My 1963 Corvair Monza Spyder: A Turbocharged Air-cooled Oddity

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

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  • @barberjeff67
    @barberjeff67 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love the vintage videos at the beginning and end! I had a 65 Monza 110/PG. I found that the best handling for my car is 20 in the front, 30 in the rear for air pressure. The car was fun to drive!

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  9 месяцев назад +1

      Awesome! I run similar pressures with 25 front and 35 rear and I also have a bag of sand in the trunk to weigh the front down some haha

    • @barberjeff67
      @barberjeff67 9 месяцев назад +1

      @philberto78 lol. I never tried the weight in the front. I was able to fit all of my drumset in it though!

  • @deltacx1059
    @deltacx1059 Год назад +1

    4:20 they are about the same as any other engine but with some quirks.
    Also i dont think tge early models cane with a alternator so that was put in and i think atleast that cap on the distributor is aftermarket, i think they all were boack
    I plan to put in a modern ignition system and some other nuce things.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      Yes that's one way to put it haha! Ah you have a Corvair too? Definitely get rid of those points and it will run much better. The fuel pump I got is from Clark's Corvair and it is supposed to have the exact pressure the car needs. I haven't installed it yet though.

    • @deltacx1059
      @deltacx1059 Год назад

      @@philberto78 I think it's around 6 or so psi, I might just replace the carbs with efi it bike carbs at some point. Mine is a 63 Monza.

  • @matthewjarrod2523
    @matthewjarrod2523 2 года назад +4

    There is a small company that makes a fuel injector replacement of the turbo carb. They basically took the fuel injection from the Pontiac Fiero, which is also a six (v), and tweeked it to work very nicely in a Corvair! 🙂

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +1

      It's good that people are coming up with all these alternatives to the original carburetor. I've just ordered an electronic fuel pump that's supposed to regulate fuel pressure better than the mechanical pump. Hopefully it will solve my flooding issues for good!

    • @deltacx1059
      @deltacx1059 Год назад

      ​@@philberto78be advised some fuel pumps do make too much pressure so if you get carb leaks after you put the pump in you will beed to reduce pressure.

    • @isaiahreynolds3751
      @isaiahreynolds3751 10 месяцев назад

      free food card

  • @TheAlphaOmegaX3
    @TheAlphaOmegaX3 2 года назад +1

    I LOVE these old video styles like you had at the beginning. Always attempting to show why their product is superior or why it's so "advanced" ect. Just feel like they tried more to convince you rather than just tell you. She's a beauty Phil. Old cars are awesome in many ways. Love it!

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +2

      Thanks Daniel! I pulled that video clip at the beginning of the vid from an old VHS tape I have that's full of old car commercials. They're basically old style infomercials haha! So fun to watch. My Corvair is out of commission right now but I finally figured out that it needs a different fuel pump. It runs fine for a few minutes but then floods out. I already ordered a nice electric one to replace the mechanical one so I'm just waiting for a free weekend to install it.

    • @TheAlphaOmegaX3
      @TheAlphaOmegaX3 2 года назад

      @@philberto78 Nice! It will be even better ready to start and cruise.

  • @gunrunner4747
    @gunrunner4747 Год назад +1

    I had a Spyder back in the day. My biggest problem was when it was hot and you shut it off, it would vapor lock and refuse to start.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      That's interesting, I've been unable to start mine many times as well after I've driven it around already. My problem was just flooding though. I've recently gotten a pressure sensitive electric fuel pump for it but I haven't installed it yet.

  • @FancyActionNow
    @FancyActionNow 4 года назад +3

    Pretty cool, bro! You always hit with the Auto stuff. Love the classic footage. The best American era.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  4 года назад

      Thanks buddy! I love the classic cars as you know, so much more fun to drive than cars being made now. That old GM marketing footage was pulled off an old VHS tape I have.

  • @johnhansel6351
    @johnhansel6351 3 года назад +2

    Had a 64 Monza turbo and called it my corvette chaser. It sat so low that a parking garage backed into it and creamed the front and back on day three. Put wide wheels and tires on the back, and went looking for corvettes. Great fun to pass them on curves, AND on straights. A co-worker begged me to sell it to him when I was changing jobs. Still regret doing it.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  3 года назад

      Ahh the one that got away....sounds like a sweet car man!

  • @aeolusryder7896
    @aeolusryder7896 4 года назад +1

    Great Vid Phil. Remember seeing these Corvairs growing up in NC quite a bit but they are very few and far between these days.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  4 года назад

      Thanks Aeolus, yeah there definitely aren't many around these days. I do see one driving around every so often still, or parked with the owner looking under the hood and shaking their head haha

  • @CatsGamesWhatever
    @CatsGamesWhatever 4 года назад +2

    A very handsome car and great job getting it running again!

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  4 года назад

      Thanks Cats! I was really happy that I could get it back on the road to show you guys!

  • @ACF6180T
    @ACF6180T 3 года назад +5

    Sounds great & looks pretty nice ! But I would loose those front seats ( IMHO )& the float on the YH1 can be a pain but when you get right you will not need to mess with it again. Thanks for the video & great job getting her going.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching I'm glad you enjoyed my video! Yes I think the float is where it should be now so hopefully it will stay that way. The little metal arm on it is super thin though and it seemed very easy to be bent out of place. I still have the original Corvair seats if I ever feel like getting them reupholstered, I know the buckets don't look that great in the car but they really do make it a lot nicer to drive.

  • @alanjameson8664
    @alanjameson8664 2 года назад +1

    We had a regular Corvair a couple of years before we got a Monza Spyder. With the standard one you had to really look for a chance to pass, but the Spyder had plenty of acceleration. It had sports-car like suspension (a first in the US I think), and the Corvair was the first unibody car built in the US. They tended to throw fanbelts-- one learned to keep a spare in the car. (Allegedly a pair of panty hose would work well enough to get you to where you could buy an OEM belt.) The front end was a little light--it handled better if you tossed a small sack of sand or cement into the trunk. Our previous car was a 1950 Oldsmobile 98, so riding in a Corvair it seemed like your rear end was almost on the pavement.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      I've luckily never thrown a fan belt but everyone who's owned a Corvair has told me the same thing. Well not about the panty hose though haha! Yes it's a very different driving experience than most cars, very sporty especially for the time it was made. I keep a bag of sand in the trunk as well to keep the front end down better.

  • @TairnKA
    @TairnKA 4 года назад +4

    SYK - It was the second turbocharged car (by a month). ;-)
    In the early 70s, Nader was proved wrong.
    A Corvair is no more dangerous than other vehicles of the time.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  4 года назад

      I had to look it up but I guess you’re technically right haha, that short lived Olds Jetfire released a month before! Seems like it was kind of experimental as it needed a methanol injection system just to avoid engine knock...yikes!

    • @TairnKA
      @TairnKA 4 года назад +1

      Ah, somehow I missed that, I was sure it was a production, not a test bed, I'll look again to verify what I read? If it's a production car, then Ill be right. ;-)

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  4 года назад

      @@TairnKA It was produced, I just meant that the car had a very short lifespan due to not being engineered very well. I think I read they made almost 4k models with the “jetfire” turbo though.

    • @TairnKA
      @TairnKA 4 года назад +1

      @@philberto78 Ok, thanks.

  • @gvet47
    @gvet47 2 года назад +1

    The sad part is storing it outside and a cover can be problems with holding moisture under it. Should also start it frequently. The oil could be bad with condensation so hope you checked it. Guess this had been some time ago.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +1

      Yeah I really felt bad about neglecting the poor car for so long, living in another state made it really hard to keep the car up. Now I finally have it with me in Arizona where I'm working on it again.

  • @bioarmor79
    @bioarmor79 4 года назад +1

    I drive a black caddy brougham and I'm trying to get it back to mint or better...never heard of this car before, nice looking ride man...I've never owned a chevy anything but I've always heard they all pretty much have little glitches here and there. Again nice looking ride man. GOD bless.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  4 года назад

      Uh oh Bio, you know Caddy drivers are the enemies of Lincoln drivers! Haha just kidding man, what year Brougham do you own? I figure every car has its own glitches but some have more than others.

    • @bioarmor79
      @bioarmor79 4 года назад +1

      It's a 85'

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  4 года назад

      @@bioarmor79 Nice, best of luck restoring it!

  • @robertrohr3990
    @robertrohr3990 3 года назад +1

    Jay Leno has a 66 turbo Corvair. He gave up on the original side draft carb, changing it to a SU side draft unit.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  3 года назад

      Yeah I saw that, looked like a nice little setup! I think I finally have my carb sorted but if I have more problems in the future I might just look into something like that.

  • @matrox
    @matrox 3 года назад +1

    My uncle had a 62' with a 4 speed in 65'.

  • @rlw127
    @rlw127 3 года назад +2

    Jay Leno replaced the carb on his turbo with a SU carb.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  3 года назад

      Yeah I saw that, very interesting. Looked like a pretty clean installation too!

  • @martentrudeau6948
    @martentrudeau6948 3 года назад +2

    Nader earned the disrespect of all Corvair fans. They are safe and good handling cars. well designed.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  3 года назад +1

      He sure did, what a jerk.

    • @martentrudeau6948
      @martentrudeau6948 3 года назад +1

      @@philberto78 ~ Ralph Nader the lawyer, we can't expect much.
      Joke: Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, an honest lawyer and an old drunk are walking down the street together when they simultaneously spot a hundred dollar bill. Who gets it? The old drunk, of course, the other three are fantasy creatures.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  3 года назад +1

      @@martentrudeau6948 Haha that one's a classic!

  • @63turbo
    @63turbo 2 года назад +1

    Usually, the first modification owners made to their turbos was to remove that tiny little restrictive Carter YH carburetor! those carbs didnt work that great when new... they are flood prone, and are typically set-up too rich. A bigger carburetor will allow a LOT more boost! The hard starting when it has been setting a while is the float bowel getting dried out, and can be fixed by adding an electric fuel pump. Turn the key on, let the fuel pump prime the system, then hit the starter... it should start right up.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      Yeah I can't even tell you how many times I've had the carb flood in the past...but it's running pretty well now after I adjusted the float level finally. I'm trying to keep the car as stock as I can for now, even though I'm sure that like you say I'd get more power from a different carburetor.
      I checked out your old video and it looks like you did A LOT of work on your '63. Pretty cool engine setup indeed! Are you still driving the car?

    • @63turbo
      @63turbo 2 года назад +1

      @@philberto78 Yes, I'm still driving it, although since those videos were done I had to replace the cam. It has a custom cam and once I got the timing curve and fueling right for it, SHEEZUS does it scream! I have 22,000 miles on it with the new cam... approximately 6000 miles per year. I get 22-23 mi/gal "around town" and over 24 on the freeway. I hope to get a couple more videos up this year on it.

    • @63turbo
      @63turbo 2 года назад

      @@philberto78 Although the re-setting of the float height helps a lot with flooding, the near total cure is to add one of those all metal ball and seat type of float valves.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      @@63turbo Wow that's awesome that you drive it so much! I'm not sure what you mean by metal ball and seat valve, where would I get something like that and do they make one specifically for my carb?

    • @63turbo
      @63turbo 2 года назад +1

      @@philberto78 Yes, they are available for the Carter YH. Clarks Corvairs has them. The float valve that you now have has v-shape, and has to push against a sharp edged hole to close. These have been made with both rubber tips and brass tips, but both types wear out (from the sharp edge) and are not accurate in metering. The "ball type" replaces the pointy v-shape with a ball bearing, and has a conical seat (kinda like the point on a drill) to push against to close. Before I used that type of valve (when I was using the YH), it was pretty normal to have it flood 4-5 times a year. After I replaced it, only one flooding event, and it turned out that the choke had gotten stuck closed, so it wasnt the float valves fault. The revised float setting that you use now is the way it is recommended for use with the ball valve.

  • @robertmccully2792
    @robertmccully2792 2 года назад +1

    bought one in 1969 for 50 bucks,, those were the days.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      That's about 400 bucks in today's dollars, you'd have trouble buying a junker for that much now! Times have definitely changed.

  • @jondouglas843
    @jondouglas843 2 года назад +1

    I just bought one of these recently, and I'm rather hoping that you might have some ideas for me. I'm having an issue with my 64 turbo, she's idling too high, and running too rich. I think I can fix the fuel mixture by adjusting my carb, but I'm not sure about the idling issue? Any ideas?

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      Congrats on your new ownership, or maybe I should give you my sympathies haha!
      If you can't get the idle down by making any adjustments to the idle or mixture screws you might need to adjust the carb's float level or get a card rebuild. I think I mentioned it in the video but the carburetors in these cars are what's going to give you most of the headaches.

    • @63turbo
      @63turbo 2 года назад

      Check the throttle shaft for play, as it is probably worn, and will cause a air leak there, and mess with the idle speed. Those throttle shafts are chrome plated brass, and dont fit well (excessively loose) even when new. There are new throttle shafts available that fit much better than stock.

    • @matthewjarrod2523
      @matthewjarrod2523 2 года назад

      Replace carburetor with a fuel injection kit from Blackhawk engineering. It's basically a tweeked Fiero injector and your life will be smooth sailing when it comes to car idling, etc... you will have to plug it in to a computer to make adjustments but the kit comes with the program(I think) to manage it.

  • @austincosta912
    @austincosta912 3 года назад

    Hello i figured i was gonna ask how muxh did u want for the vehicle

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  3 года назад +1

      It never hurts to ask, but sorry the car isn't for sale.

  • @sprezzatura8755
    @sprezzatura8755 9 месяцев назад +2

    Why does everyone understand Porsche but has trouble understanding corvair? When this car came out Porsche was making anemic 4 cylinder engines.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  9 месяцев назад

      Good question. Maybe because Porsche is still around today whereas Corvair hasn't been around for over 50 years?

    • @sprezzatura8755
      @sprezzatura8755 8 месяцев назад +1

      Almost 2 million Corvairs built 60-69.

  • @Jesvox1234
    @Jesvox1234 3 года назад +1

    rad car man!

  • @edwardallan197
    @edwardallan197 2 года назад

    You do not need to crank the starter motor half that long to see if additional measures are needed. Starter abuse.

  • @angieshaw8877
    @angieshaw8877 Год назад

    Water in fuel system?

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      Turned out to be a vacuum leak from a rat eating up some rubber.

  • @AttiKa1628
    @AttiKa1628 3 года назад +2

    Nice car 👍
    Try never use starting fluid, it destroys the engine.

    • @optimusprimer4392
      @optimusprimer4392 2 года назад

      That's not true it's a myth you think the engine is going to run 100,000 miles and stop because of some ether it can cause light detonation upon starting but nothing to shake a stick at although you would never want to use it on a two-stroke that is not a myth

  • @Monza62000
    @Monza62000 3 года назад

    been driving them for 45 years ,,,i now have six great cars an they are so easy to keep running ,,my problem now as i am retired ..gas,,,it sucks an hard on old cars...

  • @newtronix
    @newtronix 2 года назад

    Wow so strange, not a small block V8!

  • @notsogreat123
    @notsogreat123 Год назад

    Hope you have stock in batteries and starters ! lol

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      Haha That was indeed a shameful spectacle wasn't it.

  • @freemanmccullough4486
    @freemanmccullough4486 3 года назад +1

    You're going to burn out that starter and then you'll have more problems. The battery is getting weaker by the second.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  3 года назад

      Nah the starter is fine, it's had a lot of use like this over the years from the car not always wanting to start haha

  • @matthewholzinger1042
    @matthewholzinger1042 2 года назад +1

    Corvairs are totally safe. Rear engine design is different but not unsafe. Nader was not an engineer. He's never even had a drivers license.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      Wow he never even got a license? I never knew that...what a jerk haha

  • @TheSpaceghost69
    @TheSpaceghost69 2 года назад

    Spider actually means it's a convertible, not that it's a turbo

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      Usually that would be correct, but with Corvairs they used the name differently.

    • @TheSpaceghost69
      @TheSpaceghost69 2 года назад

      If I'm not mistaken the turbo corvair is a corsa.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      @@TheSpaceghost69 The Corsas were the second gen Corvairs that came out in 1965 and were available with a turbo but didn’t always have one. The Spyder name was dropped in 1965 too.

  • @user-ww7wf7yb6x
    @user-ww7wf7yb6x 9 месяцев назад

    You first called your car a thing..secondly, you don’t know how to start an old car and you didn’t tell people a whole lot.. why make the video…