be concentrating on mammalian genetics so beware of those differences in sex chromosomes 🙂
Chickens in my garden Yep. We are now! Did it today
amazing colors and series......sorry for your lost
Chickens come in so many beautiful colours and patterns, don't they!
Thank you for watching and for your comment. Have a great day 🙂
Oh no! I am so sorry that your genetic project was destroyed! What a long term project, only to be wiped out by a careless neighbor. Thank you so much for all your videos on the genetics of chickens - they are some of my favorites. I love how much research you put into your videos, and no matter how information dense they are, you always explain in such a way that it is easy to understand.
Thank you. I love hearing from people who enjoy my videos. And making this series about genetics meant that something good came from all that work &which was really fun not work), even though I still mourn the loss of those beautiful chickens.
I was reading an article written by a New Zealand poultry breeder. It was an article about inbreeding, line breeding and outcrossing. I can't remember his name, which is a shame. He discussed the view that many American and British breeders are afraid to outcross, they believe it will destroy their line. But he mentioned that in New Zealand, breeders create their own versions of chicken breeds all the time, because they can not import any new birds. He said that breeders with the skills, will cross different breeds, select, and in time, create the bird they want. So his point was that, if you know what you are doing, and you have something that needs improving in your line, don't be afraid to outcross to a quality bird that is strong where your birds are weak. I am fearless, so I started with three lines of the Partridge Chantecler, and one of my F1 crosses was Reserve of Variety at the Canadian Nationals, I also won Best of Variety and Reserve of Breed with a line bred cockerel. But my point is that there is no boogie man when it comes to breeding exhibition chickens, just genetics.
Thank you for this series. I am doing the same thing starting with white silkies and other breeds, selectively breeding for silkie. Trying to get some beautiful feather patterns with silkie feathers.
That sounds wonderful! It's a long term job but rewarding at every stage
So sorry to hear about this tragedy! =( On the upside, I have found all your information from working with all the laced chickens highly invaluable, and exactly the information I was looking for ! Keep up the great videos!!!
Thank you. I feel the same way - it was a sad end but a wonderful experience and great learning.
Thanks and sorry for the dog attack. Your series was very informative and easy to understand.
Thank you. It was a wonderful learning curve for me. I'm glad I could share it with you.
Great work
Thank you. I appreciate your saying so.
Very interesting videos, thank you. I breed Indian Game in blue laced, dark, and jubilee. These colours are very similar to your gold laced, blue laced gold, and buff laced wyandottes. Last year I mated jubilee to jubilee and I ended up with a few offspring that have two copies of the dominant white gene. I'm told by another breeder that when these birds are bred back to dark indian game, the resulting jubilees that hatch have lovely clean hackles with less of the leaky black spots coming through. We'll have to see when I breed them next season.
Thanks for sharing that. I hope it works beautifully for you next year. Best wishes
Thanx for sharing.
It is a privilege to share my experience
Amazing! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
You're very welcome 🙂
Oh dear how unfortunate it had to end that way. Dont give up you can always try another again once you find a nice bird maybe they would be different and have their own unique characteristics
Good luck to you
First of all, these are fantastic videos!! I just found your channel. I have been raising chickens for almost 30 years and I just learned a lot about chicken genetics from you, thank you! You need to keep making genetics videos and breeding chickens, you are very good at both! But second, yes this is a sad story, but you better not let this stop you. You talk about all the chicks you raised and sold, there has got to be some chickens alive still from this line. Seems like now that you know what you are doing, you can create it again! Thanks to your help, I am going to try!
Thank you. I'm glad people find these genetics videos interesting. To me it's a really fascinating aspect of keeping chickens. Most people don't breed from their chickens and I'm not sure that any of the offspring of mine are still around. I did contact a couple of people but with no success. However I do know that a breeder in the south island has a line with this dominant white gene. So far I haven't persuaded her to spare me any eggs but maybe one day.
@@chickensinmygarden This video was amazing...!!!
@@triple-x3559 Thank you🙂
Very cool and unique serie of video. I was sadden to see you project destroyed. I wondered if you have try to get white laces wyandotte again or if you started another breeding project.
Thank you. It was interesting to do and I am pleased to be able to share it.
Alas my breeding days are over - I have retired and moved into town, and roosters are not allowed. But I'm having fun learning how to keep chickens on a smaller scale, including designing and building a hen house for the purpose- check out my latest videos
ruclips.net/video/3VeMh2b-Sos/видео.html
I used your teachings to create Bufflaced Brahma’s and it’s turning out great just wait for them to grow out
Ooh, that's so exciting! I'd love to hear all about it. Do you post on Facebook?
@@chickensinmygarden I will be I been tagging your genetics video to everyone to watch your example you should do more I’m working on speckled mottled colours to create Brahmas
@krishnabrian691 Sadly now I'm living in town I can no longer have roosters, so any other genetics videos I did would be theoretically based. But there is a lack of accessible chicken genetics information available - perhaps an opportunity for you?
I feel your pain: I"m surrounded by skunk, bear, crow, raptors of all kinds, cats, and the occasional cougar. But it's OFF LEASH dogs, and dogs being babysat that get out when their "alpha" owner is out of town that is my main problem. Those dogs (usually shepherd cross) seem to know when they can cause mayhem.
Wow, I'm so sorry that happened to you. Your birds was beautiful. I did learn some things from you.
Well I'm very glad you learned some things - that makes it worth while 🙂
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for an excellent series on chicken genetics! I am so sorry to hear about the dog attack! Absolutely devastating! I have been breeding chickens for a while now also and lost my entire adult flock last year to a suburban fox attack! It just sucks!
Oh no! Your entire flock! In fact we are very fortunate here in New Zealand to have so few predators.
I hope you have the heart to begin a new flock
@@chickensinmygarden I luckily had some pullets that were housed separately in my shed and some recently hatched chicks inside my house so I didn't loose everything but it did set my breeding back and I lost prime prized birds :(
Oh my goodness, what an heartbreaking ending to such a wonderful series.
Indeed. But it was an amazing experience and I'm glad I got the chance to share it
this is the best
Thank you 🙂
Thank you for this series! It really helped me understand the feather patterning better, and I really enjoyed hearing about your white lacing experiments. Sorry to hear about its tragic ending.
Do you know what you get if you have patterning and Columbia but not melanotic (Pg/-; ml/ml; Co/-)? Is it similar to penciling but with a more narrow black edge?
Have you considered extending the series? I would especially like to see some coverage of the E loci (the 500 different alleles at that loci confuse me to no end) and maybe some tips on deciphering as much genotype as possible from looking at actual birds or breeds.
One last question (sorry!): When talking about “gold” birds, is there a mutation for gold colouring? Or when people say gold, do they basically just mean wild-type colour or “not silver”? Gold = whatever phaemelanin ground colour is natural for that bird.
Thank you for your kind remarks.
As to your first question, I'm not certain enough about the answer. My best suggestion is to point you to the Kippenjungle chicken calculator
kippenjungle.nl/chickencalculator.html
I'm now living in town where roosters are not allowed so my days of breeding are over but I'm still interested in the genetics so I might do more genetics videos at some stage. I do find that snippets of genetics turn up in my other videos. For example the video I'm working on now is a basic one about combs and wattles and I just discovered that rose comb roosters who are heterozygous for single comb are more fertile than homozygous rose comb roosters. That raises all kinds of trains of thought in my mind.
And yes, gold is really just the absence of silver. Funny how somehow nobody actually explains some of those things 🙂
Are you breeding chickens? It is simultaneously so challenging and rewarding. Best wishes
Your a lovely person. Thank you for your knowledge. Really grateful
So l have a gold partridge brahma hen and a silver partridge brahma rooster. I wonder if l could get a gold partridge rooster
Thank you 🙂
Silver is sex-linked and dominant over gold - see this video
ruclips.net/video/jCrvh8j3TU0/видео.html
If your silver partridge rooster is homozygous for Silver (I.e.has two copies of the Silver gene, pure-bred silver) then all his offspring will be silver.
If your rooster has a (recessive) gene for gold, hiding under his Silver gene, then half his offspring would carry that gene. Assuming the mother is your gold partridge hen, half their offspring would be gold partridge - the males because they got the gold gene from their father plus their mother's gold gene, the females because they got the gold gene from their father and nothing from their mother. The other half of the offspring would inherit their father's Silver gene and so be silver partridge, regardless of sex.
@@chickensinmygarden thank you very much 🙂
Sorry to hear about your losses. I've been in your same shoes. But when you're up to it - try to revisit your project (or start a new one!) All isn't lost, you still have some birds & people out there that you've sold to. I'm starting my project from scratch, but will be using bantams now that I live in the city. #chadsbantams I would love to get your opinions as I go through this journey ... hopefully, now smarter in chicken genetics :-) thanks for sharing this playlist of knowledge!
Thank you. Sharing the knowledge that I gained along the way has definitely made it feel all worthwhile.
Thank you so much for these amazing videos! They’ve helped me so much in my search to understand chicken genetics. I absolutely love the look of those beautiful white laced buff Wyandottes! I raise Wyandottes myself!
How would one go about creating the white laced buff pattern from scratch? Here in the US, it’s not a variety that’s recognized and I haven’t found anyone that is working on them.
Could I go about creating them myself with a few black laced gold Wyandottes and something that carries the white gene? Would a white Wyandotte and black laced gold Wyandottes be a good first step?
I’ve loved yours so much and thank you so much for these videos ❤️
Hi Elizabeth. I'm glad you enjoyed them.
Yes you would start with a black laced gold Wyandotte and something that carries the gene for white lacing. Then it's just a matter of mating the white laced offspring back to gold laced Wyandottes until their other characteristics got back to pure Wyandotte. Luckily the white lacing gene is readily apparent even in the chicks.
So - what kind of something? I'm doubtful about the genetics of white Wyandottes - I think there might be a lot else going on but if you have access to one it's certainly worth a try.
The other possibilities are Polish (which would take a lot to get back to Wyandotte conformation) or Cornish which is probably the best bet unless you are lucky with a white Wyandotte.
Good luck 🤞
@@chickensinmygarden thank you so much! I really appreciate it and all of the videos you’ve made ❤️
I have one White Lacer Red Cornish hen only. I have several Dark Cornish hens and a nice conformation Dark Cornish Rooster. So that White Laced Red Cornish must have the dominant white gene, right? And if so she will produce some more WLR chicks with the Dark rooster, right? This WLR hen is small and the Dark rooster comes from a much better and hardier line. I am trying to create a bigger hardier WLR line.
I don't know much about the Cornish genetics but it certainly seems your hen must have the dominant white gene. The tricky bit might be to get the dominant white and lacing genes to segregate together. Otherwise you end up with a chicken that's white all over. But it's certainly worth trying. Good luck
What sort of chicken breeds do you wish u could have from overseas?
I wish we could get Marans or other breeds that lay really dark eggs 🙂
Have been watching all your tremendously interesting videos this morning. I was wondering if you have any idea what would cause a chicken's comb to start turning purple? This is not black due to frostbite... definitely purple. She's a 3 yr. old white leghorn who has been a special girl. She has always laid extremely well but of late has had the 'weird' eggs, then they became shell-less and yolk-less. Definitely struggling to get this mess out. Once she has, she's her perky self again. But this comb issue has me concerned. Any answers?
It sounds like anaemia - like when people get anemic or can't get enough oxygen for any reason their lips go a bit bluish. In a chicken's comb it can look purple. And the other symptoms also make it sound like something is wrong.
If she also has a nasal discharge and a cough she could have avian flu. I suggest you separate her from the flock in case it is something contagious.
Do you have video on you breeding mini coop it looks nice and easy to move
Hmm. I don't think I do. It's a very simple design - just a box with a sloped top and a door on one side. No floor, just two big lengths of thick timber that it can slide on.
Thank you
Excellent series, sorry for the tragedy from the dogs
I certainly learned a lot about chicken genetics
how to get a Wyandotte with white dominant gene? Can I cross silver laced to blue red Wyandotte to get it?
No.
Silver is a dominant gene at the gold ground-colour locus.
Blue is a diluter of the black lacing colour. A double dose of blue will make a bird that looks almost like a white-laced gold but the lacing looks a bit grey especially around the neck, whereas the dominant white gene gives lacing that looks white.
The only way to get a dominant white gene into a Wyandotte is to find a bird with the dominant white gene.
The chicken in the background of this image has pale blue lacing but you can see what I mean about it looking grey around the neck
www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/blue_laced_red_wyandotte.html
@@chickensinmygarden thanks!
I have a question 🙋🏽♂️ if you hatch out chick that supposed to have the lacing and they don’t if I were to breed that hen with another whydotte rooster would they have patterns in there gene 🧬 for them to have patterns chicks
Quick answer - No. If a hen carries the lacing gene, you can see the lacing.
But - if it's black lacing on black ground feather colour, or white lacing on white ground feather colour, you won't be able to see it even though the lacing colour is in plain sight!
And - if they carry only one copy of the lacing gene/s or they also carry other feather pattern genes, the lacing might be messy and not crisp.
Thank you so much
How do fibromelanistic traits breed like a Svart Hona or Ayam Cemani?
We have raised a 2 roos and 3 hens from eggs. And have considered crossing them with a Dark Brahma.
Hi there. I don't know. I don't think we have those breeds in New Zealand - we have very strict import restrictions. But you might be able to find out by asking the Facebook group called Poultry Colours and Genetics. They are a closed group but will let you join if you ask.
@@chickensinmygarden Thank you very much 💚. Our family loves videos!
Thank you. It's hard to decide whether I love videos or chickens the most 🙂
How do you set up your pens for breeding? How long do we need to keep a rooster and hen penned up together before you can incubate her eggs to be sure they are his chicks? And how long after he breeds her does she still only have his chicks? You have a lot of roosters and hens, how do you know which one is breeding who? Thanks!
These are questions I wish other breeders would think about - often I have bought fertile eggs supposedly purebred and then hatched obvious crosses - last year from three females out of a hatch of so-called 'Speckled Sussex' eggs, two birds were black and white with rose combs!
I seldom have more than one rooster at a time so that helps. When I have two at once I keep the pens about 100 metres apart but the rooster still hears the other hens and tries to get to them.
If you start with no roosters and then get one, you can get fertile eggs within a few days. But after the rooster leaves, his sperm can remain viable in the hen for at least three weeks, so changing from one rooster to another is a slow process.
@@chickensinmygarden OK wow, now I see why it was so devastating for you to lose the hen with the dominate white gene!, You only run one rooster at a time. I have three lines of chickens, and your genetics videos have inspired me to start isolating different roosters and hens for 3 week periods before I take the eggs for incubation. I am so excited to see where this goes. I have about 60 hens and lots of space and they often free-range. I can usually run 3-4 roosters without too much fighting. If I get fighting I then usually thin the roosters somehow. But I guess I will start keeping them in their own small pens and occasionally bringing them hens for 3 week periods, ugh lots of work and upset hens. I breed rabbits as well, they are much easier to isolate and breed and watch colors and confirmation. Each rabbit is in its own cage, and rabbit colors are obvious within 10 days of birth, easy! Thank you for your time, I will be asking more chicken genetic questions, I love your channel!!
There's a really good Facebook page called Poultry colours and genetics. Ask to join. They have some real experts as well as beginners like me.
So sad your project got wiped out!
Our back neighbours dog got through our fence and tried to get to my rabbits.
I was breeding Dwarf lops at the time and had 6 kits, my buck was a rare seal point that cost me $150..., I told my neighbour that had of his dog got to my rabbits it would of been a very expensive meal because I WOULD of sent him the bill.
About 2 weeks later both my side neighbours lost their ducks and chickens to a "fox" attack (even though we had never seen a fox in the area for the 21 years that I lived here). One of the attacks was in the middle of the day when my neighbour was out. We have no doubt that the dog killed them and less than a week later the back neighbour got rid of the dog before we could prove it and send them a bill. So sorry to hear your story. ;(
I think you were very wise to take such quick action. I'm glad the dog is no longer a threat to your rabbits 🙂
people and their dogs, did you get any compensation? I wish people would keep thier dogs on leashes when out and about. love the genetics of chickens
Thank you I'm glad you enjoy the videos. I didn't get any compensation - not that anything could replace those years of developing the blood line. But they did keep their dog at home after that.
that is good your experience made me raise the fence for my chickens and put fencing over the pen so they are fenced in left right top and bottom, I have more chickens on the way, genetics of chickens is a really cool topic
I'm so glad you raised the fences so your chickens will be more protected. And I find that genetics is just a fascinating topic.
Great video..
Question:
My offspring (rooster) fighting style is not same as his father.
How to make this?
Thanks.
Thank you. Unfortunately I don't know anything about the inheritance of fighting style. I would guess there are quite a few factors involved. My best suggestion is to breed from your best then select the best of his sons. Good luck
How sad was the end of the story of genetic i'm also an avid backyard chicken breeding and learned to some tip in mixing color of my chickens this is a long process of observation. My question can this feather color be engineered in all breeds of chickens?
I believe it could be, for all breeds, as long as you introduced the correct genes.
@@chickensinmygarden Can we set a strain to make it uniforrn (Homozygous) in look and color feather, long it takes to produce a pure strain of breed? from a heterozygous parent stocks?
Yes, if you select which of each generation to breed with.
@@chickensinmygarden which one you can suggest in relation for plumage dominance breeding to male side or the female side?
Female
Wonderful series!
I hope you have received some sense of justice or relief from the dog attack. I would have been seriously upset.
I was indeed seriously upset but yes I have enjoyed making this series - it feels like at least something good has come out of all those years of breeding (besides of course the joy of doing it and having those beautiful chickens). Thank you for your comment.
Are green eye in chickens a common trait?
Not common but they do occur. Green eyes are a recessive trait. They occur but are considered a fault in some breeds so careful breeders do their best to breed it out of their flock. I have heard that a young hen or cockerel can appear to have orange eyes but then they fade to green when fully mature. (Of course this makes it all the more difficult to avoid breeding from those birds.)
I'm sorry to hear that you lost some beloved animals. I hope someone in nz will see this video that breeds white laced Wyandotte s and gets in touch with you.
Thank you. I hope so too. They did give me the opportunity to learn about genetics and to share it with you.
That was a sad ending:( Does the performance of the bird in terms of laying ability changes as well as you cross breeds them?
Yes laying performance is inherited, at least in part (it's also affected by the current and previous health of the bird) but it's not a simple single-gene trait.
Oh wow, thanks for the quick reply. The reason I’m digging this is because parents stocks or grand parent stocks are so expensive in our area for this kind of chickens. I wanna make sure if I cross breed I’d still get the good qualities like good layers and good for meat. They have been saying “inbreeding” will likely, maybe mess with my egg production in the long term.
Inbreeding probably won't cause a decrease in production as long as
1. You consider the production as one of your selection criteria when deciding which
Sorry.
1. You consider selection criteria when deciding which birds to use for breeding. This means waiting a year or so to assess the performance of the hens, and judging the boys based on the productivity of their mothers and their daughters.
2. There is no underlying problem gene in the flock that would cause for example malformations of the reproductive tract or any other aspect of general health.
Breeding of related stock is very common in poultry breeding and it's called Line Breeding. It often affects productivity because people are using line breeding to work on colour or pattern or body shape and they neglect productivity and general robust health and longevity
@@chickensinmygarden There’s no way for me to test the genetics in depths but say if I mix Rhode Island Red and Barred Plymouth Rock according to their plumage, I should have good layers? Or brother and sister RIR should produce a decent layers?
hello I will like to know what are the genetics that makes fighting rooster can you help me please...if is possible...to make me understand this gen...
Hey I have a question 🙋🏽♂️
If I have a whydotte hen that had no pattern but it came from a mother who has the pattern. If I were to breed her with a pattern whydotte would she still produce pattern chicks?
It would be helpful to know more about the colours and how the rooster looked. For example a hen with a double dose of the dominant white gene that causes white lacing would look almost as though she had no lacing at all but would actually be excellent for breeding chicks with white lacing.
Didnt expect the sad ending. Did you get compensated at least?
No, I didn't. The dog was only being boarded at the neighbours for their daughter and they sent it back to her. But sadly too late to make any difference to me and my chickens.
But I learned so much and really enjoyed all the breeding and learning - so many adorable chicks! 😊
@@chickensinmygarden you are very nice and positive👍
So sorry your beautiful birds were killed. Thank you for sharing though.
It has been a pleasure to share what I learned when working with these chickens
My favorite is Grey and that red brown colour close to chocolate like it too
So rich red brown
I have seramas who I hatched this colour and it's beautiful seeing Thoes Grey tones
My Easter Eggers are a beautiful Grey too and I like that
My muscovy ducks same that gray
Not any lavender just the Grey and browns
My quail I have some gray birds too they are called andalusian
There is no real standard for colour its mixing me up
My muscovy have the black blue and splash thing going on
My seramas I would say the same thing and my Easter eggers
But quail I have the ssc silver collection and I have a spot of brown patterning or black leaking through
There's many types of white and white restrictor genes going on in the wild quail patterning
I'm enjoying the surprises of breeding but learning more about how birds do this in general I think would help but there's no standard yet for quail
And no bird standard there's way too many variables
So many colours! And so beautiful 🙂
@@chickensinmygarden it's fun learning the why behind it and seeing if you can do it is fascinating
Sad story 😭
A sad end to the journey but it was worthwhile
This is definitely not wyandottes but hopefully this makes you smile. It's that color but in a Brahma 🥰
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Look at the buff laced brahmas. It's the buff on top of white. They're beautiful 😁 as yours were as well!
Isn't that beautiful! Yes it will be the same colour pattern - single lacing on a gold ground feather colour plus dominant white to turn the black lacing to white. I do love the result 🙂 Thank you for sharing.
@@chickensinmygarden you're very welcome. I just watched your video this morning omw to work and I saw that and immediately thought of you 💕
I'm looking into genetics of different birds. I have a mixed flock so babies will be crosses. But my rooster is blue and he's barred rock x splash Brahma mix and I have black and blue hens and also a white hen. Trying to see if they'll still throw bbs babies. A Wyandotte is one of my hens and I was trying to find out if the lacing would be on the new chick or if it would be barred or neither. My birds are in a short video on my RUclips channel if you want to see them 😁
There are a lot of variables when you're dealing with crosses, it's not as simple as when all birds have the same genes except for one or two differences, but for that very reason the results are fascinating and lots of fun.
I'm so sorry
It was a sad ending but I learned a lot along the way and I'm happy to be able to share it with you.
Have a great day 🙂
Who will want to kill those chickens?!
It was a dog from the neighbours. Not a nice well-trained dog.
@@chickensinmygarden Well I'm very sorry to hear that :(