A very interesting history. Thank you, from a NZer. South Africans and New Zealanders love the game of Rugby. We play it hard from a young age. A lot of history, ups and downs. But the rivalry and respect endures, as does our unique respective nations and cultures.
This was so interesting. As a New Zealander, l say, bring it back. The Haka is a challenge and should be answered. Many of our Pasifika rivals perform their versions when our teams meet. The Springboks and Allblacks have a proud, proud history of rivalry and l'm sure it would be welcomed. Who cares if the original version is lost. Speak to the Zulu and get one of their chiefs to write a new one. The Haka has certainly been updated over the years.
We all say :"bring it back" But let's make people aware of this so that more people can learn about OUR heritage and celebrate it, LET'S BRING IT BACK, LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!
As an English man, and a true follower of the old rugby traditions, my heart is heavy for the story I have listened to. Where men match men, played out in a game given to the world, that is unriveld, that bonds men to each other , that forges steal bonded friend ships, born by combat that transcends, even the demise of such men . Truly this tradition must be honoured, for such a great nation. Honoured indeed, for the 637 black warriors, who stood fast on the Mendi, facing their fate, as men amongst men. I salute. ❤
Thank you Sam. I am glad you enjoyed it. I am putting out a new story each week, so please follow Inherit South Africa on either Facebook or Twitter. All the best, Michael
South Africa has a special place in history.It has a past that has been extremely complicated in it's progress and development .But it is also very unique in the story it has to tell to the rest of the World. I see a great future for South Africa, if the people can unite with one another and continue it's long and arduous journey together as one. South African's , black, white, and coloured are tough people, and have an advantage over other countries that have been more fortunate.Look at everything that has happened in the last 2 years since this video was made.Quite remarkable. Regards from a Kiwi.
Wish it was true, of people uniting. Politicians keep preaching disharmony of the past and current, and hate is passed from generation to generation whether true or false information. Its a backward slide here. Would like to see anything good, that brings people together to celebrate. From South Africa to you. ❤
I know very little about rugby, but this swelled my heard and smudged my mascara. So beautifully narrated! I've always wondered why we don't have our own Haka Haka, and now I know that we did! We so badly need songs to draw us together - I wish they would bring it back.
This clip has moved me to the core. I am a young Zulu South African musician myself and would like to find out about the lyrics of that war cry "Ngu'shaka lo" was there more to it?
I think the sleeping giant has indeed awakened and healed from the past. The new representative springbok team made SA stand alone 4 time world champions.
This video made my hair stand up. In early 1994, I did my last army camp, and during that month, I recall some army and policemen talking about the upcoming 95 Rugby World Cup around a braai. I mentioned our guys should do a Zulu dance, but this was laughed at. I hadn't considered there might be words as well, like Mr. Nel last used in 1937. Less than 2 months later, we held our first free and fair elections. If I recall correctly, there was a Zulu warrior in full regalia with assegai and shield performing during the opening ceremony, but I thought it a lost opportunity to embrace our diverse peoples.
When I first heard Jake White wanted to bring a war dance back I thought it was a cheesey gimmick... but now I understand what and mistake it was getting rid of it. I’m sure if the public knew the history there would be more support. They want teams to adopt the American ‘taking a knee’ ... this would be a much better symbol and example for the country.
Very impressive presentation my great uncle was Tommy Thompson 1912 Jakkie Morkle was his captain they were killed in East Africa ww1 buried in Dar Es Salam my family stll have his Jersey
Thanks very much William. Yes, I have come across your great uncle in my readings. A very successful Springbok team in a tragic era. Three of the Springboks (and many of their opposition internationals) were to lose their lives in the Great War. Appreciate the note. Regards, Michael
There for a war cry must be developed representing all African tribes As a Kiwi I would love to see an African war dance before a match. Bring it on brothers
Thank you for this history of importance. It's the first I have heard of this amazing story. It lit up my eyes and more admiration between our two countries New Zealand and South Africa Rugby. It would be great if South Africa reintroduce their Zulu dance. Who knows if they do, like our Haka, it may encourage other South African teams do likewise.
I feel it would show respect to the history of all African life as the human understanding of the true spirit of every living animal, insects, plants and trees, the great rivers and ocean, all life above and within the land and waters and the life struggles and love and happiness af all living things of the great lands that is AFRICA. Much love from Aotearoa New Zealand Maori
At DHS (Durban High School) the Blackmore's (Boarders house) rugby team had a Zulu war cry which we all knew and would chant at matches. This was 1953 to 1957 (my time at The School). Not sure if they still do? It has always puzzled me why the Boks never had a haka but of course your well researched and interesting video has explained it all. Singo, singo, singo bani na.......... Anyone remember it all?
Thanks for this insight. These Zulu/Xhosa/Other war-cries are relatively common amongst the traditional schools of South Africa. Take a look at this story about a DHS old boy, Ian Robertson, who more South Africans should know about: ruclips.net/video/JB_PgzkhcOs/видео.html
Man this gave me goosebumps. It would be very cool if they do bring it back but alas it's been 5 years since 2017 with us now back to back RWC Champions and not a word mentioned of it.
Thankyou. The "Mendi", featured in an exhibition that I prepared for Robinson Museum. The Museum had since closed. This fills a gab. It is wonderfull that it has surfaced now.
That sounds like an exaggeration.why would a Zulu war cry " mean so much to all south Africans" .new Zealand and south Africa are two different countries with very few ethnic similarities .in new Zealand the two main groups historically are the whites and maori.in south Africa there are many more ethnic groups.zulu speakers are 25 percent of the population of the country.why should Zulu be choose instead of other languages in other provinces. The springboks are great ,the way they are.every year more and more ppl start seeing them as the national team instead of the whites team.
Uitstekend Michael! Ngiyabonga kakhulu. Great job in recording a piece of almost forgotten history, and walking through how the events from 1948 distorted our social interaction. I have memories of being bundled in the back of our old Morris Oxford driving around Northern Natal (as was) with my father, as a World War II veteran, speaking at Torch Commando gatherings to highlight what was happening in South Africa with echoes of the devastating impact of racism that they had been fighting against in Europe. Supporters had to leave the public sector when a new law was passed to ban anyone in public service or the military from joining the Springbok Legion and Torch Commando. My late father related that subsequently the National Party did everything they could to purge the memory of the Springbok Legion and the Torch Commando.
Thanks very much Stef. I am glad you enjoyed this. Yes, I remember the Torch Commando, but thanks for sparking the memory. I will do a Friday Story on that next month. Well worth reminding South Africans of that, largely forgotten chapter and of the big characters involved. Men like Sailor Malan.
Hi Stef, Please see the story I produced off the back of your comment. Thanks again for the lead. Kind regards, Michael ruclips.net/video/5guLJNbMmac/видео.html
What an excellent job you did Michael. Wonderful that you have resurrected a piece of history to honour those fellow countrymen who left the comfort of their lives in South Africa to thwart the rise of fascism in a distant war. As I mentioned, my Dad was active giving speeches at Torch Commando rallies in Northern Natal (as was) as a returning WW II officer, and ending up being blocked from teaching in government schools in the Tvl. Thank you for placing on record that groundswell of opposition to the rising tide of government oppression after 1948 that, despite their best efforts, was so ruthlessly crushed. Also my thanks for the tribute to the leading role played by countless young South Africans who took to the skies in support of the war effort in Abyssinia, North Africa, Italy alongside flyers like Sailor Malan in Britain. Let me know if you are interested in a snippet of this history from a family perspective, and I will email it to you. My Oom Fanie got his wings at Central Flying School Roberts Heights (later renamed Voortrekkerhoogte) at the age of 20 in 1939. By the end of the war he was O.C. 8th Wing SAAF after serving in Abyssinia, North Africa, Italy [Colonel S.F. "Rosy" du Toit C.B.E. DFC and bar, US DFC (1919-2009)].
The opening verses, seemingly written in a variation of the Fanagalo language, were recorded at the time as: “Ghee Gammilio Gshee Ghee Gammilio Gshee Ghee Gammilio Gshee Wah!” According to some explanations of these lines, which it must be stated outright was wholly linguistically incorrect and even speculative or at worse mere fabrications, it refers to the following: “When they rush into battle, Zulu etiquette does not allow their warriors to mention the name of the men to be slain. However, as soon as the attacking party set eyes on the wretched victim the leader shouts out ‘Gammilio’ which means ‘that is his name’ at the same time pointing to the victim with his spear, and thus the difficulty is overcome. The ‘gshee’ is meant to describe the hiss or whizz of the spear as it flies through the air. There is no official spelling of this word, but, just like English words “gallop” and “click”, it is an onomatopoeic word; that is to say, one which is meant to graphically represent the sound it describes.” However in 1933, Dr. Gustav Preller, prominent historian and newspaper editor, according to the Sydney Morning Herald, gave the following version and translation of the meaning of the words of the cry: “Qubula! Qubula! Qubula Wa-tajie! Qubula! Wa-tajie! Wa-tajie! Ighama tako ocbanie na!” Roughly translated, the paper claimed, this meant: “Charge! Charge! Charge! death to you Charge! Who are you? Death to you!”
So sad how the Nats divided our country and so thrilled that they will only be part of history, never to return. Again so sad the ANC is attempting to divide the country again, they too should be assigned to history. It would be a proud moment when this war cry is again alive, presenting the formidable SPRINGBOK team and South Africa.
President of EFF J Malema is saying Springbok name must fall it's because of this such history is the reason I found this video trying to search about the history of Ruby thanks God I found you my guy you narrated this history better than anyone so far Hope and wish you can write a book about this history
Thank u for this piece of forgotten history.im curious as to why if the author of this has heard the version of the war cry or at least read the words why he wouldn't share that with us?
This is a great video. Well done. I couldn't help but think as 1949 rolled around, how Apartheid and Zionism began about the same time, as if the victorious West learnt nothing from the evils of Nazism and the destruction it brought. The US was contemplating a nuclear holocaust of the Soviet Union, while West Germany was rearmed and NATO created. The racism and imperialism that led to WW2 have not yet been laid to rest.
Great video, thank you! It made me think of this famous picture of the Transvaal Scottish from one of the world wars (probably two) where they are doing a barefoot war dance in their kilts. I always wondered whether that was inspired by our Zulu brothers.
I was a 9yr old immigrant in SA. I was an expatriate in the land of my birth and refugee/immigrant in France before we settled in South Africa. After 5 years, we were granted citizenship and it is my heart's national identity. I often watch the NZ / AB hakka and wish we could show our Zulu heritage wardance. I love watching our lads running onto the pitch to Johnny Clegg 's Impi. I've often wanted to bring this suggestion to the attention of the rugby powers that be ... but then I realise that Zulu is only one of our many South African tribes and, like our national anthem, our dance would have to be multi cultural and multi tribal. It's a nice pipe dream, but... Even if we could put together a war dance / war cry, representing SA, it would not be a historic war dance / war cry, so would not make much historical sense. Imagine though... If all the regional teams were to do a local tribal dance before each Currie Cup match? That would add a new dimension.
Both Zulu and Māori warriors fought back against the British crown the Māori actually won many battles and lost many to but the Māori were never conquered instead a treaty was written one in English one in Māori but the English version was different to the Māori one they tried to trick the Māori but we still have seats in parliament and we still have a voice though there are many racist in NZ towards Māori we will never let our culture die
Thank you Michael, this is a really interesting piece, as have the other Friday stories, I haven't seen them all but the ones I have have been really good. It would be great if the Springboks reintroduced the Zulu Haka especially vs New Zealand as it is a great rivalry (although unfortunately a bit too one sided recently!) Going back to the Friday stories are there plans for any new ones? I visited SA last year and it is a stunning country. Greetings from Jack in England
Fantastically interesting video - thank you! Its amazing how the old govt tried to whitewash the history books. As you say, at school we did not learn that about Spion Kop. Thanks for keeping the history alive
Not at all! In researching this story, I saw British Pathe footage of the first and third tests against the All Blacks in 1937 (couldn't find anything on the second test). Both of those showed (very) fleeting glimpses of the All Black Haka whilst the Springboks you could see were reciprocating with a war cry of their own. Unspectacular footage, but more a confirmation that it took place. I don't have access to share it unfortunately. I have more detail on the actual words they used from an interview with the team captain, Philip Nel. His son gave me a CD with the interview where he explains the words and their meaning. I have this disk with me. This was what sparked the video.
A very enlightening video, thanks! My comments though on the author's rose coloured view of what could have been: While the way the Afrikaners went about it, and while acknowledging that it was ham-handed and greedy and brought about much suffering of the native population, their desire for an independent country of their own, free from imperial power subjugation and forced integration into unitary state, remains an understandable one. Their primary mistake was to claim all of SA. This made their cause very hard to defend. A case of bad leadership applied to a worthy cause, with a resultant outcome that's obliterated that dream today. Still, we won the RWC, so there's that.
A very interesting history. Thank you, from a NZer.
South Africans and New Zealanders love the game of Rugby. We play it hard from a young age.
A lot of history, ups and downs. But the rivalry and respect endures, as does our unique respective nations and cultures.
Thank you for opening our eyes and making us more aware of our heritage as South Africans.We need to bring this south african haka back
Wow amazing history indeed, as a black South African i never knew such history of our own Indlamu as a Haka very informative .
Thanks Siphiwe.
This was so interesting. As a New Zealander, l say, bring it back. The Haka is a challenge and should be answered. Many of our Pasifika rivals perform their versions when our teams meet. The Springboks and Allblacks have a proud, proud history of rivalry and l'm sure it would be welcomed. Who cares if the original version is lost. Speak to the Zulu and get one of their chiefs to write a new one. The Haka has certainly been updated over the years.
We must campaign for the return of the Zulu war cry to come back. We need a history that unites us. Phillip Nel must be remembered
I agree with you, this is a rich part of our history, that needs to be revived.
@@onlinebaas Would love to see you challenge our Haka with it and Vice Versa. What a sight that would be
yes!
Hell no
Let us suggest it Rassie. I am all for it!
We all say :"bring it back"
But let's make people aware of this so that more people can learn about OUR heritage and celebrate it, LET'S BRING IT BACK, LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!
It would be great if they brought it back, Imagine the Zulu Haka and rhe Maori Haka facing off!
History will repeated, bring it back! And for the politicians out there, it was a “white” team performing the war cry.
As an English man, and a true follower of the old rugby traditions, my heart is heavy for the story I have listened to. Where men match men, played out in a game given to the world, that is unriveld, that bonds men to each other , that forges steal bonded friend ships, born by combat that transcends, even the demise of such men .
Truly this tradition must be honoured, for such a great nation. Honoured indeed, for the 637 black warriors, who stood fast on the Mendi, facing their fate, as men amongst men.
I salute. ❤
A wonderful piece of history, sensitively and movingly told. I am very grateful to have learned about it
Thank you Sam.
I am glad you enjoyed it.
I am putting out a new story each week, so please follow Inherit South Africa on either Facebook or Twitter.
All the best,
Michael
South Africa has a special place in history.It has a past that has been extremely complicated in it's progress and development .But it is also very unique in the story it has to tell to the rest of the World. I see a great future for South Africa, if the people can unite with one another and continue it's long and arduous journey together as one. South African's , black, white, and coloured are tough people, and have an advantage over other countries that have been more fortunate.Look at everything that has happened in the last 2 years since this video was made.Quite remarkable. Regards from a Kiwi.
Thanks Brett.
Wish it was true, of people uniting. Politicians keep preaching disharmony of the past and current, and hate is passed from generation to generation whether true or false information. Its a backward slide here. Would like to see anything good, that brings people together to celebrate. From South Africa to you. ❤
I know very little about rugby, but this swelled my heard and smudged my mascara. So beautifully narrated! I've always wondered why we don't have our own Haka Haka, and now I know that we did! We so badly need songs to draw us together - I wish they would bring it back.
Thanks Lorraine.
This clip has moved me to the core. I am a young Zulu South African musician myself and would like to find out about the lyrics of that war cry "Ngu'shaka lo" was there more to it?
Ludo BU and keep passing it on ubhuti wami
Did you find out any more information mate? The Zulu war cry would be amazing now with a fully represented team.
What a Superb Narrator you are!💪 from the very first beginning of the story I'm attached. Thank you.
I agree, this man's voice is captivating. A great bit of history
NZer here. Great video!
I had no idea that the Springboks used to do this Zulu challenge!
I'd love to see it again.
excellent story telling! I cant wait for the sleeping giant of springbok rugby to awaken and be fully healed from the wounds of the past!
Thank you very much.
I think the sleeping giant has indeed awakened and healed from the past. The new representative springbok team made SA stand alone 4 time world champions.
This video made my hair stand up.
In early 1994, I did my last army camp, and during that month, I recall some army and policemen talking about the upcoming 95 Rugby World Cup around a braai.
I mentioned our guys should do a Zulu dance, but this was laughed at.
I hadn't considered there might be words as well, like Mr. Nel last used in 1937.
Less than 2 months later, we held our first free and fair elections.
If I recall correctly, there was a Zulu warrior in full regalia with assegai and shield performing during the opening ceremony, but I thought it a lost opportunity to embrace our diverse peoples.
When I first heard Jake White wanted to bring a war dance back I thought it was a cheesey gimmick... but now I understand what and mistake it was getting rid of it. I’m sure if the public knew the history there would be more support. They want teams to adopt the American ‘taking a knee’ ... this would be a much better symbol and example for the country.
I too first thought it was too gimmickey but today I learnt a whole lot 👍
🥺💙This video has given me goosebumps. If the " i'Ndlamu " war cry has to be brought back, then so be it.
Wow man, great work you are doing on here. The world needs more history teachers like you. Respect
Thanks very much for the note! Glad you enjoyed it.
P.S. You too. Just listened to some of your work. Beautiful craft.
All the best.
Very impressive presentation my great uncle was Tommy Thompson 1912 Jakkie Morkle was his captain they were killed in East Africa ww1 buried in Dar Es Salam my family stll have his Jersey
Thanks very much William. Yes, I have come across your great uncle in my readings. A very successful Springbok team in a tragic era. Three of the Springboks (and many of their opposition internationals) were to lose their lives in the Great War. Appreciate the note.
Regards,
Michael
They should bring back the zulu warcry, thanks for the history lesson
And then the Welsh can sing Men of Harlech against it again! :D
@@thesmithersywhat a great story.
Nay !!!...I think the haka is a beautiful tradition that riles up the opposition just as much as the AB'S
No way that will happen. The Zulus aren't the only tribe in SA and the other tribes will definitely have a problem with it.
There for a war cry must be developed representing all African tribes As a Kiwi I would love to see an African war dance before a match. Bring it on brothers
I knew about this since I was a kid, thanks to my grandfather and my coach from high school.
Thank you for this history of importance. It's the first I have heard of this amazing story. It lit up my eyes and more admiration between our two countries New Zealand and South Africa Rugby. It would be great if South Africa reintroduce their Zulu dance. Who knows if they do, like our Haka, it may encourage other South African teams do likewise.
Hope your video can be the spur to integrate with history and our cultural richness.
Never to old to learn! Thanks so much for sharing and narrating such great history👌🇿🇦
WOW....thank you for making this. Beautiful!
Thanks Gideon.
Regards,
Michael
I feel it would show respect to the history of all African life as the human understanding of the true spirit of every living animal, insects, plants and trees, the great rivers and ocean, all life above and within the land and waters and the life struggles and love and happiness af all living things of the great lands that is AFRICA. Much love from Aotearoa New Zealand Maori
At DHS (Durban High School) the Blackmore's (Boarders house) rugby team had a Zulu war cry which we all knew and would chant at matches. This was 1953 to 1957 (my time at The School). Not sure if they still do? It has always puzzled me why the Boks never had a haka but of course your well researched and interesting video has explained it all. Singo, singo, singo bani na.......... Anyone remember it all?
Thanks for this insight.
These Zulu/Xhosa/Other war-cries are relatively common amongst the traditional schools of South Africa.
Take a look at this story about a DHS old boy, Ian Robertson, who more South Africans should know about: ruclips.net/video/JB_PgzkhcOs/видео.html
Very well done
Being away from Durbs, this video was nice to hear and informative. I miss home very much
Thank you very much
Man this gave me goosebumps. It would be very cool if they do bring it back but alas it's been 5 years since 2017 with us now back to back RWC Champions and not a word mentioned of it.
Thankyou. The "Mendi", featured in an exhibition that I prepared for Robinson Museum. The Museum had since closed. This fills a gab. It is wonderfull that it has surfaced now.
The Springboks need to bring the indlamu back. I dont live in South Africa, but there should be a petition to bring back the war dance.
that's beautiful. Thank you for posting.
Thank you.
Wow. This was such sad hearing. Is there a recording or a written version of our Zulu war-cry🇿🇦 I'd love to hear it.
Thank you for this. Man apartheid messed up so much!
It is a pleasure.
We should bring it back for sure. It’s there for the taking and would mean so much to all South Africans
That sounds like an exaggeration.why would a Zulu war cry " mean so much to all south Africans" .new Zealand and south Africa are two different countries with very few ethnic similarities .in new Zealand the two main groups historically are the whites and maori.in south Africa there are many more ethnic groups.zulu speakers are 25 percent of the population of the country.why should Zulu be choose instead of other languages in other provinces.
The springboks are great ,the way they are.every year more and more ppl start seeing them as the national team instead of the whites team.
Give us more rugby history please this was awesome much love from NZ
Excellent that is truly an excellent video
Thanks Rob.
Great job! Thanks for putting this together!
Bring back the warcry that our peoples may be united, once and for all!
An amazing story thanks.
Bring that war cry.
A wonderful story, superbly narrated. Thank you.
Thanks very much Ian.
Amazing. Thank you!!
Uitstekend Michael! Ngiyabonga kakhulu. Great job in recording a piece of almost forgotten history, and walking through how the events from 1948 distorted our social interaction. I have memories of being bundled in the back of our old Morris Oxford driving around Northern Natal (as was) with my father, as a World War II veteran, speaking at Torch Commando gatherings to highlight what was happening in South Africa with echoes of the devastating impact of racism that they had been fighting against in Europe. Supporters had to leave the public sector when a new law was passed to ban anyone in public service or the military from joining the Springbok Legion and Torch Commando. My late father related that subsequently the National Party did everything they could to purge the memory of the Springbok Legion and the Torch Commando.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torch_Commando
Thanks very much Stef. I am glad you enjoyed this.
Yes, I remember the Torch Commando, but thanks for sparking the memory. I will do a Friday Story on that next month. Well worth reminding South Africans of that, largely forgotten chapter and of the big characters involved. Men like Sailor Malan.
Hi Stef,
Please see the story I produced off the back of your comment.
Thanks again for the lead.
Kind regards,
Michael
ruclips.net/video/5guLJNbMmac/видео.html
What an excellent job you did Michael. Wonderful that you have resurrected a piece of history to honour those fellow countrymen who left the comfort of their lives in South Africa to thwart the rise of fascism in a distant war. As I mentioned, my Dad was active giving speeches at Torch Commando rallies in Northern Natal (as was) as a returning WW II officer, and ending up being blocked from teaching in government schools in the Tvl. Thank you for placing on record that groundswell of opposition to the rising tide of government oppression after 1948 that, despite their best efforts, was so ruthlessly crushed. Also my thanks for the tribute to the leading role played by countless young South Africans who took to the skies in support of the war effort in Abyssinia, North Africa, Italy alongside flyers like Sailor Malan in Britain. Let me know if you are interested in a snippet of this history from a family perspective, and I will email it to you. My Oom Fanie got his wings at Central Flying School Roberts Heights (later renamed Voortrekkerhoogte) at the age of 20 in 1939. By the end of the war he was O.C. 8th Wing SAAF after serving in Abyssinia, North Africa, Italy [Colonel S.F. "Rosy" du Toit C.B.E. DFC and bar, US DFC (1919-2009)].
I am from Sri Lanka. It is interesting to know that there had been Rugby lovers as far back as in 50s where they watched the Games in numbers
Would be great to see the words used in the SA Haka. Thanks so much for sharing, very informative and interesting.
Thanks Trevor.
The opening verses, seemingly written in a variation of the Fanagalo language, were recorded at the time as:
“Ghee Gammilio Gshee
Ghee Gammilio Gshee
Ghee Gammilio Gshee
Wah!”
According to some explanations of these lines, which it must be stated outright was wholly linguistically incorrect and even speculative or at worse mere fabrications, it refers to the following:
“When they rush into battle, Zulu etiquette does not allow their warriors to mention the name of the men to be slain. However, as soon as the attacking party set eyes on the wretched victim the leader shouts out ‘Gammilio’ which means ‘that is his name’ at the same time pointing to the victim with his spear, and thus the difficulty is overcome. The ‘gshee’ is meant to describe the hiss or whizz of the spear as it flies through the air. There is no official spelling of this word, but, just like English words “gallop” and “click”, it is an onomatopoeic word; that is to say, one which is meant to graphically represent the sound it describes.”
However in 1933, Dr. Gustav Preller, prominent historian and newspaper editor, according to the Sydney Morning Herald, gave the following version and translation of the meaning of the words of the cry:
“Qubula! Qubula! Qubula
Wa-tajie!
Qubula!
Wa-tajie!
Wa-tajie!
Ighama tako ocbanie na!”
Roughly translated, the paper claimed, this meant:
“Charge! Charge! Charge!
death to you
Charge!
Who are you?
Death to you!”
@@YuusukeOnoderait’d probably be gama yilo/igama yilo or gama yalo/igama yalo.
Bring back the war cry !!!!
Well its 2019 now and the war cry didnt come back
So sad how the Nats divided our country and so thrilled that they will only be part of history, never to return. Again so sad the ANC is attempting to divide the country again, they too should be assigned to history.
It would be a proud moment when this war cry is again alive, presenting the formidable SPRINGBOK team and South Africa.
Well narrated- thank you -
Wow, this is emotional.
President of EFF J Malema is saying Springbok name must fall it's because of this such history is the reason I found this video trying to search about the history of Ruby thanks God I found you my guy you narrated this history better than anyone so far
Hope and wish you can write a book about this history
We must bring it back!
Thank u for this piece of forgotten history.im curious as to why if the author of this has heard the version of the war cry or at least read the words why he wouldn't share that with us?
This is a great video. Well done.
I couldn't help but think as 1949 rolled around, how Apartheid and Zionism began about the same time, as if the victorious West learnt nothing from the evils of Nazism and the destruction it brought. The US was contemplating a nuclear holocaust of the Soviet Union, while West Germany was rearmed and NATO created.
The racism and imperialism that led to WW2 have not yet been laid to rest.
Great video, thank you! It made me think of this famous picture of the Transvaal Scottish from one of the world wars (probably two) where they are doing a barefoot war dance in their kilts. I always wondered whether that was inspired by our Zulu brothers.
bring it back please indlamu
Hopefully one day!
Thanks for the history lesson
Not sure why this channel doesn't have more views or subs.
Thanks!
Bring it back 😭
Bring back the Zulu war cry to Rugby !!
Super informative
Come on man. Share the battle cry with us all.
They should reintroduce it!
Well done ,I must say !
I was a 9yr old immigrant in SA.
I was an expatriate in the land of my birth and refugee/immigrant in France before we settled in South Africa.
After 5 years, we were granted citizenship and it is my heart's national identity.
I often watch the NZ / AB hakka and wish we could show our Zulu heritage wardance.
I love watching our lads running onto the pitch to Johnny Clegg 's Impi.
I've often wanted to bring this suggestion to the attention of the rugby powers that be ... but then I realise that Zulu is only one of our many South African tribes and, like our national anthem, our dance would have to be multi cultural and multi tribal.
It's a nice pipe dream, but...
Even if we could put together a war dance / war cry, representing SA, it would not be a historic war dance / war cry, so would not make much historical sense.
Imagine though...
If all the regional teams were to do a local tribal dance before each Currie Cup match?
That would add a new dimension.
I just subscribed. Thanks for the history. Please dig more history for us. What books can we buy for us to read meanwhile
You (the 'owner') say you have seen a recording of this haka :) where? I'm fascinated to watch it too!
Bring it back. Sifuna manje
Wow..This was really interesting.
So beautifully written. Onions.
The boks used to be a running team, think Naas was such a good kicker changed our running roots into a kicking game plan
Wow, time to bring it back!
Very interesting video
Inspiring and a hint to what could've been were it not for apartheid. How long will we have to suffer the legacy of that abomination?
Thank you for this forgotten piece of history. You memtion the interview with Filip Nel - but where are the lyrics?
Awesome video - maybe if we watched this earlier we wouldn't have lost 57-0 on 16 September
Both Zulu and Māori warriors fought back against the British crown the Māori actually won many battles and lost many to but the Māori were never conquered instead a treaty was written one in English one in Māori but the English version was different to the Māori one they tried to trick the Māori but we still have seats in parliament and we still have a voice though there are many racist in NZ towards Māori we will never let our culture die
What a wonderful history lesson about the 'Boks', such a pity though that our country seems to have lost its pride!
Our pride is still here. A little dormant right now, but it will be back!
Tell that to the 4-time RWC winners
The 2009 springbok team also won a Series vs the AB. Beating them twice on AB soil, and once on home soil.
Pity the song is not included in the video. Nice history lesson though
Thank you very much for this inset. Indlamu should be brought back
Thank you Michael, this is a really interesting piece, as have the other Friday stories, I haven't seen them all but the ones I have have been really good. It would be great if the Springboks reintroduced the Zulu Haka especially vs New Zealand as it is a great rivalry (although unfortunately a bit too one sided recently!) Going back to the Friday stories are there plans for any new ones? I visited SA last year and it is a stunning country. Greetings from Jack in England
Thanks Jack
Just in the process of releasing the second series.
Do we have the war cry on video? Maybe we can bring it back?
is there any possibility that you can share the Philip Nel interview?
Great video. Are you gonna share the lyrics with us? Or just for you? Bietjie kakkering sou ek se....
amazing vid, but you got the disk and didnt put it up?? Share!
Fantastically interesting video - thank you! Its amazing how the old govt tried to whitewash the history books. As you say, at school we did not learn that about Spion Kop. Thanks for keeping the history alive
Michael now that you have that disc what were the words of that war cry? Thank you for reviving an interest in our history.
Thank Patrick!
Kind regards,
Michael
@@InheritSouthAfrica you appear strangely reluctant to want to share the footage...why? :( Many of us here would love to see it.
Not at all! In researching this story, I saw British Pathe footage of the first and third tests against the All Blacks in 1937 (couldn't find anything on the second test). Both of those showed (very) fleeting glimpses of the All Black Haka whilst the Springboks you could see were reciprocating with a war cry of their own. Unspectacular footage, but more a confirmation that it took place. I don't have access to share it unfortunately. I have more detail on the actual words they used from an interview with the team captain, Philip Nel. His son gave me a CD with the interview where he explains the words and their meaning. I have this disk with me. This was what sparked the video.
@@InheritSouthAfrica Hi, Can you possibly link the footage of the war cry?
I thought it was "hier kom die bokke"
How amazing would that have been to give that cry by Siya and his warriors that took the 2023 WC
We hear you we see you, I feel you.
Hi. What happened to your Friday Story: Sailor Malan. I loved it but its been taken down.
Went in for some repairs. It is back.
Bring it back
Just another example of why politicians should stick to politics, and stay out of sport. Wonderfull history lost. Thank you sir, for reminding us.
Springboks are one of my favourite teams but unfortunately in Auckland 57-0 was the result. A return of the war cry will be immense.
That 57-0 loss was the catalyst for the Springboks to win back to back world cups, 4 in total, and becoming the best rugby team in history.
A very enlightening video, thanks!
My comments though on the author's rose coloured view of what could have been:
While the way the Afrikaners went about it, and while acknowledging that it was ham-handed and greedy and brought about much suffering of the native population, their desire for an independent country of their own, free from imperial power subjugation and forced integration into unitary state, remains an understandable one. Their primary mistake was to claim all of SA. This made their cause very hard to defend. A case of bad leadership applied to a worthy cause, with a resultant outcome that's obliterated that dream today. Still, we won the RWC, so there's that.
Yes, i saw it on a movie 'Sweet ñ short'. But that movie was a prediction of South Africa today. Go figger
Zulu Power behind the Springboks it would certainly unite them even more, yes definitely bring it they would be formidable.
I would love to see them bring it back as a New Zealander
What are the lyrics of this Springbok Zulu war cry before a game OF RUGBY ?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
wow that was interesting.