Jesus! just completely speechless with Bill Maher. The one resounding voice of true reasoning in this country comes from a comedian. Woke is bad + there are good Republicans. Is something you will never hear in one sentence.
"There is no darkness but ignorance." - Shakespeare, Twelfth Night. Go to college if you can, but be careful thinking that it's going to land you a job because it probably won't, especially if you're not going to professionalize yourself by obtaining a graduate degree. Instead, think of your undergrad as a way to learn how to think critically with logic and reason and express yourself in the same manner. It should also inspire a drive for lifelong learning to bring you out of the darkness and into the light.
@@thefeldgeister2961 thank you for explaining what I’ve been trying to say. As my grandmother said, I don’t care if you get a job digging a ditch, but still need something to think about while you’re doing it.
Spoken like a Professor! Yes, often it is difficult to get young people to build critical thinking and logical skills built on quantitative reasoning and taking abstract concepts and demonstrating how they connect. Education allows you to think beyond just doing a repeated job or just knowing what is only in front of your face as Plato suggested in his hugely brilliant work called the Republic.
A good liberal arts education with extensive reading in literature, mathematics and history - what used to be a standard college's Humanities pre-major - is a very good foundation for life and one's ability to think. People like Trump tend to draw from those without the ability to see past his rhetoric and its authoritarian models in the past.
Bill does NOT say people shouldn't go to college! He says not EVERYONE should go to college. "Everyone goes" IS a big scam. College should be for the intellectually talented who love learning and can handle traditional college-level material, which 3/4 of students can't (I teach them, I know). Not everyone should try to be in the NFL, either.
You can be quite intelligent and still not have gone to college. That's the problem nowadays everyone sees that piece of paper and instantly assumes that person must be highly intelligent when in reality all they've shown is that they can complete a task.
If they cannot learn, look to early education, lack of parental support and a lax high school program. Anyone who hates to read by age 18 is not college material. Studying involves reading!
@@tonyhsloanejrtask learning is training. Cognitive thinking leads to making rational decisions in life. Learning to write effectively is usually a specific learning activity by an English professor.
Agreed. When I was in graduate school last I worked as an adjunct teacher for English and I would easily state 3/4 of students today do not have the skills. I had to write research papers starting in junior high, yet so many of my students never wrote one, or even essays. Their grammar was very poor as well.
I’m glad I went to college Bill, lt gave me confidence and strengthen my ability to look outside the box. I did poorly in high school and teachers didn’t believe in me. It’s not a scam, education is awesome, college needs to be cheaper. Trump is extremely dangerous, permanently say good bye to democracy in the U.S.! I would vote a can of soup before voting for Trump.
College liberal arts helps in English comprehension, thought processing, writing, spelling, composition, and the ability to speak clearly. Not everyone gets literacy at home and lack of it can actually limit the scope of employment available to one. For me, college was a wonderful experience.
Bill Maher is absolutely correct about the complete and utter uselessness of a college degree for most jobs in the economy that actually exist. Although I have a college degree, it was never useful for work I have done throughout my life. I could have done all these jobs straight out of seventh grade (yes I was very talented and hard working). Although I often agree with Bill, I would like to correct a misstatement he made. In fact, a college degree is NOT required for admission into medical, law, optometry, or pharmacy school. You can fact-check that with any school offering these degrees (a good source is the book entitled, "Medical School Admission Requirements" which an associate gave me when I was an undergraduate at U. C. Berkeley). It clearly states that a Bachelor's degree is NOT required for admission. You need the equivalent of the first two years of U.S. higher education, which many high school students can take through A.P. courses, or taking the relevant courses at a junior college at night or during summers while attending high school. The fact that most students and their parents don't verify this admission requirement is why they are bamboozled into bachelor degree programs, which are useless. One commentator below mentioned that one of their children was passed over for a job for lack of having a bachelor's degree. Although most jobs don't require a degree for actually doing the job, Human Resources departments often weed out people who don't have one. That does not mean the job couldn't be done without the degree (but instead with one to two months worth of on-the-job training). Only that H.R. departments ask for one; but H.R. people are not the ones actually doing the job, they are just "reading their lines" during the interview.
I won't say Mr Maher is right or wrong about college/university but my case, he's absolutely right. I graduated with a BA in Public Administration and I minored in Philosphy. During school, I worked as a tire tech for a major retailer. I never used ny degree. In that job, I met people in that industry who helped, encouraged and now patronize my two undercarriage car repair shops (tires, brakes, exhaust, and suspension). I thought i needed a degree to work in government. Not be a small businessman now in my 28th year.
I don’t wanna be this guy but you couldn’t possibly think going to school for what you went for would be a good idea. Public Administration, really? You could probably go to community college while working a job to completely pay for it and then start working in that field when you finish and maybe get your degree if you are looking for a promotion. But to pay I’m guessing around $80k-120k for a degree in basically public service is crazy to me. Get a finance degree or an engineering degree or psychology if you want a degree
@Joe-wq6te you assume too much. I actually was on scholarship and worked to pay for an apartment and living expenses. To add, the average salary at that time was 80k to 100k a year for a small to medium size city or county (30 years ago). Also. At that time, my state gave public employees a full retirement after 25 years of hired before 2004. Was a smart move then but it's here or there now. I'm my own boss.
@@on2wheels378 that’s you but most people now cant do that cuz everything costs more. Just an example is the average cost of a house in the 60s cost around $70-80k now it’s around $270-300k if not higher and in that time income has only increased roughly 15% so the math just doesn’t add up. People can’t go to school on a $30k/year tuition, pay off loans and buy a house by 30 now. It’s just too hard to do
No, what he’s saying is true. Kids are told by elders that college is the key to better jobs….but many if not most find themselves deeply in debt for a job they never get. Or go in debt for a job they could do without all those classes. Remember, most majors only focus 1/3 of the hours on that major, the rest is repeating high school and taking electives. So 2/3 of that $40k expenditure is wasted.
I see dozens of kids going to school because it’s not cool not to have a degree. Most go in without a plan. They’re 50-60k in the hole before they know it without a plan out.
We do a great job convincing kids to go to college. We do a terrible job explaining WHY they need to go. Without a plan going in you're destined to rack up debt and graduate 6-7 years later. Meanwhile the kid that went to trade school is making a decent living in those 6-7 years and is already way ahead. Plus kids don't want to work while going to college. When I went to college it seemed like most people worked AND went to school.
@@spaceknight793 News flash--you don't have to attend a $40,000/year private college. You can go to a state university and save yourself a lot of money. Even better--complete your Gen Ed credits at a Jr. college and save tons of money.
Most colleges out there aren't teaching critical thinking skills anymore. Many refuse to implement intellectual diversity or challenge their students' opinions.
Jesus! just completely speechless with Bill Maher. The one resounding voice of true reasoning in this country comes from a comedian. Woke is bad + there are good Republicans. Is something you will never hear in one sentence.
I graduated from college in the early 90s and immediately got a job as a flight attendant with American Airlines. Even though my degree had absolutely nothing to do with being a flight attendant, of course, I was immediately hired due to the fact that I had a college degree…whereas many others were cut or had to fight a little harder to get in. It definitely made it easier for me to get my foot in the door, even after that job. I definitely don’t see my college degree as a waste. I went to a small less expensive state college versus a lot of more expensive options. My education was just as good…and the person hiring me didn’t really care where I got the degree, but just that I had it. No student loans necessary. Just paid by semester with a little help from my parents and a part-time job. My experience in college was extremely valuable, and many way. I felt like I really learned nothing in high school but in college I actually learned how to think and how to connect ideas.
What college prepares workers for: meeting deadlines, crushing workload, organization skills, time management, critical thinking, written and verbal skills, dealing with difficult personalities (professors and future bosses), importance of friends and relatives support, finances, strategies, just to name a few. It doesn’t matter as much what the degree is as much as you had the resilience to get through four years of accomplishments/deminstrated skills and better prepared for the workplace. I am a first generation college graduate who waited late in life to get a degree. It wasn’t until college that I learned to pick battles wisely, to listen more and talk less, that every thought does not need verbalizing, civility, and to work in corporate means the importance of social skills and managing up. Learning all of these skills sooner rather than later helps to reach goals faster; and more importantly, at least $20k more in annual income than non college workers and their school of hard knocks over a longer period.
I graduated college over 40 years ago. In that time I have only worked for one company who had the intellectual brain power I saw on campus. Most companies I have been at have the thinking capacity of a bowl of gruel.
Would you like to live in a society where everyone is a teacher/doctor/nurse/engineer/lawyer? Those people need degrees, but they have always been and will continue to be a small part of the population.
I don't know about the return on getting a college degree. A union electrician or plumber. I should have done that. Some kind of government job. I'd still be working.
College isn't what it used to be. You are better off now going into the trades. Now if you want to go into a STEM field, then you still need a degree. I went to college and sorry I did, never worked a job in my major nor a job that even required one.
@@JackieDaytona1776 One understands the sentiment but it is unrealistic. College degrees are unnecessary, but the experience is not, and even that isn't enough often. When Bill runs the modern economy rather than saying words, we can take his opinion more seriously as he is hiring less than 99.9 percent worth the workforce. His gripe should be with workforce hiring practices rather than college.
I think we need to encourage curiosity more than anything in the educational system. Unfortunately, the way the system is designed now, which is based on test scores, pretty much discourages curiosity. College is good for kids, but we shouldn't teach kids that putting their heads down and studying is the best way through college. I was an English major in college, but it was my side-work as a freelance videographer that began through connections I made in college that led me to start my own business and get me in the career I'm in today. I know too many of my peers who thought that putting their head down and just working on their degree would lead to a fruitful job and career, and it doesn't often work that way. The issue is not them, the issue is that they were taught that that was the right thing to be doing in college.
Bill Maher is great. I love him and his show. But he does not speak for anyone but himself, and some of the time he shoots off his mouth about stuff he has no idea about. He has some arguments, criticism of our university system that is certainly useless and corrupt for some - but that is not an argument for most people to avoid college. There is a good argument for America to revamp how we do education. That we have not figured out how to utilize the Internet effectively STILL is a big problem. We should have the best, most flexible and cheapest educational system in the world while instead we have a disasterous corrupt one.
You mistake his manner for his content. He is constantly admitting to his limits and correcting himself. He's just not meek and weasely about it. Half the "Kumbaya" people turn into wolves if you cross them. Deeds and content, not presentation.
He's not saying that the small number of people who can HANDLE a difficult liberal-arts curriculum shouldn't go. Most people are not up to it. And in fact plumbers make three times what the average cubicle-dwelling BA does. The problem is this, plus the colleges have radically dumbed themselves down to pander to students and get money, so the CONTENT of a college education for most is definitely corrupted (I taught in college for years and the degradation was appalling).
He went and graduated college at a time when Degrees still meant something. Times have changed since. Too many people with degrees thus driving down wages for white collar jobs. Too many degree holders mean a race to the bottom.
Totally disagree about college education. It was my ticket to a profession and out of poverty. Also, I was introduced to a much wider world and ideas. Sorry, Bill though I enjoy you shows and commentary, not with you on this concept.
I went to college, and it was my ticket TO POVERTY. Have never had a job that required one nor one that related to my major. I used to be all about going to college, the problem it everyone is encouraged to go to college and there is an oversupply of graduates, not enough jobs to go around and thus driving down wages of traditional white collar jobs
I didn't watch this segment and I quit watching Maher years ago - he used to be funny and thought provoking but now he just comes across as bitter and self-righteous.
Your degree probably helped you to make right decisions and not sound like you fell off a turnip truck. Speaking intelligibly is so worth those extra 4 years.
Bill Maher was a double major in English and History at Cornell University earning a BA in 1978. I wonder if he’s just bashing college because he has made it?? College saved my life and I think it’s very dangerous to be putting this kind of energy out there, especially to young vulnerable kids. Just because students are voluntarily taking out all of these loans. I didn’t touch a loan at all, I studied hard and got scholarships, Pell grants, and financial aid. No DEI!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Maher
This hypocrite got a history degree from Cornell. How's that helpful when it comes to being a second-rate standup comedian? And, from his own admission, he sold pot to pay his way through school. He's about two decades older than me and I'm sure school was much cheaper. The undergraduate school I attended in the 1990s costs twice as much than when I attended. I'm a believer that those of us, who receive help, shouldn't yank the ladder away from those on their way up. Apparently, Mr. Maher doesn't think that way. It's been said that you tell what a person's priorities are by how they spend their money. And, if you look at how this country spends its money, we prioritize oil and farm subsidies for business and tax cuts for the rich over feeding the poor and educating its citizens which is a damn shame. According to people like Mr. Maher, I guess that's alright too.
The fact that he gaslights us into saying he hasn't changed is so frustrating. He's had multiple iterations over the years. It's fine to change your opinion. Stop trying to convince us you haven't.
Developed critical thinking skills, an advanced grasp of scientific and mathematic principals, reading and writing skills, sociology, technology, fine arts and math…and the credentials to earn more $$ Right, a complete waste of time.
Love CBS Sunday Morning. I even like Maher's show Real Time when he has good, thoughtful guests, which is not always the case. Maher himself I've grown tired of because despite his dripping with opinionated arrogance, he often doesn't know what he's talking about, including what really happens at colleges. I attended a great liberal arts college and have taught at 4 very good universities for almost 40 years and 99.999% of the activities are NOT the kind of foolishness that he thinks is going on everywhere all the time. He doesn't seem to realize that it has been a concerted project by the Far Right to wildly exaggerate isolated examples of intolerance or "political correctness", which are hardly things associated only with colleges. And Maher has uncritically just accepted those right-wing depictions as gospel. Kind of ironic for someone so opposed to all forms of faith-- who's the one being irrational now, Bill?
@@masterchinese28 I'm not capable of speaking. So I never talk to them. Because I can't. I have an app that can talk for me but I have no reason to talk to these hungry peasants.
Well if you have to go to college to make significantly more money than sounds to me that college is in fact necessary. Now should it be that way? That’s up for debate. But as long as the first statement is true then you had better go to college in most cases
He's absolutely right. A college education does NOT make a person intelligent. Look at most politicians! Almost all the young people I know who are recent college graduates are not working in their fields. They learned on the job. I have forgotten 99% of what I learned in college and most of what I did learn was obsolete by the time I graduated. So, what is the point? Children should be encouraged by their parents and teachers when they are young to love learning and reading. They will learn more by independent research than learning by rote memorization and forgetting everything after taking a test. As someone who owned a business, some of my brightest workers did not have a college education and some of the stupidest with no common sense were college graduates.
I’ll never forget Jay Leno stopping college graduates as they exited with degree in hand. He would ask them basic questions which most grade or middle school students can answer. Few of them answered correctly.
I like Bill but let's not forget that he has a degree from Cornell in English and history which certainly helps him in his career field and his current occupation.
If college had not become FAR TOO EXPENSIVE, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Put a big price-tag on something, and everyone expects it to guarantee you a big pay-back immediately. Make something more affordable, and people will expect other things besides a big immediate pay back. But also: most people go to community colleges and more of them find ways to get an education that is more focused on the actual job market--EVERY COLLEGE isn't Harvard, and every SUBJECT isn't "Gender Studies"--let's stop exaggerating and oversimplifying everything, PLEASE!!!
He's right, not everyone should attend. I love school and I have been going on and off for many years due to a job switch. However, the job I work in requires this (I switched fields to become a therapist). While in college and/or graduate school I encountered these situations: Students who were barely literate, including a student who could only do assignments on PowerPoint; classes that were a waste of time, such as many general education classes that were stupid (I had a class where we had to discuss our feelings, this was an art class). Way too "woke". Don't get me wrong, I am a liberal but many of the classes had to do with making excuses why some are struggling in classes. Sorry, but your race has nothing to do with the fact you can't add and subtract and write papers. My parents never attended college and never struggled to find good jobs, yet now most of those jobs require degrees. Meanwhile loans are out of control and so are college tuition, and many students are broke due to getting a loan for a field that used to not require a degree, and perhaps is not high paying.
The elee=ction wasn't rigged? I bet Bill has not looked at the evidence I have. Ditto Russian hoax and laptop coverup. Bill dare you to hold the smarm and smoke some hash with me. I will open your eyes Bubbaleh.
More alarming than what we saw last night at the debate? Please, Bill, we have a candidate who should be in elderly care and is being abused by his family and the leftwing media.
I always thought that its been the issue and is a outdated idea. No real path no desire to find a major and then find " a job". Years of kids lost at age 18. Get career and vocational counseling to see where you fit in the universe. All the issues we feared are coming true; we are lost chasing the American dream based on late 60s ideas.The be better than your parents and keep up with Jones' is an old idea. It was failing since the 80s. Vocational pursuits...
I like Bill Maher as a comedian but he is an entertainer, not someone who speaks for higher education. Anyone who has watched his show knows he uses false equivalencies, straw man arguments and doesn't seem to understand the difference between anecdotal and statical evidence. Funny guy but not to be taken too seriously.
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Jesus! just completely speechless with Bill Maher. The one resounding voice of true reasoning in this country comes from a comedian.
Woke is bad + there are good Republicans. Is something you will never hear in one sentence.
"There is no darkness but ignorance." - Shakespeare, Twelfth Night. Go to college if you can, but be careful thinking that it's going to land you a job because it probably won't, especially if you're not going to professionalize yourself by obtaining a graduate degree. Instead, think of your undergrad as a way to learn how to think critically with logic and reason and express yourself in the same manner. It should also inspire a drive for lifelong learning to bring you out of the darkness and into the light.
Well spoken.....🙂
It's very simple actually ❤
@@thefeldgeister2961 thank you for explaining what I’ve been trying to say. As my grandmother said, I don’t care if you get a job digging a ditch, but still need something to think about while you’re doing it.
Spoken like a Professor! Yes, often it is difficult to get young people to build critical thinking and logical skills built on quantitative reasoning and taking abstract concepts and demonstrating how they connect. Education allows you to think beyond just doing a repeated job or just knowing what is only in front of your face as Plato suggested in his hugely brilliant work called the Republic.
A good liberal arts education with extensive reading in literature, mathematics and history - what used to be a standard college's Humanities pre-major - is a very good foundation for life and one's ability to think. People like Trump tend to draw from those without the ability to see past his rhetoric and its authoritarian models in the past.
You may think you know it all, but trust me, you don't
You couldn't stop yourself, just couldn't. The TDS burns inside you. lol
Jealousy and stupidity are hard to combat. So, enjoy your attributes for the rest of your life !
@@victorblock3421 There is no such thing as TDS
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Bill does NOT say people shouldn't go to college! He says not EVERYONE should go to college. "Everyone goes" IS a big scam. College should be for the intellectually talented who love learning and can handle traditional college-level material, which 3/4 of students can't (I teach them, I know). Not everyone should try to be in the NFL, either.
You can be quite intelligent and still not have gone to college. That's the problem nowadays everyone sees that piece of paper and instantly assumes that person must be highly intelligent when in reality all they've shown is that they can complete a task.
If they cannot learn, look to early education, lack of parental support and a lax high school program. Anyone who hates to read by age 18 is not college material. Studying involves reading!
@@tonyhsloanejrtask learning is training. Cognitive thinking leads to making rational decisions in life. Learning to write effectively is usually a specific learning activity by an English professor.
Agreed. When I was in graduate school last I worked as an adjunct teacher for English and I would easily state 3/4 of students today do not have the skills. I had to write research papers starting in junior high, yet so many of my students never wrote one, or even essays. Their grammar was very poor as well.
@@tonyhsloanejrSo true.
I’m glad I went to college Bill, lt gave me confidence and strengthen my ability to look outside the box. I did poorly in high school and teachers didn’t believe in me. It’s not a scam, education is awesome, college needs to be cheaper. Trump is extremely dangerous, permanently say good bye to democracy in the U.S.! I would vote a can of soup before voting for Trump.
"Progreso, Libby's or Campbell's"....😂
We need more middle opinions, thanks Bill
College liberal arts helps in English comprehension, thought processing, writing, spelling, composition, and the ability to speak clearly. Not everyone gets literacy at home and lack of it can actually limit the scope of employment available to one. For me, college was a wonderful experience.
Bill Maher is absolutely correct about the complete and utter uselessness of a college degree for most jobs in the economy that actually exist. Although I have a college degree, it was never useful for work I have done throughout my life. I could have done all these jobs straight out of seventh grade (yes I was very talented and hard working).
Although I often agree with Bill, I would like to correct a misstatement he made. In fact, a college degree is NOT required for admission into medical, law, optometry, or pharmacy school. You can fact-check that with any school offering these degrees (a good source is the book entitled, "Medical School Admission Requirements" which an associate gave me when I was an undergraduate at U. C. Berkeley). It clearly states that a Bachelor's degree is NOT required for admission. You need the equivalent of the first two years of U.S. higher education, which many high school students can take through A.P. courses, or taking the relevant courses at a junior college at night or during summers while attending high school. The fact that most students and their parents don't verify this admission requirement is why they are bamboozled into bachelor degree programs, which are useless.
One commentator below mentioned that one of their children was passed over for a job for lack of having a bachelor's degree. Although most jobs don't require a degree for actually doing the job, Human Resources departments often weed out people who don't have one. That does not mean the job couldn't be done without the degree (but instead with one to two months worth of on-the-job training). Only that H.R. departments ask for one; but H.R. people are not the ones actually doing the job, they are just "reading their lines" during the interview.
I won't say Mr Maher is right or wrong about college/university but my case, he's absolutely right. I graduated with a BA in Public Administration and I minored in Philosphy.
During school, I worked as a tire tech for a major retailer.
I never used ny degree. In that job, I met people in that industry who helped, encouraged and now patronize my two undercarriage car repair shops (tires, brakes, exhaust, and suspension).
I thought i needed a degree to work in government. Not be a small businessman now in my 28th year.
I don’t wanna be this guy but you couldn’t possibly think going to school for what you went for would be a good idea. Public Administration, really? You could probably go to community college while working a job to completely pay for it and then start working in that field when you finish and maybe get your degree if you are looking for a promotion. But to pay I’m guessing around $80k-120k for a degree in basically public service is crazy to me. Get a finance degree or an engineering degree or psychology if you want a degree
@Joe-wq6te you assume too much. I actually was on scholarship and worked to pay for an apartment and living expenses.
To add, the average salary at that time was 80k to 100k a year for a small to medium size city or county (30 years ago). Also. At that time, my state gave public employees a full retirement after 25 years of hired before 2004. Was a smart move then but it's here or there now. I'm my own boss.
@@on2wheels378 that’s you but most people now cant do that cuz everything costs more. Just an example is the average cost of a house in the 60s cost around $70-80k now it’s around $270-300k if not higher and in that time income has only increased roughly 15% so the math just doesn’t add up. People can’t go to school on a $30k/year tuition, pay off loans and buy a house by 30 now. It’s just too hard to do
@Joe-wq6te I posted my experience. I never said go into public service you wrote that advice not to. Like I wrote, you assume too much.
@Joe-wq6te exactly, it's me. I don't why you feel to say it isn't for others. Me helper
Saying college is worthless is just as silly as saying if you don’t have a degree you’re worthless. Like most things, you get out what you put in.
It is worthless now cause all colleges are doing is resting communists and leftists instead of educating students and critical thinking
No, what he’s saying is true. Kids are told by elders that college is the key to better jobs….but many if not most find themselves deeply in debt for a job they never get. Or go in debt for a job they could do without all those classes. Remember, most majors only focus 1/3 of the hours on that major, the rest is repeating high school and taking electives. So 2/3 of that $40k expenditure is wasted.
I see dozens of kids going to school because it’s not cool not to have a degree. Most go in without a plan. They’re 50-60k in the hole before they know it without a plan out.
We do a great job convincing kids to go to college. We do a terrible job explaining WHY they need to go. Without a plan going in you're destined to rack up debt and graduate 6-7 years later. Meanwhile the kid that went to trade school is making a decent living in those 6-7 years and is already way ahead. Plus kids don't want to work while going to college. When I went to college it seemed like most people worked AND went to school.
@@spaceknight793 News flash--you don't have to attend a $40,000/year private college. You can go to a state university and save yourself a lot of money. Even better--complete your Gen Ed credits at a Jr. college and save tons of money.
I'm against stupidity like his, critical thinking is needed more than ever
He's a funny guy but I agree about his critical thinking skills. I grind my teeth watching him at times as he dishes out logical fallacies.
Most colleges out there aren't teaching critical thinking skills anymore. Many refuse to implement intellectual diversity or challenge their students' opinions.
@@Zadok8611 epistemology is taught in nearly every University in the US. It’s an elective unless you are a philosophy major.
Bill Maher for president!!!! God bless that man.
Jesus! just completely speechless with Bill Maher. The one resounding voice of true reasoning in this country comes from a comedian.
Woke is bad + there are good Republicans. Is something you will never hear in one sentence.
I graduated from college in the early 90s and immediately got a job as a flight attendant with American Airlines. Even though my degree had absolutely nothing to do with being a flight attendant, of course, I was immediately hired due to the fact that I had a college degree…whereas many others were cut or had to fight a little harder to get in. It definitely made it easier for me to get my foot in the door, even after that job. I definitely don’t see my college degree as a waste. I went to a small less expensive state college versus a lot of more expensive options. My education was just as good…and the person hiring me didn’t really care where I got the degree, but just that I had it. No student loans necessary. Just paid by semester with a little help from my parents and a part-time job. My experience in college was extremely valuable, and many way. I felt like I really learned nothing in high school but in college I actually learned how to think and how to connect ideas.
So frustrating - we never get the full story from any news anchors.
What college prepares workers for: meeting deadlines, crushing workload, organization skills, time management, critical thinking, written and verbal skills, dealing with difficult personalities (professors and future bosses), importance of friends and relatives support, finances, strategies, just to name a few. It doesn’t matter as much what the degree is as much as you had the resilience to get through four years of accomplishments/deminstrated skills and better prepared for the workplace.
I am a first generation college graduate who waited late in life to get a degree. It wasn’t until college that I learned to pick battles wisely, to listen more and talk less, that every thought does not need verbalizing, civility, and to work in corporate means the importance of social skills and managing up. Learning all of these skills sooner rather than later helps to reach goals faster; and more importantly, at least $20k more in annual income than non college workers and their school of hard knocks over a longer period.
Would you like your teacher/ doctor/ nurse/ engineer/ lawyer to have no higher education?
Exactly correct.
I graduated college over 40 years ago. In that time I have only worked for one company who had the intellectual brain power I saw on campus. Most companies I have been at have the thinking capacity of a bowl of gruel.
Now you’re just being silly. Of course not.
Would you like to live in a society where everyone is a teacher/doctor/nurse/engineer/lawyer?
Those people need degrees, but they have always been and will continue to be a small part of the population.
Those are the only ones that need college lol so if that’s not your field , what’s the point ?
I don't know about the return on getting a college degree. A union electrician or plumber. I should have done that. Some kind of government job. I'd still be working.
TRUE, Perhaps yet U should be PROUD of Urself for U chose NADA to be a follower/red-taper.....
College isn't what it used to be. You are better off now going into the trades. Now if you want to go into a STEM field, then you still need a degree. I went to college and sorry I did, never worked a job in my major nor a job that even required one.
A good follow up question would be Why is the right so alarming?
Exactly! The Right isn’t burning it all down like the Left seems to be trying…
How convenient it is for Bill Maher, and Ivy League Graduate, to tell others not to become educated.
I'm against Bill Maher
You're not getting his point.
@@JackieDaytona1776 No I got his "point". Perhaps your not getting MY POINT......
@@jpdurr why are you mad at me about it?
@@JackieDaytona1776 One understands the sentiment but it is unrealistic. College degrees are unnecessary, but the experience is not, and even that isn't enough often. When Bill runs the modern economy rather than saying words, we can take his opinion more seriously as he is hiring less than 99.9 percent worth the workforce. His gripe should be with workforce hiring practices rather than college.
For sure. Close the door behind you and remove the ladder after climbing! Typical privilege-speak!
I think we need to encourage curiosity more than anything in the educational system. Unfortunately, the way the system is designed now, which is based on test scores, pretty much discourages curiosity. College is good for kids, but we shouldn't teach kids that putting their heads down and studying is the best way through college. I was an English major in college, but it was my side-work as a freelance videographer that began through connections I made in college that led me to start my own business and get me in the career I'm in today. I know too many of my peers who thought that putting their head down and just working on their degree would lead to a fruitful job and career, and it doesn't often work that way. The issue is not them, the issue is that they were taught that that was the right thing to be doing in college.
My mom told me college would be the place I'd find myself, I hated being ignored by her
Bill Maher is great. I love him and his show. But he does not speak for anyone but himself, and some of the time he shoots off his mouth about stuff he has no idea about. He has some arguments, criticism of our university system that is certainly useless and corrupt for some - but that is not an argument for most people to avoid college. There is a good argument for America to revamp how we do education. That we have not figured out how to utilize the Internet effectively STILL is a big problem. We should have the best, most flexible and cheapest educational system in the world while instead we have a disasterous corrupt one.
This guy is so pompous and obnoxious. He thinks he’s way smarter than he actually is
You mistake his manner for his content. He is constantly admitting to his limits and correcting himself. He's just not meek and weasely about it. Half the "Kumbaya" people turn into wolves if you cross them. Deeds and content, not presentation.
Another case of 'do as I say not as I do':
Maher attended Cornell University, where he double-majored in English and history, and graduated in 1978.
The world has changed since 1978.
He's not saying that the small number of people who can HANDLE a difficult liberal-arts curriculum shouldn't go. Most people are not up to it. And in fact plumbers make three times what the average cubicle-dwelling BA does. The problem is this, plus the colleges have radically dumbed themselves down to pander to students and get money, so the CONTENT of a college education for most is definitely corrupted (I taught in college for years and the degradation was appalling).
He went and graduated college at a time when Degrees still meant something. Times have changed since. Too many people with degrees thus driving down wages for white collar jobs. Too many degree holders mean a race to the bottom.
Totally disagree about college education. It was my ticket to a profession and out of poverty. Also, I was introduced to a much wider world and ideas. Sorry, Bill though I enjoy you shows and commentary, not with you on this concept.
I went to college, and it was my ticket TO POVERTY. Have never had a job that required one nor one that related to my major. I used to be all about going to college, the problem it everyone is encouraged to go to college and there is an oversupply of graduates, not enough jobs to go around and thus driving down wages of traditional white collar jobs
🎼 COMEDIAN HERO. 🎸
I didn't watch this segment and I quit watching Maher years ago - he used to be funny and thought provoking but now he just comes across as bitter and self-righteous.
Always be curious and seek.
Give us the whole interview, not just a few quick cuts.
You are just witty!
Your degree probably helped you to make right decisions and not sound like you fell off a turnip truck. Speaking intelligibly is so worth those extra 4 years.
Bill Maher was a double major in English and History at Cornell University earning a BA in 1978. I wonder if he’s just bashing college because he has made it?? College saved my life and I think it’s very dangerous to be putting this kind of energy out there, especially to young vulnerable kids. Just because students are voluntarily taking out all of these loans. I didn’t touch a loan at all, I studied hard and got scholarships, Pell grants, and financial aid. No DEI!!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Maher
This hypocrite got a history degree from Cornell. How's that helpful when it comes to being a second-rate standup comedian? And, from his own admission, he sold pot to pay his way through school. He's about two decades older than me and I'm sure school was much cheaper. The undergraduate school I attended in the 1990s costs twice as much than when I attended. I'm a believer that those of us, who receive help, shouldn't yank the ladder away from those on their way up. Apparently, Mr. Maher doesn't think that way.
It's been said that you tell what a person's priorities are by how they spend their money. And, if you look at how this country spends its money, we prioritize oil and farm subsidies for business and tax cuts for the rich over feeding the poor and educating its citizens which is a damn shame. According to people like Mr. Maher, I guess that's alright too.
The fact that he gaslights us into saying he hasn't changed is so frustrating. He's had multiple iterations over the years.
It's fine to change your opinion. Stop trying to convince us you haven't.
What the heck kind of chairs are they sitting in?
Developed critical
thinking skills, an advanced grasp of scientific and mathematic principals, reading and writing skills, sociology, technology, fine arts and math…and the credentials to earn more $$
Right, a complete waste of time.
The problem with the paper flower system they collect too much dust
LOOK. WORK IS STRUCTURE
ITS LIKE SCHOOL WITH A PAYWEEK
Didn't he go to a college and earn a degree from it? He went to Cornell, an Ivy League University. He's an English major for Christ's sake.
Times have changed since he went and graduated. It meant something when he went, nowadays it doesn't.
College doesn’t solve everything but education sure solves a lot
My son has been passed over because he doesn’t have a degree.
Love CBS Sunday Morning. I even like Maher's show Real Time when he has good, thoughtful guests, which is not always the case. Maher himself I've grown tired of because despite his dripping with opinionated arrogance, he often doesn't know what he's talking about, including what really happens at colleges. I attended a great liberal arts college and have taught at 4 very good universities for almost 40 years and 99.999% of the activities are NOT the kind of foolishness that he thinks is going on everywhere all the time. He doesn't seem to realize that it has been a concerted project by the Far Right to wildly exaggerate isolated examples of intolerance or "political correctness", which are hardly things associated only with colleges. And Maher has uncritically just accepted those right-wing depictions as gospel. Kind of ironic for someone so opposed to all forms of faith-- who's the one being irrational now, Bill?
I went to college for 16 years.
Now I deliver pizza.
16 years??
I believe it
@@HereticHillbilly
17 if you count lunch.
Do customers give bigger tips when you tell them how much education you have?
@@masterchinese28
I'm not capable of speaking.
So I never talk to them.
Because I can't.
I have an app that can talk for me but I have no reason to talk to these hungry peasants.
where the full interview??
Well if you have to go to college to make significantly more money than sounds to me that college is in fact necessary. Now should it be that way? That’s up for debate. But as long as the first statement is true then you had better go to college in most cases
He's absolutely right. A college education does NOT make a person intelligent. Look at most politicians! Almost all the young people I know who are recent college graduates are not working in their fields. They learned on the job. I have forgotten 99% of what I learned in college and most of what I did learn was obsolete by the time I graduated. So, what is the point? Children should be encouraged by their parents and teachers when they are young to love learning and reading. They will learn more by independent research than learning by rote memorization and forgetting everything after taking a test. As someone who owned a business, some of my brightest workers did not have a college education and some of the stupidest with no common sense were college graduates.
Bill is mostly wrong about a college education. It’s easy to prove by those of us who work with those who have it, and those who don’t.
If known plenty of incompetent and unqualified college grads. Depends on the degree and their intellectual maturity.
Biggest mistake was Merrick Garland waiting to go after the man who sent an armed mob to the Capitol.
Now, after almost 4 years, still no trial.
When Maher gets it wrong, he REALLY gets it wrong
It’s giving bitter
Bill Marr needs to move to Louisiana and he would be running back to California screaming in terror!
I’m not a fan of bill maher, he’s neither funny nor smart.
I’ll never forget Jay Leno stopping college graduates as they exited with degree in hand. He would ask them basic questions which most grade or middle school students can answer. Few of them answered correctly.
I like Bill but let's not forget that he has a degree from Cornell in English and history which certainly helps him in his career field and his current occupation.
If college had not become FAR TOO EXPENSIVE, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Put a big price-tag on something, and everyone expects it to guarantee you a big pay-back immediately. Make something more affordable, and people will expect other things besides a big immediate pay back. But also: most people go to community colleges and more of them find ways to get an education that is more focused on the actual job market--EVERY COLLEGE isn't Harvard, and every SUBJECT isn't "Gender Studies"--let's stop exaggerating and oversimplifying everything, PLEASE!!!
No surprised he's against a college education, as he has never been well read or broadly informed.
Compromise is not a four letter word…
bill = sponsored by aipac!
Those flowers could have smell just by spraying a little bit of perfume of the flower that it is
Simple as that it would fool everybody
He's right, not everyone should attend. I love school and I have been going on and off for many years due to a job switch. However, the job I work in requires this (I switched fields to become a therapist). While in college and/or graduate school I encountered these situations: Students who were barely literate, including a student who could only do assignments on PowerPoint; classes that were a waste of time, such as many general education classes that were stupid (I had a class where we had to discuss our feelings, this was an art class). Way too "woke". Don't get me wrong, I am a liberal but many of the classes had to do with making excuses why some are struggling in classes. Sorry, but your race has nothing to do with the fact you can't add and subtract and write papers. My parents never attended college and never struggled to find good jobs, yet now most of those jobs require degrees. Meanwhile loans are out of control and so are college tuition, and many students are broke due to getting a loan for a field that used to not require a degree, and perhaps is not high paying.
1st time here in decades. What happened to Charles Kuralt?
The elee=ction wasn't rigged? I bet Bill has not looked at the evidence I have. Ditto Russian hoax and laptop coverup. Bill dare you to hold the smarm and smoke some hash with me. I will open your eyes Bubbaleh.
He graduated from Cornell University !
"I speak for the normies". Good grief, how pretentious can you get? You speak for yourself, Bill. That's it.
so clearly speaking for that vast middle non-millionaire, nonjewish-tv famous class -- what an every man.
Democrats need to concentrate more on getting students to read at their Grade level.
I would love to be interviewed by Bill Maher. I will show him the new definition of boring. I like making people yawn, they don't talk as much then...
Put kennedy in
More alarming than what we saw last night at the debate? Please, Bill, we have a candidate who should be in elderly care and is being abused by his family and the leftwing media.
I think the cocaine has rotted his brain
Today's college education is in decline. It's not necessary anymore.
Stay out of my lawn intelectual
A.I. will be your education soon.
I always thought that its been the issue and is a outdated idea. No real path no desire to find a major and then find " a job". Years of kids lost at age 18. Get career and vocational counseling to see where you fit in the universe. All the issues we feared are coming true; we are lost chasing the American dream based on late 60s ideas.The be better than your parents and keep up with Jones' is an old idea. It was failing since the 80s. Vocational pursuits...
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I like Bill Maher as a comedian but he is an entertainer, not someone who speaks for higher education. Anyone who has watched his show knows he uses false equivalencies, straw man arguments and doesn't seem to understand the difference between anecdotal and statical evidence. Funny guy but not to be taken too seriously.
Poor interviewer even more poor of a put together segment. No wonder I never watch their news
He must be grifting some book or tv show and needs clicks.
Yup!
Mr t never attended classes which is why he is so limited in English.
Mayer? No, it is pronounced Mahr.
how many ways do you say it???
This whole segment was terrible and a colossal waste of time.
Bill is not funny he's a clown 🤡🐎🕳️😳😘
You don’t know everything and you don’t know how everyone feels about everything. But you act as if u do.
After Trump becomes President again Bill will have enough material to lsst thru retirement if Harris wins you can talk types of crazy laughs
Autodidactic ♡¿♡¿
Time to get rid of that annoying horn music cbs.
and move to drum bombs with everyone else
Look at the nose on Bill. Like a money lender.
free Palestine
@@ramonmoreno8014 can you offer free burger and fries with that? Or did Israel flatten gaza McDonald's?
@@victorblock3421 lol you don't even know which is which, back to 4chan son
@@ramonmoreno8014 Free Coke?
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Maher is a narcissist, Trump has never mentioned his name
You’re incorrect. Trump is a narcissist and HAS mentioned Bill.
Ohh please
Let’s list Biden’s lies
Trumps list of lies is MUCH MUCH longer.
FJB 😂
DJT for prison 2024