***** If they had muted them we would still have the bass tracks, they are not extracted/filtered from the song. They come from master tapes which Metallica handed to guys at Guitar Hero for the game. But it's true, they are there, I can sometimes hear them in songs like Blackened and even in One. After hearing them isolated you can hear them.
Please re-release this record with the bass turned back on. This kid played his ass off on this record and has a nasty tone. You can tell he spent a lot of time on his sound after he got his dream gig and on his 1st release they mute him. FUCKING HORRIBLE!
@Brandon S. Hire yea you're right he's there. I get a little frustrated when I know how awesome this album could sound if it was mixed properly. Especially with this gnarly bass tone holding it down. Shit man they might as well have muted him though, because you can't hear what Jason laid.
A remaster doesn´t do much in terms of that. It is basically the same mix with louder volume. A remix will do the trick, but it is very unlikely to happen.
Firstnup, Jason is 'my' Tallica bassist, so I'm not sniping, BUT... These isols show why there was no great loss to the way Justice was mixed, instead of a 'bass line' he's just doubling the guitar for the most part, and Het's tone is already taking care of the low end there....
The bass is in every song of the album but everything was mixed in the way that you can't hear it most of the time. Because it's very quiet. And you can find it (original, enhanced bass) on youtube.
@Clike666ness Yes, you can almost hear it on To Live Is To Die during the quiet section. Several songs from this album are on Guitar Hero, so the bass master tracks can be extracted from there.
Makes you relies how low the kick drums were in the mix when you hear the snare and as we all know that fact that they killed Jason's Bass tracks altogether. I really like the remix that is on RUclips called "And Justice For Jason", not a bad job having been mixed at home by a fan and yet Lars and James couldn't get it right in a multi million dollar studio.
I think "Justice for Jason" has an added bass played by someone else. My videos have genuine Jason's bass track, you can recognise it by its gritty, rattling sound. All these master tracks can be found on RUclips, by the way, just search for, like, "Blackened bass only".
@@maksphoto78 At the end of the day anyone who does Jason Justice whether it be with Jason's original Bass tracks or someone else played Jason's bass lines over the top of a record and did it Justice is a great thing because we get to hear what we should have heard 30 years ago. I'm a Bass play who played in a very famous Metal band and my Bass was always butched in the mix to enhance the guitars, I only wish someone would do me Justice one day and present my Bass tracks the way I wanted them to be on the albums. Thank you Maksphhoto78, I think were all here for the same reason.
I agree with some of the other comments in that if have use vinyl or have a very nice stereo with a killer subwoofer system you can hear the bass. The problem is Jason plays exactly what James plays so it's almost like a second guitar but an octave down. James even stated that he would turn his back on Jason so Jason would not see what he was playing hoping that he would come up with something on his own and not copy James's rhythm. It wasn't until the Black album that Jason started doing the melodic stuff and standing out a little more on his own.
It's not entirely true, Jason does play some parts on Justice that are different from guitar. Even with the riffs that are the same, it's a different tone, and adds a low end and more agression to the sound.
@@maksphoto78 Yes I know what your talking about. I was just making a general statement that Jason made years back about that process and James even mention that Jason would constantly copy his right hand. Don't wanna have a pissing match but I get your point. Sometimes I should just STFU...
ride and master you can here cliff pretty well, you just have to listen and pull out the what you think is the bass is playing it takes some long listening dont worry i was able to here the bass just barley on this album lmao..
Sometimes I think Jason should of stayed with Metallica, however he went where he thought he wanted to be. Robert Trujillo is a badass bassist. Lars said it himself in their documentary no one has played their songs like he has since cliff.
that's disgracefully dissing Jason , i think Jason is a much tighter bass player , i don't feel Rob has any specific talent to be honest , some youtubers are far better
@@TheTrooperMB I totally agree with you. Jason is the tighest bass player Metallica ever had. For me, his timing and dynamics are one of the best in Metal music.
@MagicMirror981 I actually recorded individual tracks from RUclips, but yes they come from Guitar Hero originally. Search RUclips and you should find the tracks. My computer is broken, so I can't do any more mixes.
Did you get this from Guitar Hero? Me and a friend are looking for this track with only Bass, Drums and Vocals for a performance and we don't know where to find a track can you help?
Yeah the bass is so LOW on this album, even on ride the lightning and master too. I always had a hard time hearing it. Now I finally can. I wonder why they mixed it so low, they probably thought it sounded just fine.
@maksphoto78 No, they turned it low because you can crank your stereo louder without it being distorted. Back in the day they didn't have subwoofers so you had to crank the shit out of your stereo!!
Also you can Cliff's bass well on Disposable Heroes and Leper Messiah. As a bassist, I can hear it almost every time on MoP. Only 'The Thing That Should Not Be' has the most quiet bass (because it's very dull and bassy sounding, not because they lowered it).
You ever noticed Jason is playing with his fingers on the One video. Clearly he always picked but curious none the less (I wonder if Lars made him do it.)
@@gigachad2276 You can hear some rattle and buzz from Jason's bass on the CD, but that's it. Bringing back the low, growly end to the mix really kicks it up and gives it a new level of agression. ruclips.net/video/dWvrMzyzjsg/видео.html
i imagine how hard jason worked on this, and they mute his track
***** If they had muted them we would still have the bass tracks, they are not extracted/filtered from the song. They come from master tapes which Metallica handed to guys at Guitar Hero for the game. But it's true, they are there, I can sometimes hear them in songs like Blackened and even in One. After hearing them isolated you can hear them.
*****
I remember the first time I heard the bass on Justice. It was through a set of Tannoy Studio Monitors. That sold me on those monitors.
***** I have to close my eyes and really strain to hear the bass on JFA.
Masturboy94 Fucking Lars Ulrich man. He’s the one who made the producer do that.
They just lost cliff so it makes sense they'd be weird about the bass I guess.
I just hunt down good remixes with added bass
I have this album on vinyl, and I hear bass guitar.. Not extremely loud but its there
Same here man!
Me too!
I´ve been always capable of hear it
Same. It’s quiet but I’ve heard it faintly at at a few parts
It is buried in the mix, but it can be audible some times.
Jason rocks! He is the bass player of Metallica that I like the most to hear. Great timing, dynamics and tone. His solos are awesome too.
Please re-release this record with the bass turned back on. This kid played his ass off on this record and has a nasty tone. You can tell he spent a lot of time on his sound after he got his dream gig and on his 1st release they mute him. FUCKING HORRIBLE!
Yes seriously. They haven't re-released the album with the bass tracks up in the mix. It's been remastered but still with no bass.
@Brandon S. Hire yea you're right he's there. I get a little frustrated when I know how awesome this album could sound if it was mixed properly. Especially with this gnarly bass tone holding it down. Shit man they might as well have muted him though, because you can't hear what Jason laid.
R. Hernandez
I like this bass tone, and with the bass levels properly restored, you can hear bass just fine. ruclips.net/video/uzMK0_vkStg/видео.html
rahlife79 they are probably gonna re-do this album, but with that stupid fuck robert
...And Justice For Jason!!!
This is what my idea of what Drum and Bass music sounds like
Metallica should really consider re-releasing AJFA with the bass turned up.
mori1993 James said he doesn’t want to, but the album is getting remastered this year. I hope the bass is louder
A remaster doesn´t do much in terms of that. It is basically the same mix with louder volume. A remix will do the trick, but it is very unlikely to happen.
I did not know that there was bass in One
leecooper9911 THIS JOKE WAS DEAD WHEN IT STARTED
They had recorded bass for the whole album but they turned the while volume to 0
@@brickzkrieg I heard that it was Lars idea..;-(
@@leecooper9911 yes it was Lars idea to do because lars' drums sound wasn't clear and then he told to turn volume to 0 of the bass:(
I expected only to hear the drums
damm i miss Jason ! Who hear his New band ?
Me
Firstnup, Jason is 'my' Tallica bassist, so I'm not sniping, BUT...
These isols show why there was no great loss to the way Justice was mixed, instead of a 'bass line' he's just doubling the guitar for the most part, and Het's tone is already taking care of the low end there....
The bass is in every song of the album but everything was mixed in the way that you can't hear it most of the time. Because it's very quiet.
And you can find it (original, enhanced bass) on youtube.
Dat Bass!!! So insane its awsome!
@Clike666ness Yes, you can almost hear it on To Live Is To Die during the quiet section. Several songs from this album are on Guitar Hero, so the bass master tracks can be extracted from there.
Thank you for all your comments! Please listen to the full bass-enhanced track :) ruclips.net/video/dWvrMzyzjsg/видео.html
thos was great . i really enjoying playing my guitar with this bass and drums :)
Bass should of been kept in… some of Jason’s best riffs were off this album
Makes you relies how low the kick drums were in the mix when you hear the snare and as we all know that fact that they killed Jason's Bass tracks altogether. I really like the remix that is on RUclips called "And Justice For Jason", not a bad job having been mixed at home by a fan and yet Lars and James couldn't get it right in a multi million dollar studio.
I think "Justice for Jason" has an added bass played by someone else. My videos have genuine Jason's bass track, you can recognise it by its gritty, rattling sound. All these master tracks can be found on RUclips, by the way, just search for, like, "Blackened bass only".
@@maksphoto78 At the end of the day anyone who does Jason Justice whether it be with Jason's original Bass tracks or someone else played Jason's bass lines over the top of a record and did it Justice is a great thing because we get to hear what we should have heard 30 years ago. I'm a Bass play who played in a very famous Metal band and my Bass was always butched in the mix to enhance the guitars, I only wish someone would do me Justice one day and present my Bass tracks the way I wanted them to be on the albums. Thank you Maksphhoto78, I think were all here for the same reason.
Newstand Effect Had much drive!! So the bass sound with the guitars probaly are the same.. but low
I Imagine that’s because he uses a pick to play bass, just like Hetfield and Hammett did with their guitars
I agree with some of the other comments in that if have use vinyl or have a very nice stereo with a killer subwoofer system you can hear the bass. The problem is Jason plays exactly what James plays so it's almost like a second guitar but an octave down. James even stated that he would turn his back on Jason so Jason would not see what he was playing hoping that he would come up with something on his own and not copy James's rhythm. It wasn't until the Black album that Jason started doing the melodic stuff and standing out a little more on his own.
It's not entirely true, Jason does play some parts on Justice that are different from guitar. Even with the riffs that are the same, it's a different tone, and adds a low end and more agression to the sound.
@@maksphoto78 Yes I know what your talking about. I was just making a general statement that Jason made years back about that process and James even mention that Jason would constantly copy his right hand. Don't wanna have a pissing match but I get your point. Sometimes I should just STFU...
ride and master you can here cliff pretty well, you just have to listen and pull out the what you think is the bass is playing it takes some long listening dont worry i was able to here the bass just barley on this album lmao..
@Driven22 The word is, they mixed it so low on Justice because they were grieving over Cliff's death.
Wow, 30,600 views. Thanks everybody for watching and liking. Check out the official video for "One" on my channel, where the bass has been added too.
Jason has been the most ridiculed rock bassist
Especially by Lars
Sometimes I think Jason should of stayed with Metallica, however he went where he thought he wanted to be. Robert Trujillo is a badass bassist. Lars said it himself in their documentary no one has played their songs like he has since cliff.
that's disgracefully dissing Jason , i think Jason is a much tighter bass player , i don't feel Rob has any specific talent to be honest , some youtubers are far better
@@TheTrooperMB I totally agree with you. Jason is the tighest bass player Metallica ever had. For me, his timing and dynamics are one of the best in Metal music.
Lars is an obnoxius idiot. Probably he still mad because Jason left Metallica.
Most Energetic bassist=Jason Newsted
Most technical Bassist=Robert Trujillo.
Most creative bassist=Cliff Burton
I expected it to be just drums.
Name a more iconic duo, I'll wait.
John Bonham and John Paul Jones
@@jpaulo_ap Not iconic enough.
Cliff and Lars?
@@JNewsted1988 eh maybe I think your missing what he's talking aboot
Me and your mother
@MagicMirror981 I actually recorded individual tracks from RUclips, but yes they come from Guitar Hero originally. Search RUclips and you should find the tracks. My computer is broken, so I can't do any more mixes.
Cliff would have wanted to hear the bass! He was a bassist!
zeppelin1996 No fucking way
If Cliff would have heard this he would have been scared to death by knowing he would get a bus over him...
@1:34
hiccuppp?👀
I was expetcing to hear drums only...
Did you get this from Guitar Hero? Me and a friend are looking for this track with only Bass, Drums and Vocals for a performance and we don't know where to find a track can you help?
Yeah the bass is so LOW on this album, even on ride the lightning and master too. I always had a hard time hearing it. Now I finally can. I wonder why they mixed it so low, they probably thought it sounded just fine.
@maksphoto78 No, they turned it low because you can crank your stereo louder without it being distorted. Back in the day they didn't have subwoofers so you had to crank the shit out of your stereo!!
hearing the bass is anothe rworld
Also you can Cliff's bass well on Disposable Heroes and Leper Messiah. As a bassist, I can hear it almost every time on MoP. Only 'The Thing That Should Not Be' has the most quiet bass (because it's very dull and bassy sounding, not because they lowered it).
me gusta
im gonna play the bass track you hear in the original song... done and i didnt even need a bass :3
Then I'd say life without air is better too
drums and what only ?
Idk is like a guitar but muted and with 4 strings
A guitar that went through puberty
You ever noticed Jason is playing with his fingers on the One video. Clearly he always picked but curious none the less (I wonder if Lars made him do it.)
he played with his fingers for the first part but switched to pick I believe for the machine gun riff
@maksphoto78 or they just wanted a subtle sound...
I'm sure I can hear talking at 3:42 ish.
3:43
03:38
nice.
Fucking Awesome!!
Mó mó Io
i could´nt hear the bass anyway, because i played my own guitar along whith this version :D
I like how nobody knew that the bass existed in this song even though it's audible
Audible?
@@gigachad2276 You can hear some rattle and buzz from Jason's bass on the CD, but that's it. Bringing back the low, growly end to the mix really kicks it up and gives it a new level of agression. ruclips.net/video/dWvrMzyzjsg/видео.html
the bass is not lowered on master because on Orion you can hear the bass in it........
with this album, you mean drums only.....................
I thought it's another midi
It almost sounds like you just stole it from guitar hero 3 When you don't play anything
Because it is, also from Guitar Hero: Metallica. The raw tracks of all the instruments are there and people can hack the game to acquire the tracks.
I hear only drums
the main thing why u cant hear the bass is that jason's tone interfered too much with james's rhythm tone, volume is just a lesser matter
Nope
@@Yinte_Klop_Blunt666 what is it then?
Osama Batayneh Coked up Lars looking for his ‘perfect drum sound’
They really treated Jason like shct
worst mixed album ever, that bass sounds terrible.
whats the point making this , Jason didnt exist on the album
He did, just turned down very very low in the mix.
jason is probably a nice dude but his playing is just boring
A you're the most ignorant comment ive ever seen