Chainsaw Man Vs Alucard

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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

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  • @georgegobin1839
    @georgegobin1839 13 дней назад +7

    Peak Fiction Mr. Craft!🗿👍
    I know my boy Deji was gonna win!
    Take all the time you need on the vids, no need to rush!🙏

  • @revenantronin8377
    @revenantronin8377 13 дней назад +10

    The notion that Denji can erase concepts is VERY flawed logic.
    He erases the concept of "fears" made manifest as Devils specifically, Alucard is neither a fear concept nor a devil.
    Erasing the "fear concept" of a car does not mean erasing the "concept" of a car.
    Yes, if Denji erased the Car Devil(fear concept), then all cars(concept) would cease to exist, *but that does not mean if Denji went and ate a car alone, then the concept of cars would be erased as well. And that's what you mean when you assert that he could erase Alucard's concept.*
    Basically, in order for Alucard to be erased conceptually by Denji, Denji would have to devour the fear concept of Alucard, which would be the Vampire Devil, not Alucard himself.
    Alucard is the car, and this hypothetical Vampire Devil is the fear concept of said car. Merely devouring the car does nothing to the concept.
    If Denji went and ate a human on the street, humanity would not cease to exist. To do that, he'd have to eat the Human Devil, the fear concept of humans itself.
    So no... I heavily disagree that Denji "at full power" could kill Alucard simply by "erasing his concept", that just shows a poor understanding of how the power system works in CSM.
    Full powered Denji may be stronger, faster and allat jazz, but he has no way of killing Alucard for good and that's just a fact. At that point, it's just a stalemate at best.
    Also, ghosts aren't souls but that's irrelevant to my main point.

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +6

      @@revenantronin8377 listen I'm not reading all of this, if you want to discuss or debate here is my discord mrcraftytm

    • @gabusdeux
      @gabusdeux 11 дней назад +4

      @@MrCraftyScales my guy if you cant read the equivalent of 2 paragraphs for an elementary school English project you have bigger issues than debating chainsawman vs alucard

    • @LeCheg
      @LeCheg 10 дней назад

      ​@@gabusdeuxI don't really see the reason to be a dick, crafty makes it abundantly clear he does not do RUclips comment debates or back and forths he does shit on discord so he simply said he'd rather do it on discord and even gave the commenter his discord

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  10 дней назад +1

      @gabusdeux lmfao it's not that I physically/mentally cannot read it, it's just A too time consuming attacking all of the points at once and B I refused to be shotgunned and will not steal man your points without proof, which is why I said discord cus we can actually respond in real time and show prove

  • @guilha1506
    @guilha1506 13 дней назад +7

    13:10 He erased the light, not the star itself

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +6

      @@guilha1506 their is evidence to suggest the actual star or sun is erased but to each your own

  • @bennogb5069
    @bennogb5069 10 дней назад +1

    16:30 You can actually get the feat much higher, as the Gun Devil during this feat was only at around 20% of its power and still performed that feat. Pochita far outscales the 100% of it. And only the Gun Gauntlet was able to scale to an off-guard Pochita.
    Pochita is far far faster than just far above the speed of sound, as we literally saw him in a weaker from in Part 1 travel across the deepest part of Hell in around 1 minute to the humanr ealm door. And we know that each door cn hold its own seperate realm, as we saw in the Falling Devil arc and these realms ranging upto universal in size with the human realm door. So traveling across Hell, wich holds as we've seen, innumerable amounts of doors is crazy.
    The dArkenss Devil also did something similar when it its stated by Pingtsi that the Primal Devils are watching them from deep parts in Hell. And only a minute after that the Darkness Devil was able to arrive there
    And we know the weapon amp alone is crazy, as it can make regualr soap an effective weapon that scales to Devils. And the guilt amp on top of it making a school uniform able to one-shot Yuko into hundreds of pieces while it didnt even touch Yuko and doing all of that basically on accident.
    So Pochita being able to react the the Gun Gauntlet bullet should be far far more pimpressive than what a base 20% Gun Devil did. To the point that the Gun Gauntlets amped it so mcuh that it can come clsoe to scaling to transcendant Devils that scale above any other Devils.
    And then the Gun Godess bullet is again, logically far stronger and faster and the Aging Devil was with negible diffulty able to perception blitz Yoru and the bullet itself. Witht eh bullet not even able to able move an inch while Aging spoke an an entire monolouge. Either this is part of the Aging able to control the time of objects and going off that also having space-time manipulation, meaning it could've stopped time and it did this while it wasnt even paying attention and exactly when it was a few feet away from it.
    This is all with engible diffculty, with basically treating the attack like that of a fly.
    So yeah, thi sis easily in teh fTL+ ranges without even considering the higehr ends of Pochitas speed when slashing at Yorus face.

  • @coolbeans3752
    @coolbeans3752 12 дней назад +2

    Damn, didn't see this coming but the rat reached deep in the pantry.
    And started cooking.

  • @bennogb5069
    @bennogb5069 10 дней назад +2

    10:30 No, Part 2 Pochita post-Chainsaw Man Chruch arc is far stronger as he is stated by Barem on apr with fears like aging and Sickness. And the easy answer to why Yoru was able to damage and catch him is because in every instance he took damage, he was visibly and obviously off-guard. As in the first instance he was going in for an attack on a Yoru he was easily able to perception blitz and cut off her head before. And the Gun Godess bullet came at him from behind, while he was supressing himself so people could donate blood to him. We know whtat Pochita is so strong that he cant supresss himself to be kind to people as thats part of his narrative just like Makima.
    Like the "anyone who asks to be saved by Chainsaw Man will be killed alonside the person attacking them".
    And Pochita was stated by Makima to easily be able to dodge the 1000 year spear, no matter what, even in his weakend state. The only reason it hit him is because she aimed it at Kobeni and Pochita blocked the attack for her.

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  10 дней назад

      @@bennogb5069 ok yes he could dodge it but he still almost died from getting hit so doesn't take away from the point also I wouldn't consider Barem a reliable source

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 10 дней назад

      @@MrCraftyScales Pochita in Part 2 currently should still be far stronger tough than in Part 1 at his peak.
      And yeah Pochita got rocken by the 1000 year spear due to being weakend.
      But since we agree on All these points its all right.
      And I also made a comment as to why the Gulf of Mexico to Pochita feat is way more impressive than you portrayed in the video, due to how fast Pochitas slash could be.
      And the fact Pochita was far outscales even a 100% Gun Devil and even scales above it when it got a weapon + guilt amp as the Gun Gauntlet.
      And he should also scale above the Gun Godess bullet aswell due to statements toward him from Aging being far more impressive

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 10 дней назад

      @@MrCraftyScales and actually, the universal+ scale you mentioned for the Aging/Primal Devils is more consistent than you give it Credit to.
      As even the Eternity/Infinity Devil was able to create an infinite realm with its being shown to have its own space-time.
      So aging creating a universe with its own space-time should not be far fetched as it completely transcends the Eternity Devils capabilities.
      And the Eternity/Infinity Devil also embodies the concept of Infinity, and if we are going by the Devil physiology shown in the series and in your Video it should also be universal+.
      And transcending can also mean to be spatially transcendant, wich would make them 5D.
      Wich would be consistent with their portrayal as incomprehensible eldritch beings and the fact that the Hell realm could be interpreted as a multiverse.
      As it holds innumerable doors wirh their own seperate realms, as shown in Part 2. And only the human realm door wich is inside Hell, holds an entire universe-sized space.

  • @michaelmarto69
    @michaelmarto69 13 дней назад +4

    Another thing, if denji managed to eat alucard, wont alucard just believe he wasnt eaten and magically reappear

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +2

      @@michaelmarto69 ? No If he's conceptually erased then there is nothing of him to imagine as there's nothing there

    • @michaelmarto69
      @michaelmarto69 13 дней назад +4

      @@MrCraftyScales but isn't the point of schrodinger powers that he can exist anywhere even limbo and the space where nothing exist

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +2

      @michaelmarto69 I mean your assuming that last part but also we see to fight he has to physically manifest thus leaves him open

    • @michaelmarto69
      @michaelmarto69 13 дней назад +2

      @@MrCraftyScales okay then

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 10 дней назад

      @@michaelmarto69 technically, Pochitas stomacha lso behaves like the schrodingers cat theory. The thigns that it can reguritate dont exist conceptually in the world for it to be throwing them up. So yeah, it would probably work to decomision Alucard if he eats his main body

  • @juliusnovachrono4370
    @juliusnovachrono4370 12 дней назад +4

    You should do a video on Buddha from Journey to the West as a standalone or vs anyone. Happy new year!

  • @michaelmarto69
    @michaelmarto69 13 дней назад +9

    Nice scaling for alucard. Now do dio vs alucard because death battle were smoking on some crack when they did that

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +3

      @@michaelmarto69 oh I'm actually doing that lol

    • @georgegobin1839
      @georgegobin1839 13 дней назад +1

      Naw Dio actually wins against Alucard.
      Dio is literally hundreds or thousands of times faster because of his stand, can literally stop time and can regenerate by absorbing blood.
      Dio just has the force Alucard to use lv zero and Alucard is cooked!😅

    • @michaelmarto69
      @michaelmarto69 13 дней назад +2

      @georgegobin1839 did you watch death battle and actually believe them

    • @michaelmarto69
      @michaelmarto69 13 дней назад +3

      @georgegobin1839 there'd no way for dio to win but alucard can beat him with his eyes closed

    • @jackaboynaylor9273
      @jackaboynaylor9273 13 дней назад

      @@michaelmarto69 Evidently, they do.

  • @Mikuism_
    @Mikuism_ 11 дней назад +5

    Pochita doesn't really scale to Primal Fears in terms of AP in Part 1. Makima doesn't scale to them either besides maybe speed. (Which even then might be contentious since Makima in terms of physical speed is relative to Weak CSM whos pretty much equal to Hybrid Quanxi. So its likely Darkness was just toying with everyone.) Since she was one shot by 20% Gun Devil who is supposed to be far far weaker even with 100% than Primal Fears. She used telekinesis that attacked its internal organs as it started bleeding from its orifices. Pochita should be stronger in Part 2 since everyone now fears him and Spear Hybrid said that CSM is now as feared as something like Aging thanks to the recent fear boost. Which should be a insane boost since even Asa after getting a much smaller fear amp could no sell and blitz someone could prior could easily cut off her arm and perception blitz her.

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  11 дней назад +2

      @@Mikuism_ yes HOH and Makima scale to primal fears

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 10 дней назад

      Makima literally amde the Darkenss Devil spew out blood, eventough it might've been off-guard, that still means she scales to transcendant Devils. And transcendant Devils scale above any other normal Devil, besides Horsemen. And she was also able to catch the Darkness Devil with it before it could evade and she could perform counter attacks in the same time it took the Darkness Devil to iniate its own. And no other character there could percieve its attacks coming in the least.
      And Hybrids have feats that scale to a pre-nerf Part 1 Pochita, when the Spear Devil cuaght him with a spear that actually went straight trough him. So yeah, atleast in AP they scale above the Gun Devil, but not in travel speed and DC wich is what is mentioned multiple times to be impressive about it like by Himeno.
      And Barem is the one who said that, not the Spear hybrid. And yeah, I agree PArt 2 Pochita slightly scales to Primal fears as in constrast to the Gun Godess bullet, the Aging Devil praised Pochita when they fought in recent chapters. And he was able to physically tear it apart, meanwhile the Gun Goddess bullet is treated like the attack from a fly that the Aging Devilw asnt even paying attention to and joked about how weak it is.
      People cant seem to udnerstand that Pochita was off-guarded by Yoru in every isntance that Yoru was able to damage him. And the moment he is on-guard he was able to counter those attacks and in the case of the gun Godess bullet he was supressed to the point he tought normal huamns could donate blood to him and was attacked from behind.

  • @coombs961
    @coombs961 11 дней назад +2

    I think I have a hard time believing that the blood Alucard was moving was moving at Mach speeds when a character was able to have a full villain monologue during that time. Otherwise good video

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  11 дней назад +2

      @@coombs961 I mean that can just be moving/talking that fast

  • @Kalleofae
    @Kalleofae 12 дней назад +3

    Allucard is the true gun devil.

  • @jackaboynaylor9273
    @jackaboynaylor9273 13 дней назад +3

    Can I get a LET ME GET SOME SIP now that we're in the new year?

  • @SilverSaw988
    @SilverSaw988 11 дней назад +1

    I very much disagree that makima scales to primal fears. She got demolished by darkness and ran away. She made it bleed.. for 1 panel, and then it was instantly healed with no sign of damage whatsoever. Same thing Aging is doing now.
    The series has been extremely consistent with the portrayal of primal fears, and the 4 hourseman (other than death) are absolutely not a match for them. Pochita and War (a 4 hourseman) have actually been powered up because of the ongoing chainsaw war, and they have been said to be no match for aging. And that’s even been demonstrated multiple times.
    It is simply going easy on them, because it has to let chainsawman live, in order to fulfill its contract.
    I’m a much bigger CSM fan than hellsing. But that scaling is just narratively wrong. The primals are insanely underestimated by some fans. They are the strongest things in the series by far. And his has been made clear through both feats and many, many statements
    Still, enjoyable video, but I can’t agree with that scaling at all

  • @Tyrextheone
    @Tyrextheone 13 дней назад +6

    I like your vids but idk about this one chief

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +3

      @@Tyrextheone wdym?

    • @Tyrextheone
      @Tyrextheone 13 дней назад +4

      @ I feel like you overscaled both characters, But for chainsaw man getting him to country level because the nuke and typhoon devil should have the combined power of every nuke and typhoon in history is crazy because I mean the bat devil doesn’t have the combined power or every bat. Also, the ftl and planetary stuff is wild.

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +3

      @Tyrextheone ok if you want you can calc the combine power of every single bat I just didn't do that as that just sounds redundant and would most likely just not be on par to the feet he is already performed, also you didn't provide a debunk and what's the debunk for the FTL and planetary?

    • @Tyrextheone
      @Tyrextheone 13 дней назад +4

      @@MrCraftyScales I’m not far into the manga but sounds like the aging devil has something similar to a domain which would be a creation feet and we don’t know how big this world is. For the falling devil I get the calc but it’s not consistent in the verse. And for the ftl stuff I don’t understand it because you say “let’s assume that he is going the speed of sound” in it so it lost me.

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +3

      @Tyrextheone if you want I can just send you the calc for the FTL stuff but also Yes it is a creation feat but how does that debunk anything? Also why we assume the world is any less than ours as it's just a colloquial standard we use also You're saying it's inconsistent for the lower ends but as established the gods of the verse can have this higher level of scaling and there's no contradiction

  • @CarlosGarcia91000
    @CarlosGarcia91000 12 дней назад +4

    Do you do comic book, scaling, videos and vs?

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  12 дней назад +3

      yer

    • @CarlosGarcia91000
      @CarlosGarcia91000 12 дней назад +3

      @@MrCraftyScales like marvel and DC?

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  12 дней назад +3

      @CarlosGarcia91000 not the best at it now but will get into it

    • @CarlosGarcia91000
      @CarlosGarcia91000 10 дней назад +3

      @@MrCraftyScales which Marvel or DC character are you more interested in scaling right now?

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  10 дней назад +2

      @CarlosGarcia91000 hmmm I mean one of my favorites is ghost rider

  • @yspy_1801
    @yspy_1801 13 дней назад +3

    I didn't really get the typhon devil part. You said that each devil was the concept of the fear that they represented right? If the typhon devil is actually the concept of typhons, why would just scale to earth's typhoons and not other planets aswell? Maybe I'm just being stupid but I really don't get that part.

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +2

      @@yspy_1801 I mean sure but like it's better to use earth history

    • @jackaboynaylor9273
      @jackaboynaylor9273 13 дней назад +3

      Because typhoons are inherently an earthly concept around the western Pacific. Anything outside of earth would have an extraterrestrial prefix, which would actually make the devil much weaker because we're safe from those storms because they aren't on our planet.

    • @yspy_1801
      @yspy_1801 11 дней назад +1

      @@jackaboynaylor9273 Can CONCEPT itself isn't earthly, the name is.
      Winds or gases that twirl around at very violent speeds aren't inherently earthly.
      But the rest, fair enough

    • @jackaboynaylor9273
      @jackaboynaylor9273 10 дней назад +1

      @@yspy_1801 Hence why I said typhoons are an earthly concept, not that concepts are inherently earthly as in regards to where the thing the concept is based on comes from. Names are not an earthly concept as in being bound within our planet as well, hence the sun being called the sun along with whatever extraterrestrial thing having a name. High speed winds are not a typhoon, a typhoon is specifically a tropical storm in the Indian or western Pacific oceans, making it inherently something that can happen in a certain region of our planet only by definition.

  • @nighfinite
    @nighfinite 13 дней назад +2

    Great analysis although
    “High Godly regen”?
    I thought you said regeneration from conceptual attacks was impossible because it’s illogical…. Hmmm

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +2

      @@nighfinite you do know you can phrase types of conceptual generation in ways to make it where it's not incoherent

  • @YoungShonen
    @YoungShonen 13 дней назад +3

    Crafty save the chainsaw man scaling society🐗🤞

    • @georgegobin1839
      @georgegobin1839 13 дней назад +2

      Indeed! People are sleeping on Chainsaw man right now for some reason?😂

  • @TheOvervoid2099
    @TheOvervoid2099 11 дней назад +3

    Very Accurate Scaling for Denji
    Planetary AP and FTL+ Speed is definitely 100% Valid for Chainsaw Man

  • @manngay5046
    @manngay5046 13 дней назад +2

    Nice Scaling On Alucard Now Put Him Up Against Any Red and Black characters.

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +2

      @@manngay5046 who?

    • @manngay5046
      @manngay5046 13 дней назад +1

      @@MrCraftyScales Deadpool or Dante (Devil May Cry)
      Those are only red and black characters I know

    • @MrCraftyScales
      @MrCraftyScales  13 дней назад +2

      @manngay5046 oh lmfao

  • @zaimhoque8418
    @zaimhoque8418 6 дней назад +1

    Alucard negs the verse
    End of discussion