This is Warframe! This video was actually made because of a comment thread on another video talking about the Warframe (hero thing) featured in this video!
Yeah this video was mainly to support the case that Nourish is a much better subsume than Roar for Gara, even for Vitrify nukes. Roar will do more damage per individual vitrify nuke than Nourish still when you compare them 1:1, but Nourish solves her energy problems allowing her to cast so many more Vitrifies than the Roar build, and mod more into strength, that overall Nourish is just more DPS.
@@felix_patriot I got mad with the "Gara issues" and just redo my video and added build where I just use roar and stack my storm and just keep it up, walk up to something = dead, and ngl I love that vibe, like walking and just killing everything with it once stacked xD
The math looks about right, from what I'm seeing you're not procing any DoT status effects so it shouldn't even be double dipping. It's single dipping as intended. (I may have missed something? But I'm pretty dumb sometimes haha)
This video was in response to a comment string on AznvasionsPlays' Gara build yesterday, trying to justify why Nourish is a better option to Roar. I typed: *Your roar is only a 1.6x damage buff. You're not doing any DoT's so it's not double dipping on anything. Lets just pretend that Nourish gives no elemental damage buff. Nourish will improve your energy economy so much that you can dump Fleeting. That not only frees up a mod slot which could be spent on strength i.e. from Transient or Umbral Intensify, but also makes the duration significantly more comfy. This also frees up a shard slot which can be spent on additional casting speed. I'd wager you're going to have enough additional energy income, casting speed and strength, that you can sustainably spam so many more Vitrify nukes that you'll out-DPS the Roar build (on top of being additionally comfy). And that's not even considerate of the Viral weapon damage buff. Casting additional Vitrifys was in the game plan anyway to leverage Shattered Storm. The Nourish build could also lean into Combat Discipline to pulse Viral, priming enemies in a decently sized AOE around the caster for double damage. Nourish, unlike Roar, will also actually increase how fast your 2 stacks up touch-of-death damage too. A 1.6x damage mult is a good option, but certainly not the best when you consider how Nourish can drastically affect and reshape so many elements of the build. Also, why not use Ceramic Dagger whenever it's evolution also has +100% melee damage, and it can easily accrue tonnes of initial combo instead of needing to slot Rauta?* And other people responded: *"Roar buffs your explosion damage and splinter storm gain. It buffs the damaged splinter storm does while it's active again. So it double dips just fine."* And: *"Actually, roar buffs your Shattered Lash damage which affects the explosion, and it also buffs the explosion itself since it gives ability damage. Nourish only buffs Shattered Lash as an additional mod.."* This video was to disprove that Roar double dips, to strengthen the argument that Nourish is a better slot.
@@felix_patriot Weird that they can't just test it themselves. It actually takes just a few minutes, at most like 10 minutes of your time if you're really unsure about your test. Also very weird for aznvasions to not test it thoroughly, this also happened on his jade video where he said "Her pistols cannot trigger nor benefit from warframe pistol arcanes" he also specified her alt fire in after saying this. So he was basically saying that arcane precision does not work on her pistols, which it does. It just doesn't work on the alt fire. Idk if he worded it wrongly but it made people think that glory primary fire mode doesn't get affected by arcane precision. (had a comment saying it didn't work so I again went to the simulacrum to quintuple check even tho I was sure that it did work)
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This randomly landed in my timeline. I dont know which game this is or what tf is even going on there. Thanks youtube
aha, this is Warframe. free to play on steam so i’d recommend you try it at least once
This is Warframe! This video was actually made because of a comment thread on another video talking about the Warframe (hero thing) featured in this video!
I saw you subd to me, literally thinking whats wrong with Gara thinking of this as one of the two problems, well, well, well...
Yeah this video was mainly to support the case that Nourish is a much better subsume than Roar for Gara, even for Vitrify nukes.
Roar will do more damage per individual vitrify nuke than Nourish still when you compare them 1:1, but Nourish solves her energy problems allowing her to cast so many more Vitrifies than the Roar build, and mod more into strength, that overall Nourish is just more DPS.
@@felix_patriot I got mad with the "Gara issues" and just redo my video and added build where I just use roar and stack my storm and just keep it up, walk up to something = dead, and ngl I love that vibe, like walking and just killing everything with it once stacked xD
Just stacking would be so much faster...
So i should use the same build with nourish but change the energy mod for strength and or duratio
Correct
The math looks about right, from what I'm seeing you're not procing any DoT status effects so it shouldn't even be double dipping. It's single dipping as intended. (I may have missed something? But I'm pretty dumb sometimes haha)
This video was in response to a comment string on AznvasionsPlays' Gara build yesterday, trying to justify why Nourish is a better option to Roar.
I typed:
*Your roar is only a 1.6x damage buff. You're not doing any DoT's so it's not double dipping on anything. Lets just pretend that Nourish gives no elemental damage buff. Nourish will improve your energy economy so much that you can dump Fleeting. That not only frees up a mod slot which could be spent on strength i.e. from Transient or Umbral Intensify, but also makes the duration significantly more comfy. This also frees up a shard slot which can be spent on additional casting speed. I'd wager you're going to have enough additional energy income, casting speed and strength, that you can sustainably spam so many more Vitrify nukes that you'll out-DPS the Roar build (on top of being additionally comfy). And that's not even considerate of the Viral weapon damage buff. Casting additional Vitrifys was in the game plan anyway to leverage Shattered Storm. The Nourish build could also lean into Combat Discipline to pulse Viral, priming enemies in a decently sized AOE around the caster for double damage. Nourish, unlike Roar, will also actually increase how fast your 2 stacks up touch-of-death damage too. A 1.6x damage mult is a good option, but certainly not the best when you consider how Nourish can drastically affect and reshape so many elements of the build. Also, why not use Ceramic Dagger whenever it's evolution also has +100% melee damage, and it can easily accrue tonnes of initial combo instead of needing to slot Rauta?*
And other people responded:
*"Roar buffs your explosion damage and splinter storm gain. It buffs the damaged splinter storm does while it's active again. So it double dips just fine."*
And:
*"Actually, roar buffs your Shattered Lash damage which affects the explosion, and it also buffs the explosion itself since it gives ability damage. Nourish only buffs Shattered Lash as an additional mod.."*
This video was to disprove that Roar double dips, to strengthen the argument that Nourish is a better slot.
@@felix_patriot Weird that they can't just test it themselves. It actually takes just a few minutes, at most like 10 minutes of your time if you're really unsure about your test.
Also very weird for aznvasions to not test it thoroughly, this also happened on his jade video where he said "Her pistols cannot trigger nor benefit from warframe pistol arcanes" he also specified her alt fire in after saying this. So he was basically saying that arcane precision does not work on her pistols, which it does. It just doesn't work on the alt fire. Idk if he worded it wrongly but it made people think that glory primary fire mode doesn't get affected by arcane precision. (had a comment saying it didn't work so I again went to the simulacrum to quintuple check even tho I was sure that it did work)
@@AniUniX Tbf, Azn just put up the Roar build, this little argument is between different commenters under the vid alone.
Does nourish increase vitrify damage? by how much? i wanna test it but i dont have those helminth yet.
no no no. wrong wrong wrong. You didn't warframe right.