These days everything is so mixed up and hard to generalize. So many artists are a complete mix of genres. Same with fashion trends, art and everything else. Not a fan of Gaga, Doja Cat or most celebrities. Though can't judge anyone else who enjoys their music or style
Surprised BJORK wasn’t featured, she really broke the boundaries with her music videos, her image & avant-garde fashion collaborations, not just visually but with her unconventional vocals, & progressive music production & conceptual album narratives. She’s like a force of nature.🇮🇸🧚♂️🐲
Basically, what I understood from the creator's POV is that Gaga was the reason behind the modern-day artists' inclination towards avant. Bjork did it in the 90s and early 00s BUT It was not mainstream YET. After Gaga, everyone had to step up their game. Outrageous has become the new black.
@@annafeather6086that friends video she made was kinda creepy tho you can't deny it. She is getting called those names not just for the ways she dresses. It's more than that
As a modern artist for over 20 years, I love this era. Art is liberating and expansive. We seek God now within ourselves and express that outward. Especially in this secular and dissociative society.
I do love how freeing this era feels like. I could dress the way I wanted to when I was a teenager or live through the fashion eras I never got to experience. You could even try and create your own. It’s really exciting
@xoxonatalie society gives you choice in those areas to give you the illusion of freedom. In reality aesthetics don’t matter at all and shouldn’t be accepted at the price of freedom. We are more enslaved than ever
For a society ingrained in anti establishment, I find it baffling how yet the status quote, the people in power, hold such a gasp on everything. Or at least what gets written down and what does not. For example, there is this large archive of movies missing because some big time movie executives didn’t think they were noteworthy to keep on file. No one goes out of their way to buy dvd’s anymore . Big movie/show rights belong to major streaming companies now that can easily be done away with. Idk why I went on a tangent … 😐 To me it feels like we have all the autonomy and nothing at all.
Powerful message. And so properly placed around the 4th of July. I was just studying calico from India. Higher powers (cotton,wool,linen) around the world actively lobbies against it. Let's remember what our founding fathers said about taxation without representation and freedom from tyranny
This is very evident when it comes to art history, so many important people (most of the time minorities or women) are written out of the history books as being unimportant and are relegated to footnotes. You also get influential and innovative artists that remain obscure even though they were the ones who shaped modern art
The present era is not actually anti-establishment. That's just a story that the powerful use to further their exploitation of the weak. It's another one of those "grand narratives" that reinforce the status quo. Sure, our present culture is very tolerant of artistic creativity, but that creativity is only allowed to exist within the context of capitalism. Art that doesn't make money is relegated to obscurity. Every human society is based on domination and oppression. And they all think that they're not. The delusion that we're moving towards a just society is the foundation of every social hierarchy.
I agree. A little related.. In France, TV in general is owned by certain (liberalist-minded) billionaires and there is an active propaganda set against the left-wing parties by the far-right. We've seen this in action during the current ongoing election. In the results from the last round, far-right came out on top. Remarkably, the left came out second, a sign that all is not completely lost for France at least. But it's likely France will be governed under a far-right government very soon - a party which wants to prevent immigration into France and remove basic human rights for all, eg, in healthcare. Those who will benefit are the bourgeois, not the masses who continue to exist (whether the former want to know it or not) at the base of the pyramid. That's the UK's bread and butter. It's been sad for me, realising that this is happening to France, a country which was a symbol of progression and democratic freedom to the rest of the West. And it's demoralising to see how the left-wing party in France are labelled as 'anti-semitic' by the far-right, simply because they call for an investigation into the war crimes committed within Gaza, a current war zone. Killing civilians unprovoked and bombing hospitals are both war crimes, for example, which is what Israel has committed against Palestine. They do not say Hamas should not be investigated and condemned for their own war crimes. But they are labelled as anti-semitic, nonetheless. This is spread in the media by the far-right, which is only possible because most big TV channels in France are owned by billionaires who align with the far-right. There can be no fair vote when propaganda is being exercised so freely and unbridled in the media. Either we need to remove that power from certain people, or people in general need to become educated that the media is not unbiased and they need to do their own fact-checks. I fear it will have to be the latter, at the rate far-right ideologies are being voted into power across the West in today's world. Italy, for example, now ruled by a fascist government. In answer to your last remark, I think it's an illusion that 'we have all the autonomy'. I say it's that we have no autonomy at all. Unless we're in with the majority, which are sadly the most manipulated groups, and so we must continue to be oppressed by those who are supposed to lead and serve us. It's a bloody joke, honestly. Revolution will come, but maybe not in our lifetimes sadly.
The ¨anything can be art¨ thing was revolutionary at the time. When Duchamp put a urinary in an art exhibition, he was asking the visitors questions like ¨is this art just because I put it here¨? It was profound. The problem is that once that question was made, repeating it makes no sense. most of all the ¨modern art¨we see in a gallery is just a version of that same question. only that instead of making the question, now it's an affirmation. Galleries don't want us to put their pieces into question; they want us to assume that they are undoubtedly ART just because they are there, and therefore they are worth whatever price they attach to it. The ¨anything can be art¨now is just a market strategy, so they can literally sell ANYTHING as ¨art¨. That's the sad reality of the ¨art¨ busiinnes in a nutshell
@@user-sg4ov7ng4hbut does it really matter what the artist means by the art they create? Aren't we supposed to create our own opinions and interpretations? We give the art a meaning? Edit: a misspelling occurred
Some might call it a lack of originality but I honestly love that people are looking to the past for inspiration, and adhering to different aesthetics. I can’t remember a time when Latin music was as mainstream as it is now. Kendrick Lamar becoming one of the greatest rappers, period. K-pop and music from other countries dominating the world. Old artists coming back and being introduced to younger ones on a large scale through TikTok, you hear the influence of older periods in Beabadoobee, Chappell Roan. This is the best time for music.
People have always looked to the past, anything that seemed new like punk or psychedelia or whatever else that happened in the 20th century was birthed out of nostalgia for previous art. Nothing is ever new. Anything you see as a today problem has always been there, the interconnectedness of the modern world just amplifies it to a bigger degree than before
I am a very creative person - but I'm poor as dirt because I happen to be autistic and it's difficult for me to find gainful employment - and no, running back to live with Mum and Dad is not an option for me. We may live in an era of creativity, but the sad fact is that only those artists of a more comfortable background are able to fully express their genius, instead of being trapped in survival mode 24/7. I do try to admire rather than envy those who have succeeded, but sometimes I do feel sad.
Yeah at the start when he was talking about how anyone can express themselves however they want I was just looking at my 1 outfit wardrobe and thinking "if you're rich"
@@ogpandamonium *stares at all the homeless people in my city* I wonder how they'd express themselves if they had nicer outfits. PS: I have a job now, so I can afford better clothing. Not everyone is lucky as me, though.
Lady Gaga has been well known, for quite some time now, to have ripped her entire look off of others. Outfits barely altered, worn by people making far more of a statement, than she could ever have dreamt of.
very interesting video but the last bit of the video is a bit ill-informed. the whole idea that humanity is on a linear path of development, continually evolving until reaching a final fully advanced destination, is a teleological perspective. it relies on the idea that the historical timeline is chronological, and that humans are ever improving. this is simply not true, there are oscillations in human progress from whatever angle you look at it. and besides, “progress” is so subjective you can’t really attach it to the way humans interact with their world across time. by referring to past humans as primitive, we devalue them, and place their history and perspectives below ours. this is such a prevalent issue that people often disregard it. we are not “better” than the past, and we never will be. we are simply different, as is every era of time.
@@ivyvoo this comment is such a perfect example of postmodernism & “murky” concepts of truth/ being skeptical of objectivity haha But I think what you are describing has more to do with “black and white thinking”. Yes history is not 100% linear, but it’s also not 100% cyclical and chaotic. In the short term history tends to be more fluid and cyclical, but over long stretches “linear” patterns show themselves. Civilizations can rise and fall, regress and progress but over the grand scheme innovations inevitably compound and technology advances
You know what's funny? If you had a time machine, went to the past amd brought people from the past to our age most of them would probably say their society was somehow better, like we're fucked up or something. And, like every age after we stopped worshipping tradition, we think the same of the past. How can you justify your belief that we aren't better?
We have made technological advancements that have improved the human experience. Our production for scientific advancement is off the charts right now.
@@rarelyobscurescience does not improve life unless it is used for solutions for actual problems. Science is merely understanding and has nothing to do with improvement. Applied science neither good or bad. It is all about how it is applied and enabling people to understand for themselves.
@@Sagethisyour reply is very low resolution compared to the point made above .. the Overton window appears through many different lenses and this is exactly why human “progress” is in fact cyclical .. the oscillation described above has been churning for thousands of years
I do think that we’re living in a very creative time but I don’t think that right now is the best time to be a creative. Everything is so much more expensive and it’s not only harder to make a living as an artist but there also aren’t as many spaces where artists can form communities that aren’t on the internet or at an overpriced college.
It is true for some people who dont have time to be creative on certain things that they want to do. And I get that sometimes it's their way of life because of this and that. However, I heard that you can become creative with learning yourself on financial help and education. How? By looking on the structure of the basics, you want to learn how the structure/basics work, then when you have the basics down, you can do whatever you wanna do with your knowledge, by being creative on anything with financial education. I am aware that it's not for everyone because of time/materials, but if you think about it a bit, what do you want to do when you have unlimited resources today than in the past? Certainly, it's possible that there are some who wants to be wealthy/in the middle/poor, it's only you that have the wheel to steer on your own path.
that has been the state of the world since forever relatively speaking this is the easiest time to become an artist unrionically there has never been as many artist in any point in history
Post modernism has kind of been harmful on working class progressive movements for this reason. People take this “no restraints” outlook and apply to society. As if a liberal society is a free society and not just limited by its own social structure like capitalism also.
This kinda terrifies me because what if.. this is like a new Renaissance that people will discuss about in the future (just like we now talk about the last one). I just had the thought of academics looking back at Postmodernism, Foucault, Beauvoir and Lady Gaga.. just like they went back in the 1500s and rediscovered Plato and the ancient philosophers.
Kinda true, more.and.more people are renaissance men or women, do multiple things like stich, draw, make music, make animation, stream all from one person, in the future people are gonna be alot of things, new forms of media we can't picture yet, as technology progresses new forms of art could be created too, like how complex music has become with fl studio or digital art
@@cozumel5608Haha, then the past is still more remote yet. If Enlightenment thought is characterised by a radical break with the past, then post-modernity is characterised by its dissolution. We are stranded in a psychotic present & there is nothing liberatory about it.
I think that creativity as an element of the human experience has remained largely static. What we parcel out as indicators of said creativity still default of on artistic figureheads, exemplified pretty clearly in your nomination of the celebrities you cited. Art subcultures have always existed to such degrees, mediums ability to amplify has changed.
There are undoubtedly way more subcultures now than there were in the past and it's all a symptom of and a contributor to our atomization. I don't know what you mean by creativity has "remained static". Certainly we haven't always been innovating at the same rate. Doesn't mean what's coming out now is any good but I just can't agree with you to be honest.
@RuthvenMurgatroyd I regarded creativity as an element of human experience as largely static. And I asserted that subcultures have always existed to such degrees, not whether or not there were more or less. It's okay if you don't agree with me.
Yes, I thought the video centered more on aesthetics rather than into Art itself, Doja herself defined her music as generic pop which gave her tons of money and even music veterans have defined today's music industry as fast food. I almost do not listen to modern music but I'm happy to live in this time, but still understand its flaws.
Art is only "good" and "creative" if people like it. This era seems free but yet only for certain people it seems. (conventionally attractive people ). At least that's what I see.
You're talking about celebrities, not all celebs are artists, not all artists are attractive or celebs, Yayoi Kusama is a great example, she's not conventionally attractive, she's old, and still she is the most respected artists of the decade, she even became a celebrity which wasn't her goal
This video is like a god-send at this moment in my life! 😭 It explained a lot of reasons why I feel the way I do about my life at present and about life in general. I study history and social, cultural and human development but I’ve been stumped for quite a while on why I don’t know where to take my life. I have completed the phase of my life that has emptied out the societal “hand-me-down” templates of how to live, how to operate oneself and especially, express individuality. You said it 💯 when you said we have so much freedom NOW and yes, I guess that is exactly what I’m struggling with at 38 as a millennial. I have completely abandoned my upbringing, religion, the soul crushing experience of the 9-5 and many many mental constructs. Once you get to this level of freedom…you have two choices. Languor in the remnants of the past and let it slowly conform you again or open a door to a new frontier and for whatever reason I have been stuck from leaving the past. I’m scared, but I want to. I’ve never cared to burn bridges, start from scratch or lose my identity BUT nothing seems to ever take form fully within and without of me. Maybe I have more things to break within myself than I realize. It’s hard to find something to live for and currently I’m bitter, bordering nihilistic and just fading away. It sucks but hopefully I make it out and add to an amazing legacy of post modern art, ideals & expectations and leave my mark. That’s really all I want personally for myself. 🥲
Björk preceded Gaga by two decades. Not only that, her music actually matched her expression in fashion. Not taking away from what current artists do now. Doja Cat is really slaying things with her maximalist style. But when it comes to authentic artistic expression, I don’t think anybody could top prime-era Björk. She’s the Picasso of this sh!t Rather surprised she’s not included in this conversation.
bjork didn't changed mainstream. gaga did. it's not about who were the first (graces jones preceded bjork btw) but the one that caused a lasting and large impact in pop culture.
@@sam-mn2cg I’ll have to disagree that Björk didn’t have impact. Gaga’s music appealed to the mainstream while Björk appealed to those who understood her style. In the 90s, the coolest sh!t was whatever was least popular and actually had substance. And if that’s your basis off what “trends” then yeah, I disagree fully. The fact she ignored mainstream trends, to me, was impact enough. But I will agree with you on Grace Jones. She was another precursive icon.
@@sam-mn2cg I disagree, what Gaga has changed? nothing... her music is catchy but I never bought an album of her, I find her too superficial, meanwhile I have all Borjk records, each of them unique, deep and interesting. It's true that people like Grace Jones and Nina Hagen existed before, only for some years because Bjork was a child star and made her first punk-rock band, the sugarcubes, in the 80s, already showcasing what a solo Bjork would be able to do. Love Doja cat but nothing is really new since the late 90s, artist nowadays are good at recycling old material but show no originality.
@@sam-mn2cg if everybody would think like you, we wouldn't know most of the famous painters and artists, because the majority weren't acknowledge by the mainstream in their own times...
I was just telling my friend this! Not about singularity, but about digital music and art creation. Now that everyone has a chance to create and express themselves, more and more people will become artists and content creators and musicians and writers and designers, etc. Without actually having a career in it. It will just become second nature to create. I actually think singularity is scary given that people love their individuality😅. And i love my individuality.
not really. Since the process of creating something is eliminated.Think of it in the process of creating concept art, concept artists has to explore and learn about the different options and experiment with different looks and make lore about those looks. If you just prompt it in AI, your already given a generic result, most people who dont have that creative 'insight', that people who have more experienced had, would just be okay with mediocrity because 'its better than nothing'. I mean youtube already got you covered on tutorials, you just need to put in effort. @@rarelyobscure
Omg now it makes for me perfect sense why i love Gaga and Lana the same time with same amount of big love. It's because of their courage of pushing art in their direction
Honestly I kinda feel like we're living in the complete opposite . I feel like art and modern culture is in an absolute cultural stagnation . Back in the 2000s when you looked back at the 80s it looked like a completely different world , the music , fashion , movies , it all looked completely alien by the early 2000's, while today , when we look back at the early 2000's , it doesnt seem that much different , sure the fashion and music has changed , but a lot of the ideas and concepts that were introduced in this decade is still around today , like phones, the internet , ect . We also keep seeing big companies always milking the same licenses because it sells more than actually creating something new . I think the fact that a lot of people of our generation are looking back at the past to get inspiration is because our culture has become so stagnant and dull that they look back at generations that had something . Take a look at minimalism , it's litteraly a design theory thats meant to appeal to everyone without actually pleasing someone , just blend enough to please everyone because it lacks any charm or personnality .
most sane comment here. Very well said. The peak of art was during the 50-80's. Were now at the bottom of the curve. It's both good and bad as a creative person to be born now, or 10-20 years ago living today. Everything is just wrong.
I would agree slightly but i think there has been an explosion in creative outlets. And im pretty sure more music genres exist now then back in the day. Another example i think is that anyone can make a youtube video/tiktok that can be seen by anyone in the world..that wasn't possible before 2000. You can literally do anything creative and share/sell your art online
This some complete bullshit pop is short for popular it means that the music is as basic and unpolarizing as possible so that the majority will like it. Pop music doesn’t last very long it’s the opposite of timeless it’s popular at the moment because many people like it (at this moment) but it’s not unique so no one will care in the future. pop music is usually trash that’s why no one cares about most of old pop music.
DUDE! Cindy freakin' Sherman!!! Thank you for bringing her up!!! I don't hear anyone ever talking about her and it's a shame. This is the first video of yours that I've seen and bring up her is enough for me to hit that subscribe button. Dope video!!
freedom ≠ creativity you are conflating freedom with creativity, which is not the same thing as some of the best creative works are born out of limitations.
@@Sagethis Not really, we have as much censorship now as we did 50 years ago, the subjects may change but the way of dealing with controversy has gone back decades, imo.
Ngl, I went into this video skeptical and only clicking it outta boredom but you really blew me away. The way you broke everything down to the most granular level about modern life and art was exceptional. I agree with almost everything you said, bravo
I really like your point of view. I have not thought about how both freeing and empty modern art can be. The greater emphasis on the viewer being able to place all of the value into a piece is very interesting. I think that we have the greatest potential for artistic expression right now, but we have failed to fully realize what this means. I feel that we have also gone into a derivative-based period of time where nothing is a new concept but new take on an old one. My least favorite part about modern art is the commodification of something with far more meaning than monetary value.
This is not scary, it gives me peace. It’s so nice to just exist without constraints and the bondage of social constructs. I don’t always understand other people and what they do, but I think it’s nice to just play even if it doesn’t have a deep meaning.
One of the most idiotic videos I have seen on youtube, in a very long time. In the 70s you could be a "starving artist" and live in hells kitchen New York or just off of Sunset Blvd in Los Angles...you CAN NOT do that now. Young people are also lonelier and more depressed than ever before so...where is this perception coming from? Just because everyone has access to the internet and can release music independently, doesn't mean they are actually creative. Its the equivalent of 15 minutes of fame.
One of the most idiotic comments I have seen on youtube, in a very long time. Your idea of the starving artist is very idealistic and not based in reality in any sense, these days you can make more money from your art than people have ever been able to make. You shouldn’t have to be creative to make art. Art is objective. You cant set a standard on something that has no real meaning. People are just as creative now as they were in the past they just have more mediums to express that creativity. You would have to have 20 different people playing an instrument for music made in the 70s now you can have 1 guy and his sister making entire albums in their bedroom on garage band. You completely missed the entire point of this video, people have the freedom to do literally whatever they want and can think of without fear of repercussions because of the culture we have created today. In the 70s you would have been ostracized and disregarded by your community without hesitation for creating the wrong piece of art. You only think that the past was a great time to be a starving artist because you only hear the success stories, now you can get onto social media and see the reality of 6 people in the span of 30 minutes say their paintings/pottery/crochet-works arent selling. He never brought up depression and anxiety because what the hell does that have to do with art?
@@Matt-id5mi > You shouldn’t have to be creative to make art. Yeah, that's why we have AI """art""" nowadays. > Art is objective. You mean subjective, right?
Why was that the most interesting video I love postmodernism so much I love being unique and self expression omfg it’s the most interesting thing to me
Honestly, I wanted to click away when I saw you (bias, it exists) but then, you just kept on making sense. I have always stood and wondered in awe of our current time in Human history. We are really in Hyper Reality.
we do live in a free era though. I've seen people post random content on tiktok for free and then suddenly they blow up and get invited to events and get paid. Some streamers make money by recording themselves doing the most random stuff, others get paid for playing video games. There's so many possibilities to build wealth nowadays it's up to you now
To me art has never been so meaningless and unworthy of my time exactly because of the circumstances which allow it to exist. There are zero standards in our society, zero demands to adhere to to in self expression, and so absolutely nothing worth being heard in modern art. They're rebelling against nothing, breaking no boundries, risking nothing, it's just aimless narcissistic expression and self worship. It's completely maturbatory, as content rich as monkeys flinging shit at a canvas. It's all just gibberish.
@@jollygrapefruit786 well said. couldn’t agree more. we don’t struggle- we are probably one of the cushiest generations to exist. everything is accessible and our needs are being met. we’ve been too comfortable for too long and it leads to things like modern art.
Love the Gaga // Del Rey contrast. Super fascinating. Great to include super recent visuals of Chappell Roan.. her recent performance gave me those Gaga feels with the visuals. We're in exciting times. Great video.
I think we might be past postmodernism. Theres post-post-modernism, or metamodernism, which is a progression of postmodernism and is like a synthesis of that and modernism. It involves ideas like 'oscillating' freely between these movements, constructing from deconstruction, finding contradictions, making the impossible possible. It's quite philosophical that way, but I think that's where we're headed
Great point about how we have more access to past art than ever before. There's a lot of interesting discussions about repeating patterns in history, but what's most fascinating to me about it is the linear progression of technology and the proliferation of free information
I love the creative freedom and focus on people deciding for themselves how to live and express themselves being the mainstream narrative of today, but I do think it has the catch of a sometimes toxic sense of individualism and people having a lot of struggles figuring out how to build community and share community with people who made different choices from them.
I think what people dislike is that all this is a reflection of how individualistic our society as become that art is all about being unique, almost unrelatable, and it's impossible for any normal middle-class person to hope to make that kind of art because it relies on money, fame and connexions, or even just having the time and ressources to sit down and create, art takes TIME and we are selling ours to corporations meanwhile people who went into like cgi or design to try to get a "real" job are losing their jobs to AI, like art isn't that nice when only the elite can do it
Interesting, thank you. However, I do not quite understand the point made about transhumanism. To enjoy art, it is necessary to feel emotions. Emotions are felt in the organic body. Merging the organic body with machines and technology would very likely alter emotions in an unforeseen way, probably have a numbing effect similar to psychotropic medication. Maybe they lead to emotions not being felt in the same way, maybe not at all. Leaving the organic body behind will also not lead to liberation, but into a trap. Emotions, which are felt in the organic body, exist, because they are our connection to our spiritual self. If the body is modified or left behind to the point that feelings can no longer be felt by the individual, then creativity and art will be lost. Is this really worth the risk?
Great video! I'm glad RUclips brought me here. The Lana section made me rethink the entire way I express my self through clouthing. I was feeling stuck in a loop of following trends cos I thought they look cool but completly forgot to dress in a way I feel my self, stylish and comfortable. Now I feel motivated to look for myself again through fashion
inteligence progessiveness and creativity are all one. as a society becomes more inteligent and advanced it will also become more progressive and creative
I was examining outfits i saw in public and categorizing them by an aesthetic when I realized this, it's a very neurodivergent trait of mine but I love fashion and disecting it. We live in an era of so many unique and specific communities that we can delve into any topic and express ourselves in any way. I mean the idea that a Midwesterner could explore an upcoming non mainstream artist while studying spirituality and being online friends with some dude into the same stuff in Serbia would be impossible just 50 years ago and now we're able to all learn whatever we want and become well versed on anything and express ourselves through anything. This is a hell of a time to be alive, we can't let doomerism keep us from experiencing it.
All art has always been a copy of a copy especially renaissance art which followed a rather linear pattern of looking at a recent past artists technique and copying it and adding something else to it.
@@largeymargey5651 That's influence, and everybody steals. Art, lit, music, sculpture, science--The artist uses the influences to make the art his own. I'm talking more about sociology--the medium is the message. Think about memes--sure, they can be art, but they remove the arts original meaning.
I thought you did a fantastic job showcasing the points of today’s postmodern expressionism and how individuals are learning to express their own mythologies through art or what they wear or music. Awesome job 💛
We’re kind of in a metamodern era. Postmodernism is gone. I think we live in a throw spaghetti at the wall era. The creation process is so fast that there’s little time to refine ideas and edit. And it’s a surer bet to (in music, at least) to look wild but sound the same. I don’t think we live in a creative time at all - every show is the same, songs are all the same. It’s just beige. It’s a beige era.
@@lisaw.2562 Real life is art. Everything else is just faking life. Art brings you to the edge of reality so you can contemplate what it is but it is never finished as life never stops. it is my view on the subject. So yeah, everything can be art depending on situation but most of the time we see people coping with existence rather than taking it by the horns.
Very shallow, naive and privileged analysis, but I've come to expect that. Yes, our consumption is decentralised, we have more choices offered, but what isn't decentralised is the system that offers those choices. You didn't mention class even once in your vid, but class divides are growing greater and greater very quickly. In fact, if you look at your conclusion you can see how this point of view isn't postmodern at all - the fact that you envision a linear evolution from monkey to machine singularity, it's a modernist model, it shows that there is a structure underlying all this that hasn't been overcome or decentralised. It sounds a lot closer to Hegel than postmodernism. If you look at what's being produced nowadays, despite the seeming diversity, it all points again in one general direction. There's no real diversity of opinions, it all starts to look like the same liberal democratic ideology. But there's an underlying structure to it, an entrenched system of power and of global economic relations. This is why you should never stop at just analysing culture in a vacuum. In a way, art is still incredibly limited, maybe even more limited than ever before. Why can't we bring art into our lives so far that it turns into a revolution? Why do we all in actuality keep living similar lives if we're actually so diverse? Of course people are "finding God" again when he never even left. God is dead, but his shadow lives on in the form of the State. And this whole New Age spiritualism thing is only a further development of that same system, it follows a lot of the same ideas and presents itself almost as THE ideology of capitalism. A specific kind of individualism, a specific set of "community" values, a specific view of "ascending consciousness". It's all the same capitalist bullshit. No. We NEED intolerance. We NEED violence. We NEED to be able to destroy. And to create actual alternatives. Not just follow trends and passively pick out different aesthetics. I have nothing against meaninglessness, I have against the singular underlying system of meaning that has weaponised meaninglessness to deny us actual opposition and creativity.
@@dresirednix what? Who's the reactionary, me? For calling out how liberalism is reactionary, i.e. preserving of the status quo? Insane. No this isn't about liking what I like, this is about something more, it's about destabilisation and non-conformity. I mean I guess if to you that is just another "thing" someone can like then sure, but that's an incredibly naive point of view that fall exactly under what I was talking about: you think of non-conformity as another choice on the conveyor belt of capitalism. But I think of it as something aimed at crushing capitalist totalitarianism.
I've been itching for content like this, and I think your takes are well researched and founded. Looking forward to more videos, especially gaga and Lana. Lana to me is like a post-modern American landscape artist. Gaga is a whole force on her own, even including her work with jazz music. Also very very verryyyyy curious about your take on her ARTPOP era, in terms of the art world and being a student to art.
I want that Doja Cat video. Your videos are so well researched and written, I think you'd do an amazing job. You also have taste and you just get it!!!
"We Are Living In The Most Creative Time EVER" meanwhile almost everything that's mentioned is just some kind of subversion of already existing norms and beliefs
all creativity is built off the previous art generation's understandings, norms, assumptions, and beliefs. no art is ever made in a vacuum and creativity will always be based on how changing social attitudes, technologies, and tastes react to the art of the past and change it
I think it’s an interesting because I enjoyed hearing you discuss this topic. You have a very striking energy and look that I feel also describes what the video was mainly discussing, the ability to freely express yourself. Great video!
We are not in a time of immense change, we are in stagnation with art being borrowed not created. I sight Mark Fisher as the base of understanding of this. The youths arrogance over its ignorance helps it to be blind that in this era nothing new has been created...onl borrowed. From Lana Del Reyes vintage look to Dua Lipas Future Nostalgia... I mean WTF! its in the name, FUTURE NOSTALGIA. This is not creation, it is stagnation at the end of history... no more waterfalls, just a puddle dehydrating in the sun of time.
I really like this take actually. I’ve been personally trying to understand what this period of time will look like to future people. I’ve always thought culture seemed so decentralized. Like most periods in history have specific overarching qualities, while this current time feels like a jumble of ideas and callbacks. I’ve looked at this decentralization with a negative and frustrated tone. But this is giving me a new way to perceive our current time.
I love watching Doja Cat's outfits. The same way I used to be so curious and obsessed with wondering what lady gaga would be wearing next at an award show!!! i miss lady gaga days. i know she's evergreen but its funny how time flies.
In a time where people are less likely to make true decisions to create their own authentic life, or to have access to resources to really be able to do that, art is definitely NOT imitating real life for many people. It is more of an escapism.
I think people have to believe in something to create anything of actual value. Not all forms or instances of expression are equal: A photograph of a baseball cap is not equal in artistic expression to Mozarts requiem mass - that is an insane, chaotic way to view art; and imo, morally unjust. Culture needs some form of order, or its all just meaningless chaos: I've been playing guitar for a week and I'm as valuable and worthwhile as jimmy hendrix because everything is subjective and I say so. Somethings are better than other things, some things win and others loose - its not fair or equal, thats reality whether you want to accept it or not
Who gets to decide something is better than something else? You ARE as valuable as Hendrix, simply for being born. This is your dream and you get to decide your worth. Culture doesn’t exist it was merely manufactured, so much society brainwashing, Be You!
fantastic video essay. It's refreshing to haer such a positive look on our current times. I did not look at it like that before and I'm thankful to you for giving me a new perspective! Subbbbbbbed.
Honestly, you can talk all you want about how we are so creative and what not now. But the truth is that what we are making is just plain ugly. It's all flat, always going for shock value and repetitive. Things not having a structure is not a good thing. What we are doing is just an artistic version of senseless screaming without a rhythm or reason, which I feel reflects back on people mental health too. You know what you should do if you really want to be transgressive today? Make something truly beautiful and good. Don't write music about getting wasted in a bar and sleeping with hundreds people or stacking paper. Write music about something serene, calm and beautiful.
@@crystalliscenceMy response to this would be is that you can always find some exception to the norm. But I'm asking to rebel against the norm. You know, La Sagrada Familia is still being build today and it's fair to say it has a very different philosophy to it than most buildings have. Yet if I complain about architecture today, it would be weird to say "But La Sagrada Familia is still being build today". That's true, but it's an outlier. In the same way, I feel MOST art today is just weird for the sake of weird. It doesn't really inspire or give you any great feeling. It just gives you a big "meh" and confusion. Like compare a romanticism painting to most stuff you see in a modern art gallery. Can you imagine an popular artist today making an image, song, building, statue, whatever you want, for the sake of it bringing beauty into the world? It's always to be shocking in some way and eye catching. I'm saying instead of that, make something which is honest to you as a person, that makes you feel more comfortable, hopefully inspires you, and brings beauty into the world.
@@spinachslurp9176 well there are many artists that are "rebelling against the norm" now by making peaceful, comfortable music. laufey and mitski is a *very* popular example. and weyes blood and ichiko aoba are personally my favorite artists too. also in general piano and soft acoustic music is alive and well- i find it weird to complain about a lack of these kinds of artists when thats NOT the case at all, you're discrediting their work when they most definitely aren't rare as you think and very much have a strong and loving fanbase behind them. same with movies and books. beautiful art exists everywhere today, and is actually even popular, you just have to keep an open eye out for it. i agree that many artists today *can* make the opposite of this kind of work. and you're allowed to complain about it. however that's the beauty of modern society. we're allowed to make ANY type of art we desire, and that includes both the beautiful and the ugly. and if you want to focus on the former, then go for it, there's nothing stopping you! just saying that they're more prolific then you think.
Great video and great summarized explanation of our trajectory, from origin to future state. I think it's important to address the last point in the video: our "merging with our technology" in our path to transhumanism needs to be discussed more and we need to have a point of view that is separate from our current techno-optimist perspective. We are not in control of our technological progress. Techno-humanism is much closer than, I think, most of us expected it to realistically be. Even more pressingly, it is coming before other, more urgent, technological advancements that are required for our perpetuation as a species: we aren't meeting our climate goals, we are far from resolving social inequalities, we're in the middle of a mass extinction we are causing, and the rate of technological progress to resolve these issues is much slower than the rate of advance for techno-humanism. This is only happening because, as with any other revolution, it is being used against the revolutionaries by the powers that be. We are though, as @FaceTatt Philosophy said, in our most connected era ever - which means our actionary and reactionary capacity is greater than ever. We can self-organize collective action better than ever. We need to take advantage of that to mitigate the impact of revolution manipulation and retain as much individual power and independence as possible so that our capacity for self expression and freedom increases with our transition to technological transhumanism rather than decreases through over-reliance on corporate (or state) - mandated technological integration.
Just consider that this video is extremely indulged in its own bubble. Like, it captures one reality of modern day societies and maybe the one that hints at the future the most, but on the other hand, it represents such an elitist and privileged view of the world. It‘s not necessarily criticism of the video, but it must be noted that it is pretty oblivious to anything happening outside a few bubbles of society and to many societal and political problems too.
I agree yet people really decided they need something to complain about as they think that modern art is degrading, when it’s not. Like don’t you see that more people than ever before can make their own things and be creative because of our technological advancements and freedom of speech, though some parts of the world have more of this than others it’s better than what we have in the past, so we need to be thankful.
Ngl having too much of something doesn’t make it good. I feel like we are losing culture and going to things of the past to make us happy. Almost like our society is scared of moving forward and is holding on to the past or taking inspo from everywhere. This gen promotes hedonism, we can have it all. We have it all but does anything matter anymore. A.I is a thing now too so people can even recreate people’s art and sell it. Nothing matters and nothing is yours. We are seeking belonging and community.
This video feels like a baby obssessing over his/her belly button. Yes postmodernism was cool, and the current metamodernism we are living in can be fun, but it's also an environment build around the idea of previous references being twisted and thrown around without actually proposing anything completely new that doesn't feel derivative or too influenced by previous trends, now this is only a problem if we think about culture and societal progress as a direct linear process (which is not) but since we can't forget classical things and then revamped them like what happened during the Renaissance, we have kinda made peace with the idea of recycling old trends every x years or a couple of decades max while not modifying things too much, just refreshing some elements here and there, as if refreshing an online page, hoping to see something unique coming out of the same portal. I think capitalism has had a deleterious influence at insulating the creative environment by supressing or at least difficulting the creation and popularization of innovative ideas, while benefitting the comercialization of the same art over and over, even when it feels very tired and rancid, 'cause there will always be younger and impressionable people to sell things to, and if you can make them feel superior by rejecting the old and acquiring the new, every single time a not so innovative thing comes out, the people that control the market narrative and determine what is desirable to own or to be, those people know their lifes have been resolved forever, they dont really have to innovate, just keep selling and supporting the same trash with slight tweaks every couple of years and laugh all the way to the bank. Thus, I reject the main idea of this video and the man behind it. Yes, You can express all You want, You can put whats in your mind out in the world just like You did with this video, but just because you felt something engaging in that activity, do not expect me or anyone one else to value the product or the process behind it as "art". You will be chewed up and spat out in an instant, some will swallow you whole, others will regurgitate after some time, and eventually some will defecate whatever they took from you and your work. Lastly, owning the possibility to participate in any creative endeavor, doesn't mean the output of said activity Will be original nor creative, it may be influential and get referenced and discussed. It may pay the bills, just like it might not become a partyof the Zeitgeist or influence the work of future minds. We wouldn't have all the art we've accumulated throughout history without the hardships and limitations inherent to each time, besides, being impotent or feeling vulnerable, miserable and wronged are great fuels for artistic creation that goes beyond abstraction and the constant sharing with your peers. I love the artist You mentioned and the ones You didn't (like Björk) but I can't concede and accept the premise of this video, specially since 'murican mainstream media is not and will never be the end all be all behind art, you guys are hanging out in a giant playground and feel like you're performing on a huge venue for the world to observe, consume, imitate and follow, outside perspectives are heavily needed to add nuance on what you guys, with your homogenizing presence, shall do to move out of the stagnating state of affairs you're currently in, you've even managed to make drag, food, traveling and sex feel stale.
I wanted to believe in your argument because Lady Gaga and Doja Cat *ARE* extremely creative, but they are still outliers compared to most other artists. Right now, mainstream art is as safe, derivative, and uninspired as ever and will likely become even more so thanks to AI content creation. So while new technology was intended to unlock limitless human potential for creativity, I believe that it is really just contributing to an oversaturated market of mediocrity. This may have the unintended effect of helping the truly original artists rise to the top, however, and that could be seen as a good thing.
How do you feel about modern art? About postmodernism? Do you enjoy modern pop music or celebs?
@@Sagethis There IS a before and after lana del rey for me she was my main inspiration Ethel Caín IS also a good example
I like hyperpop
These days everything is so mixed up and hard to generalize. So many artists are a complete mix of genres. Same with fashion trends, art and everything else. Not a fan of Gaga, Doja Cat or most celebrities. Though can't judge anyone else who enjoys their music or style
I love art in general , pollock , rothko, dali, even random things can be beautiful to me. Art will be the best, don't care for celebs tho lol
@@givemeliberty700 I can understand yes for me right now it's perfume how strange right? I LOVE seeing perfume bottles Avon had pretty Creative ones!
Surprised BJORK wasn’t featured, she really broke the boundaries with her music videos, her image & avant-garde fashion collaborations, not just visually but with her unconventional vocals, & progressive music production & conceptual album narratives. She’s like a force of nature.🇮🇸🧚♂️🐲
I laughed when he basically said gaga pioneered post modern maximalist art 😭like????
Very true. Bjork pioneered the path that Lady Gaga tread.
Basically, what I understood from the creator's POV is that Gaga was the reason behind the modern-day artists' inclination towards avant. Bjork did it in the 90s and early 00s BUT It was not mainstream YET. After Gaga, everyone had to step up their game. Outrageous has become the new black.
FKA Twigs, Sevdaliza. There are sooo many. Lana del Ray is laughable
@@a.ran_blvddoesnt matter if she was mainstream or not. In fact small artists are the ones who mainstream ones bite off
Finally someone who enjoys it and not just titles it as „weird“ or „satanic“
Satanic? What?
@@rarelyobscure trust me so many people see it as that
Isn't dressing as the devil kinda satanic tho? 😂
@@annafeather6086that friends video she made was kinda creepy tho you can't deny it. She is getting called those names not just for the ways she dresses. It's more than that
@@chrissy138 not everyone is a Christian
As a modern artist for over 20 years, I love this era. Art is liberating and expansive. We seek God now within ourselves and express that outward. Especially in this secular and dissociative society.
@@arialisestrellaartistry love how you put that 🔥
Woah you explained it so well!! Thank you screen shotting :)
It's another whole movement that includes artists in the entire world
oh this felt like a proverb, gospel even
It is odd that you would pigtail an archaic reference to a "Modern Art" there is a time and place for everything
I do love how freeing this era feels like. I could dress the way I wanted to when I was a teenager or live through the fashion eras I never got to experience. You could even try and create your own. It’s really exciting
totally agreed, with both fashion and music. you have so many more options and ways to build your sense of self and cultivate it.
We are more enslaved than ever before
@xoxonatalie society gives you choice in those areas to give you the illusion of freedom. In reality aesthetics don’t matter at all and shouldn’t be accepted at the price of freedom. We are more enslaved than ever
For a society ingrained in anti establishment, I find it baffling how yet the status quote, the people in power, hold such a gasp on everything. Or at least what gets written down and what does not. For example, there is this large archive of movies missing because some big time movie executives didn’t think they were noteworthy to keep on file. No one goes out of their way to buy dvd’s anymore . Big movie/show rights belong to major streaming companies now that can easily be done away with. Idk why I went on a tangent … 😐 To me it feels like we have all the autonomy and nothing at all.
Powerful message. And so properly placed around the 4th of July. I was just studying calico from India. Higher powers (cotton,wool,linen) around the world actively lobbies against it. Let's remember what our founding fathers said about taxation without representation and freedom from tyranny
This is very evident when it comes to art history, so many important people (most of the time minorities or women) are written out of the history books as being unimportant and are relegated to footnotes. You also get influential and innovative artists that remain obscure even though they were the ones who shaped modern art
The present era is not actually anti-establishment.
That's just a story that the powerful use to further their exploitation of the weak. It's another one of those "grand narratives" that reinforce the status quo.
Sure, our present culture is very tolerant of artistic creativity, but that creativity is only allowed to exist within the context of capitalism. Art that doesn't make money is relegated to obscurity.
Every human society is based on domination and oppression. And they all think that they're not.
The delusion that we're moving towards a just society is the foundation of every social hierarchy.
I agree. A little related.. In France, TV in general is owned by certain (liberalist-minded) billionaires and there is an active propaganda set against the left-wing parties by the far-right. We've seen this in action during the current ongoing election. In the results from the last round, far-right came out on top. Remarkably, the left came out second, a sign that all is not completely lost for France at least. But it's likely France will be governed under a far-right government very soon - a party which wants to prevent immigration into France and remove basic human rights for all, eg, in healthcare. Those who will benefit are the bourgeois, not the masses who continue to exist (whether the former want to know it or not) at the base of the pyramid. That's the UK's bread and butter. It's been sad for me, realising that this is happening to France, a country which was a symbol of progression and democratic freedom to the rest of the West. And it's demoralising to see how the left-wing party in France are labelled as 'anti-semitic' by the far-right, simply because they call for an investigation into the war crimes committed within Gaza, a current war zone. Killing civilians unprovoked and bombing hospitals are both war crimes, for example, which is what Israel has committed against Palestine. They do not say Hamas should not be investigated and condemned for their own war crimes. But they are labelled as anti-semitic, nonetheless. This is spread in the media by the far-right, which is only possible because most big TV channels in France are owned by billionaires who align with the far-right. There can be no fair vote when propaganda is being exercised so freely and unbridled in the media. Either we need to remove that power from certain people, or people in general need to become educated that the media is not unbiased and they need to do their own fact-checks. I fear it will have to be the latter, at the rate far-right ideologies are being voted into power across the West in today's world. Italy, for example, now ruled by a fascist government. In answer to your last remark, I think it's an illusion that 'we have all the autonomy'. I say it's that we have no autonomy at all. Unless we're in with the majority, which are sadly the most manipulated groups, and so we must continue to be oppressed by those who are supposed to lead and serve us. It's a bloody joke, honestly. Revolution will come, but maybe not in our lifetimes sadly.
You’re so right… I think because artist/creatives are still battling capitalism and being “commercial enough”. Money is king it seems
The ¨anything can be art¨ thing was revolutionary at the time. When Duchamp put a urinary in an art exhibition, he was asking the visitors questions like ¨is this art just because I put it here¨? It was profound. The problem is that once that question was made, repeating it makes no sense. most of all the ¨modern art¨we see in a gallery is just a version of that same question. only that instead of making the question, now it's an affirmation. Galleries don't want us to put their pieces into question; they want us to assume that they are undoubtedly ART just because they are there, and therefore they are worth whatever price they attach to it. The ¨anything can be art¨now is just a market strategy, so they can literally sell ANYTHING as ¨art¨. That's the sad reality of the ¨art¨ busiinnes in a nutshell
Gallery is getting tired
yesss, will we ever know what the artists really meant by doing the art?
Anything can be art. Especially things that are not inside an art gallery
bingo
@@user-sg4ov7ng4hbut does it really matter what the artist means by the art they create? Aren't we supposed to create our own opinions and interpretations? We give the art a meaning?
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Some might call it a lack of originality but I honestly love that people are looking to the past for inspiration, and adhering to different aesthetics. I can’t remember a time when Latin music was as mainstream as it is now. Kendrick Lamar becoming one of the greatest rappers, period. K-pop and music from other countries dominating the world. Old artists coming back and being introduced to younger ones on a large scale through TikTok, you hear the influence of older periods in Beabadoobee, Chappell Roan. This is the best time for music.
People have always looked to the past, anything that seemed new like punk or psychedelia or whatever else that happened in the 20th century was birthed out of nostalgia for previous art. Nothing is ever new. Anything you see as a today problem has always been there, the interconnectedness of the modern world just amplifies it to a bigger degree than before
@@kelechi_77 that’s literally what I saying.
@@3mi3mi u said past inspo is seen as a lack of originality by ppl so i just said its always been like that
Yeah, and they call it satanic by just doing that😓
theres so much good music out there, i feel we just aren’t platforming the right people.
I am a very creative person - but I'm poor as dirt because I happen to be autistic and it's difficult for me to find gainful employment - and no, running back to live with Mum and Dad is not an option for me. We may live in an era of creativity, but the sad fact is that only those artists of a more comfortable background are able to fully express their genius, instead of being trapped in survival mode 24/7. I do try to admire rather than envy those who have succeeded, but sometimes I do feel sad.
Yeah at the start when he was talking about how anyone can express themselves however they want I was just looking at my 1 outfit wardrobe and thinking "if you're rich"
@@ogpandamonium *stares at all the homeless people in my city*
I wonder how they'd express themselves if they had nicer outfits.
PS: I have a job now, so I can afford better clothing. Not everyone is lucky as me, though.
É muito triste, não somos verdadeiramente livres no capitalismo
@@ogpandamoniumI know people with incredible fashion who almost exclusively thrift
@@norikokomikado damn I'm sorry somehow I didn't fully process the comment when I wrote mine. I'm glad you've managed to find a job now, all the best
7:02 I think lady Gaga also had a lot of inspo from drag culture and balls
of course, I'm planning on making a different video about the art of drag soon!
@Sagethis oh cool! I'm really looking forward to that, your videos are excellent and I love hearing your take on things. 🙂
Lady Gaga has been well known, for quite some time now, to have ripped her entire look off of others. Outfits barely altered, worn by people making far more of a statement, than she could ever have dreamt of.
I'm glad someone here said this. This is true!
@@Nova_Avalon boo… this is common knowledge
very interesting video but the last bit of the video is a bit ill-informed. the whole idea that humanity is on a linear path of development, continually evolving until reaching a final fully advanced destination, is a teleological perspective. it relies on the idea that the historical timeline is chronological, and that humans are ever improving. this is simply not true, there are oscillations in human progress from whatever angle you look at it. and besides, “progress” is so subjective you can’t really attach it to the way humans interact with their world across time. by referring to past humans as primitive, we devalue them, and place their history and perspectives below ours. this is such a prevalent issue that people often disregard it. we are not “better” than the past, and we never will be. we are simply different, as is every era of time.
@@ivyvoo this comment is such a perfect example of postmodernism & “murky” concepts of truth/ being skeptical of objectivity haha
But I think what you are describing has more to do with “black and white thinking”. Yes history is not 100% linear, but it’s also not 100% cyclical and chaotic. In the short term history tends to be more fluid and cyclical, but over long stretches “linear” patterns show themselves. Civilizations can rise and fall, regress and progress but over the grand scheme innovations inevitably compound and technology advances
You know what's funny? If you had a time machine, went to the past amd brought people from the past to our age most of them would probably say their society was somehow better, like we're fucked up or something.
And, like every age after we stopped worshipping tradition, we think the same of the past.
How can you justify your belief that we aren't better?
We have made technological advancements that have improved the human experience. Our production for scientific advancement is off the charts right now.
@@rarelyobscurescience does not improve life unless it is used for solutions for actual problems. Science is merely understanding and has nothing to do with improvement. Applied science neither good or bad. It is all about how it is applied and enabling people to understand for themselves.
@@Sagethisyour reply is very low resolution compared to the point made above .. the Overton window appears through many different lenses and this is exactly why human “progress” is in fact cyclical .. the oscillation described above has been churning for thousands of years
I do think that we’re living in a very creative time but I don’t think that right now is the best time to be a creative. Everything is so much more expensive and it’s not only harder to make a living as an artist but there also aren’t as many spaces where artists can form communities that aren’t on the internet or at an overpriced college.
It is true for some people who dont have time to be creative on certain things that they want to do. And I get that sometimes it's their way of life because of this and that. However, I heard that you can become creative with learning yourself on financial help and education. How? By looking on the structure of the basics, you want to learn how the structure/basics work, then when you have the basics down, you can do whatever you wanna do with your knowledge, by being creative on anything with financial education. I am aware that it's not for everyone because of time/materials, but if you think about it a bit, what do you want to do when you have unlimited resources today than in the past? Certainly, it's possible that there are some who wants to be wealthy/in the middle/poor, it's only you that have the wheel to steer on your own path.
that has been the state of the world since forever relatively speaking this is the easiest time to become an artist unrionically there has never been as many artist in any point in history
Its not a good time to be an artist because art or artists are no longer special.
Post modernism has kind of been harmful on working class progressive movements for this reason. People take this “no restraints” outlook and apply to society. As if a liberal society is a free society and not just limited by its own social structure like capitalism also.
This kinda terrifies me because what if.. this is like a new Renaissance that people will discuss about in the future (just like we now talk about the last one). I just had the thought of academics looking back at Postmodernism, Foucault, Beauvoir and Lady Gaga.. just like they went back in the 1500s and rediscovered Plato and the ancient philosophers.
oh gosh I hope you are wrong... I hope a new Renaissance will come soon but if this is it, we are living in Idiocracy: superficial and empty inside.
I feel like we are in it rn
Kinda true, more.and.more people are renaissance men or women, do multiple things like stich, draw, make music, make animation, stream all from one person, in the future people are gonna be alot of things, new forms of media we can't picture yet, as technology progresses new forms of art could be created too, like how complex music has become with fl studio or digital art
People in the Renaissance(intellectuals) felt they were in a way different world than Medieval times
@@cozumel5608Haha, then the past is still more remote yet. If Enlightenment thought is characterised by a radical break with the past, then post-modernity is characterised by its dissolution. We are stranded in a psychotic present & there is nothing liberatory about it.
I think that creativity as an element of the human experience has remained largely static. What we parcel out as indicators of said creativity still default of on artistic figureheads, exemplified pretty clearly in your nomination of the celebrities you cited. Art subcultures have always existed to such degrees, mediums ability to amplify has changed.
Wow. I need a couple Of days to process this post. Wow
There are undoubtedly way more subcultures now than there were in the past and it's all a symptom of and a contributor to our atomization. I don't know what you mean by creativity has "remained static". Certainly we haven't always been innovating at the same rate. Doesn't mean what's coming out now is any good but I just can't agree with you to be honest.
@RuthvenMurgatroyd I regarded creativity as an element of human experience as largely static. And I asserted that subcultures have always existed to such degrees, not whether or not there were more or less. It's okay if you don't agree with me.
Yes, I thought the video centered more on aesthetics rather than into Art itself, Doja herself defined her music as generic pop which gave her tons of money and even music veterans have defined today's music industry as fast food.
I almost do not listen to modern music but I'm happy to live in this time, but still understand its flaws.
Art is only "good" and "creative" if people like it. This era seems free but yet only for certain people it seems. (conventionally attractive people ). At least that's what I see.
how is attractivness related to this video at all?
You're talking about celebrities, not all celebs are artists, not all artists are attractive or celebs, Yayoi Kusama is a great example, she's not conventionally attractive, she's old, and still she is the most respected artists of the decade, she even became a celebrity which wasn't her goal
This is a real viewpoint
I’ve been saying thisss finally someone else agrees.
@@suenoslucidos3899 Yet not much people know who she is by her name alone
This video is like a god-send at this moment in my life! 😭 It explained a lot of reasons why I feel the way I do about my life at present and about life in general. I study history and social, cultural and human development but I’ve been stumped for quite a while on why I don’t know where to take my life. I have completed the phase of my life that has emptied out the societal “hand-me-down” templates of how to live, how to operate oneself and especially, express individuality. You said it 💯 when you said we have so much freedom NOW and yes, I guess that is exactly what I’m struggling with at 38 as a millennial. I have completely abandoned my upbringing, religion, the soul crushing experience of the 9-5 and many many mental constructs. Once you get to this level of freedom…you have two choices. Languor in the remnants of the past and let it slowly conform you again or open a door to a new frontier and for whatever reason I have been stuck from leaving the past. I’m scared, but I want to. I’ve never cared to burn bridges, start from scratch or lose my identity BUT nothing seems to ever take form fully within and without of me. Maybe I have more things to break within myself than I realize. It’s hard to find something to live for and currently I’m bitter, bordering nihilistic and just fading away. It sucks but hopefully I make it out and add to an amazing legacy of post modern art, ideals & expectations and leave my mark. That’s really all I want personally for myself. 🥲
Thank you for mentioning mother Cain 🩷🩷🩷
Björk preceded Gaga by two decades. Not only that, her music actually matched her expression in fashion. Not taking away from what current artists do now. Doja Cat is really slaying things with her maximalist style. But when it comes to authentic artistic expression, I don’t think anybody could top prime-era Björk. She’s the Picasso of this sh!t Rather surprised she’s not included in this conversation.
100% agree
bjork didn't changed mainstream. gaga did. it's not about who were the first (graces jones preceded bjork btw) but the one that caused a lasting and large impact in pop culture.
@@sam-mn2cg I’ll have to disagree that Björk didn’t have impact. Gaga’s music appealed to the mainstream while Björk appealed to those who understood her style. In the 90s, the coolest sh!t was whatever was least popular and actually had substance. And if that’s your basis off what “trends” then yeah, I disagree fully. The fact she ignored mainstream trends, to me, was impact enough. But I will agree with you on Grace Jones. She was another precursive icon.
@@sam-mn2cg I disagree, what Gaga has changed? nothing... her music is catchy but I never bought an album of her, I find her too superficial, meanwhile I have all Borjk records, each of them unique, deep and interesting. It's true that people like Grace Jones and Nina Hagen existed before, only for some years because Bjork was a child star and made her first punk-rock band, the sugarcubes, in the 80s, already showcasing what a solo Bjork would be able to do. Love Doja cat but nothing is really new since the late 90s, artist nowadays are good at recycling old material but show no originality.
@@sam-mn2cg if everybody would think like you, we wouldn't know most of the famous painters and artists, because the majority weren't acknowledge by the mainstream in their own times...
I was just telling my friend this! Not about singularity, but about digital music and art creation. Now that everyone has a chance to create and express themselves, more and more people will become artists and content creators and musicians and writers and designers, etc. Without actually having a career in it. It will just become second nature to create.
I actually think singularity is scary given that people love their individuality😅. And i love my individuality.
And now everyone has a chance to create. With AI now everyone can create.
A world full of shit art by incompetent people pretending to be artists
not really. Since the process of creating something is eliminated.Think of it in the process of creating concept art, concept artists has to explore and learn about the different options and experiment with different looks and make lore about those looks. If you just prompt it in AI, your already given a generic result, most people who dont have that creative 'insight', that people who have more experienced had, would just be okay with mediocrity because 'its better than nothing'. I mean youtube already got you covered on tutorials, you just need to put in effort. @@rarelyobscure
Omg now it makes for me perfect sense why i love Gaga and Lana the same time with same amount of big love. It's because of their courage of pushing art in their direction
This is just an experiment:
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Honestly I kinda feel like we're living in the complete opposite . I feel like art and modern culture is in an absolute cultural stagnation . Back in the 2000s when you looked back at the 80s it looked like a completely different world , the music , fashion , movies , it all looked completely alien by the early 2000's, while today , when we look back at the early 2000's , it doesnt seem that much different , sure the fashion and music has changed , but a lot of the ideas and concepts that were introduced in this decade is still around today , like phones, the internet , ect . We also keep seeing big companies always milking the same licenses because it sells more than actually creating something new . I think the fact that a lot of people of our generation are looking back at the past to get inspiration is because our culture has become so stagnant and dull that they look back at generations that had something . Take a look at minimalism , it's litteraly a design theory thats meant to appeal to everyone without actually pleasing someone , just blend enough to please everyone because it lacks any charm or personnality .
thats so true everything is so sad now it just gives off shein and tiktok ifykwim
most sane comment here. Very well said. The peak of art was during the 50-80's. Were now at the bottom of the curve. It's both good and bad as a creative person to be born now, or 10-20 years ago living today. Everything is just wrong.
Couldnt agree more
best comment. up!!
I would agree slightly but i think there has been an explosion in creative outlets. And im pretty sure more music genres exist now then back in the day. Another example i think is that anyone can make a youtube video/tiktok that can be seen by anyone in the world..that wasn't possible before 2000.
You can literally do anything creative and share/sell your art online
I love how Lana combines genre and era, like old americana + trap + pop. It what makes her song timeless.
Awesome.
This some complete bullshit pop is short for popular it means that the music is as basic and unpolarizing as possible so that the majority will like it. Pop music doesn’t last very long it’s the opposite of timeless it’s popular at the moment because many people like it (at this moment) but it’s not unique so no one will care in the future. pop music is usually trash that’s why no one cares about most of old pop music.
Seeing Gaga in concert is like having an alien species visit Earth to perform vibrations we're all in love with.
DUDE! Cindy freakin' Sherman!!! Thank you for bringing her up!!! I don't hear anyone ever talking about her and it's a shame. This is the first video of yours that I've seen and bring up her is enough for me to hit that subscribe button. Dope video!!
Love me some cindy sherm
thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed!
"the internet has democratized our individual realities" is a really great quote. awesome video!!
freedom ≠ creativity
you are conflating freedom with creativity, which is not the same thing as some of the best creative works are born out of limitations.
@@Luka38 this is a good point thanks for mentioning. I guess better wording would’ve been “freedom to create however and whichever way we want”
@@Sagethis Not really, we have as much censorship now as we did 50 years ago, the subjects may change but the way of dealing with controversy has gone back decades, imo.
@@ClaraLemlichRules 100% agree. Especially with the birth of cancel culture.
@@Sagethis really? don´t see that liberty and don´t see that creativy in any place: music, cinema, magazine´s, tv.
@@oscargonzaloespinozasandov2206 really ?????you're telling me that cinema is less liberated than it was 20 yo ???
this gives me so much comfort and hope for humanity
thankyou
i finally feel like i can express myself properly in society
im subscribing immediately
Ngl, I went into this video skeptical and only clicking it outta boredom but you really blew me away. The way you broke everything down to the most granular level about modern life and art was exceptional. I agree with almost everything you said, bravo
I really like your point of view. I have not thought about how both freeing and empty modern art can be. The greater emphasis on the viewer being able to place all of the value into a piece is very interesting. I think that we have the greatest potential for artistic expression right now, but we have failed to fully realize what this means. I feel that we have also gone into a derivative-based period of time where nothing is a new concept but new take on an old one. My least favorite part about modern art is the commodification of something with far more meaning than monetary value.
Congrats you just made one of my top fav video essays ever!
1:56 the moment I laid my eyes on you I thought his drip is so sick omfg
This is not scary, it gives me peace. It’s so nice to just exist without constraints and the bondage of social constructs. I don’t always understand other people and what they do, but I think it’s nice to just play even if it doesn’t have a deep meaning.
One of the most idiotic videos I have seen on youtube, in a very long time. In the 70s you could be a "starving artist" and live in hells kitchen New York or just off of Sunset Blvd in Los Angles...you CAN NOT do that now. Young people are also lonelier and more depressed than ever before so...where is this perception coming from? Just because everyone has access to the internet and can release music independently, doesn't mean they are actually creative. Its the equivalent of 15 minutes of fame.
One of the most idiotic comments I have seen on youtube, in a very long time. Your idea of the starving artist is very idealistic and not based in reality in any sense, these days you can make more money from your art than people have ever been able to make. You shouldn’t have to be creative to make art. Art is objective. You cant set a standard on something that has no real meaning. People are just as creative now as they were in the past they just have more mediums to express that creativity. You would have to have 20 different people playing an instrument for music made in the 70s now you can have 1 guy and his sister making entire albums in their bedroom on garage band. You completely missed the entire point of this video, people have the freedom to do literally whatever they want and can think of without fear of repercussions because of the culture we have created today. In the 70s you would have been ostracized and disregarded by your community without hesitation for creating the wrong piece of art. You only think that the past was a great time to be a starving artist because you only hear the success stories, now you can get onto social media and see the reality of 6 people in the span of 30 minutes say their paintings/pottery/crochet-works arent selling. He never brought up depression and anxiety because what the hell does that have to do with art?
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> You shouldn’t have to be creative to make art.
Yeah, that's why we have AI """art""" nowadays.
> Art is objective.
You mean subjective, right?
Why was that the most interesting video
I love postmodernism so much I love being unique and self expression omfg it’s the most interesting thing to me
Honestly, I wanted to click away when I saw you (bias, it exists) but then, you just kept on making sense.
I have always stood and wondered in awe of our current time in Human history. We are really in Hyper Reality.
I LOVEEEEEE HOW U DISCUSSED ETHEL CAIN HERE TOO. SHE IS SO TALENTED AND UNDERRATED
If we were living in the freest time ever, then we wouldn't have to struggle just to pay rent for a tiny studio apartment.
Correct. The elite are free to express themselves, not the poor.
we do live in a free era though. I've seen people post random content on tiktok for free and then suddenly they blow up and get invited to events and get paid. Some streamers make money by recording themselves doing the most random stuff, others get paid for playing video games. There's so many possibilities to build wealth nowadays it's up to you now
@@tankdempsey84 that happend a one in a millon person
and is very superficial
@@tankdempsey84it’s a total illusion
To me art has never been so meaningless and unworthy of my time exactly because of the circumstances which allow it to exist. There are zero standards in our society, zero demands to adhere to to in self expression, and so absolutely nothing worth being heard in modern art. They're rebelling against nothing, breaking no boundries, risking nothing, it's just aimless narcissistic expression and self worship. It's completely maturbatory, as content rich as monkeys flinging shit at a canvas. It's all just gibberish.
@@jollygrapefruit786 well said. couldn’t agree more. we don’t struggle- we are probably one of the cushiest generations to exist. everything is accessible and our needs are being met. we’ve been too comfortable for too long and it leads to things like modern art.
Well this is what your forefathers fought for, not for you to be unthankfull like this
Such a deserved blow up moment for u also love that this is a more positive view on the state of the art today
Love the Gaga // Del Rey contrast. Super fascinating. Great to include super recent visuals of Chappell Roan.. her recent performance gave me those Gaga feels with the visuals. We're in exciting times. Great video.
Your vision/ observation of where we’re at in our cultural development is refreshing! Thank you!
I think we might be past postmodernism. Theres post-post-modernism, or metamodernism, which is a progression of postmodernism and is like a synthesis of that and modernism. It involves ideas like 'oscillating' freely between these movements, constructing from deconstruction, finding contradictions, making the impossible possible. It's quite philosophical that way, but I think that's where we're headed
the problem with subversive art is that it becomes just so fucking dull and boring when there’s nothing left to subvert
also the obsession with self-expression is narcissistic asf
@@uwagajedzietramwaj_its not but ok
Great point about how we have more access to past art than ever before. There's a lot of interesting discussions about repeating patterns in history, but what's most fascinating to me about it is the linear progression of technology and the proliferation of free information
I love the creative freedom and focus on people deciding for themselves how to live and express themselves being the mainstream narrative of today, but I do think it has the catch of a sometimes toxic sense of individualism and people having a lot of struggles figuring out how to build community and share community with people who made different choices from them.
As a psychotic lover of ALL forms of ART (including music *paws up* & writing) this is so effing beautiful!
I think what people dislike is that all this is a reflection of how individualistic our society as become that art is all about being unique, almost unrelatable, and it's impossible for any normal middle-class person to hope to make that kind of art because it relies on money, fame and connexions, or even just having the time and ressources to sit down and create, art takes TIME and we are selling ours to corporations meanwhile people who went into like cgi or design to try to get a "real" job are losing their jobs to AI, like art isn't that nice when only the elite can do it
The average/normal person is working class, not middle class
I love this analysis sooo much!
❤
THANK YOU.
Interesting, thank you. However, I do not quite understand the point made about transhumanism. To enjoy art, it is necessary to feel emotions. Emotions are felt in the organic body. Merging the organic body with machines and technology would very likely alter emotions in an unforeseen way, probably have a numbing effect similar to psychotropic medication. Maybe they lead to emotions not being felt in the same way, maybe not at all. Leaving the organic body behind will also not lead to liberation, but into a trap. Emotions, which are felt in the organic body, exist, because they are our connection to our spiritual self. If the body is modified or left behind to the point that feelings can no longer be felt by the individual, then creativity and art will be lost. Is this really worth the risk?
Yes, very much.
If spiritualism isn't able to exist in our distant future bionic bodies it never existed
Great video! I'm glad RUclips brought me here. The Lana section made me rethink the entire way I express my self through clouthing. I was feeling stuck in a loop of following trends cos I thought they look cool but completly forgot to dress in a way I feel my self, stylish and comfortable. Now I feel motivated to look for myself again through fashion
this is one of the best video essays ive seen honestly
9:23 “Lana Del Rey represent this rejection of capitalistic materialism “
Lana: “Money is the anthem of success”
inteligence progessiveness and creativity are all one. as a society becomes more inteligent and advanced it will also become more progressive and creative
I’ve seen a lot of change, but it still seems for the most part that “all you need are looks and a whole lot of money”
I was examining outfits i saw in public and categorizing them by an aesthetic when I realized this, it's a very neurodivergent trait of mine but I love fashion and disecting it. We live in an era of so many unique and specific communities that we can delve into any topic and express ourselves in any way. I mean the idea that a Midwesterner could explore an upcoming non mainstream artist while studying spirituality and being online friends with some dude into the same stuff in Serbia would be impossible just 50 years ago and now we're able to all learn whatever we want and become well versed on anything and express ourselves through anything. This is a hell of a time to be alive, we can't let doomerism keep us from experiencing it.
I never normally comment on yt vids but all the points you've gathered, the way you've articulated them. amazing.
I would love to see your opinions on Björk!
0:30 lizzzzyyyy
Creative aesthetically but its all pretty juvenile in terms of musical advetureness, soul and sophistication, usually
The problem with postmodernism is "a copy, of a copy, of a copy." This is how art becomes "content."
All art has always been a copy of a copy especially renaissance art which followed a rather linear pattern of looking at a recent past artists technique and copying it and adding something else to it.
@@largeymargey5651 That's influence, and everybody steals. Art, lit, music, sculpture, science--The artist uses the influences to make the art his own. I'm talking more about sociology--the medium is the message. Think about memes--sure, they can be art, but they remove the arts original meaning.
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Post irony
I thought you did a fantastic job showcasing the points of today’s postmodern expressionism and how individuals are learning to express their own mythologies through art or what they wear or music. Awesome job 💛
We’re kind of in a metamodern era. Postmodernism is gone. I think we live in a throw spaghetti at the wall era. The creation process is so fast that there’s little time to refine ideas and edit. And it’s a surer bet to (in music, at least) to look wild but sound the same. I don’t think we live in a creative time at all - every show is the same, songs are all the same. It’s just beige. It’s a beige era.
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Me when I don't know anything about hyperpop
@@katzea.a7880 dead
@@katzea.a7880hyperpop is bs. I am not a money machine
Doing everything does not mean it is creative. It also might mean that people do not know what art is for.
@filipsan11 What would you say art is for? (I wouldn't know how to answer that)
@@lisaw.2562 Real life is art. Everything else is just faking life. Art brings you to the edge of reality so you can contemplate what it is but it is never finished as life never stops. it is my view on the subject. So yeah, everything can be art depending on situation but most of the time we see people coping with existence rather than taking it by the horns.
Sneaking Chappell Roan in there is hilarious actually.
This video was perfect. Thanks for the upload.
this is so interesting and ive never thought about pop culture or art in this way
Very shallow, naive and privileged analysis, but I've come to expect that. Yes, our consumption is decentralised, we have more choices offered, but what isn't decentralised is the system that offers those choices. You didn't mention class even once in your vid, but class divides are growing greater and greater very quickly. In fact, if you look at your conclusion you can see how this point of view isn't postmodern at all - the fact that you envision a linear evolution from monkey to machine singularity, it's a modernist model, it shows that there is a structure underlying all this that hasn't been overcome or decentralised. It sounds a lot closer to Hegel than postmodernism. If you look at what's being produced nowadays, despite the seeming diversity, it all points again in one general direction. There's no real diversity of opinions, it all starts to look like the same liberal democratic ideology. But there's an underlying structure to it, an entrenched system of power and of global economic relations. This is why you should never stop at just analysing culture in a vacuum. In a way, art is still incredibly limited, maybe even more limited than ever before. Why can't we bring art into our lives so far that it turns into a revolution? Why do we all in actuality keep living similar lives if we're actually so diverse? Of course people are "finding God" again when he never even left. God is dead, but his shadow lives on in the form of the State. And this whole New Age spiritualism thing is only a further development of that same system, it follows a lot of the same ideas and presents itself almost as THE ideology of capitalism. A specific kind of individualism, a specific set of "community" values, a specific view of "ascending consciousness". It's all the same capitalist bullshit. No. We NEED intolerance. We NEED violence. We NEED to be able to destroy. And to create actual alternatives. Not just follow trends and passively pick out different aesthetics. I have nothing against meaninglessness, I have against the singular underlying system of meaning that has weaponised meaninglessness to deny us actual opposition and creativity.
Thank you someone with a brain
"We need to like what i like! only what i like is good!"
this is honestly such a expected reactionary bs
@@dresirednix what? Who's the reactionary, me? For calling out how liberalism is reactionary, i.e. preserving of the status quo? Insane. No this isn't about liking what I like, this is about something more, it's about destabilisation and non-conformity. I mean I guess if to you that is just another "thing" someone can like then sure, but that's an incredibly naive point of view that fall exactly under what I was talking about: you think of non-conformity as another choice on the conveyor belt of capitalism. But I think of it as something aimed at crushing capitalist totalitarianism.
I've been itching for content like this, and I think your takes are well researched and founded. Looking forward to more videos, especially gaga and Lana. Lana to me is like a post-modern American landscape artist. Gaga is a whole force on her own, even including her work with jazz music. Also very very verryyyyy curious about your take on her ARTPOP era, in terms of the art world and being a student to art.
I really enjoy listening to your thoughts and opinions on music and all art forms. It’s so insightful. My favorite always being Lana Del Rey ❤
I love the conclusion. Great ideas. Good video!! ❤
All eras think they are free.
I LOVE you acknowledged Cindy Sherman. It's also interesting that she is one of the biggest direct influences for Marina's Electra Heart.
I want that Doja Cat video. Your videos are so well researched and written, I think you'd do an amazing job. You also have taste and you just get it!!!
"We Are Living In The Most Creative Time EVER" meanwhile almost everything that's mentioned is just some kind of subversion of already existing norms and beliefs
all creativity is built off the previous art generation's understandings, norms, assumptions, and beliefs. no art is ever made in a vacuum and creativity will always be based on how changing social attitudes, technologies, and tastes react to the art of the past and change it
I think it’s an interesting because I enjoyed hearing you discuss this topic. You have a very striking energy and look that I feel also describes what the video was mainly discussing, the ability to freely express yourself. Great video!
we definitely are not.
How so?
We are not in a time of immense change, we are in stagnation with art being borrowed not created. I sight Mark Fisher as the base of understanding of this. The youths arrogance over its ignorance helps it to be blind that in this era nothing new has been created...onl borrowed. From Lana Del Reyes vintage look to Dua Lipas Future Nostalgia... I mean WTF! its in the name, FUTURE NOSTALGIA. This is not creation, it is stagnation at the end of history... no more waterfalls, just a puddle dehydrating in the sun of time.
Interesting take. Are you suggesting that humanity is at a cultural end? Or perhaps that AI will pick up from here?
wow Doja and Lana are literally my fav artists and you picked as examples of creative artists - i can say i have great taste :P
i am grateful for this... made me tthink alot about my life now and how i can express myself lol
I really like this take actually. I’ve been personally trying to understand what this period of time will look like to future people. I’ve always thought culture seemed so decentralized. Like most periods in history have specific overarching qualities, while this current time feels like a jumble of ideas and callbacks. I’ve looked at this decentralization with a negative and frustrated tone. But this is giving me a new way to perceive our current time.
I love watching Doja Cat's outfits. The same way I used to be so curious and obsessed with wondering what lady gaga would be wearing next at an award show!!! i miss lady gaga days. i know she's evergreen but its funny how time flies.
In a time where people are less likely to make true decisions to create their own authentic life, or to have access to resources to really be able to do that, art is definitely NOT imitating real life for many people. It is more of an escapism.
I think people have to believe in something to create anything of actual value.
Not all forms or instances of expression are equal: A photograph of a baseball cap is not equal in artistic expression to Mozarts requiem mass - that is an insane, chaotic way to view art; and imo, morally unjust.
Culture needs some form of order, or its all just meaningless chaos: I've been playing guitar for a week and I'm as valuable and worthwhile as jimmy hendrix because everything is subjective and I say so.
Somethings are better than other things, some things win and others loose - its not fair or equal, thats reality whether you want to accept it or not
Who gets to decide something is better than something else? You ARE as valuable as Hendrix, simply for being born. This is your dream and you get to decide your worth. Culture doesn’t exist it was merely manufactured, so much society brainwashing, Be You!
fantastic video essay.
It's refreshing to haer such a positive look on our current times.
I did not look at it like that before and I'm thankful to you for giving me a new perspective!
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Honestly, you can talk all you want about how we are so creative and what not now. But the truth is that what we are making is just plain ugly. It's all flat, always going for shock value and repetitive. Things not having a structure is not a good thing. What we are doing is just an artistic version of senseless screaming without a rhythm or reason, which I feel reflects back on people mental health too.
You know what you should do if you really want to be transgressive today? Make something truly beautiful and good. Don't write music about getting wasted in a bar and sleeping with hundreds people or stacking paper. Write music about something serene, calm and beautiful.
there are plenty of artists that write serene and beautiful music now. are you not looking hard enough?
@@crystalliscenceMy response to this would be is that you can always find some exception to the norm. But I'm asking to rebel against the norm. You know, La Sagrada Familia is still being build today and it's fair to say it has a very different philosophy to it than most buildings have. Yet if I complain about architecture today, it would be weird to say "But La Sagrada Familia is still being build today". That's true, but it's an outlier.
In the same way, I feel MOST art today is just weird for the sake of weird. It doesn't really inspire or give you any great feeling. It just gives you a big "meh" and confusion. Like compare a romanticism painting to most stuff you see in a modern art gallery. Can you imagine an popular artist today making an image, song, building, statue, whatever you want, for the sake of it bringing beauty into the world? It's always to be shocking in some way and eye catching.
I'm saying instead of that, make something which is honest to you as a person, that makes you feel more comfortable, hopefully inspires you, and brings beauty into the world.
@@spinachslurp9176 well there are many artists that are "rebelling against the norm" now by making peaceful, comfortable music. laufey and mitski is a *very* popular example. and weyes blood and ichiko aoba are personally my favorite artists too. also in general piano and soft acoustic music is alive and well- i find it weird to complain about a lack of these kinds of artists when thats NOT the case at all, you're discrediting their work when they most definitely aren't rare as you think and very much have a strong and loving fanbase behind them. same with movies and books. beautiful art exists everywhere today, and is actually even popular, you just have to keep an open eye out for it.
i agree that many artists today *can* make the opposite of this kind of work. and you're allowed to complain about it. however that's the beauty of modern society. we're allowed to make ANY type of art we desire, and that includes both the beautiful and the ugly. and if you want to focus on the former, then go for it, there's nothing stopping you! just saying that they're more prolific then you think.
all of it? how ignorant
Great video and great summarized explanation of our trajectory, from origin to future state.
I think it's important to address the last point in the video: our "merging with our technology" in our path to transhumanism needs to be discussed more and we need to have a point of view that is separate from our current techno-optimist perspective.
We are not in control of our technological progress. Techno-humanism is much closer than, I think, most of us expected it to realistically be. Even more pressingly, it is coming before other, more urgent, technological advancements that are required for our perpetuation as a species: we aren't meeting our climate goals, we are far from resolving social inequalities, we're in the middle of a mass extinction we are causing, and the rate of technological progress to resolve these issues is much slower than the rate of advance for techno-humanism. This is only happening because, as with any other revolution, it is being used against the revolutionaries by the powers that be.
We are though, as @FaceTatt Philosophy said, in our most connected era ever - which means our actionary and reactionary capacity is greater than ever. We can self-organize collective action better than ever. We need to take advantage of that to mitigate the impact of revolution manipulation and retain as much individual power and independence as possible so that our capacity for self expression and freedom increases with our transition to technological transhumanism rather than decreases through over-reliance on corporate (or state) - mandated technological integration.
Just consider that this video is extremely indulged in its own bubble. Like, it captures one reality of modern day societies and maybe the one that hints at the future the most, but on the other hand, it represents such an elitist and privileged view of the world. It‘s not necessarily criticism of the video, but it must be noted that it is pretty oblivious to anything happening outside a few bubbles of society and to many societal and political problems too.
I have a feeling that this is going to become my favorite video essay 💘
I agree yet people really decided they need something to complain about as they think that modern art is degrading, when it’s not. Like don’t you see that more people than ever before can make their own things and be creative because of our technological advancements and freedom of speech, though some parts of the world have more of this than others it’s better than what we have in the past, so we need to be thankful.
Such a short sighted upload. The 21c was the birth of "metamodern", somehow you have managed to avoid the very present art. We are post-post modern.
So glad this came up on my FYP. Great stimulating video!
Ngl having too much of something doesn’t make it good. I feel like we are losing culture and going to things of the past to make us happy. Almost like our society is scared of moving forward and is holding on to the past or taking inspo from everywhere. This gen promotes hedonism, we can have it all. We have it all but does anything matter anymore. A.I is a thing now too so people can even recreate people’s art and sell it. Nothing matters and nothing is yours. We are seeking belonging and community.
I love the art on your walls
This video feels like a baby obssessing over his/her belly button. Yes postmodernism was cool, and the current metamodernism we are living in can be fun, but it's also an environment build around the idea of previous references being twisted and thrown around without actually proposing anything completely new that doesn't feel derivative or too influenced by previous trends, now this is only a problem if we think about culture and societal progress as a direct linear process (which is not) but since we can't forget classical things and then revamped them like what happened during the Renaissance, we have kinda made peace with the idea of recycling old trends every x years or a couple of decades max while not modifying things too much, just refreshing some elements here and there, as if refreshing an online page, hoping to see something unique coming out of the same portal.
I think capitalism has had a deleterious influence at insulating the creative environment by supressing or at least difficulting the creation and popularization of innovative ideas, while benefitting the comercialization of the same art over and over, even when it feels very tired and rancid, 'cause there will always be younger and impressionable people to sell things to, and if you can make them feel superior by rejecting the old and acquiring the new, every single time a not so innovative thing comes out, the people that control the market narrative and determine what is desirable to own or to be, those people know their lifes have been resolved forever, they dont really have to innovate, just keep selling and supporting the same trash with slight tweaks every couple of years and laugh all the way to the bank.
Thus, I reject the main idea of this video and the man behind it. Yes, You can express all You want, You can put whats in your mind out in the world just like You did with this video, but just because you felt something engaging in that activity, do not expect me or anyone one else to value the product or the process behind it as "art". You will be chewed up and spat out in an instant, some will swallow you whole, others will regurgitate after some time, and eventually some will defecate whatever they took from you and your work.
Lastly, owning the possibility to participate in any creative endeavor, doesn't mean the output of said activity Will be original nor creative, it may be influential and get referenced and discussed. It may pay the bills, just like it might not become a partyof the Zeitgeist or influence the work of future minds.
We wouldn't have all the art we've accumulated throughout history without the hardships and limitations inherent to each time, besides, being impotent or feeling vulnerable, miserable and wronged are great fuels for artistic creation that goes beyond abstraction and the constant sharing with your peers. I love the artist You mentioned and the ones You didn't (like Björk) but I can't concede and accept the premise of this video, specially since 'murican mainstream media is not and will never be the end all be all behind art, you guys are hanging out in a giant playground and feel like you're performing on a huge venue for the world to observe, consume, imitate and follow, outside perspectives are heavily needed to add nuance on what you guys, with your homogenizing presence, shall do to move out of the stagnating state of affairs you're currently in, you've even managed to make drag, food, traveling and sex feel stale.
I wanted to believe in your argument because Lady Gaga and Doja Cat *ARE* extremely creative, but they are still outliers compared to most other artists. Right now, mainstream art is as safe, derivative, and uninspired as ever and will likely become even more so thanks to AI content creation. So while new technology was intended to unlock limitless human potential for creativity, I believe that it is really just contributing to an oversaturated market of mediocrity. This may have the unintended effect of helping the truly original artists rise to the top, however, and that could be seen as a good thing.
Doja Cat rips off small artists ideas. Fka Twigs one example
This was INCREDIBLE!
thank you so much!💓
I fell in love! subbed 4 life! very well said, I completely agree, pomo is mostly demozied
I love the era and I love your video, lady gaga and lana are huge cultural icons. we stan them.
Thank you so much for this video. I love it so much please keep going.
I throughly enjoyed this video! Subbed 🌟