Is not about a contest between the Lord's beloved Apostles. Is about President's Kimball spiritual eyes being opened to clearly see the writing in the B of M that the Gospel was for blacks and white. God's Will was to be fulfilled at that time. Pres. Kimball had the right to that mission as a Prophet. Regardless of anything, Elder MacConkie presented his apologies through the Genesis Branch of the Church, and he continued been a Warrior of the Lord. How do I know that, let me share the following: In Sep 1985, the missioners were teaching me the ēGospel lessons. A series of spiritual experiences were developing, through wich I knew the Lord was in charge of my conversion. No doubt about it. On one particular night, the missionaries came to teach and brought with them a video of Elder MacConkie's last testimoni
Continue.... I watched attentively, and felt the overwhelmed power of the Holy Ghost Testimony while he spoke every word. Before my baptism I made a goal to read as many books as I could from this amazing servant of God. While I was reading "Mormon Doctrine', I felt as if the den of my home was flooded with an ocean of fire. Eventually I just not only read as many books, as I could find at D.I. stores, and other thrift stores, but I also have a play list of his videos messages. I consider Elder MacConkie one of the most powerful spiritual mentors I have had in my life as an LDS, and I always felt sad that I did not come to conversion while he was alive. One day, about 20 yrs after my conversion, and after having several spiritual experiences, among others a 1hr trip to Zion, in the visions of the night, I arrived in a far away land. I was standing at a park in a square. Across the street there was an enormous building that seemed to be in the likes of a church building and I knew I had to go across and enter the bldg. Which I proceeded to do. There was a large lobby, and from the lobby, I could hear the potent voice of a preacher. As I continued walking into a long hallway, the messenger continued preaching in a language I couldn't understand that sounded angelical. I said to myself "I know that voice, but I don't remember whose voice it is". At the end of the hallway, was the wide door that led into the chapel. I entered the enormous chapel. There were thousands of men and women dressed in their Sunday best. The ladies wore elegant hats as they do in the UK. The pews were crowded. At a distance to my right, there was an isle that divided the chapel into two equal parts. To the Left sat the women, and the men to the right. I was standing at a point where I still couldn't see the speaker. I looked to my left, to see if I could find a seat in the last pew, just as always did in the place where I was coming from. I saw an empty space in a pew where there were others sitting. I directed myself to it and sat down. Once I settled in the seat, the speaker was still speaking in a foreign language, I stretched out my head and neck to see who was the speaker, and to my astonishment, the man dressed in a suit whiter than the snow was Elder Bruce R. MacConkie. I was in shock! I couldn't believe what I was seeing! He was standing beyond a podium similar to those in the endowment room. No microphone, but he roared like a lion. He acted just like he did on earth's mortal Sphere when speaking at Conference or BYU. He was young, about early thirties. Then he stopped for a moment, and began to speak in English: "those of you who are bound to the Celestial Kingdom, stand up". From the corner of my left eye I saw something move. I looked, It was a sister that was not dressed in Sunday best clothes, but in her full Temple Attire. She was the only one to my left at a distance. I scanned the whole chapel, there was one man dressed in casual clothes standing among all the men that were sitting. I don't know if there were others in areas I couldn't see. Elder MacConkie in silence scanned the whole place, from left to right. From right to left. I asked myself how one knows that one is bound to the Celestial Kingdom? I have never heard anyone give a lesson on that topic. The minute I said that I heard a loud powerful sound coming out of the center of my upper back, a sound sort of that of a steaming engine. The Power lifted me up and placed me on my feet. A minute after Elder MacConkie moved from the podium there was a very loud sound in the whole place. Both men and women who were sitting, in unison fell to sleep, lining their heads on their left shoulders. In that moment I realized that I was dressed in my full Temple Attire. Elder MacConkie directed himself to the aisle to his right. All his mannerism was there. He went down the aisle to meet the sister that was standing to my left. They both greeted each other. I couldn't see what else was going on, because she was not that close to where I was. A minute after, he began to walk toward where I was. As he got closer we both looked at each other and smiled. As he came close to me, he stood side by side with me, I as spirit, was shoulder to shoulder with him. He placed his right arm over my shoulders, and his right hand took my right upper arm, and squeezed it a few times. I felt every squeeze. They were real. I counted each squeeze, but once I got back I didn't, and I don't remember how many. Then Elder MacConkie had us facing toward the men's side, then he extended his right pointing forward, and in front of us a vision opened up in panoramic size, and there I was, dressed in my temple attire at the head of a High Ground in the midst of a steady valley. It was a film that was the exact copy of my journey to Zion. There I was, accepting from the Lord the instructions for the journey I was about to take. After accepting the challenge I began to run like if a bill was chasing after me , holding my Temple dress skirts up a little to allow my feet to be free for the run. We watched half of the journey and the vision closed. Then Elder Mac Conkie extended his right hand again signaling the man in street clothes to come to where we were. The man smiled, and advanced forward, when suddenly he met with an invisible wall that wouldn't Let him continue. Panic took over him and began to run toward the door of the chapel exiting at once. I learned that the Saints that experience the 1hr Journey to Zion while they live on these mortal sphere will receive an inheritance in Zion if faithful to the end. In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
I grew up in the church in the early 70s and left on a mission in 1978. During this period, regardless, of what you may have read in your history books most members were against the ban on blacks and the priesthood . With all due respect Elder McConkie was a brilliant doctrine and so was his father in law Joseph Fielding Smith. No one, is perfect , including , McConkie and Smith. Elder McConkie was very standup and publicly admitted that he was wrong re his early position on blacks and the priesthood. The problem I have with your lecturer is his arrogance and his belief in the infallacy of his clearly flawed research. It may have been an impression upon the countenance of President Kimball, but it may have been an audible voice to Elder McConkie, because he had more steps to go. Yes, are you really that foolish, the majority of members certainly knew the ban was lifted and happy . We repudiated the prejudice against blacks. Wait foolish man, there are many good things in Mormon doctrine, despite the failings regarding blacks and the priesthood. I stood up against the idea of valiancy of blacks and priesthood. Also, I have equally stood up against the exact opposite view of critical race theory. The ban occured because many whites were persecuting the church because the early Church ordained black. That theory was later after the prophet Joseph and Elijah Abel. The notion which arose later and re valiance theory . I will have to agree the church did foster racism . There is no question re the issue. I am not a racist but I am not in support of black or white that adhers to racial superiority on either side. My position hasn't changed. But I am happy the membership of the church are changing.
Is not about a contest between the Lord's beloved Apostles. Is about President's Kimball spiritual eyes being opened to clearly see the writing in the B of M that the Gospel was for blacks and white. God's Will was to be fulfilled at that time. Pres. Kimball had the right to that mission as a Prophet.
Regardless of anything, Elder MacConkie presented his apologies through the Genesis Branch of the Church, and he continued been a Warrior of the Lord. How do I know that, let me share the following:
In Sep 1985, the missioners were teaching me the ēGospel lessons. A series of spiritual experiences were developing, through wich I knew the Lord was in charge of my conversion. No doubt about it.
On one particular night, the missionaries came to teach and brought with them a video of Elder MacConkie's last testimoni
Continue....
I watched attentively, and felt the overwhelmed power of the Holy Ghost Testimony while he spoke every word. Before my baptism I made a goal to read as many books as I could from this amazing servant of God. While I was reading "Mormon Doctrine', I felt as if the den of my home was flooded with an ocean of fire. Eventually I just not only read as many books, as I could find at D.I. stores, and other thrift stores, but I also have a play list of his videos messages. I consider Elder MacConkie one of the most powerful spiritual mentors I have had in my life as an LDS, and I always felt sad that I did not come to conversion while he was alive.
One day, about 20 yrs after my conversion, and after having several spiritual experiences, among others a 1hr trip to Zion, in the visions of the night, I arrived in a far away land. I was standing at a park in a square. Across the street there was an enormous building that seemed to be in the likes of a church building and I knew I had to go across and enter the bldg. Which I proceeded to do. There was a large lobby, and from the lobby, I could hear the potent voice of a preacher. As I continued walking into a long hallway, the messenger continued preaching in a language I couldn't understand that sounded angelical. I said to myself "I know that voice, but I don't remember whose voice it is". At the end of the hallway, was the wide door that led into the chapel. I entered the enormous chapel. There were thousands of men and women dressed in their Sunday best. The ladies wore elegant hats as they do in the UK. The pews were crowded. At a distance to my right, there was an isle that divided the chapel into two equal parts. To the
Left sat the women, and the men to the right. I was standing at a point where I still couldn't see the speaker. I looked to my left, to see if I could find a seat in the last pew, just as always did in the place where I was coming from. I saw an empty space in a pew where there were others sitting. I directed myself to it and sat down. Once I settled in the seat, the speaker was still speaking in a foreign language, I stretched out my head and neck to see who was the speaker, and to my astonishment, the man dressed in a suit whiter than the snow was Elder Bruce R. MacConkie. I was in shock! I couldn't believe what I was seeing! He was standing beyond a podium similar to those in the endowment room. No microphone, but he roared like a lion. He acted just like he did on earth's mortal Sphere when speaking at Conference or BYU. He was young, about early thirties. Then he stopped for a moment, and began to speak in English: "those of you who are bound to the Celestial Kingdom, stand up". From the corner of my left eye I saw something move. I looked, It was a sister that was not dressed in Sunday best clothes, but in her full Temple Attire. She was the only one to my left at a distance. I scanned the whole chapel, there was one man dressed in casual clothes standing among all the men that were sitting. I don't know if there were others in areas I couldn't see. Elder MacConkie in silence scanned the whole place, from left to right. From right to left. I asked myself how one knows that one is bound to the Celestial Kingdom? I have never heard anyone give a lesson on that topic. The minute I said that I heard a loud powerful sound coming out of the center of my upper back, a sound sort of that of a steaming engine. The Power lifted me up and placed me on my feet. A minute after Elder MacConkie moved from the podium there was a very loud sound in the whole place. Both men and women who were sitting, in unison fell to sleep, lining their heads on their left shoulders. In that moment I realized that I was dressed in my full Temple Attire.
Elder MacConkie directed himself to the aisle to his right. All his mannerism was there. He went down the aisle to meet the sister that was standing to my left. They both greeted each other. I couldn't see what else was going on, because she was not that close to where I was. A minute after, he began to walk toward where I was. As he got closer we both looked at each other and smiled. As he came close to me, he stood side by side with me, I as spirit, was shoulder to shoulder with him. He placed his right arm over my shoulders, and his right hand took my right upper arm, and squeezed it a few times. I felt every squeeze. They were real. I counted each squeeze, but once I got back I didn't, and I don't remember how many.
Then Elder MacConkie had us facing toward the men's side, then he extended his right pointing forward, and in front of us a vision opened up in panoramic size, and there I was, dressed in my temple attire at the head of a High Ground in the midst of a steady valley. It was a film that was the exact copy of my journey to Zion. There I was, accepting from the Lord the instructions for the journey I was about to take. After accepting the challenge I began to run like if a bill was chasing after me , holding my Temple dress skirts up a little to allow my feet to be free for the run. We watched half of the journey and the vision closed.
Then Elder Mac Conkie extended his right hand again signaling the man in street clothes to come to where we were. The man smiled, and advanced forward, when suddenly he met with an invisible wall that wouldn't
Let him continue. Panic took over him and began to run toward the door of the chapel exiting at once.
I learned that the Saints that experience the 1hr Journey to Zion while they live on these mortal sphere will receive an inheritance in Zion if faithful to the end. In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
They still sell Joseph Fielding Smith's Doctrines of Salvation in Deseret Industries... It has the same content
But that book is huge (3 volumes) and talk about each topic. I have that home. It's not only about blacks that it's flawed.
29:15 "EMBELLISH"????!!!! YOU MEAN LIE!!!!! Lying for The Lord?
PRE 1978, The LDS Church & The KKK were close in philosophy.
You know it's false what you say
hypocrites !!!
I grew up in the church in the early 70s and left on a mission in 1978.
During this period, regardless, of what you may have read in your history books most members were against the ban on blacks and the priesthood .
With all due respect Elder McConkie was a brilliant doctrine and so was his father in law Joseph Fielding Smith. No one, is perfect , including , McConkie and Smith. Elder McConkie was very standup and publicly admitted that he was wrong re his early position on blacks and the priesthood.
The problem I have with your lecturer is his arrogance and his belief in the infallacy of his clearly flawed research. It may have been an impression upon the countenance of President Kimball, but it may have been an audible voice to Elder McConkie, because he had more steps to go.
Yes, are you really that foolish, the majority of members certainly knew the ban was lifted and happy . We repudiated the prejudice against blacks. Wait foolish man, there are many good things in Mormon doctrine, despite the failings regarding blacks and the priesthood.
I stood up against the idea of valiancy of blacks and priesthood. Also, I have equally stood up against the exact opposite view of critical race theory. The ban occured because many whites were persecuting the church because the early Church ordained black. That theory was later after the prophet Joseph and Elijah Abel. The notion which arose later and re valiance theory . I will have to agree the church did foster racism . There is no question re the issue. I am not a racist but I am not in support of black or white that adhers to racial superiority on either side. My position hasn't changed.
But I am happy the membership of the church are changing.
It's also there is your arrogance in attacking a scholar. His research is not perfect but it's made to understand what happened.