$11,000, 170mm travel - 2022 Specialized KENEVO SL Electric Mountain Bike Review

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @vitalmtb
    @vitalmtb  3 года назад +8

    Video breakdown
    0:00 - Intro
    1:00 - Kenevo SL Geometry
    1:38 - Kenevo SL Motor & Battery
    3:03 - Mastermind Turbo Control Unit (TCU)
    4:21 - On-Trail Motor Performance
    5:23 - Micro Tune Adjust Feature
    5:57 - Kenevo SL Descending Performance
    7:13 - Specialized Tire Performance
    7:32 - Kenevo SL Weight
    8:49 - Kenevo SL Weaknesses

  • @Paintmaster5f00
    @Paintmaster5f00 3 года назад +93

    normalizing these prices is crazy.

  • @mac16a
    @mac16a 3 года назад +51

    The fact that you have to replace wheels and be aware of overheating brakes at that price point seems ridiculous.

    • @br5380
      @br5380 Год назад +1

      Roval wheels do have a lifetime warranty.

  • @r0ket_335
    @r0ket_335 3 года назад +79

    18000$ canadian.... for that price I could build a top of the line custom bikes, buy a bike park season pass and a car to transport the bike.... Just stupid at this point

    • @pinchpeak5203
      @pinchpeak5203 3 года назад +5

      Or invest it into your future and retire early

    • @JasonWD
      @JasonWD 3 года назад +1

      It’s actually $13K Canadian.

  • @Coerced
    @Coerced 3 года назад +42

    Looking forward to these things becoming affordable!

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 3 года назад +1

      Me too, but I guess that will never happen..
      At least not while these bikes are fully functional.
      Maybe in 8-10 years, when there are no more battery and motor replacements and updates.

    • @Coerced
      @Coerced 3 года назад +1

      ​@@rolux4853 high tech nowadays will be budget tech in 5 years. What's top of the line now @ 12k will be budget line @ 4k in 5 years. Top of the line then will be 13k and no average rider will be able to tell the difference but everyone will think they need top of the line tech.

    • @Kenneynrg
      @Kenneynrg 3 года назад +3

      Not while governments are giving away money ... it’s called “inflation”

    • @justgo4033
      @justgo4033 3 года назад

      Me to , i mean this thing is double the price of a Suron .

    • @Aggressive_Splooge
      @Aggressive_Splooge 3 года назад +5

      Hahaha never gonna happen, mtbs just keep getting more expensive.

  • @johnnyrock6576
    @johnnyrock6576 3 года назад +3

    Well done, Specialized. Excellent production on the video!

  • @robp3431
    @robp3431 3 года назад +2

    Awesome detailed review with sweet riding !!! If I had those kinda trails, I would consider the Kenevo.

  • @Gufolicious
    @Gufolicious 3 года назад +5

    I dont know why you guys all hate on the price. Apparently there are plenty of people with the funds for that kind of purchase otherwise they would not be sold out everywhere. So stop hating go get a 2nd job if you want one too.

    • @gaud1977
      @gaud1977 3 года назад +1

      I still have a 2008 car so I ordered one last week :P

  • @j_manoffical6825
    @j_manoffical6825 3 года назад +14

    15k frick me dude

  • @robertonjr10
    @robertonjr10 3 года назад +4

    Isn't the suspension kitted Performance Elite??? I mean there is no difference just the Kashima Coating

    • @treyblakeandrew
      @treyblakeandrew 3 года назад

      Fox discontinued the PE Float X2, so it’s definitely performance

    • @jasonschroeder2896
      @jasonschroeder2896 3 года назад

      The fork is same minus Kashima. The Fox Float X2 performance rear shock only has low speed compression and low speed rebound adjustment, plus independent open/firm lever for pedaling. The Factory X2 is Kashima coated and has high/low rebound and high/low compression adjustment, plus option for independent open/firm lever for pedaling.

  • @iamgeneric1888
    @iamgeneric1888 3 года назад +6

    It is sad that people get so sad about the cost. If you can't justify the expense then don't buy one. Everyone makes there own value judgments on things like cars, houses , the city or suburb you live in, clothes etc. If it is not worth it to you then don't buy one. The companies don't seem to have any issue selling every bike they make.

    • @johnnyrock6576
      @johnnyrock6576 3 года назад

      E-bikes are a high end option for those who cannot or WILL NOT pay their bicycle dues by putting in saddle time. I'm curious about ebikes, but, I'm not convinced they're a good fit for mtbiking. I'm no podium shredder, but, I get around just fine using John-power.

    • @UllrRoo
      @UllrRoo 3 года назад

      Because the costs of mountain biking are getting insane, but as long as enough people pay it companies can justify the steep price tags. If everyone spoke by not spending that much prices would come down. There is no way the cost of production, R&D etc is more for a bicycle than a motorcycle or small car.

    • @tomnutting3836
      @tomnutting3836 2 года назад

      People love to have something to be jealous of and whinge about 🤣

  • @ricusmate
    @ricusmate 3 года назад +2

    My 2007 overbuilt Freeride/Enduro Kona was the same weight without a motor.

  • @rolux4853
    @rolux4853 3 года назад +9

    That „ARMOR AGAINST THE CORPORATE MENTALITY“ shirt he is wearing is so ironic when reviewing this ridiculously expensive bike..

  • @500whpSTI
    @500whpSTI 3 года назад +4

    So will there be a comp version in the future? 11k is so out of range for probably 95% of the interested population

    • @elyhim
      @elyhim 3 года назад

      8500 for the frame..

  • @leeridesmtb
    @leeridesmtb 11 месяцев назад

    Great video 👌🏼

  • @Markley92
    @Markley92 3 года назад

    Can you dive deeper into the “rearward axle” and how it helped dh riding?

  • @kix17mtb55
    @kix17mtb55 2 года назад

    Hi Jason! I just had my kenevo sl expert and its been a lot of fun riding both uphill and downhill. This bike can bring you to a different level of skills.. i just wanna know whats the set up of your riding. Thank you

  • @kawasaki000000000000
    @kawasaki000000000000 3 года назад

    For the people that are purchasing this bike is it going to hurt there pocket that much more for paying the 450 for the other battery pac?

  • @stevenschiff808
    @stevenschiff808 3 года назад

    My I use "fresh lomers" please?

  • @Ryan_Burney
    @Ryan_Burney 3 года назад +2

    Great work Jason! Awesome review.

  • @dag681
    @dag681 3 года назад

    These prices make me love my derestricted 2019 Kenevo received new for $5300, freaking way more. The few changes are not gonna add anything to the absolute speed in the woods, over my bike. I use ECO mode to climb, other modes for flat out speed. Would i like it to weigh 42 pounds? For sure, but the trade off in absolute speed through rolling terrain that the new smaller motor delivers, drops the issue.

  • @cdwag23
    @cdwag23 2 года назад

    Only $11,000? What a steal !

  • @rm2005nz
    @rm2005nz 3 года назад

    'Never mind the bike how are the new Afton shoes

  • @benjy288
    @benjy288 3 года назад +5

    That's crazy expensive, you can get a brand new KTM 500 EXC-F six days for $13000, that's 2 grand cheaper than the top model Kenevo, and it has an internal combustion engine.

    • @ClarkBark14
      @ClarkBark14 3 года назад

      I was thinking a Yamaha 450, a supermoto wheelset, and a Slash and 2k left over...

    • @benjy288
      @benjy288 3 года назад

      @@ClarkBark14 Yep, you could even get a brand new Chevrolet Spark for less, who would of ever imagined a time when a new mountain bike would cost more than a new car?

    • @thepassionofthegoose5472
      @thepassionofthegoose5472 3 года назад

      Came here to say the exact same thing. My XR650R sumo built with the tastiest of tasty bits costs less than this thing, and will never lose value given it's desirability. I'd love an e-MTB, but not for proper bike money. I'll stick to pedaling, which is honestly better for me anyway.

    • @eatnpooter1634
      @eatnpooter1634 2 года назад +1

      Yea but with mtb’s you can shred during the week with buddy’s. A lot easier and you get your fix 🤷🏼‍♂️.. I guess just depends on how you look at it . 🤙🏻

  • @sebastianolagnier8430
    @sebastianolagnier8430 3 года назад +3

    Nice job Schroeder, great review

  • @da12641
    @da12641 3 года назад

    this type of Enduro ebike is indeed the future but the cost/price that Specialized and Orbea offers are just ridiculous!!

  • @wumbobo
    @wumbobo 3 года назад +3

    HOW IS IT OUT OF STOCK ALREADY? WHO IS BUYING THIS STUFF?

    • @simonfarr8670
      @simonfarr8670 3 года назад

      shops placed pre-book orders for the bikes. my shop has several arriving in a few weeks. let me stress, you can. not. order. bikes. if the local shop doesn’t have them already on order.

    • @wumbobo
      @wumbobo 3 года назад

      @@simonfarr8670 Dude let me know how many people actually end up buying them in your shop, I'm curious. At this point these bikes aren't even in dentist territory this is like neurosurgeon salary

    • @raupenimmersatt6906
      @raupenimmersatt6906 3 года назад

      @@wumbobo Lot of wealthy people are into E-MTBing (not normal MTBin!) and they pay every price as they dont have any idea about bikes in general.
      Who in their right mind buys S-Works E-Bikes? You can build up better stuff fof cheaper..

    • @TPV07
      @TPV07 3 года назад

      @@wumbobo doctors dont ride it is builders and tradesmen mate that is where the money is. Also most people get these bikes on cyclescheme saving loads on them. We had a small flooring company owner buying 5 hecklers couple of months ago in our shop One for every employee. He got them all on cyclescheme for them. Find a boss like that and you are good!

  • @BryceLovesTech
    @BryceLovesTech 3 года назад +2

    I love mountain biking but can you imagine telling your wife you're going to pay $11,000 for the entry-level mountain bike. She would slap me silly

    • @johnnyrock6576
      @johnnyrock6576 3 года назад +1

      You could 'fill in the blank' for what type of bike it is....it's the HELL NO $11K price tag is all she'll hear! lol I do not consider this an 'entry level' bike, per se: it's more a 2nd? generation high-tech/high end electric enduro mtb. My camber-comp 29 was the Specialized entry level full squish XC back in 2013.The prices make the sport elitist. imo. happy shredding!

    • @gaud1977
      @gaud1977 3 года назад

      The entry level (Comp) is 8500 tho

  • @thesolojourney8955
    @thesolojourney8955 2 года назад

    Plenty of decent bicycles out there for $3,000-5,000
    $11,000 is ridiculous but people will still get it…

  • @greed1058
    @greed1058 3 года назад +2

    Basically this tells me that 11k gets you a really nice bike

    • @johnnyrock6576
      @johnnyrock6576 3 года назад

      With some potentially perilous drawbacks (brake fade).

  • @MrCaiofern
    @MrCaiofern 3 года назад +6

    must to be amazing, but I was waiting for a kenevo 180mm travel, double crown

    • @KapitanPisoar1
      @KapitanPisoar1 3 года назад +2

      First of all WHY? And for the second, you can put it on yourself...

    • @MrCaiofern
      @MrCaiofern 3 года назад

      @@KapitanPisoar1 ok, thats fair. First, the trails I vve done since 2018 demand a 180 mm on the rear, or more. And the only reason I need an e-bike is to do go up the mountain without the necessity of any other kind of transportation. And what do you mean by I can do it by myself? like, i would buy this bike then buy a double crwn fork and still have 170mm in the rear ? it si waaaaayyyy too expensive and wouldn´t solve it.

    • @MrCaiofern
      @MrCaiofern 3 года назад +1

      in 2018 specialized released the kenevo with 180mm but 27,5 . As all my bikes are 29ers I want a 29er bike to be compatible with the others, it is usefull when you travel or live in a place without bike shops nearby, as I do.
      In 2018 I got the 2019 stumpjumper and said that when specialized releases a kenevo 29er I would buy it. But this one here isn´t what I was expecting. I wish it was like the older model but bigger wheels. And I am not going to buy the older one and make it a mullet.

    • @KapitanPisoar1
      @KapitanPisoar1 3 года назад +2

      @@MrCaiofern Yeah everybody needs 180+ travel and coil these days....

  • @trailsdetails4061
    @trailsdetails4061 3 года назад

    Having this bike is just a fancy way of saying 'I have too much disposable money'

    • @chickenclips
      @chickenclips 3 года назад

      that's what someone who does not have the money to spend would say. Works both ways

    • @gaud1977
      @gaud1977 3 года назад

      Not too bad if you still have a 2008 car like me

  • @samhayman5191
    @samhayman5191 3 года назад +23

    Any human willing to spend that on a bike needs their head checked.

    • @chickenclips
      @chickenclips 3 года назад +6

      life is too short to worry about bullshit. If you want it. Buy it

    • @deankruse2891
      @deankruse2891 3 года назад +4

      If you can afford it, buy it

    • @gaud1977
      @gaud1977 3 года назад +1

      Can I say the same for 40K+ cars . So I still have a 2008 car, so I bought a Kenevo SL last week

    • @eatnpooter1634
      @eatnpooter1634 2 года назад

      #yolo💯😎🤤

  • @vbadbee9123
    @vbadbee9123 3 года назад

    what up with a review of the turbo kenevo?? Man picking a standard bike is hard. now Picking a e bike is double as hard.

  • @harveycasey1900
    @harveycasey1900 3 года назад +2

    11 to 15 grand. HELL NO! I love to ride & really want an E bike but @ them prices. No way Jose.

    • @elyhim
      @elyhim 3 года назад

      Yup, YT Industries $5600 model with 36/X2 and H1700 is the best deal atm followed by the Trek Rail. Specialized - great bikes but they are going way too high.

  • @akabukiman
    @akabukiman 3 года назад

    Funny what's considered as "wet" here. If my hometrails look like this, I use to call them dry 😂.

  • @asceticscorpio972
    @asceticscorpio972 3 года назад

    Now wait just a second there, I believe I misheard you . . . Right at the end did you say one more descent or another descent? Because it sounded like one more, but that can't be so because we ALL KNOW the end result of "one more" . . .

  • @stupidmoto
    @stupidmoto 3 года назад

    A 2021 Honda CRF450R is 11k out the door from a dealership, which gets you 60hp and 12 inches of suspension travel. This bicycle gets you people thinking you have more money than brains.

    • @chickenclips
      @chickenclips 3 года назад +3

      your comparison makes me think you have no brains

  • @cstudi
    @cstudi 3 года назад

    I've been saying this and specialized is close but.. If they try to go go even deeper into the less is moreness... call it "the shuttlle".. with only the bottle cage battery that you could swap at your parked car or... where ever combined with an even smaller motor offering less assist... maybe... hit 35 - 36 lbs.. oof..

    • @elyhim
      @elyhim 3 года назад

      Pivot's emtb is called the Shuttle.

  • @remar2434
    @remar2434 3 года назад

    Only in my dreams

  • @cdabcdefg12345
    @cdabcdefg12345 3 года назад +9

    Wow. A shirt that says "armor against the corporate mentality" while reviewing this bike. Why won't mountain bikers apply any sort of ethics to our ridiculous consumption of brand new bikes and constant upgrades?

    • @vitalmtb
      @vitalmtb  3 года назад +6

      This was a product review by an independent media outlet of a newly-released product. We said what was good and we said what was bad. Now, people have more information on how this bike performs in the real world and can decide if this is a good bike for them. We trust our readers/viewers to make up their own minds about what is worth a given dollar amount.

  • @filipw8050
    @filipw8050 3 года назад

    I think the shirt is a sign.

  • @solotraveller4351
    @solotraveller4351 3 года назад

    You can buy a bike like this but your will never buy a dinosaur

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 3 года назад

      I think at these price point there is a museum somewhere in the world that will sell you one..

  • @ethandeift1989
    @ethandeift1989 3 года назад

    I want this so badly

  • @chrism5768
    @chrism5768 3 года назад

    Literally more than any dirt bike that I know of now. The mark up is just wrong. It has to be

  • @RatluBoogerbag
    @RatluBoogerbag 3 года назад

    In what world is a 20KG bike acceptable and how is Specialized getting away with calling it "super light".

    • @dookie3453
      @dookie3453 3 года назад +1

      If you didn’t realise it’s an e bike..

    • @Shauny808
      @Shauny808 3 года назад

      Comp is out now, and the spec is terrible. 36 Rhythm 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @trailfork7815
    @trailfork7815 3 года назад +2

    and I thought spending 8k on my bike is stupid AF lmao

  • @Amadeus2231
    @Amadeus2231 3 года назад

    and the cheapest model is $11,000?! like I could buy two bikes for that price

  • @geekane9462
    @geekane9462 3 года назад +2

    320w battery and a higher price? Something doesn't click here. Paying more but getting less. I get that they're trying to make it lighter but on an ebike weight isn't much concern. And "proven" suspension technology; FSR Horst linkage is about 30 years old so yeah, its been around awhile. Suspension has come a long way since then. Oh well. Whatever Specialized.

  • @antcramp
    @antcramp 3 года назад +1

    $15K can get you 1/4 Bitcoin.
    Wait a year and buy 20 bikes.

  • @James-dn1hu
    @James-dn1hu 3 года назад +1

    Looks a bit like a giga

  • @overweightbadger
    @overweightbadger 3 года назад +3

    Too expensive even for dentists

    • @elyhim
      @elyhim 3 года назад

      Particularly when you have to get the wheels

  • @RM-yc3dq
    @RM-yc3dq 3 года назад +2

    Too expensive

  • @mamukaenuqidze151
    @mamukaenuqidze151 3 года назад +2

    Price👎👎👎

  • @TheSkurf
    @TheSkurf 2 года назад

    When lots of people have money and want to buy some dank shit, manufactures can’t even keep up, guess what happen$? Inflation is a bitch and we are just getting started. I suggest if you want the bike, then buy it, cause it isn’t going to be getting any cheaper in the future

  • @crush1221
    @crush1221 3 года назад +1

    Specialized prices wtf

  • @RideLowCo
    @RideLowCo 3 года назад +10

    11k for shit specs , only specialized

  • @nillkellog7832
    @nillkellog7832 3 года назад

    What is this world coming too.

  • @noobsinthewoods5194
    @noobsinthewoods5194 3 года назад

    Bike world Apple

  • @shrimpfriedrice494
    @shrimpfriedrice494 3 года назад +1

    $450 for a battery lol

  • @Mavo1989
    @Mavo1989 3 года назад +1

    poor bloke doing this is so damn monotone and no enthusiasm or fun you unfortunately zone out to him talking

  • @lostwithasmile485
    @lostwithasmile485 3 года назад

    Get a Cake for that $$

  • @LeadMunitions
    @LeadMunitions 3 года назад

    15,000 dollars…just ludicrous 😂 never thought I would see the day🤡

  • @batipapo
    @batipapo 3 года назад

    And I thought my Moto was expensive

    • @eatnpooter1634
      @eatnpooter1634 2 года назад

      Moto doesn’t even compare budget wise ... mtb’s waaaay cheaper every way you look @ it .

  • @grandpabill3286
    @grandpabill3286 3 года назад

    Actually ima buy a car

  • @chrisuhracing
    @chrisuhracing 3 года назад

    Acoustic bike, get in the sea 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @ricardojorgedelgadopinto134
    @ricardojorgedelgadopinto134 3 года назад

    Very good...but stupid expensive.
    More expensive than lots of good motos and Cars... The industry takes advantaged of our passion... But we are not all milionares ☹️ and honestly you dont have in that bike more mecanics or eletric than in a moto...so why that price???

    • @TheSkurf
      @TheSkurf 2 года назад

      It’s a combination of demand, manufacturing scarcity, the cost of R&D, inflation and the quality of material. All of that combined in this current economic climate means the market is willing to pay a premium to get this product. A lot of people have a lot of money at the moment, our means of production cannot keep up with our credit cards

  • @KapitanPisoar1
    @KapitanPisoar1 3 года назад +10

    Any reason not to buy a dirt bike, over this nonsense?

    • @SuperEarplugs
      @SuperEarplugs 3 года назад +5

      I mean you can ride bicycle pretty much anywhere, but I was thinking the same thing. You could buy a brand new dirt bike for 11k. These bicycles aren't even remotely worth it

    • @brentyancich
      @brentyancich 3 года назад +1

      Incredible bike, hopefully the technology becomes more affordable in the near future.

    • @KapitanPisoar1
      @KapitanPisoar1 3 года назад +1

      @@SuperEarplugs That's what I mean. You can ride anywhere on your MTB and if you wanna ride using motor, you might aswell get the dirt bike and keep your dignity. Also eMTBs are being banned from many trails, which is a good thing...

    • @twizzlestix9309
      @twizzlestix9309 3 года назад +3

      No. Better value for money and then you don’t have to lie yourself you’re still “exercising” when you go for a ride.

    • @twizzlestix9309
      @twizzlestix9309 3 года назад +4

      @@SuperEarplugs they are to rich people who don’t actually want to push themselves on a ride. I see them all the time where I live in the Bay Area, cruising top speed uphill convincing themselves they are mountain biking while they don’t come close to breaking a sweat.

  • @esdubya
    @esdubya 3 года назад +1

    Is it a surprise that a new model Ferrari is much lighter and faster in places than a Ford. But that price difference🤯.
    For me, like Ferrari’s I don’t care how much they are🤷🏽‍♂️ I probably will never see one let alone ride one
    For 11-15 k are we are not surprised that it’s good, We’re surprised that you think any normal person will buy one!
    It’s a business model that makes more enemies than friends.
    Thumbs up if you love specialised more for making the most overpriced mtbs 👎🏽

  • @nilog8587
    @nilog8587 3 года назад +7

    At the end its just a shitty ebike

  • @loamchasers
    @loamchasers 3 года назад

    Why would you want one anyway?? Get to the gym it’s cheaper😂

  • @amberridenhour1411
    @amberridenhour1411 3 года назад +4

    This will be the last time I watch this channel. So tired of this ebike push from these yt bike channels. It’s disgraceful. Ebikes are not the same thing as a mountain bike. One is a motor bike the other is not. Really hope that more bike trails continue to ban these things. My local trails just put a ban on them after complaints from bikers and hikers. You want to ride a motored bike, cool go for it. Just stop pretending it’s the same thing, stop pretending you are exercising, and stay off trails not built for motored bikes.

    • @encore159
      @encore159 3 года назад +2

      Never heard such bullshit in my life ever before. Just let people ride what they want lol. Literally none of your business whether some people want some assistance going up a hill. You must be a sad unhappy individual

    • @vitalmtb
      @vitalmtb  3 года назад +4

      We do agree with you on one thing - we do not say that e-bikes are mountain bikes. They are different, for sure. Part of what Vital does is bring objective product testing to our readers and viewers. The vast majority of our reviews are centered on mountain biking. Yes, we do review e-bikes as well but on a less frequent basis. Our goal is to inform people how a new product performs and holds up under our top-tier testers. People interested in e-bikes can learn more about what features they have and how they take a beating. People not interested in e-bikes, just don't watch that content (but come back for all the rad mountain bike content!)

    • @encore159
      @encore159 3 года назад +1

      @@vitalmtb lol how is an e-MTB not a mountainbike ? It is literally the exact same thing other than that it helps you up the hill if u want it to do so. I find the ongoing e-bike hate so sickening. It really shows how pathetic people are nowadays. Caring about wether other people ride Mountainbikes that have some pedal assist or not... How sad does ones life have to be to get angry about that?

    • @vitalmtb
      @vitalmtb  3 года назад +3

      @enCore Nobody is angry at anybody, well, we aren't at least! There's no "hating" here. Different isn't bad, different is good. Different is people having fun on different toys!

    • @Miasunn165
      @Miasunn165 3 года назад +1

      Have you ridden an ebike long term to write such an opinion? It can do wonders for older riders and those with disabilities and for many it’s no faster then a regular bike. For trails requiring 1000ft and more climbs it opens up new adventures. These are not motorcycles no diff then a in shape 20yr old riding.

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    @antn8387 3 года назад

    gtfo with those prices. I can buy a vehicle, bike rack, and full suspension bike and still have money left over.