Honestly this is a better voice for Satan movie wise. People usually give him this booming voice but I don’t see it, to me he’s quiet and devious and evil so the whisper actually works better.
Yeah, me too. I always imagined Satan would probably talk in snake's tongue🐍 It's logical considering human nature , when the evil-minded of us 'man' manipulate and/or seduce people they usually do that through calmly talking with them in a soothing voice - which really sounds like hisses in your ears - and unfortunately, majority of the time works. *HE* pretty much is a seducer and a manipulator playing mind games to fuck us up in our love life, Faith in our religion, just basically being the Anti-Christ. The depiction of Lucifer in this film is more believable than that of other movies that goes over the top of how the Devil is presented to the audience. I agree with you 💯
I know a lot of people clown on the 'butter' part of the dialogue, but I absolutely love it. Butter is a fattening, rich food, that would be considered decadent/indulgent, on-theme for the Devil. He only offers excessities, enticing her with extravagance, not substance.
It has nothing to do with any of that. Butter was declared a sin worse than lying for the 15th and part of the 16th century. He's literally asking her if she'd like to turn away from the church.
Ok but it does sound goofy that the best he can do is throw in some butter and dresses and it worked. But it is supposed to be what accused witches said the devil promised. And both weren’t as easy to get at the time
Fun fact, part of this scene was improved. When filming the scene Charlie, the goat who played Black Philip, actually spoke and turned into a man. The director was so impressed he kept it in the movie.
Deals with the devil: 2019: "Do you want millions of dollars and fame, to be a rock star, live in a mansion, and have all the comforts in the world?" 1600: "You uhh.... want some butter?"
Stephen Murphy that’s a matter of opinion.. i had ASMR tingles from head to toe listening to his whispers.. those of us who aren’t afraid of the darkness appreciate the seductive beauty of his voice.. 🖤
Stephen Murphy agreed. freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. there are many faiths in practice, and all can peacefully coexist, while practicing freely or choosing not to practice at all. they can coexist without forcing beliefs on one another. and no one religion is paramount or superior to any other, despite what some may believe. peace be with you. 🌑🌒🌓🌕🌗🌘🌑
I've read reviews where people read way too much into what Thomasin meant when she said: "I cannot write my name." That was NOT an expression of hesitation or having second thoughts; she is merely admitting she's unable to read or write, just like most people (especially women) in those days. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.
Well considering New England at the time had one of the highest literacy rates in the world it's not that far fetched to look into. It was illegal not to be literate past a certain age because everyone had to be able to read the Bible. Especially when you consider how thorough Eggers researches for a project. I would say it's deliberate for something, not sure what, could have a deeper meaning or be somewhere Eggers deviated from historical accuracy for the sake of the film
@@freddyM610 they definitely knew how to read because they ask the younger child to read the bible for them. But that doesn't mean they practiced their script/writing themselves. The girl worked all day long in the farm and doesn't seem that she was taught anything other than the bible. Reading the lord's word and having the confidence or skill to write seems different in this context.
One of my favorite parts from this scene is Black Philip speaking in a whisper rather than the stereotypical demonic voice you hear in other horror movies. Not only is it so creepy, it also comes off as persuasive. I personally think Tomasin was in survival mode when she became a witch. She’s all alone in the world with no means of supporting herself, moving back to England or even the colony ( being the only survivor covered in her mom’s blood, she’d be executed on the spot) and is deliriously starving. Plus she was so repressed, she believes this would be her ticket to a good life.
What choice does she really have at this point ? She can't stay where she is, because there is no food. The settlement is five days away through the trackless forest and even if she found her way there, the authorities would probably agree with her family that she is a witch and hang her. Sign the book and get it over with.
true that, the self fulfilling prophecy that played out from when sam first went missing continued to slowly make her come to this point of hey im already being considered a witch by my own family, so whats the harm in becoming one now ya know.
Interesting little fact to go with this scene: the way Charles Manson recruited on of his first female followers was by standing her naked in front of a mirror and whispering to her that she was beautiful
I ran this past a girl recently.. she thought if you delivered it well, it be awesome & original...gotta add the deliciously though.. Nevermind this idiot fatearter.. lol.. probably boring and common AF, with no sense of humour.
This is the creepiest scene in the film, in my opinion! It’s so creepy and eerie how we can hear Satan but not see him, hiding in the darkness. So mysterious and dark
I think it's much creepier how what he offers isn't even that far out there. Her life is so utterly shitty that the prospect of a nice dress and maybe traveling around a bit is enough, good job Puritan values!
@ÒγÓ REGIMÈ I'm with you with most of these, but Thomasin's desires are hardly illusionary. They might be worldly and ultimately harmful to her immortal soul, but suppressing them is all her parents ever did and it wasn't the devil who did them in. And they didn't even practice what they preached to her, because ultimately what they preached was inhuman.
ÒγÓ REGIMÈ I don’t think this movie necessarily set the devil up as the antagonist. Much of the horror in this movie is based on the audience trying to see this from the point of view of a Puritan family. Puritans did not believe that you could get into Heaven by being a good person; God’s salvation might make you a good person, but being a good person did not guarantee salvation. When you consider the Puritan beliefs on sin, redemption, damnation, etc This “New England Folk Tale” essentially becomes a tale of a wicked family getting punished for their sins.
One of the most genius aspects of this film in my opinion is that instead of trying to get you to just feel fear, it gets you to feel the fear that people felt in the 17th century. Making you understand and empathize with a radically different point of view in a different place and time than yours is a rare feat in films, let alone making you understand specific emotions.
This is how the devil should sound like and he does. It’s seductive and soothing. That’s why people ‘sin’. Other films which make him deep voiced and red are just far fetched. The more realistic it is the more creepy because you can never tell where evil really lies.
This is truer to the nature of sin than those blatantly scary depictions of Satan. Sin is tempting, which is why people would do it. I would pose that the stereotypical view of Satan and evil has been a detriment to general morality because people have greatly dissociated pleasure from sin.
Well, if you're Satan and you wants to make people sin, the first thing is not show up with a obviously evil form. Just manipulated them with nice words and having a form that not arise any suspicion.
Exact. If Satan exists, his personified figure is far from the one we see in the movies, he is more of a hidden shadow that deceives vulnerable people, he is no red demon with horns, he is persuasive and seductive, the embodiment of sins
Eve's sin was to eat the fruit, Adams sin was standing idly by and just let it happen. It's a really interesting point of the story, they were together in that moment, knew what they shouldn't do and Eve listened to the serpent - servitude - and Adam didn't even object - laziness. Eve could have crushed the serpents head, Adam could have reminded the serpent who the ruler of the earth was. But no.
@Deep Soul Yes, in essence, the temptation was a Kingly and Queenly one, maybe the serpent wanted to see if they really believed that they were the Rulers of the Earth, made in the image of G-d.
Satan in this film was beautifully done, I love how mysterious and quite he is. Unlike other films portraying him as being angry and with a booming voice. He was also low key kinda hot.. that voice and him walking around just gave such a seductive and intimidating vibe..
It makes sense that the devil would be sexy and seductive. What kind of being would be able to convince almost any human to be sinful? A beautiful, charismatic man with a soothing voice or a creepy red half-goat-person with a voice like he has been chainsmoking since the beginning of creation?
I only saw this film for the first time yesterday. Disturbingly amazing. I absolutely love the detail of this scene. Watch at 1:35 where Black Phillip takes His first step. It's a hoof with His left leg then a human right leg with a spurred boot. Amazing. This is one of the finest scenes in horror history. No stupid jump scares, no stupid CGI. Pure unnervingly brilliance
Egger totally understand how to convey tone. If he would've showed us the goat literally talking, it would've not worked. If he sowed Satan (the dude walking), it would've not worked. This is how you do horror properly.
It's a little like the first scene in Black Swan where the Demon is dancing behind Natalie Portman and she's unsure whether to accept his presence or not.
The most terrifying monsters are the ones you only catch glimpses of or don't even see. Without being able to see what the monster looks like, your imagination runs riot and gives you one terrifying image after another, each one worse than the last, until you're paralyzed with fear.
That hand on the shoulder out of nowhere is so well timed and discreet. Makes it much creepier that it’s not a disfigured hand but something we recognize.
I can't imagine watching this in the cinema with no subtitles. I wouldn't understand a single conversation. But when I watched this with subtitles, it's one of the best horror movies in modern era
Man this could have gone SO WRONG SO EASILY. I was expecting something à la doctor dolittle to happen, with the he-goat moving its mouth ridiculously. But the choice to not show anything, to focus on Thomasin, was pure genius. Less is more. This is unspeakably chilling, it affects me so deeply in an almost primal way. This is why this movie is so good, this is horror done wisely and effectively
@@Heroball299 until you sign your name and realize whatever abomination you just gave your only soul to was not only lying but will see to it that nothing but pain fear and anguish await you for as long as your soul burns after which you’ll be eternally damned and what you sought to have gained was worth less than a penny’s worth of happiness and being content lol this could all be fiction but why play with forces that are demonic hateful and an abomination to all that is life because you’re bored and it may not be true 😆 I feel where this is coming from the answer to your boredom is whatever you’re not tending to in your own life that would give fulfillment instead of a supernatural entity that seeks your ruin lol
I like how they didn't make Satan some monstrous beast. They instead made him seem seductive and handsome. He looks like he's dressed in fine clothes as well. You can see his boot but it also looks like he's wearing a hat when he has his hand on her shoulder. You can also hear his jewellery and trinkets making sounds. That or it's just part of the score to convey an air of magic about him. Either way, great job.
It also adds another layer of authenticity when you see the spurred boot. They actually made a whole costume for him (Google it, it's amazing). He's dressed like an English nobleman at the time, a Cavalier, the sort of people who were the sworn enemies of the Puritans back in England.
It's a great scene - given that previously all the call outs to god by her family were falling on deaf ears. It's all about giving an answer to those who are lost and the devil is the only one giving hope and actual pleasure, not with a shout but a whisper. It's so brilliant as a theme.
Best part of the film. This film is especially resonant for my wife and I, having both grown up in a very orthodox religious community. That shit is so toxic. Join the witches and live deliciously.
Well I don't think the lesson is an endorsement of whatever the devil is selling, but I do think it displays the irony of insular ultraconservative religious communities. They think of themselves alone as God's chosen people, the most morally righteous, and yet religious institutions in many religions are plagued with the worst kinds of people. The catholic church is well known for its pedophiles. NYC's Hasidic community apparently also suffers a similar problem. Those with elder status take advantage of the fact that victimhood comes with deep shame, and thus few are willing to report abuse to the appropriate authorities much less the internal justice system which is run by the perpetrators.
@@atlas42185 The thing is, there's nothing wrong with what the devil is selling here: butter, a pretty dress, dancing naked in the forest. He's not telling her to kill people or do heroin. I think part of the message is indeed to liberate yourself from the bonds of religion.
In my opinion the whole movie builds to this scene, the subtle whispers of unmeasurable evil creep into your ears and strike your heart cold as ice, such a good portrayal of the devil! Outstanding movie!!!
I have only seen this film once and now came back to watch this scene. I remembered the hand on her shoulder but I just now saw man´s face next to her.
It's basically a test of faith: either you stay true to God, die alone of starvation in the wilderness and ascend to the Kingdom of Heaven or you embrace the devil, you live your life in debt to him and you are damned for all eternity. Let us note that the devil, the witches and her own family all made sure she'd be in this terrible position to begin with.
What I loved about the movie is the Thomasin was the only one who was free from any sin. And the devil got the best one to turn, thus defeating god in this instant.
Honestly as a 15 year old girl this movie made me see girlhood in different eyes. I had seen myself and countless other eldest daughters being used as the scapegoat of the family, shamed for our bodies and lusted after by those who should protect us. The unfair treatment, the violence and the guilt laid on our shoulders, the directors and screenwriters were able to portray it I such a way that you could only see it if you stood on a certain place in society. She was accused of being a witch, only to be turned into one by the actions of her accusers. She gained freedom at the cost of her innocence and even if she might be tainted with the mark of the beast forever, she could experience life for herself instead of living for the family like before
@@jam6673 of course not. but it's similar to dany in midsommar. sure they're "free" until their captors have no use of them. they were groomed by their captors, made vulnerable and fragile in order to be taken more easily. same thing.
I've read so many people saying they didn't like how Black Philip was legit, and would've preferred the whole thing was some sort of mental trauma. I so disagree. When he straight up answers her in that voice almost shat myself. Great scene 👌
"wouldst thou like to live deliciously?" "yes" "touch your tongue to mine..." "wait wha?" "your tongue....touch it to mine..." "why?" "to make it all official..." "to, to make what official?" "you know...all of it....nevermind then we're off!"
There's actually a set picture of the actor in costume as the devil, and he's an incredibly handsome Pakistani man in what looks to be a very expensive black nobleman's outfit
Fat Earther pause the video at 2:09, and look at her eyes, follow that level next to her head. Very faintly, you can make the outline of a nose. You have to look hard, because of all the black space behind her.
With your phone on brightest you should be able to make out a dark man moving from left to right, behind her. Right when he asks her to get naked. He kind of looks like a pirate.
What I love most about this that the Devil makes himself appear as unthreatening. He speaks softly. Gently. Does not raise his voice. He offers her indulgence, persuades her, but does not force her hand unless she wishes. And when he changes his form, he does not become a terrible beast. Rather, he merely becomes a man. A stranger, but without a threatening appearance or anything of the like. And when he does make her follow his will, he does so under the form of guidance. The devil is wicked, but he is not stupid. He is a temptor, a deceiver, a source of misguidance and ill decisions of your own making. He allows you to destroy yourself, and only then will he bring about his will upon you.
What an extraordinary scene, beautiful but disturbing: the supernatural cunning of the devil, who is never shown; and the fragility of the protagonist, who falls into the temptation of luxury after a life of misery.
Girl: "So remember how you kind of killed of all my family and made me look like a witch? I want to sell my soul, what could I get for it?" Devil: "Best I can do is butter..."
Somewhere in hell "What did you sell your soul for?" "All the riches of the world, and power over all nations. You?" "Some butter, a pretty dress, and free travel miles for sightseeing around the world" Worst. Deal. Ever.
There's a famous engraving called the knight, death and the devil. This voice is how I imagine that depiction of the devil sounding like. If you like that engraving goya and fuseli are both painters with a similar style.
@@Elias-no9fy Nightmare is my favourite painting by goya, not many paintings can make me feel scared. I'm pretty sure Eggers was referencing the painting called "witches' sabbath" by goya when making the witch. The last scene with black peter really reminds me of that. I love these old works of art that deal with symbolism and esoterica. "The island of death" and "ewe mourns the death of her lamb" both elicit similar feelings as well. It makes me think of schoenberg, rachmaninoff and even the band slint. I think there's no surprise in me saying that my favorite short story is the fall of the house of usher. I love spooky morbid shit.
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Honestly this is a better voice for Satan movie wise. People usually give him this booming voice but I don’t see it, to me he’s quiet and devious and evil so the whisper actually works better.
Collin Martin and the snake literally whispers. Plus it would be goofy as hell if he had a booming voice lol
Amina imagine if he started to speak like Satan does in South Park when he puts on his great booming Satan voice
Yeah, me too. I always imagined Satan would probably talk in snake's tongue🐍 It's logical considering human nature , when the evil-minded of us 'man' manipulate and/or seduce people they usually do that through calmly talking with them in a soothing voice - which really sounds like hisses in your ears - and unfortunately, majority of the time works. *HE* pretty much is a seducer and a manipulator playing mind games to fuck us up in our love life, Faith in our religion, just basically being the Anti-Christ. The depiction of Lucifer in this film is more believable than that of other movies that goes over the top of how the Devil is presented to the audience. I agree with you 💯
Collin Martin, you do realize the word "god" is the word "good" without the o, and the word "devil" is the word "evil" with an added d?
True shit
"Wouldst thou like to live deliciously?"
Let's face it, the best pickup line known to man.
and goats
It's very subjective and yet a very tempting idea... what would it mean to live deliciously to me? hmm
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@@vincecomuna i mean, its pretty self explanatory
And pairs nicely with "I will guide thy hand."
I know a lot of people clown on the 'butter' part of the dialogue, but I absolutely love it. Butter is a fattening, rich food, that would be considered decadent/indulgent, on-theme for the Devil. He only offers excessities, enticing her with extravagance, not substance.
Ad if self-sacrifice and divinity are any better
It has nothing to do with any of that. Butter was declared a sin worse than lying for the 15th and part of the 16th century. He's literally asking her if she'd like to turn away from the church.
yeah that's how I always saw it
Ok but it does sound goofy that the best he can do is throw in some butter and dresses and it worked. But it is supposed to be what accused witches said the devil promised. And both weren’t as easy to get at the time
They had accused her so much of being a witch that she decided she’d become the very thing they feared in her for so long.
Its entirely their fault.
Just like those guys out there who finally decide to cheat on their girlfriends after being accused of it for so long 😄
CryLittleSister i don’t see a lie here 😂
@@DavidVasquez-lb9xv What do you mean a lie?
CryLittleSister I’m saying you’re right. You’re not lying
Fun fact, part of this scene was improved. When filming the scene Charlie, the goat who played Black Philip, actually spoke and turned into a man. The director was so impressed he kept it in the movie.
Godzilla00X lmao
😂 typical fun fact 😇
Source?
@@dinon9920 Black Phillip himself
Wow, that's cool. I too once saw a dog become a werewolf, but idk how... But now, I am it's pet
Deals with the devil:
2019: "Do you want millions of dollars and fame, to be a rock star, live in a mansion, and have all the comforts in the world?"
1600: "You uhh.... want some butter?"
5000BC: "How about an apple?"
😂
@Stephen Murphy If snakes talk to you either you're Harry Potter or you need to get back on your meds.
@Stephen Murphy Meds, baby. Take your meds.
Back in the 1600s, butter was hard to come by/make, so naturally it became a luxury item.
butter was really a big deal back then
Now it's 89 cents for four sticks, no deal with Satan required. We have it easy!
James Hendricks lmaoooo
@@jameshendricks947 why would you want butter without satan though
Kuya Rick Kelley no idea mate
@John Smith I would like the taste of real butter.
ASMR from hell
haha
Stephen Murphy that’s a matter of opinion..
i had ASMR tingles from head to toe listening to his whispers..
those of us who aren’t afraid of the darkness appreciate the seductive beauty of his voice.. 🖤
Stephen Murphy
agreed.
freedom of religion also means freedom from religion.
there are many faiths in practice, and all can peacefully coexist, while practicing freely or choosing not to practice at all.
they can coexist without forcing beliefs on one another.
and no one religion is paramount or superior to any other, despite what some may believe.
peace be with you.
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We went from differences in ASMR preference to differences in Religion..... The. Fuck.
innocentdemon87 right!! it’s all cool tho, no animosity, only conversation 😌
Army recruiters be like:
Wouldst thou like to afford college tuition
Wouldst thou enjoy a freeth Camaro or Charger
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And a whole buncha weed!!!
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I've read reviews where people read way too much into what Thomasin meant when she said: "I cannot write my name." That was NOT an expression of hesitation or having second thoughts; she is merely admitting she's unable to read or write, just like most people (especially women) in those days. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.
Exactly. Dead simple
Well considering New England at the time had one of the highest literacy rates in the world it's not that far fetched to look into. It was illegal not to be literate past a certain age because everyone had to be able to read the Bible.
Especially when you consider how thorough Eggers researches for a project. I would say it's deliberate for something, not sure what, could have a deeper meaning or be somewhere Eggers deviated from historical accuracy for the sake of the film
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@@freddyM610 they definitely knew how to read because they ask the younger child to read the bible for them. But that doesn't mean they practiced their script/writing themselves. The girl worked all day long in the farm and doesn't seem that she was taught anything other than the bible. Reading the lord's word and having the confidence or skill to write seems different in this context.
One of my favorite parts from this scene is Black Philip speaking in a whisper rather than the stereotypical demonic voice you hear in other horror movies. Not only is it so creepy, it also comes off as persuasive.
I personally think Tomasin was in survival mode when she became a witch. She’s all alone in the world with no means of supporting herself, moving back to England or even the colony ( being the only survivor covered in her mom’s blood, she’d be executed on the spot) and is deliriously starving. Plus she was so repressed, she believes this would be her ticket to a good life.
Historically speaking, It is a ticket to 'the good life''.
What choice does she really have at this point ? She can't stay where she is, because there is no food. The settlement is five days away through the trackless forest and even if she found her way there, the authorities would probably agree with her family that she is a witch and hang her. Sign the book and get it over with.
FD up he and his witches did all that on purpose.
true that, the self fulfilling prophecy that played out from when sam first went missing continued to slowly make her come to this point of hey im already being considered a witch by my own family, so whats the harm in becoming one now ya know.
Interesting little fact to go with this scene: the way Charles Manson recruited on of his first female followers was by standing her naked in front of a mirror and whispering to her that she was beautiful
This is word for word how I pick up women at bars. Word for word.
worth giving it a shot! delivery is everything.
I ran this past a girl recently.. she thought if you delivered it well, it be awesome & original...gotta add the deliciously though.. Nevermind this idiot fatearter.. lol.. probably boring and common AF, with no sense of humour.
@@stephenblackcapecrescent3078 someones butthurt
Wouldst thou like to come back to my place?
Dude, I'm asexual and I'd still sit up and take notice if a guy said that to me - if he got the voice right. >:D
This is the creepiest scene in the film, in my opinion! It’s so creepy and eerie how we can hear Satan but not see him, hiding in the darkness. So mysterious and dark
I think it's much creepier how what he offers isn't even that far out there. Her life is so utterly shitty that the prospect of a nice dress and maybe traveling around a bit is enough, good job Puritan values!
@ÒγÓ REGIMÈ I'm with you with most of these, but Thomasin's desires are hardly illusionary. They might be worldly and ultimately harmful to her immortal soul, but suppressing them is all her parents ever did and it wasn't the devil who did them in. And they didn't even practice what they preached to her, because ultimately what they preached was inhuman.
When he says he will guide thou hand you can see him on her right side lol it’s really hard to see but he’s there.
ÒγÓ REGIMÈ I don’t think this movie necessarily set the devil up as the antagonist. Much of the horror in this movie is based on the audience trying to see this from the point of view of a Puritan family. Puritans did not believe that you could get into Heaven by being a good person; God’s salvation might make you a good person, but being a good person did not guarantee salvation. When you consider the Puritan beliefs on sin, redemption, damnation, etc This “New England Folk Tale” essentially becomes a tale of a wicked family getting punished for their sins.
@@whoishe2527 I think we see his hand, in a black glove, on her shoulder.
Tbh if someone offered me butter rn in this day and age I'd be pretty swayed to remove my shift
omg relatable
A pretty dress? Well, sign me up!
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Only if its Irish butter. Gimme dat Kerry Gold Black Philip!
Science Fiction Double Feature Kerry gold is good shit
One of the most genius aspects of this film in my opinion is that instead of trying to get you to just feel fear, it gets you to feel the fear that people felt in the 17th century. Making you understand and empathize with a radically different point of view in a different place and time than yours is a rare feat in films, let alone making you understand specific emotions.
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This is how the devil should sound like and he does. It’s seductive and soothing. That’s why people ‘sin’. Other films which make him deep voiced and red are just far fetched. The more realistic it is the more creepy because you can never tell where evil really lies.
This is truer to the nature of sin than those blatantly scary depictions of Satan. Sin is tempting, which is why people would do it. I would pose that the stereotypical view of Satan and evil has been a detriment to general morality because people have greatly dissociated pleasure from sin.
Also he has great deals on dairy I’m sure a lot of people became satanist for that daily butter delivery
Well, if you're Satan and you wants to make people sin, the first thing is not show up with a obviously evil form. Just manipulated them with nice words and having a form that not arise any suspicion.
Exact. If Satan exists, his personified figure is far from the one we see in the movies, he is more of a hidden shadow that deceives vulnerable people, he is no red demon with horns, he is persuasive and seductive, the embodiment of sins
@@georgeofhamilton sin doesn't exist.
I like the hiss in his voice, it reminds of how a snake led Adam and Eve to their downfall
It also reminds me of an inversion of 1 Kings 19:11-13
Like she would have known that verse so Satan imitated God's voice.
Zoey Munster was it their downfall or their realization ?
You mean eve. It was just her.
Eve's sin was to eat the fruit, Adams sin was standing idly by and just let it happen.
It's a really interesting point of the story, they were together in that moment, knew what they shouldn't do and Eve listened to the serpent - servitude - and Adam didn't even object - laziness.
Eve could have crushed the serpents head, Adam could have reminded the serpent who the ruler of the earth was. But no.
@Deep Soul Yes, in essence, the temptation was a Kingly and Queenly one, maybe the serpent wanted to see if they really believed that they were the Rulers of the Earth, made in the image of G-d.
Satan in this film was beautifully done, I love how mysterious and quite he is. Unlike other films portraying him as being angry and with a booming voice. He was also low key kinda hot.. that voice and him walking around just gave such a seductive and intimidating vibe..
he a pimp
@@naylik2562 straight up
It makes sense that the devil would be sexy and seductive. What kind of being would be able to convince almost any human to be sinful? A beautiful, charismatic man with a soothing voice or a creepy red half-goat-person with a voice like he has been chainsmoking since the beginning of creation?
#simpingforsatan
Don't you mean quiet?
I only saw this film for the first time yesterday. Disturbingly amazing. I absolutely love the detail of this scene. Watch at 1:35 where Black Phillip takes His first step. It's a hoof with His left leg then a human right leg with a spurred boot. Amazing. This is one of the finest scenes in horror history. No stupid jump scares, no stupid CGI. Pure unnervingly brilliance
Damn he was all up on her neck to get that signature 🔥😭🖤
This is what’s its like when you sign them student loan documents 😢
Very like, but that thee shant livith deliciously thereafter. Thou shalt workest not unlikest a draft horse for no cud.
"I will guide thy hand" lol
Egger totally understand how to convey tone.
If he would've showed us the goat literally talking, it would've not worked. If he sowed Satan (the dude walking), it would've not worked.
This is how you do horror properly.
If he showed the goat talking the audience would just burst into laughter.
@@LucDutra92 "Chaos Reigns" :P
It's a little like the first scene in Black Swan where the Demon is dancing behind Natalie Portman and she's unsure whether to accept his presence or not.
What you don't see is often scarier than what you do since your subconscious fills in the gaps with whatever version of it would scare you the most
A genuinely terrifying film! Feels so authentic and realistic. The devil is barely seen but he’s so frightening!
The most terrifying monsters are the ones you only catch glimpses of or don't even see. Without being able to see what the monster looks like, your imagination runs riot and gives you one terrifying image after another, each one worse than the last, until you're paralyzed with fear.
Maureen Lycaon you sir or ma’am, hit the bullseye!!!
Satan is not frightening. He's incredible, just and wise beyond words.
Andrew Guerra agree with 100 percent.
Maureen Lycaon you said it perfectly here.
That hand on the shoulder out of nowhere is so well timed and discreet. Makes it much creepier that it’s not a disfigured hand but something we recognize.
Whispers spookily: If you guide her hand in signing the boooook, it's not a legally binding contraaaaact...
Stranded73 ikr
lol i don't think satan follows the rules of law that man has created...
@@DECENTcrew Saul Goodman: And that's where you're wrong
Yes but, well, she said that she doesn't know how to write sooooo......
she doesn't know how to write tho so maybe in such cases only her permission is required
The devil discovers asmr
SapphireFox13 or how about invents it 😉
I loved the dialogue in this movie. Its just old english but so poetic in its delivery. Reminded me of the voice acting in the Dark Souls games.
It reminded me of The Witcher
You should check out Darkest Dungeon & Sunless Sea/Skies
It is absolutely not old English
@@Andrei_Suckoffsky Ok dork.
@@Oh_its_Mike it's early modern English. Old English is like Beowulf.
Damn imagine selling your soul just to taste butter
That be Puritan society for you.
you get a pretty dress too :)
Damn, imagine selling your soul for an iPhone.
I'd negotiate for bacon as well..
She's nothing left in her life at this moment.
Anyone in her place would choose the same thing.
"I will guide thy hand." 🤘
🖕
🤘
🤟🏼
It is pretty metal when he says that..
🤘
I can't imagine watching this in the cinema with no subtitles. I wouldn't understand a single conversation. But when I watched this with subtitles, it's one of the best horror movies in modern era
Huh? 'cause OLD English speak! Or the "Light bringer" of NO Gender!?
@@dallesamllhals9161 what?
@@DespicableBunny Oh so you CAN'T read?
Man this could have gone SO WRONG SO EASILY. I was expecting something à la doctor dolittle to happen, with the he-goat moving its mouth ridiculously. But the choice to not show anything, to focus on Thomasin, was pure genius. Less is more. This is unspeakably chilling, it affects me so deeply in an almost primal way. This is why this movie is so good, this is horror done wisely and effectively
Imagine you wake up at 3am and in the far corner of your room you hear, *wouldst thou like the taste of butter* 😱
At least it would be something interesting. I;m so fking bored
@@Heroball299😂😂😂
@@Heroball299 until you sign your name and realize whatever abomination you just gave your only soul to was not only lying but will see to it that nothing but pain fear and anguish await you for as long as your soul burns after which you’ll be eternally damned and what you sought to have gained was worth less than a penny’s worth of happiness and being content lol this could all be fiction but why play with forces that are demonic hateful and an abomination to all that is life because you’re bored and it may not be true 😆 I feel where this is coming from the answer to your boredom is whatever you’re not tending to in your own life that would give fulfillment instead of a supernatural entity that seeks your ruin lol
@@Nah-ql6cv omg... chill...
I like how they didn't make Satan some monstrous beast. They instead made him seem seductive and handsome. He looks like he's dressed in fine clothes as well. You can see his boot but it also looks like he's wearing a hat when he has his hand on her shoulder. You can also hear his jewellery and trinkets making sounds. That or it's just part of the score to convey an air of magic about him. Either way, great job.
That's how the Devil actually is. Rural people know this.
@@nikoguarrolol "actually"
It also adds another layer of authenticity when you see the spurred boot. They actually made a whole costume for him (Google it, it's amazing). He's dressed like an English nobleman at the time, a Cavalier, the sort of people who were the sworn enemies of the Puritans back in England.
I removed my shift before watching this clip.
fu yu i am shiftless right now
If the witch happened today...
The devil: “you want live deliciously?”
Me: “does that include paying off student loans?”
I dunno about any of you guys but i sure as hell would like to live deliciously!
Sign me up
I just ate some butter
Go to a cross roads at midnight
@@jaymoose9313 Or stand under a mango tree at 3 a.m.
not at the cost of burning in hell for all eternity haha i’ll live deliciously is Heaven
I can’t describe how much I love this scene
She is absolutely beautiful
Stunningly pretty
Let's be honest, most of us would like to live deliciously.
His voice is so soothing. He would’ve tempted me to do anything.
"I cannot write my name."
"I'll guide thy hand."
The bottom of Satans shoes are red?Damn Satan rocking some Louis Vuitton boots.
Amanda I think you mean Louboutin
@@clarissa8642 yeah...
other way round.
Walk a mile in these louboutins
@@adelmokrane1929 LMAOO
I'm still shocked how good her accent is. Normally it's extremely difficult for Americans to do any kind of northern English accent
I’m sure she’s British so she’s got the English accent covered
Her accent isn't appropriate for the period. She wouldn't be dropping her R's if it was accurate.
she is not British, she is from Argentina
Miriam A no she’s American British, she has an American accent not a British one.
@@poppymai5284 she is from Argentina...
Black Phillip: Should I tell her she didn’t have to walk through the woods naked?
Other witches: NOPE!
I like how a hoof walks in view of the camera and then a man's foot appears, no need for CGI, just a cleaver trick...
This is the best foreplay ever
This is probably one of my favorite movie scenes ever. I have shivers down my spine every time I see it.
Am I the only one that love his voice? Like 😳
It's a great scene - given that previously all the call outs to god by her family were falling on deaf ears. It's all about giving an answer to those who are lost and the devil is the only one giving hope and actual pleasure, not with a shout but a whisper. It's so brilliant as a theme.
Best part of the film. This film is especially resonant for my wife and I, having both grown up in a very orthodox religious community. That shit is so toxic. Join the witches and live deliciously.
and fly in the air naked n shit
Well I don't think the lesson is an endorsement of whatever the devil is selling, but I do think it displays the irony of insular ultraconservative religious communities. They think of themselves alone as God's chosen people, the most morally righteous, and yet religious institutions in many religions are plagued with the worst kinds of people. The catholic church is well known for its pedophiles. NYC's Hasidic community apparently also suffers a similar problem. Those with elder status take advantage of the fact that victimhood comes with deep shame, and thus few are willing to report abuse to the appropriate authorities much less the internal justice system which is run by the perpetrators.
@@atlas42185 The thing is, there's nothing wrong with what the devil is selling here: butter, a pretty dress, dancing naked in the forest. He's not telling her to kill people or do heroin. I think part of the message is indeed to liberate yourself from the bonds of religion.
@The Last Danite Most witches don't do that, and religion has driven waaaaaay more innocent people to insanity.
@The Last Danite Even in the film. Only one witch stole and killed a baby. And I think all of their insanity was from religion, not the witches.
Not gonna lie... he had me already at "see the world"
He had me at "butter" man ⚰️⚰️⚰️
This is the best ending to a movie I've seen in a long time!
Loved this movie. This scene was amazing. Gave me goose bumps.
I would love to live deliciously. My favorite quote now.
Black Phillip: Wouldst thou like to live deliciously?
Look man, I just want an RTX 3080
RTX 4090 now
Okay. When he actually whispered it make a cold come up through my spine.
I saw this as almost a happy ending, which is completely crazy. That's why I love this movie
The devil raped her
Creepy as hell.... This movie was great.
In my opinion the whole movie builds to this scene, the subtle whispers of unmeasurable evil creep into your ears and strike your heart cold as ice, such a good portrayal of the devil! Outstanding movie!!!
WHY IS HIS VOICE SO GOERGEOUSSSS
I have only seen this film once and now came back to watch this scene. I remembered the hand on her shoulder but I just now saw man´s face next to her.
I kind of want butter now.
kevin amaral you had butter not mwahaha.
How would you like that butter, sir? With or without Satan? ;-)
Remove thy shift
It's basically a test of faith: either you stay true to God, die alone of starvation in the wilderness and ascend to the Kingdom of Heaven or you embrace the devil, you live your life in debt to him and you are damned for all eternity. Let us note that the devil, the witches and her own family all made sure she'd be in this terrible position to begin with.
She is tested as Job was and fails.
i don’t care what anyone says, ‘wouldst thou like to live deliciously?’ is such a sexy line
This scene, this movie, this EVERYTHING is just chefs kiss
This is one of the best ASMR I've heard.
He actually does have an ASMR channel Black Phillip ASMR.
Black Phillip: what do you want?
Anya Taylor: LA EMPANADAS!
te lo resumo asi nomas reference?
Devil: Wouldst thou like to live deliciously?
Me: Are you calling me fat Satan?
When artists achieve evading the stereotypes of they art, they make superb pieces.
What I loved about the movie is the Thomasin was the only one who was free from any sin. And the devil got the best one to turn, thus defeating god in this instant.
ok but the little bit of Black Phillip we see??? Lemme get a taste of that butter sir damn
as a northern horror fan i love hearing such familiar accents in such an incredible horror film
After the deal: "I can't believe it's not butter!! You... You LIED to me??!! She pulls of the mask and its not Fabio after all.
Honestly as a 15 year old girl this movie made me see girlhood in different eyes. I had seen myself and countless other eldest daughters being used as the scapegoat of the family, shamed for our bodies and lusted after by those who should protect us. The unfair treatment, the violence and the guilt laid on our shoulders, the directors and screenwriters were able to portray it I such a way that you could only see it if you stood on a certain place in society. She was accused of being a witch, only to be turned into one by the actions of her accusers. She gained freedom at the cost of her innocence and even if she might be tainted with the mark of the beast forever, she could experience life for herself instead of living for the family like before
Killing babies is not ok
@@jam6673 of course not.
but it's similar to dany in midsommar. sure they're "free" until their captors have no use of them.
they were groomed by their captors, made vulnerable and fragile in order to be taken more easily.
same thing.
@@jam6673 Unless they're not born. Then it's OK.
@@jam6673thats what you got from this?
If this were in todays era:
"Wouldst thou like the newest gaming console? A new iPhone?"
Wouldst thou like a house to own and land with it? Would thou like a sizable pension? Would thou like, noooo debt??
North of England like.. Wouldst thou like a deep fried Mars Bar pet?
how about a Succubus?
satan: that's lilith's department
1800s devil: Wouldst thou like the taste of butter?
1900s devil: Wouldst thou like the taste of bacon?
2000s devil: *gets eaten*
Genius. Absolute Genius.
I felt genuine terror through this scene on my first watch. It is still so haunting and i´ve watched a million times already.
I f*cking love this movie...
So do i...
This is how my cat talks to me.
That has to be one of the most beautiful women there is.
I've read so many people saying they didn't like how Black Philip was legit, and would've preferred the whole thing was some sort of mental trauma. I so disagree. When he straight up answers her in that voice almost shat myself. Great scene 👌
"wouldst thou like to live deliciously?"
"yes"
"touch your tongue to mine..."
"wait wha?"
"your tongue....touch it to mine..."
"why?"
"to make it all official..."
"to, to make what official?"
"you know...all of it....nevermind then we're off!"
drfunk1986 I understood that reference!
Judging from that hoof, he's off to retrieve his digits.
That voice ..those looks....sign me the fuck up 😂😂😂😂
Im glad they had the devil whisper , its more to character .
This is great because you have no idea what the devil actually looks like, you can only imagine what abomination form it takes
There's actually a set picture of the actor in costume as the devil, and he's an incredibly handsome Pakistani man in what looks to be a very expensive black nobleman's outfit
@@swiftlymurmurs Interesting Ill have to check that out
It's supossed to look like a spanish soldier
It’s terrifying because you can almost see his face if you focus hard enough behind her shoulder. You can make out the outline of a nose.
Fat Earther pause the video at 2:09, and look at her eyes, follow that level next to her head. Very faintly, you can make the outline of a nose. You have to look hard, because of all the black space behind her.
ChimeraUKG The face is totally there! I knew I wasn’t losing it 😂
With your phone on brightest you should be able to make out a dark man moving from left to right, behind her. Right when he asks her to get naked.
He kind of looks like a pirate.
@@Daniel-wx4jm Or you could google Daniel Malik
Damn, satan's got a fancy mustache.
Her accent is so good in this.
It's got personality and presence, but it's also so rustic and limited.
Absolutely CHILLING.
I know this is supposed to be creepy but Black Phillip’s voice is so ASMR and is relaxing
Absolutely agree
Nobody:
Marine recruiters: Hey big dawg...
What I love most about this that the Devil makes himself appear as unthreatening.
He speaks softly. Gently. Does not raise his voice.
He offers her indulgence, persuades her, but does not force her hand unless she wishes.
And when he changes his form, he does not become a terrible beast. Rather, he merely becomes a man. A stranger, but without a threatening appearance or anything of the like.
And when he does make her follow his will, he does so under the form of guidance.
The devil is wicked, but he is not stupid. He is a temptor, a deceiver, a source of misguidance and ill decisions of your own making.
He allows you to destroy yourself, and only then will he bring about his will upon you.
"The witch" (2015) is one of the best horror movies ever made! This is classic already! Hello from Athens Greece!
What an extraordinary scene, beautiful but disturbing: the supernatural cunning of the devil, who is never shown; and the fragility of the protagonist, who falls into the temptation of luxury after a life of misery.
we can see a bit of his face if you look closely with the brightener up, it has a bit of a red glow. this scene is sooo good!
I absolutely love how they did the voice
Girl: "So remember how you kind of killed of all my family and made me look like a witch? I want to sell my soul, what could I get for it?"
Devil: "Best I can do is butter..."
Somewhere in hell
"What did you sell your soul for?"
"All the riches of the world, and power over all nations. You?"
"Some butter, a pretty dress, and free travel miles for sightseeing around the world"
Worst. Deal. Ever.
There's a famous engraving called the knight, death and the devil. This voice is how I imagine that depiction of the devil sounding like.
If you like that engraving goya and fuseli are both painters with a similar style.
Looking at some Henry Fuseli paintings surely brings this movie to mind, maybe Eggers was inspired by his artistic style?
@@Elias-no9fy Nightmare is my favourite painting by goya, not many paintings can make me feel scared.
I'm pretty sure Eggers was referencing the painting called "witches' sabbath" by goya when making the witch. The last scene with black peter really reminds me of that.
I love these old works of art that deal with symbolism and esoterica. "The island of death" and "ewe mourns the death of her lamb" both elicit similar feelings as well. It makes me think of schoenberg, rachmaninoff and even the band slint. I think there's no surprise in me saying that my favorite short story is the fall of the house of usher. I love spooky morbid shit.
Para mí es la mejor película de BRUJAS que he visto.
No es bruja, ella es la buena, los de Satán son los de la familia.
Best voice and depiction of Satan that I have ever experienced in my entire life.