Spray Benjamin Moore Advance with Harbor Freight "Purple" HVLP Spray Gun

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • Benjamin Moore is a notoriously thick, water-based alkyd. Many of the cheaper HVLP spray guns, whether turbine or compressor-based seem to have trouble spraying it and the tips are often cited as being too narrow. I used a 5/64" drill bit and enlarged the center hole from the factory-sized 1.4mm to something closer to 2mm. It seems to have worked enough for my home use. Please leave comments, and especially suggestions, for upgraded the gun or technique. Thanks for watching.

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  • @ArthurBrinkman-c5z
    @ArthurBrinkman-c5z 4 года назад +12

    I just used the same gun to paint my 36ft Gulf Stream motorhome and got excellent results useing a one stage $100 a gallon eBay paint and $100 per gallon eBay primer. Take the gun out of the box disassemble it clean it with lacquer thinner to get rid of the machine oil before using it. I plan on using it again for some other projects, painting the shed etc. It's a very user friendly little gun.

  • @jumpinjojo
    @jumpinjojo 3 года назад +18

    I just sprayed some kitchen cabinet doors using my HF purple gun with a 1.4 tip. I thinned the Benjamin Moore Advanced with a bit of warm water to get the desired consistency. Used 25psi at the gun. Flowed out well and laid nicely. The gun comes with a 1.8 tip, as well.

    • @timothyarnold777
      @timothyarnold777 3 года назад +9

      I use a LVLP spray gun with a 1.8 tip and get the same results with 22psi at the gun with 25% water. Two light coats of paint, sand in between with a green washing up pad, gives factory finish results.

    • @gazsto9510
      @gazsto9510 2 года назад

      How much water? 20%? using the smaller tip usually you need to thinned much more, with a 1.8mm you can reduce 5-10% and usually depends on humidity. I been using both the 1.4mm and a 1.7mm tip and get very good results, and depends on the actual weather and humidity. Floetrol is very good to extend the drying time and especially good in warmer weather.

    • @BirdDog.
      @BirdDog. Год назад +1

      @@gazsto9510 I used the 1.4 with about 15% water and it sprays just fine. I do need a few extra passes to get my desired coverage

  • @G.I.JeffsWorkbench
    @G.I.JeffsWorkbench 2 месяца назад

    Very helpful video. A few paint spraying tips: clean all parts of a new gun w/ lacquer thinner (removes the factory protective coating on components); mix in a capful of Floetrol when you start the gallon & another capful when the gallon is half empty, thin the paint down - in the gun reservoir (not the can) - w/ warm water at least 10% (increase up to 29%, as needed), in addition to a pressure gauge, you should also get an inline moisture filter to keep water than condenses inside your compresser from further diluting water based paint. The moisture filter mounts on the hose between the compressor and the in line air pressure gauge. You mentioned straining paint. It’s a must do. For a low-priced gun, this Harbor Freight tool produces good results.

  • @buddygray1566
    @buddygray1566 4 года назад +22

    Ive been using advanced for years doing cabinets, love the finishes. Use a 2.0 tip keep tabs on the pressure and your good. The only thing I really dont like is the drying time before the second coat. 99 percent of the time two coats is all thats needed. I think if you slow your arm motion down a bit you will get the coverage you want.

    • @bobbuilder118
      @bobbuilder118 2 года назад

      Do you think it's important to wait 16 hours for the second coat? I'm using a Sata gun

    • @myopinion6328
      @myopinion6328 2 года назад

      Gun works great with 1.4 tip. I sprayed Advance Benjamin Moore paint...cabinets and doors look great. Dont need a 2.0 tip

    • @Stevesbe
      @Stevesbe Год назад

      Use their command paint it drys fast

    • @msk3905
      @msk3905 10 месяцев назад

      I am going to try to spray this paint with a 1.8mm tip hope it works

  • @garylangley4502
    @garylangley4502 5 лет назад +20

    Just as a rule of thumb, I thin paints to spray them. The only exception is the paints that are already thinned for spraying.

    • @aftereverett
      @aftereverett 4 года назад

      How do you thin them with what? Mineral spirits?

    • @soldadojose411
      @soldadojose411 3 года назад +1

      @@aftereverett water

    • @jonmike316
      @jonmike316 3 года назад

      How much water to thin them? Any general rule?

    • @creativemario101
      @creativemario101 3 года назад +2

      @@jonmike316 add 5% and test, add another 5% and test. That way you'll find the best results. Let me know

    • @timothyarnold777
      @timothyarnold777 3 года назад +3

      @@jonmike316 10% maximum as a rule because it can alter the structure of the paint. I spray a similar paint thinned down by 25%. The reason I thin it down so much is that I want a matt finish which isn't available in the type of paint that I use. The more water used the more dull the paint becomes. Hope this helps you.

  • @gilbertrobles1374
    @gilbertrobles1374 5 лет назад +10

    Excellent tutorial. I bought one of these guns and tried using oil based paint with it. I ruined it bcuz I didn't know what I was doing. You video has given me motivation to give the gun model another chance.
    ( gonna have to buy another one.)
    Thanks for taking time to explain.
    I learned of few things today.
    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @ScottTheis
    @ScottTheis 2 года назад +1

    Same. Thanks for posting.

  • @TSGilly
    @TSGilly 4 года назад +5

    I just sprayed a whole house of interior trim and doors. The instructions for the gun says to thin according to the paint can instructions for spraying. I used enamel trim paint and it said to thin no more than 8 ounces water per gallon. I ended up using 16 and it worked fine. I used a fairly small portable compressor I normally use for nail guns and it held up fine. With the lower pressure the compressor does well. It did run a lot but caught up when I stopped to move, refill cup etc. I was able to get more volume of paint coming out by turning down the air flow on the left side of the gun to almost nothing. I used the regulator on the compressor at 70 psi. While spraying the pressure would drop to 40. Next time I will use a regulator at the gun so I can use the compressor at 110 psi and the pressure will last longer. This will be my go to gun for inside painting now.

    • @aaronreed5754
      @aaronreed5754 4 года назад

      Hey, so im bout to do the same and paint the trim on the outside of the house. Which paint would you recommend? And I think im gonna try your settings, I'm a amateur.. lol

    • @TSGilly
      @TSGilly 4 года назад +1

      @@aaronreed5754 exterior trim paint. Just fiddle with the different knob settings until you get the desired result.

    • @JC-ov5pt
      @JC-ov5pt 4 года назад

      Hi, just to clarify...you would set the regulator by the gun at 110? Would this result to very low pressure like you said - to almost nothing. I read pressure at the air cap should be around 10 psi. Also, what pressure should I set regulator by compressor, or does the one by the gun override it. I was planning on buying a homeright sprayer to paint kitchen cabinets but may go with Hf spray gun instead. Thanks.

    • @JC-ov5pt
      @JC-ov5pt 4 года назад

      Oh, I just read that you turned down the air flow to almost nothing, so is that totally separate on setting the pressure at 110? If so, please explain how setting pressure at 110 near gun helps. Thanks.

    • @TSGilly
      @TSGilly 4 года назад

      @@JC-ov5pt It just gives you high pressure up to the gun and more to use at lower pressure. I also used a reserve air tank and gives you more reserve at the higher pressure.

  • @terryegan5113
    @terryegan5113 5 лет назад +9

    The famous HF "Purple Gun"! Is a pretty good gun, not only for the money, but as a gun in it's own right. I've shot a Mod. A Town Sedan with mine and a couple of fenders and hoods. Pretty Good! I drilled my nozzle out and I think it was it was around the same size and the small ports to .025. The gun worked fine. Also, experiment with a little higher pressure. I was advised to use the higher pressure by a professional painter. Read the back of the can for spraying directions, most have separate instructions for spraying. When you pour the can, make sure you don't paint the directions, pour so it runs down the front.
    Terry

    • @terryegan5113
      @terryegan5113 4 года назад

      Where are you? Canada? I use the $9.95 one. I have an ancient 2 cyl. upright 60-80 gal, Compressor that I have backed the pressure down to 100lbs because I'm so afraid of it. I can't say what the CFM is, but it has kept up with whatever tool I use. I have heard for tools such as this, you need 10 CFM consistently . I maintain that the purple gun from Harbor Freight is one of the true bargains around. Try to make it and sell it for $10 and have it work reasonable well. And I hate HF. Buying crap from HF is buying bullets for the chinese army. BUT they have these products heavily subsidized. so the loss is theirs.
      Terry

    • @terryegan5113
      @terryegan5113 4 года назад

      Additionally, I have heard from guys who know a lot more about spraying than I do, Use over 40 lbs. PSI. The gun likes pressure!
      Terry

    • @duaneafields
      @duaneafields 4 года назад +2

      Use a silicone pour lid, or do what I do, use a dollar store funnel and pour whole gallon of expensive paint in an empty clean water or milk jug. makes for good storage and fills the hvlp cannisters quickly. it's worked for years.

  • @scotthancox5501
    @scotthancox5501 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the information, forgot alot and learned more

  • @kennethpappas
    @kennethpappas 6 лет назад +17

    i used a stock gun, thined the paint and painted my kitchen cabinets just fine with this paint and gun. No mods required.

    • @BlueTurfer
      @BlueTurfer 6 лет назад +1

      Have you posted the final results of your cabinets anywhere?

    • @gwennadoty7374
      @gwennadoty7374 5 лет назад +1

      What size air compressor did you use with the gun?

    • @erniemartin654
      @erniemartin654 5 лет назад

      I know some professional painters and they openly talk about mixing paint thinner with latex paint. They recommend mixing 12% thinner to the latex paint. I haven't tried this but I hear it gets good results and better coverage.

    • @allhartfidelity
      @allhartfidelity 5 лет назад

      @@erniemartin654 nada.

    • @erniemartin654
      @erniemartin654 5 лет назад +1

      Mike Bell I know... and that’s what I’ve learned to be true as well. That being said this group of painters swear by this practice. Apparently it spreads easier and is a breeze to clean up. My friend (who works with this paint crew) tried this recently and claims he’ll never paint with straight latex again. I think it’s worth a try, I’ll let you know what my experience is with it. Good or bad.

  • @BobBlarneystone
    @BobBlarneystone 5 лет назад +2

    supposedly, what everybody thinks is silicone is actually a liquid PTFE that was applied at the factory. But if it fragments, then it doesn't matter what it is - it's probably a good idea to remove it. btw, the pressure range is 40-70 psi, and a 3/8 or 1/2 inch hose should be used.

  • @DesertDirtRider
    @DesertDirtRider 2 года назад +1

    Great video John. I’m going try the modification.

  • @deankay4434
    @deankay4434 3 месяца назад

    The white stuff on the fluid nozzle is akin to liquid pipe sealant. As for product volume (water) is pull handle full back with fluid adjustment out. Now too far and cap comes off & spring. Screw in until it hit the handle.
    Remember, first pull is air only, second pull is fluid. My relative has thrown away 22+ purple guns and I just want to stain a fence. Yes, if cleaned, spray epoxy, primer or high build but not paint base, inner-coat clear or high solids clear coat. This purple beast will last until the seal around the fluid needle gives out. Drilling is easy as this has thin chrome on brass. Hold in gloved have to keep from breaking drill bit!
    My fence is stained, no thinning. If painting a car, dedicate a hose with filter before hose and on gun & buy a 1.3mm or 1.4mm. Just move faster to get use to settings, gun & product. Best of luck. To strip varnish or cars, browse to "Cooper's Strip Club" as he & wife sell kits of product that work. Watch their videos.

  • @davidlopata7532
    @davidlopata7532 5 лет назад +2

    I mix in floetrol whenever I spray any paint out of a little gun like that. It works well

  • @edwardpersaud6218
    @edwardpersaud6218 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the advice 🙏

  • @tedfinkenauer42
    @tedfinkenauer42 5 дней назад

    Good tip. 40psi with gun running

  • @chalemi
    @chalemi 11 месяцев назад

    Great video. I plan on using an enamel paint to repaint a propane tank. I plan on thinning the paint before drilling out anything. I may not need to drill for this particular purpose. We'll see.

  • @unicopachulo
    @unicopachulo 4 года назад +5

    Good tutorial ,... I just bought this type of gun at Menards ($24.99) to paint my car and wanted to know if I could used it with regular house paint. this one looks like the one I bought, but I see that it cost less, it's always good to thin out the paint or use conditionals like Flood or Novaplex for better performance and to enhance your project . I like your idea and I sure will try it out when I purchase the Purple Gun... Thank you so much for your time, blessing on this pandemic crisis to you and your love ones :) †

  • @bobblanchard9041
    @bobblanchard9041 5 лет назад +2

    Great video.Drilled it out from inside and sprayed Stix primer today with no thinning and it was perfect.Not one drip from gun.Advance tomorrow with hopefully no thinning .Just cross my fingers.Impressed with spray gun.Thanks.I'm in my right mind as esso made a comment.

    • @flipper98c
      @flipper98c 4 года назад

      Did the Advance need thinning?

    • @bobblanchard9041
      @bobblanchard9041 4 года назад

      @@flipper98c just two capfulls of water from a 15 oz water bottle worked great per fill on the purple gun.Just thinned it a little bit.

  • @tgene3918
    @tgene3918 5 лет назад

    Thank you for the video. Also thank you folks who give good comments. I do not like to paint but I have to sometimes so I am not putting money into paint guns and so forth but because of this video I tried what you said and listened to what some peoples comments about thinning. I now have three of these guns and love it. I am going to buy better guns now but if I never tried just drilling a 5/64 hole I would still be brushing. Also thank you for answering those questions.

  • @jimfrazer5428
    @jimfrazer5428 Год назад

    I did my whole kitchen cabinets with Advance with foam rollers. 2 coats and they look sprayed. Advance is a self leveling paint. Much easier.

  • @petermccuskey1832
    @petermccuskey1832 Год назад

    Thank you for the information.

  • @lisag2771
    @lisag2771 5 лет назад

    Hi from Prairieville. Thanks for the help.

  • @CP-mj8wd
    @CP-mj8wd 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video

  • @bruzenmbongwa2496
    @bruzenmbongwa2496 8 месяцев назад

    thanks for sharing, nice video

  • @USCG.Brennan
    @USCG.Brennan 5 лет назад +2

    Part of the reason you're leaking fluid out of the tip is because you may need to "burnish" the drilled out area.
    One guy used the gun's needle and a drill to do the job and he claimed it stopped the leak. Just saying....

  • @russellbrown5531
    @russellbrown5531 3 года назад

    Enjoyed the video and will try drilling one of mine; great idea

  • @Nickporter17
    @Nickporter17 2 года назад +1

    Why not use the lvlp fun from harbor freight that's designed to spray latex??

  • @BirdDog.
    @BirdDog. 5 лет назад

    I ran advance without drilling it out and it went down great. I did thin out the paint with some water.

    • @BirdDog.
      @BirdDog. 4 года назад

      hardcoremofo I didn’t wait 24. Many people don’t wait. I ran about 5 passes with my gun in about 30 minutes. With the 1.4 it’s a fine mist that comes out.

  • @haroldbartley5970
    @haroldbartley5970 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the info. Was looking to buy one of these, but ended up buying the $19 electric one which I threw away. Next time I decide to paint I will give this a try.

  • @MattyDemello
    @MattyDemello 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Perry Stone. Haha you sound like the preacher Perry Stone

  • @stephenlongenberger9279
    @stephenlongenberger9279 3 года назад +4

    How was the over spray with the Benjamin Moore paint the used?

  • @Robbievigil
    @Robbievigil 5 лет назад +13

    What size is your compressor?

  • @josejimenezone
    @josejimenezone 5 лет назад

    Great video! Thanks!

  • @IstealXmas
    @IstealXmas 5 лет назад +4

    ADVANCE is the only paint I will use on Doors , trim and cabinets. The finish is like glass

    • @surrealartisan4625
      @surrealartisan4625 5 лет назад +1

      Thinking of doing the same to my cabinets. Did you thin the paint? How did you prep the cabinets?

  • @debbz575
    @debbz575 4 года назад +4

    What compressor did you use and that gun needs a compressor that would CFM at 12 required to spray

  • @jamesmcconnon2
    @jamesmcconnon2 3 года назад +2

    Stick your tub of paint in some warm water before you spray 😊

  • @Stevesbe
    @Stevesbe Год назад

    The command paint is better for spraying it drys so much faster

  • @murraymadness4674
    @murraymadness4674 4 года назад +1

    Let me say thanks for the video. What I paint latex with is the texture sprayer (from HF) that is used to spray wallboard gypsum. It has a few sized tips. The smallest can paint latex if you don't care a whole lot about the finish. So for my outdoor shed it paints it on thick and fast.

  • @Gladness2023
    @Gladness2023 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome!! Need to know how to open gun air pressure valve and set the air pressure on gauge on compressor and on gun.. my gun keeps dropping g pressure when I begin spraying but it shows 200psi on tank , I turned second dial on compressor up to to 35psi, their is gauge on gun but it drops to 20 psi when I pull the trigger to spray

  • @GlennHoeppner
    @GlennHoeppner 5 лет назад +16

    I have this paint gun. I did not drill it out and I have successfully sprayed latex. However, I had to thin down the latex quite a bit. I use a product called Floetrol. You can buy it damn near anywhere, but it's made to make latex spray like oil. Sometimes I'll also throw in a little purified water.

    • @gazsto9510
      @gazsto9510 2 года назад

      Yeah, I been using a 1.7mm tip and Floetrol helps big time with the drying and viscosity of the paint, adding some water helps if not overdone!

  • @aaronreed5754
    @aaronreed5754 4 года назад +2

    So is it possible to make that spray pattern wider, or is that as wide as it gets?

  • @AWSect79
    @AWSect79 4 года назад +3

    I spray Advanced with a $79 Husky HVLP running a 2.2 tip.. No thinning/drilling required and I get a perfectly smooth finish.

    • @melissajohnson2935
      @melissajohnson2935 4 года назад +2

      The difference is $79 versus $7.99. I'd drill it too. Huge difference between a home diy'er doing a project or 2 and professional painters that are using their equipment on the daily.

    • @AWSect79
      @AWSect79 4 года назад +3

      Melissa Johnson Well I consider the Husky to be a cheap gun. I am not a professional just a DIY’er and own two of them; one for primer and the other for paint. If the cheaper gun works with slight modifications cool. I started out with a decent gun because you know how projects go, one turns into two and two into 10 lol. Glad this video is out there for others that can benefit from it!

  • @nicholasbrown6481
    @nicholasbrown6481 5 лет назад +16

    You want multiple thin coats vs one thick coat

  • @regibson23
    @regibson23 4 года назад

    Nice clean work surface you have there at the beginning!

  • @octane_rl4659
    @octane_rl4659 3 года назад

    Awesome!

  • @ctvwrest
    @ctvwrest 4 года назад +1

    Why are you trying to flood the surface in one coat?

  • @shaynesabala
    @shaynesabala Год назад

    Your other sprayer sound like a HVLP set up. If that is the case you need to reduce the paint to get to work properly. I would be willing to bet that if you reduced the paint for this gun you would not needed to drill out the opening. The reason it is dripping could be because you opened the outlet while using the same push rod that is now too small for the drilled out outlet.

  • @DonML83
    @DonML83 5 лет назад +5

    How did drill the gun tip from a drill bit 5/62, from outside in or inside out? My concern is to place the drill bit right on the center of the hole. What is your current air compressor capacity?
    Thanks for your vid!
    Thanks for

    • @USCG.Brennan
      @USCG.Brennan 5 лет назад +3

      Drill from inside out....it helps center the drill bit.

    • @mskehan19
      @mskehan19 4 года назад +1

      And its 5/64 not 5/62

    • @chrisheffernan7540
      @chrisheffernan7540 4 года назад +1

      Harbor Freight sells a 2 gun combo kit that the larger gun already has a 2.0 nozzle, unlike the single purple gun with a 1.4 nozzle. No need for drilling.

  • @doug0823
    @doug0823 11 месяцев назад

    how did your cabinets turn out and lessons learned from that project?

  • @sagitario12ish
    @sagitario12ish 3 года назад

    Yea looks better.

  • @joea361
    @joea361 4 года назад +1

    dont forget a water seperator on your air line

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 4 года назад +2

      It is water based paint. So water in your line will just thin the paint out a little more. He's not exactly painting a concourse car here.

    • @joea361
      @joea361 4 года назад

      @@1pcfred true.. but still a good habit to get Into

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 4 года назад +5

      @@joea361 horses for courses. Never do anything any better than you have to. Because perfection is the enemy of good enough. Do enough good enough and you'll have the resources to tackle the jobs that demand excellence. Diddle about when you don't have to and you'll never get to where you need to be. Habits for habit sake is a bad habit itself.

    • @joea361
      @joea361 4 года назад +1

      @@1pcfred I'm not a perfectionist by any means either lol.
      Paint is paint.. if it looks good and your happy. Hey job well done. :)

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 4 года назад

      @@joea361 that's it. If you're happy it's good.

  • @phantom2226
    @phantom2226 5 лет назад +1

    Did you thin the paint with water? I did drill the Harbor gun to 2.00mm -- The paint I use Kelly Moore interior white swiss. The paint did not come out. What I do wrong? My air compressure is Porter Gabel pan cake 2.6sfm 6 gals. I hook up straight from the air compressor I set the air compressor at 60 psi. Thank you

  • @djc3949
    @djc3949 4 года назад +2

    Hey im using enamel exterior paint with this gun. Anyone think i should thin the paint a bit? And if so wat should I use. Thanks

    • @nahuelgalmarini117
      @nahuelgalmarini117 4 года назад

      If the paint is water based or latex. My opinion would be to use pure water. Not alot . U can ruin the paint and it will never dry. Make sure you do by little samples. Good luck

  • @TheTechGuider
    @TheTechGuider 5 лет назад +1

    Did you think the paint

  • @SomeDumUsrName
    @SomeDumUsrName 5 лет назад +9

    I hope you ended up turning down the air pressure for your project. You're running way too much pressure here.

  • @derpherpp
    @derpherpp 3 года назад

    how did u get it to lay more material because i got mine all the way maxed out everything and its still laying light with 40psi.

  • @er70ca72
    @er70ca72 7 месяцев назад

    You need a needle to match the tip

  • @lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071
    @lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 5 лет назад +1

    Paint Thinner you add 50% paint and 50% Pain Thinner and you can even shoot thru a 0.8 no problem. But if you mix 80/20 - 70/30 paint/paint thinner you should be just fine just make sure you stir it well so it mixes all the way.

  • @shure46
    @shure46 5 лет назад +3

    interesting video , I would have never guessed you could get water based paint (even if it's waterborne alkyd) through a cup air sprayer without thinning it too much ..... not a bad little rig for some small stuff .... Of course i could brush and mini-roll the project before you get that mess hooked up and sprayin' !!!! lol

    • @SomeDumUsrName
      @SomeDumUsrName 5 лет назад +3

      and it would LOOK brushed and rolled lol

    • @shure46
      @shure46 5 лет назад

      @@SomeDumUsrName - with good technique "brushed or rolled" comes out very well , especially if it's a satin finish ..... quality mini rollers , short nap , do quite well , but yes , I will give you a spray finish would be best .....

  • @alanmatthews9260
    @alanmatthews9260 5 лет назад

    Did you not thin your paint after straining? Benjamin Moore Advance is already thinner than other paint but you still have to thin it even using a 2mm

  • @LincolnWoodworks
    @LincolnWoodworks Год назад

    Does your regulator leak air out? I'm trying to use the same one and it seems to leak air out of it

  • @billjones8466
    @billjones8466 2 года назад

    How did your project turn out ? Did you have to thin the paint with water at all? Thanks

  • @robeftyearian8760
    @robeftyearian8760 5 лет назад

    Good to know on spraying heavy stuff

  • @borna430
    @borna430 3 года назад

    i'll thin it up with acetone a bit

  • @dennischang5296
    @dennischang5296 4 года назад +1

    Did you thin the paint out?

  • @qwertandrew8720
    @qwertandrew8720 4 года назад

    How long did you wait for the advance to recoat? The TDS says needs 16hours. Is it right?

  • @Ameena-th5gt
    @Ameena-th5gt 6 месяцев назад

    They screwed me bro mine has a plastic spray tip😢

  • @gerardoespinoza7202
    @gerardoespinoza7202 5 лет назад +1

    The paint is great but you have the wrong guy for the job, you should get a graco airless sprayer with a 311 graco tip for cabinets door or 313 for interior doors and trim moldings and you will get professional results

    • @randysimpson7625
      @randysimpson7625 5 лет назад +3

      I believe the Graco is over $200. The HF purple is $16 at my local store. By proper thinning I have been able to spray a wide range of viscosity materials with my unmodified but fine tuned Purple. By fine tune I mean well cleaned and seal air leaks with teflon tape.

    • @allhartfidelity
      @allhartfidelity 5 лет назад

      @@randysimpson7625 you can also spray it with a garden hose. It all depends of how smooth a finish one desires. I do understand your point of price vs. Performance however, and feel the bottom barrel price of an 8.00 gun cuts your efforts short. Its a grest way for you to learn though, and Advanced is the right product for the job. That said, advanced lays down so well, i can achive a smooth finish with a brush and or foam roller. So, no 8 dollar gun. But then, ive also ben painting for 25 years, and have used Advanced since it came out. You seem to be learning, and doing so at a reasonable cost so good job Randy.

    • @allhartfidelity
      @allhartfidelity 5 лет назад +1

      As far as Michel, try the HEI tips, and fft. Use of numbers like 311 and 313 are no longer specific with the wide variety of fine finish tips now avail. Not to mention, randy is shooting cabinets. How will he run a quart or 2 through a piston pump? (Airless)

  • @thangatheone904
    @thangatheone904 2 года назад

    Can we thin Benjamin Moore Advance paint ? If so what should I use to thin water or thinner

  • @skool225
    @skool225 6 лет назад +1

    Good video ty man!😉

  • @aaronreed5754
    @aaronreed5754 4 года назад

    So im bout to paint the trim around my house, what kind of paint should I use with this gun? I see somebody said don't use base paint.

  • @gwennadoty7374
    @gwennadoty7374 5 лет назад

    What size air compressor are you using? And what size hose on your air compressor are you using?

  • @charredskeleton
    @charredskeleton 3 года назад +2

    You NEED a particle respirator listed for paint. You are shedding you lungs right there.

  • @dmvngs1008
    @dmvngs1008 4 года назад +1

    What state r u from ?

  • @glytch5
    @glytch5 4 года назад

    did someone use it and return it? That had some serious crap in it.

  • @stevenbrown2039
    @stevenbrown2039 Год назад

    What pressure did u regulate at?

  • @OldSchoolNoe
    @OldSchoolNoe 3 года назад

    Interesting

  • @mikepowell134
    @mikepowell134 4 года назад

    How did the doors turn out?

  • @Benmeglei1
    @Benmeglei1 2 года назад

    Was it fine for cabinet doors? Do you still have it or you got something else? Give us an update. Cheers.

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  2 года назад +1

      Yes, it was fine for cabinet doors, but I’ve tried a few products and think I like PPG Breakthrough better. Still get a hard finish, but it sprays better and cures much quicker. I don’t recommend brushing Breakththrough if you’re an amateur…dry time to short. You get enough to lay it down and feather, say 3 or 4 strokes, then you can see it start to set up. SW emerald is between the two and may be the middle ground between final product and workability.

  • @plantguy100
    @plantguy100 6 лет назад +3

    Also, Benjamin Moore indicates Advance can be thinned with 6.25% (8 oz per gallon) water without causing a problem with the paint.

    • @jean-pierrescherer8250
      @jean-pierrescherer8250 6 лет назад +1

      CORRECT. I diluted this paint, sprayed a gas can and it came out as new, paint is solid and it looks like it was factory sprayed! I di NO modification whatsoever to the purple gun!

    • @duartepaintinghandymanservices
      @duartepaintinghandymanservices 6 лет назад +2

      flotrol is better for thinning proclassic or any other waterborne paint

    • @jamesc.campbell4784
      @jamesc.campbell4784 5 лет назад

      would you use up to the 6% floral just like water?@@duartepaintinghandymanservices

    • @jamesc.campbell4784
      @jamesc.campbell4784 5 лет назад

      flotrol*

    • @duartepaintinghandymanservices
      @duartepaintinghandymanservices 5 лет назад

      James C. Campbell you can actually use more because flotrol doesn't effect coverage as water does, thats the benefits of it.

  • @brandonbutler9833
    @brandonbutler9833 6 лет назад +1

    Great video. Very informative. I have been considering one of those Harbor Freight guns for several interior projects for a while now and I think you've convinced me to bite the bullet and get one. One question though....you have the most interesting accent. It reminds me of people I've known from Louisiana. Am I close?

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  6 лет назад +1

      Brandon Butler, guilty as charged. I had a much more pronoun Cajun accent when younger, but I’ve been in Baton Rouge for years now where they are more mixed with Southerners.

    • @brandonbutler9833
      @brandonbutler9833 6 лет назад +1

      I knew it!! Thanks for the reply, and greetings from two states to your east. Also, thanks for beating Miami last night. :)

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  6 лет назад

      Truth be told, not many of us expected a win, but that's what makes it all the sweeter.

    • @travisthechimp7857
      @travisthechimp7857 5 лет назад

      ''Bite the bullet''? Say What????? Brandon... these guns are like $11 bucks... the bullet you want to bite would probably cost you more, hahahhaaa!.

  • @cougargold
    @cougargold 5 лет назад

    Isn’t advanced a water-based paint? I believe you can just thin it with water. In fact, I think it even says so on the can. Wouldn’t that solve the problem? Yeah, you would have to do an extra coat or two, but you have to do that anyway for the best results with advanced.

    • @FisherCatProductions
      @FisherCatProductions 3 года назад +1

      You cannot simply thin paint until it works in your gun, with undersized tips. Paint manufacturers specify how much you can thin their products without destroying the paint's integrity. Hence, larger tips.

    • @cougargold
      @cougargold 3 года назад

      @@FisherCatProductions According to Benjamin Moore you can. It doesn’t give a recommended amount of water, but most paint forums recommend 6-10% for HVLP systems.
      With an airless sprayer, you definitely don’t need to thin.
      media.benjaminmoore.com/WebServices/prod/assets/production/datasheets/TDS_0792/20181012%20792%20TDS%20US%20OKF.pdf

  • @stevenmorris2293
    @stevenmorris2293 6 лет назад +4

    Airless. FF Tip. Forget the hvlp

    • @whitechevy33
      @whitechevy33 6 лет назад +5

      Tim, a good airless graco is well over $250. The HF gun is less than $25 and provides much more adjustments vs airless for a budget diy person.

    • @stevenmorris2293
      @stevenmorris2293 6 лет назад +3

      @@whitechevy33 true dat 👍

    • @larryschulz8314
      @larryschulz8314 5 лет назад +1

      @@whitechevy33 over a $1,000 actually

  • @Cartoons-by-Kirby
    @Cartoons-by-Kirby 3 года назад

    Silly question. I know manufacturers used alkyd to paint cars in the past. Has anyone ever tried to paint a car with this stuff? I've used it on cabinets and it is hands down the best paint I have ever used for that. It is by far one of the most user friendly paints.

    • @DanLivingston
      @DanLivingston 3 года назад

      Advance is an interior only product (High Gloss is the exception). I is not durable enough for autotive use.

  • @twiztid83222
    @twiztid83222 2 года назад

    I saw ppl adding water to water based paint. Wouldn’t that be good?

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  2 года назад

      Usually yes, but since this isn’t a latex, too much water will reduce the solids to the point where the finished coat won’t be thick/hard enough

    • @twiztid83222
      @twiztid83222 2 года назад

      @@johnnosacka9556 so I can add water to latex and water based paints?

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  2 года назад

      @@twiztid83222 to a degree. The label should tell you how much is safe. Advance says no more than 10%. This is only done when you need a thinner paint for spraying. If you’re rolling or brushing, you wouldn’t want to thin….unless you’re like me and need a few ounces to cover that last corner and don’t want to go back to the store ;)

  • @lockystocky1
    @lockystocky1 5 лет назад +17

    Who in there right mind would drill out there paint gun! Either water the paint down or buy a different gun/tip.

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  5 лет назад +1

      lockystocky1 I would normally agree with you, but this was kind of an experiment. The gun was $8 and I bought a couple of them. Plus, this paint seems to be notorious for not allowing too much thinning.

    • @dustoff499
      @dustoff499 5 лет назад

      Buying a different tip and needle is not as easy as one thinks. I searched for days to find a spay gun (locally) with a tip size greater than 1.8. My only thought would be the needle is not sized to the drill bit used.

    • @danielwoodley9555
      @danielwoodley9555 5 лет назад +2

      It’s actually pretty common to do this in the custom automotive paint world for metal flake paint , if it works it works especially on a cheap gun

    • @zeke112964
      @zeke112964 5 лет назад +2

      lockystocky1.....Their not there

    • @nicholasbrown6481
      @nicholasbrown6481 5 лет назад +2

      You could thin the paint. But the gun is super cheap so who cares

  • @aaronfuksa2047
    @aaronfuksa2047 5 лет назад +1

    how big is your air tank for reference.

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  5 лет назад +2

      aaron fuksa I have a very old craftsman 10 gal, 1.5 hp. I just finished my kitchen cabinets....35 doors and 20 drawers. It did fine.

    • @jockellis
      @jockellis 5 лет назад

      John Nosacka How smooth was the finish?

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  5 лет назад

      jockellis I won’t say it’s factory finish, but it’s as smooth as any DIY’er could ask. Cabinet doors were painted when hanging vertically and came out smooth, and without any sagging since I also did not over apply like you might with an airless

    • @jockellis
      @jockellis 5 лет назад

      John Nosacka Thanks. I’ve got a HF gun but used an aerosol can to paint some cabinet doors and wasn’t too happy with the result.

  • @dontblameme6328
    @dontblameme6328 3 года назад +1

    Holy crap.... Are you painting or sand blasting? You're running way too much pressure and trying to lay down way too much paint at one time. Not to mention you can't run a paint gun with a pancake compressor that's built to run a nail gun.

  • @clist9406
    @clist9406 5 лет назад +3

    Dont drill it. Go to Northern Tools they have spray guns 2.0 , 2.3 , 2.5

    • @jimnewton2183
      @jimnewton2183 5 лет назад +3

      but the gun was only $10, why not

    • @melissajohnson2935
      @melissajohnson2935 4 года назад +1

      He got it for $7.99. No big deal if he messed it up.

    • @chrisheffernan7540
      @chrisheffernan7540 4 года назад

      Harbor freight has a dual gun combo kit that the larger gun has a 2.0 nozzle.

  • @duramax0103
    @duramax0103 3 года назад +1

    What size air compressor are you using?

  • @dirty4op
    @dirty4op 6 лет назад +8

    To much air, Turn the air pressure down a little & open up the material adjustment on gun & slow your speed down

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  6 лет назад +1

      dirty4op thanks for the tip. I’m spraying cabinet doors this weekend and will try to decrease the airflow. I don’t think I can increase the material flow more than I had it.

    • @thematthewlondon
      @thematthewlondon 5 лет назад +16

      @@jtp1389 calm down there grammar nazi, we could all understand what he was saying

  • @shaynesabala
    @shaynesabala Год назад

    It's a very good paint however, it is not that durable. It scratches very easily.

  • @plantguy100
    @plantguy100 6 лет назад

    John, great video. I'm trying to do exactly what you've shown. Questions: 1) did you thin the Advance with water at all and 2) did you have any leakage out of the tip once you bored it out or does the needle still fill it out? Interestingly, I have a gun from a different (Chinese) manufacturer with a 2.0 mm tip which I bought to use with Advance, but it performs less well than the HF gun with the 1.4 mm tip. For the other gun, I need to thin the paint excessively in order to spray. Also need more like 60 psi. So something about gun design other than tip size comes into play. If I can spray Advance unthinned from the HF gun with a 2 mm tip I would be ecstatic. :)

    • @johnnosacka9556
      @johnnosacka9556  6 лет назад +1

      plantguy100 I was thinned a little less than 10%, but you would never have known. I’m tempted to say the effects on thickness were close to non existent. I had followed others’ vids to set up the gun with plumber’s tape. No leakage. I didn’t have the wrench I needed but found one at the pawn shop for .50 cents

    • @plantguy100
      @plantguy100 6 лет назад +3

      OK, John, thank you. Less than 10% is within reason. I've been spraying cabinet doors with a similar product, Sherwin Williams ProClassic Alkyd Acrylic hybrid, which has a shorter recoat and cure time than the Advance. (I have previously applied the Advance with a mohair mini roller and very much like the product.) With the SW product, I've been successful with around 10% to 15% dilution with the unmodified HF gun. Strangely, another manufacturer's gun with different design and 2.0 mm nozzle has required more thinning, such that the paint is too runny. You're right, if you stay below 10% dilution, the mixture is still thick enough not to run. In fact, I prefer a slightly thinner mixture whatever my application method, since it allows the paint to level out better.
      My main concern is leakage at the modified tip, but perhaps the tapered needle still completely fills the bored out nozzle such that no leaking occurs. I tried a simple water test with the HF needle for the 1.4 mm tip in the 2.0 mm nozzle from the other gun, and indeed it did not leak.

    • @DavidTorres-tw8kv
      @DavidTorres-tw8kv 6 лет назад

      @@plantguy100 You mix 8 ounce of water in a gallon

  • @patrickaudelien652
    @patrickaudelien652 Год назад +1

    Talk thru out the whole video ...didn't show us the fun stuff like putting the sprayer together......video is made to show us stuff not listen to you go on and on and on and on

  • @Mr1fingersalute
    @Mr1fingersalute Месяц назад

    Thank God for the Sata NR 95 and Sata Jet B, also for the Chinese that copy everything, or the famous HF purple gun would have never existed 😂

  • @mpikas
    @mpikas 5 лет назад

    What pressure are you spraying at? Sounds very loud for the typical ~25psi you'd set for an HVLP gun.

  • @fernandolujan4656
    @fernandolujan4656 5 лет назад

    What type of compressor do I use?

  • @estebandelatrinidad9241
    @estebandelatrinidad9241 5 лет назад +1

    Jajajaja a lot of Red Robin birds in the area