For more Halloween fun check out these videos: Armando Loni - ruclips.net/video/uYdtHn8HXSc/видео.html Big Vic's WorkShop - ruclips.net/video/YqXhzag2_3Y/видео.html Robert Foust Resto-Rob - ruclips.net/video/Z5dtg0_3IkQ/видео.html
Clear handled screwdrivers are made from cellulose acetate butyrate for their electrical insulator properties. The chalky white residue are plasticizers decomposing and the vomit smell is butyric acid off gassing. Options are : return for exchange if Craftsman or lifetime warranty brand , clean with chemicals, buff and coat with polyurethane to contain stink , cut off stinky handle and replace with new one or simply throw it away . There is no guarantee if cleaned and coated that it will not continue to decompose .
that lifetime warranty is subjective i had tools from a sears craftsman set and tried a warranty exchange at lowes they said it was sears craftsman and to try them sears closed tried craftsman online wanted a receipt from 1985... easier to shoplift a replacement
Thanks to your previous video I de-manged all my screwdrivers in ammonia overnight and then into an ultrasonic. Even if mange starts to come back your ammonia method is so easy I can do it as periodic maintenance.
@@frankg3072 It might have been Dawn or Simple Green. I run a lot of parts in the dirty water so I forget what is in it. I suspect plain water would work because the mange loses mechanical integrity after the ammonia.
I was hoping that you would cut off the mange plastic handles and use your mini lathe with cherry wood and make a new handle with a brass ferrule. Thanks for trying, still very interesting and worth a try.
I collect Xcelite tools, and what I always end up doing is washing them in the sink with regular bar soap after scraping off the majority of the white crust. I also keep them in a sunny window, which seems to keep the mange away. Using the tools also seems to keep it away. I just accept the slight (but hardly noticeable) smell as part of the enjoyment of my tools.
So far there is no known long term cure for mange. When those handles were cast they were made defectively. So what's going on is irreversible. Because not every handle gets mangy. Only some suffer from the affliction.
Thanks Magdad, fun video, but perhaps I shouldn't have watched it over breakfast, I know that smell only too well ! Hoping that your experiments pay off and the mange is kept at bay ! Happy Halloween to you too !
If the Avon aftershave works, it scares me what it would do to my face. Thanks for the laugh. Brought back memories of a great aunt who used to give Avon aftershave for every holiday 😂
If the clear coat you used doesn't work over time, maybe try getting some old fashioned clear cellulose laquer? It might bond better given the handles are a type of cellulose? Your sprayed one looked like new. A brilliant result. 👍
The sreering wheel in my 54 Studebaker did that, plus severe cracking. I repaired with epoxy and painted with a quality automotive primer and paint. After more than 10 years the interior of the car smells better but the cracking is starting to return.
MD, Very appropriate video for Halloween. I appreciate all your efforts, both to conquer the mange and present a fun story to your viewers. Thanks so much for sharing this fun episode.
As best as we can tell mange is due to a faulty chemical process when the handle was manufactured. Once a handle goes mangy that's it. You can only manage it then. There is no cure. It's actually a manufacturing defect. The permanent solution is to get rid of the handle. Which a lot of people do. They just throw the tools away.
@@357magdad I know you're trying and you've got hopes but I'm not sure if there is a solution. Handles that get mangy are simply defective. Because it doesn't happen to all of them. I have handles that are decades old and they've never gotten the pox. Then there's the troublesome ones.
I had a few snap on screwdrivers that the handles disintegrated . They replaced them. I also had a few Bass pro rods that developed mange. I think I cleaned them with alcohol . I finally thinned them from my rods. I hope one of your methods works. Great show thank You
Very interesting. The last one with the clear coat looks nice and shiny. As you said, only time will tell if the mange returns. I am happy we do not have smell-o-vision. LOL Dave.
That spray he used is not the most durable product available. With a better clear coat he may achieve better results? I'd recommend using Helmsman spar varnish. I've had excellent results using that on tools. It costs more but it's worth it. Helmsman is far more durable. It's tough stuff.
Thanks for the video and your continued pursuit of solutions for mange. Since this is Halloween, one title suggestion is: “Night Of The Living Mange - Coming To A Screwdriver Near You”. Happy Halloween.
I have several screwdrivers that have this white stuff on them. Even some worse than others. However, Not one of them has a smell like you describe. Most have no smell at all. The ones that do have a smell, just smell like plastic. Some of mine even came out of a moldy briefcase style tool box. But, I do still want to get them clean. Thank you for sharing your experience on this topic. God bless.
Interesting video, I thought about a good cleaning up and dipping the handles in clear epoxy and hang until dry, just a thought. Really like the Halloween theme, made it fun, thank you young man, enjoyed watching.
Thanks magdad i have a pellet pistol that i got from my dad i put it in my gun safe one day i was in it and got a bad smell Was the grips on the pistol i took it out and put in a sealed ammo can . Now i will try your way and try and get rid of the smell and mange .
Thanks for this video; I am fascinated by these stinking, corroded handles! Have you considered this technique, which I have seen used to restore yellowed plastic parts? The plastic is immersed in hydrogen peroxide in a clear basin, strips of LED lights are taped around the outside of the basin, and the plastic sits overnight in the illuminated peroxide. The plastic comes out de-yellowed and looks factory-fresh
Ah... Another chapter in the quest to eliminate the dreaded Mange. Keep at it Magdad. You are bound to find the answer. Loved the Halloween theme. There are probably a few subscribers who are working on it too. 😉 Happy Halloween.
I've seen other videos working this problem also. It is claimed that bacteria is involved in the decomposition. Maybe, after ammonia cleanup, exposing the handles to UV-C will "sterilize" them (for a while)?
I tried to use Rustoleum clear to clear coat a little shelf. I ended up sanding all of that crap off. It came out like ass. Then I went out and got a high performance clear product. I'm satisfied with the results I achieved with that. I used Helmsman spar varnish. Helmsman costs more but that's the way it goes with paint. You have to pay more to get more.
@@357magdad in my experience the performance you get with paint tracks exactly with what you pay for it. So much so I would tend to believe there's a wider conspiracy afoot. A secret paint cabal that operates in the shadows.
Great Video! What i find interesting is how many these you can find in the wild....just proves i believe, that no one really will toss a tool out..lol.. I know I struggle..😅 I think you should market the mange globe😅 enjoyed it!!
I believe the cause of the mange was an improper mix of the chemicals used in the manufacturing of the handles. Like epoxy if you add too much resin the mix won’t dry as fast or possibly be tacky- Western Forge was notorious for shoddy workmanship and many of their products would be considered factory seconds in any other company. 😂. Great stuff as always! 😃👍
I think they could be known as Zombie Screwdrivers. I have semi joined in your fight against the mange. I tried some screwdrivers in the ultrasonic. The water gets quite hot in there.I used Simple green. As time goes on I will use other products.. One screwdriver came out great. the others (Craftsman) did not do as well. If I have a break through, you will be the first to know. Great video Magdad.
Funny I have a huge bin of old screwdrivers I have inherited over time. The first time you mentioned this I had to go check. Nothing no mange. Could it be climate related I do live in northern British Columbia. Happy Halloween.
I would try a UVC light . They say it could be mold that is eating it. Next summer I will look for one in a garage sale and clean it and then treat it with UVC light for an hour. I have a box made and it works on the smell of old books . The screwdrivers I have never had a bad case of decomposing handles. Any screw drivers I cleaned up hang on the wall. I never had a problem with it.
@@357magdad You deserve the credit for chasing this horrifying phenomenon. I too am a victim of this--and I loved my old Craftsman screwdrivers. Thanks again.
😂👍🏻🤣 Makes me wonder if soaking in baking soda water for a week would neutralize it. I enjoyed the vid. Funny. We wait for a part 3 and hope it's not titled, "Revenge of the Mange"
Yeah coating it might work. But I think he needs to use something better than that Rustoleum clear. I've used Rustoleum clear and it's pretty anemic as far as clear coats go. If you can do worse I'm not aware of it personally.
If you leave tools out in the fresh air that seems to impede the growth of mange. It isn't a cure but it slows it. Mange likes it dark, hot and humid. It's an organism. It's some kind of bacterial feeding on the cellulose. A couple have been identified so far. I've heard it doesn't exist on the continent of Australia. At least not yet. We've got it bad in America though.
That's how I clean mange. I use a cleaner and steel wool. The cleaner seems to kill the stuff and the steel wool gets it off. But then it always comes back. As best as anyone knows the plastic wasn't catalyzed correctly when it was made. So handles that get mangy are just susceptible to the bacteria that causes it. Because it doesn't happen to all the handles.
I don't think there is any tool challenge Magdad won't tackle. Those screwdriver handles look so good after the cleanup that they deserve to stay that way. My average guy- type of solution would be to clean the handles up, then seal them with clear epoxy or clear plastic spray to tame the mange.
We'll see after next mange season. Mange likes heat and humidity. So it's most active in the summer. But apparently you can cook it with too much heat. It is a living bacteria.
That's a good bit of info. it looks to me like smart people on this channel have diagnosed why this mange occurs. Maybe there is an organic chemist or other pro that can offer a hopefully permanent cure.@@1pcfred
Hey !Bonjour docteur Magdad, les trois tournevis ressemblent à des outils morts vivants, grâce à vos soins ils repartent de bon pied. Ce n'est pas parce que c'est Halloween 🎃 qu'il faut faire n'importe quoi. Heureusement docteur Magdad est là. ❤
Did they make these "screw-jabbers" out of anything other than CAB ??? I have a set of these "Crapsman" drivers that is quite old, and none of them have the mange. Does my local environment help me avoid the dreaded mange ??? Great video !!! Well written !!!
I like your humor, but your fixes will not get rid of it. The problem is that the degradation of cellulose acetate and its related plastics is auto catalytic. The smell is from butyric acid. Any acetic or butyric acid left behind will cause more mange. Coating it will only seal it in. I would suggest the ammonia followed by heat in cycles until the smell goes away.
Yeah but there's actually a bacteria that's eating the plastic. There's no known cure. It isn't all handles either. Some just weren't catalyzed right when they were made. They're defective. So far no one's discovered how to fix that. It may not even be possible. There's a lot of info on the net about it. Some legitimate science has been done.
YES! The video I have been waiting for, … ever since your last video, I have been trying to cure the smell. I tried 12% hydrogen peroxide for weeks and I don’t think it worked. I can’t wait to see if you found a cure for the smell!
4:40 this is exactly where I was going next! I was going to throw it into a toaster oven, but a heat gun sounds like it might be quicker? I think a toaster oven might be more accurate in trying to straddle the temperature range of being above 100C but below 120C where CAB melts
there is only one thing that really helps, you have to burn it and make a handle out of new sanctified wood, or you can just weld a piece of pipe to it :-)
I reckon a man of your talents should ditch the decomposing handles and make a wooden one or, even better, a resin one. The latter idea, you could cast the shaft into the handle and when dry, use the shaft to true up and polish the handle in your little lathe. Regardless of what you do, thanks for your tireless work entertaining us with your interesting and sometimes humorous videos.
Heat and moisture grows mange. It's a bacteria. It's literally eating the handles. It's even regional. Mange is not all over the globe. It's an infection.
Absolute answer is........break or melt off the plastic crap and replace with a wood handle...one cherry,one black walnut, and one apple...lets use that turney machine thing...🖖
Nice video. Do you need more screwdrivers that have the mange? For scientific research. I’m sure a simple request and you would have viewers from all over sending them to you. Just kidding.
The heat method seems to be a variation of this ruclips.net/video/TBj8Q-HyicA/видео.htmlsi=iJzakD1ObK6Lmi6D . Maybe you need to go full tilt, mechanical, heat, chemical, cologne, wax and clear coat?
For more Halloween fun check out these videos:
Armando Loni - ruclips.net/video/uYdtHn8HXSc/видео.html
Big Vic's WorkShop - ruclips.net/video/YqXhzag2_3Y/видео.html
Robert Foust Resto-Rob - ruclips.net/video/Z5dtg0_3IkQ/видео.html
The clear coat is the only thing I could think of while watching the restoration so I hope it works. Thanks for sharing this.
Thin coat of clear epoxy.
Me too John!
What a fantastic video thanks for sharing your thoughts and your time 👍👍
Thanks Brian! Happy Halloween!
Interesting!! I think the clear painted one will fair the best!! I wonder how well a thin coat of clear epoxy would work!!☻
I'll keep an eye on them and see if they last!
Avon car colognes: Core memory unlocked. Magdad, you collect EVERYTHING.
Check out my recent flea market haul:
ruclips.net/video/fsSrTCzR1-o/видео.html
Well done Magdad! Love the movie analogies to your methods used. Must have taken some real time to put together, very clever!
Thanks! It was a fun video to edit!
Clear handled screwdrivers are made from cellulose acetate butyrate for their electrical insulator properties. The chalky white residue are plasticizers decomposing and the vomit smell is butyric acid off gassing. Options are : return for exchange if Craftsman or lifetime warranty brand , clean with chemicals, buff and coat with polyurethane to contain stink , cut off stinky handle and replace with new one or simply throw it away . There is no guarantee if cleaned and coated that it will not continue to decompose .
Thanks for watching!
that lifetime warranty is subjective
i had tools from a sears craftsman set and tried a warranty exchange at lowes they said it was sears craftsman and to try them sears closed tried craftsman online wanted a receipt from 1985... easier to shoplift a replacement
Thanks to your previous video I de-manged all my screwdrivers in ammonia overnight and then into an ultrasonic. Even if mange starts to come back your ammonia method is so easy I can do it as periodic maintenance.
@@2OO_OK
just curious do you just use plain water in the ultrasonic or add some sort of cleaner?
@@frankg3072 It might have been Dawn or Simple Green. I run a lot of parts in the dirty water so I forget what is in it. I suspect plain water would work because the mange loses mechanical integrity after the ammonia.
I'm glad the ammonia is working for you! Try adding some nice smelling cologne to mask the stink!
I was hoping that you would cut off the mange plastic handles and use your mini lathe with cherry wood and make a new handle with a brass ferrule. Thanks for trying, still very interesting and worth a try.
I've got a tiny lathe project coming up in November Larry!
I collect Xcelite tools, and what I always end up doing is washing them in the sink with regular bar soap after scraping off the majority of the white crust. I also keep them in a sunny window, which seems to keep the mange away. Using the tools also seems to keep it away. I just accept the slight (but hardly noticeable) smell as part of the enjoyment of my tools.
I'm glad your Xcelites don't smell like vomit!
Great video Magdad. It will be interesting to see if spray will stop the mange and the smell from returning. Thanks Magdad
I hope it lasts Michael!
Happy Halloween to you Magdad. I enjoyed your show today. I agree with the person that suggested making your own handle. Thank You for sharing.
So far there is no known long term cure for mange. When those handles were cast they were made defectively. So what's going on is irreversible. Because not every handle gets mangy. Only some suffer from the affliction.
Thanks Jack! Happy Halloween!
Can't wait until the sequel comes out. great Video Magdad.
The Mange 3 in 3D!
Thanks Magdad, fun video, but perhaps I shouldn't have watched it over breakfast, I know that smell only too well ! Hoping that your experiments pay off and the mange is kept at bay ! Happy Halloween to you too !
Thanks Andy! Sorry about your breakfast!
If the Avon aftershave works, it scares me what it would do to my face. Thanks for the laugh. Brought back memories of a great aunt who used to give Avon aftershave for every holiday 😂
I'm glad you enjoyed it Gary! I've got a small collection of Avon cars.
If the clear coat you used doesn't work over time, maybe try getting some old fashioned clear cellulose laquer? It might bond better given the handles are a type of cellulose? Your sprayed one looked like new. A brilliant result. 👍
Thanks Mike!
The sreering wheel in my 54 Studebaker did that, plus severe cracking. I repaired with epoxy and painted with a quality automotive primer and paint. After more than 10 years the interior of the car smells better but the cracking is starting to return.
Ten years is pretty good Larry!
That's one of those smells that once it's in your nose you can't unsmell it! Fun video.
Thanks George! Luckily all I could smell was that Avon stuff once I opened it!
MD, Very appropriate video for Halloween. I appreciate all your efforts, both to conquer the mange and present a fun story to your viewers. Thanks so much for sharing this fun episode.
Thanks John! I'm glad you enjoyed it! Happy Halloween!
You need to summarize the techniques utilized and distinguish between methods used. Stiilits another winner of a video.
Thanks for watching.
We appreciate your research MagDad. I think I will try the steel wool and paste wax method. They look really nice now!
I just watched Part 1 of this video last night 😂. I have a screwdriver I'm trying to fix but I did enjoy Part 2 as well Magdad.
As best as we can tell mange is due to a faulty chemical process when the handle was manufactured. Once a handle goes mangy that's it. You can only manage it then. There is no cure. It's actually a manufacturing defect. The permanent solution is to get rid of the handle. Which a lot of people do. They just throw the tools away.
Thanks! I hope you can defeat the mange!
@@357magdad I know you're trying and you've got hopes but I'm not sure if there is a solution. Handles that get mangy are simply defective. Because it doesn't happen to all of them. I have handles that are decades old and they've never gotten the pox. Then there's the troublesome ones.
I had a few snap on screwdrivers that the handles disintegrated . They replaced them. I also had a few Bass pro rods that developed mange. I think I cleaned them with alcohol . I finally thinned them from my rods. I hope one of your methods works. Great show thank You
Thanks for watching!
I love my vintage Craftsman screwdrivers but ooh that smell. Great video. I will be watching for the results.
Dab them with some cologne Kevin!
Very interesting. The last one with the clear coat looks nice and shiny. As you said, only time will tell if the mange returns.
I am happy we do not have smell-o-vision. LOL
Dave.
That spray he used is not the most durable product available. With a better clear coat he may achieve better results? I'd recommend using Helmsman spar varnish. I've had excellent results using that on tools. It costs more but it's worth it. Helmsman is far more durable. It's tough stuff.
I was impressed with how well the clear coat went on!
Thanks for the video and your continued pursuit of solutions for mange.
Since this is Halloween, one title suggestion is:
“Night Of The Living Mange - Coming To A Screwdriver Near You”.
Happy Halloween.
I love the title Brain! Thanks!
Very good, would not have thought about the heat gun. We have the exact same workbench!
That work bench was my dad's. I think it came from a high school shop.
I have several screwdrivers that have this white stuff on them. Even some worse than others. However, Not one of them has a smell like you describe. Most have no smell at all. The ones that do have a smell, just smell like plastic. Some of mine even came out of a moldy briefcase style tool box. But, I do still want to get them clean. Thank you for sharing your experience on this topic. God bless.
I'm glad yours don't smell like vomit!
@@357magdad Me too.
great video. Can't wait for the followup.
Thanks for watching!
“I have not failed 10,000 times-I’ve successfully found 10,000 ways that will not work.”
Hopefully the mange will stay away this time!
Interesting video, I thought about a good cleaning up and dipping the handles in clear epoxy and hang until dry, just a thought. Really like the Halloween theme, made it fun, thank you young man, enjoyed watching.
I'm glad you enjoyed it Terry! Happy Halloween!
You're now the hero of your own horror story! Nice work Magdad!
Thanks Matt! Happy Halloween!
Thanks magdad i have a pellet pistol that i got from my dad i put it in my gun safe one day i was in it and got a bad smell Was the grips on the pistol i took it out and put in a sealed ammo can . Now i will try your way and try and get rid of the smell and mange .
Good luck Larry!
Very interesting and informative experiment today. I hope at some point you make another one and let us know if they were successful.
I'll let you know Frank!
I have this nice antique eggbeater drill that is all coated with that wish i could clean it up used to use it as a kid it has fond memories
Give the steel wool + clear coat a try!
Thanks for this video; I am fascinated by these stinking, corroded handles!
Have you considered this technique, which I have seen used to restore yellowed plastic parts? The plastic is immersed in hydrogen peroxide in a clear basin, strips of LED lights are taped around the outside of the basin, and the plastic sits overnight in the illuminated peroxide. The plastic comes out de-yellowed and looks factory-fresh
A viewer commented that he tried the hydrogen peroxide + UV and it didn't work.
Ah... Another chapter in the quest to eliminate the dreaded Mange. Keep at it Magdad. You are bound to find the answer. Loved the Halloween theme. There are probably a few subscribers who are working on it too. 😉 Happy Halloween.
Thanks! Happy Halloween!
Great video lots of fun. Thanks for the entertainment. Have a happy Halloween.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Happy Halloween!
Well done, would like to see an update on these specimens in the next mange episode
Thanks! I'll let you know!
I've seen other videos working this problem also. It is claimed that bacteria is involved in the decomposition. Maybe, after ammonia cleanup, exposing the handles to UV-C will "sterilize" them (for a while)?
Thanks Richard!
Happy Halloween to you and the family!
Thanks Barry! Happy Halloween!
I sure hope magdad does a Christmas episode. 😊
Check out last year's episode:
ruclips.net/video/zYbFyETA4Cg/видео.html
Sometime I want to try clear epoxy on one. Mix up enough to dip the plastic handle in.
Give it a try!
Great video my friend. Keep testing you will figure out the perfect fix one day
Thanks David! It was fun to put together!
Great video! I’ve fought the mange odor for years…after discovering it wasn’t me that stank, I was so happy, I just let it ride!
I hope no one stinks as bad as the mange! Happy Halloween John!
I tried to use Rustoleum clear to clear coat a little shelf. I ended up sanding all of that crap off. It came out like ass. Then I went out and got a high performance clear product. I'm satisfied with the results I achieved with that. I used Helmsman spar varnish. Helmsman costs more but that's the way it goes with paint. You have to pay more to get more.
The Helmsman stuff was outside of my budget for this project.
@@357magdad in my experience the performance you get with paint tracks exactly with what you pay for it. So much so I would tend to believe there's a wider conspiracy afoot. A secret paint cabal that operates in the shadows.
Very well done.
Thanks Mike!
Great Video! What i find interesting is how many these you can find in the wild....just proves i believe, that no one really will toss a tool out..lol.. I know I struggle..😅 I think you should market the mange globe😅 enjoyed it!!
I see mangy handles all the time! Happy Halloween Vic!
When you were complaining about the smell I was thinking you should put some Avon juice on the handles. Great minds. Nice video.
I was gonna go out and buy some cologne, but I had the Avon stuff handy...
Happy Halloween I hope one works on keeping the mange at bay
Happy Halloween Larry! Me too!
Now I want to give out mange snowglobes as gifts...
The new hot gift item this season!
I believe the cause of the mange was an improper mix of the chemicals used in the manufacturing of the handles. Like epoxy if you add too much resin the mix won’t dry as fast or possibly be tacky- Western Forge was notorious for shoddy workmanship and many of their products would be considered factory seconds in any other company. 😂. Great stuff as always! 😃👍
I think it is the "nature of the beast" with CAB plastic. PB Swiss tells its customers that vanilla has been added to mask the inevitable stink.
@@357magdad do they come in chocolate
You are so much fun (and informative). I wish you were my neighbor.
We are RUclips neighbors!
Thanks for your hard work on the mange. I have a few to attack before long
The search for a cure continues...
I think they could be known as Zombie Screwdrivers. I have semi joined in your fight against the mange. I tried some screwdrivers in the ultrasonic. The water gets quite hot in there.I used Simple green. As time goes on I will use other products.. One screwdriver came out great. the others (Craftsman) did not do as well. If I have a break through, you will be the first to know. Great video Magdad.
Thanks Dale! A viewer mentioned that he soaks them in ammonia and then the ultra sonic w/ Simple Green.
Great video.
Thanks James!
Happy Halloween back at you as my dad's birthday right on Halloween his mother always said look at what the black cat drug in thank you for the video👻
Happy Birthday Joe!
Another great one and funny also.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Well done video! Lots of credits to the editing !!
Thanks Alex! It was a fun video to put together!
Funny I have a huge bin of old screwdrivers I have inherited over time. The first time you mentioned this I had to go check. Nothing no mange. Could it be climate related I do live in northern British Columbia. Happy Halloween.
I'm glad you are mange free!
Excellent video!!!
Thanks!
Interesting to watch 👏👏
Thanks for watching!
Saludos desde Almería España 👍🛠️⛏️⚒️ aquí no está esa maldita sarna pero me ayuda a rejuvenecer Alós caídos en combate que recupero gracias
Thanks for watching! Happy Halloween from New Jersey!
I say it’s time to bust off those handles and turn some new ones. 😂
I've got a tiny lathe project coming up in November - stay tuned Barry!
I think ammonia and steel wool bath to clean, then several quick dips in lacquer thinner to close the surface. Multi point attack.
Some plastic crazes when it is exposed to aromatic solvents. I've seen plastics get all shot through with cracks. Then it's real brittle.
Thanks Tom!
I would try a UVC light . They say it could be mold that is eating it. Next summer I will look for one in a garage sale and clean it and then treat it with UVC light for an hour. I have a box made and it works on the smell of old books . The screwdrivers I have never had a bad case of decomposing handles. Any screw drivers I cleaned up hang on the wall. I never had a problem with it.
Thanks Steve!
Cure for the smell ? Magdad I recommend Chanel 5. Hope that helps. Happy Halloween. !!!!!
I bet they would smell great! Happy Halloween Timmy!
The prose is poetry.
It was a fun video to put together!
@@357magdad You deserve the credit for chasing this horrifying phenomenon. I too am a victim of this--and I loved my old Craftsman screwdrivers. Thanks again.
😂👍🏻🤣 Makes me wonder if soaking in baking soda water for a week would neutralize it. I enjoyed the vid. Funny. We wait for a part 3 and hope it's not titled,
"Revenge of the Mange"
Thanks James! Happy Halloween!
Maybe, just maybe a coat of epoxy resin will keep the monster contained.
Happy Halloween.
Yeah coating it might work. But I think he needs to use something better than that Rustoleum clear. I've used Rustoleum clear and it's pretty anemic as far as clear coats go. If you can do worse I'm not aware of it personally.
Happy Halloween!
I just take mine to work and leave them in the workshop.And no one ever takes them.😂
If you leave tools out in the fresh air that seems to impede the growth of mange. It isn't a cure but it slows it. Mange likes it dark, hot and humid. It's an organism. It's some kind of bacterial feeding on the cellulose. A couple have been identified so far. I've heard it doesn't exist on the continent of Australia. At least not yet. We've got it bad in America though.
That's probably why I see so many at yard sales!
Happy Halloween magdad! I’ve noticed you using a few different kinds of paste wax recently. Have you found a good one to replace sc Johnson’s?
The Minwax isn't bad...
Steel wool looks the best
That's how I clean mange. I use a cleaner and steel wool. The cleaner seems to kill the stuff and the steel wool gets it off. But then it always comes back. As best as anyone knows the plastic wasn't catalyzed correctly when it was made. So handles that get mangy are just susceptible to the bacteria that causes it. Because it doesn't happen to all the handles.
I can get plastic handles looking new with steel wool and polish!
I don't think there is any tool challenge Magdad won't tackle. Those screwdriver handles look so good after the cleanup that they deserve to stay that way. My average guy- type of solution would be to clean the handles up, then seal them with clear epoxy or clear plastic spray to tame the mange.
We'll see after next mange season. Mange likes heat and humidity. So it's most active in the summer. But apparently you can cook it with too much heat. It is a living bacteria.
That's a good bit of info. it looks to me like smart people on this channel have diagnosed why this mange occurs. Maybe there is an organic chemist or other pro that can offer a hopefully permanent cure.@@1pcfred
Thanks Pat! I'll let you know how they hold up!
Hey !Bonjour docteur Magdad, les trois tournevis ressemblent à des outils morts vivants, grâce à vos soins ils repartent de bon pied. Ce n'est pas parce que c'est Halloween 🎃 qu'il faut faire n'importe quoi. Heureusement docteur Magdad est là. ❤
Happy Halloween Patrick!
Try a thin coat of epoxy resin.
I'm waiting to see if my cheap clear coat works first.
I hope that wasn't Mrs. Magdads tooth brush!
She would not be happy!
For a longer lasting fix, I'd go for Holy water, those handles wouldn't stand a chance!
They could use an exorcism!
Maybe a coating of urethane would help block the smell.
I'm hoping my clear coat work!
Chuck would know what to do with the mange.
He told me to make new wood handles for them!
@@357magdad Yesss, listen to him.
Did they make these "screw-jabbers" out of anything other than CAB ??? I have a set of these "Crapsman" drivers that is quite old, and none of them have the mange. Does my local environment help me avoid the dreaded mange ??? Great video !!! Well written !!!
Viewers in dry climates like Arizona have commented that they are mange free.
@@357magdad I'm in Memphis....not exactly dry.....???
Soak those screwdrivers in Simple Green overnight. Wash them the next morning and they will be like new and no smell.
That has not been my experience, but I'm glad it worked for you John!
It's one of those awful smells you hate but you also keep sniffing because it's oddly compelling
It compelled me to find a cure!
I like your humor, but your fixes will not get rid of it. The problem is that the degradation of cellulose acetate and its related plastics is auto catalytic. The smell is from butyric acid. Any acetic or butyric acid left behind will cause more mange. Coating it will only seal it in. I would suggest the ammonia followed by heat in cycles until the smell goes away.
Yeah but there's actually a bacteria that's eating the plastic. There's no known cure. It isn't all handles either. Some just weren't catalyzed right when they were made. They're defective. So far no one's discovered how to fix that. It may not even be possible. There's a lot of info on the net about it. Some legitimate science has been done.
If it's an acid, a base should neutralize the smell and decomposition.
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@@alpine1600s the acid is a symptom and not the cause.
@@1pcfred It is both. Acid is a product of the decomposition, but it also causes further decomposition.
YES! The video I have been waiting for, … ever since your last video, I have been trying to cure the smell. I tried 12% hydrogen peroxide for weeks and I don’t think it worked. I can’t wait to see if you found a cure for the smell!
4:40 this is exactly where I was going next! I was going to throw it into a toaster oven, but a heat gun sounds like it might be quicker? I think a toaster oven might be more accurate in trying to straddle the temperature range of being above 100C but below 120C where CAB melts
Oh no! Nothing worked! Ahhhh, this is a very scary Halloween!
Try some cologne!
Use Naphtha (lighter fluid) and the crud wipes right off.
Thanks!
there is only one thing that really helps, you have to burn it and make a handle out of new sanctified wood, or you can just weld a piece of pipe to it :-)
I like wood handle tools.
I reckon a man of your talents should ditch the decomposing handles and make a wooden one or, even better, a resin one.
The latter idea, you could cast the shaft into the handle and when dry, use the shaft to true up and polish the handle in your little lathe.
Regardless of what you do, thanks for your tireless work entertaining us with your interesting and sometimes humorous videos.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Happy Halloween!
Always confused between Ammonia and Bleach. When to use one vs the other.
I tried both:
ruclips.net/video/n_Q4zsE_bFA/видео.html
ha and never at same time..
Makes me shudder to think how much DNA is in that mange from sweaty hands
Heat and moisture grows mange. It's a bacteria. It's literally eating the handles. It's even regional. Mange is not all over the globe. It's an infection.
Every old tool I work on was handled by others...
I'm surprised you didn't use Axe deodorant Spay after that cleaning. 🤪
I was gonna buy some cologne, but I was shocked at the price!
Is it really worth the time and effort. Remove the handle and reuse the shank.
There are vintage tools infected with the mange that I want to be able to restore, not destroy.
I am sorry but the mange would return but slowly. Best of luck!
Thanks for watching!
instead of Avon how about old spice that would remind some of us of the guys that left us the tools
"If your grandfather hadn't worn it, you wouldn't exist."
Try Pepsi, coke, or 7 up?
What about Dr Pepper?
Absolute answer is........break or melt off the plastic crap and replace with a wood handle...one cherry,one black walnut, and one apple...lets use that turney machine thing...🖖
I've got a tiny lathe project coming up in November - stay tuned!
Vomit and aftershave. Sounds like when I was a drinker in my twenties.
That's funny Ben! Happy Halloween!
Nice video. Do you need more screwdrivers that have the mange? For scientific research. I’m sure a simple request and you would have viewers from all over sending them to you. Just kidding.
I see them at the sales all the time!
The heat method seems to be a variation of this ruclips.net/video/TBj8Q-HyicA/видео.htmlsi=iJzakD1ObK6Lmi6D . Maybe you need to go full tilt, mechanical, heat, chemical, cologne, wax and clear coat?
Good idea David!
Uncle Bob Approved!
Uncle Bob doesn’t have a cure, but he does have a nice clean screwdriver he is bringing to you soon.
Thanks! Happy Halloween!