579 RSW Putting A New Clutch In A 1960 MF 35 Tractor
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
- Putting a new clutch in a farm tractor (MF35 in this case) is fairly easy. Breaking the tractor apart and then putting it all back together... well that's a different story.
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As soon as I saw you torque those 30# bolts down without the alignment tool in place, I knew your clutch plate wasn't centered. With the alignment tool in place and the 30# bolts are torqued down, then remove those bolts holding the springs back. It would have made your job a lot simpler. Great content though Jerry, even though I lost my voice screaming at the screen when I saw you doing that.
I was screaming along with you.
Where I live we always have to turn our own dummy alignment shafts out of wood. You Americans have it easy ;)
When I was younger, a day we rebuilt generators m/dynamos, we would take trashed out input shafts and turn them into alignment tools on an old south bend lathe. Now we have plastic whoopies shipped with every new clutch.
When I do a clutch, I make sure the tool slides in and out with ease. The difficulty of getting it in and out bothers me.
The bread trick is so cool! Used it many times. Just keep the crust out. It works better.
10 out of 10 for persistence... well done
I never had to do that on old 1954 Ferguson thank God!
I remember helping dad put clutches in a few times. He had a cut off shift to use as an allingment tool.
Yeah, that old garage....that's where I learned some good cuss words that would come in handy in life.
I'm 67 next month and I still know em all!
Love these videos!
Mechanics silent prayer "Give us this day, our daily bread."
Afternoon brother
Jerry of All TRADES Great Job Jerry!!!!!
I am impressed!
Thanks Jerry wow what a hard job you need a holiday now 🙂
Seeing that bearing removed with bread was amazing.. worth the entire video.. 👌
Jerry you did real good on that tractor but you made one mistake mainly that I seen right off the bat. Im an X Eastern Airlines truck & auto mechanic. Snugging up or tightening up the pressure plate bolts first without aligning the clutch disc with spline tool all the way into the pilot bearing and clutch disc is a mistake. Do that first loose then snug the pressure plate bolts then torque them its a common error. Also a trade trick youll never have alignment problems again I was taught this years ago. Get some long bolts maybe 3 or 4 of them 4-5 inchs long or longer same thread as the bolts your using to bolt together the two ends. Cut the heads off & Grind them to a slight taper point. Space them apart evenly & hand screw them in a bit on one side and this acts as guide pins to align up front to back as your joining them up. Simply remove them after your together.Thats probably no doubt how the factory joins them with guide pins. Works every time but anyhoo you did good either way hopefully you wont have to do this again...Nice Job! ...Glenn
pilot bushing replacement. I used Grease from a grease gun.. same principal, made long Transmission bolts 9" long align the cases while inserting front shafts into the clutch and pilot bushing.
From quaint Rome Iowa, sir this was the best video so far! Reminds of the Paul Reed Smith I tried to fix.........and then threw out of a second story window. That fixed me, and it. Fixed us real good LOL!
Dude, sounds like you were pretty "fixed" already. A PRS? Really???
Good vid. Thanks. I was hoping to learn about how the 2 stage cluth works and proper adjustments.
Good one. Enjoyed watching that.
A gas model 35 I see. I know some will say that diesel is better but the one thing that makes the old gas 35's just as good for baling hay, among other tasks, is the governors. My uncle farmed for years with one, and when I helped him put up hay, I always marveled at how those governors would kick in whenever under a load. Every time the baler plunger would go back to pack a bale, those things would roar to life, throwing more gas to the engine, increasing its RPM's and power -- truly a marvel to witness (for us tractor freaks anyway LOL).
Dude, I love your user name. 🤣🤣🤣
Its a good woman that helps her man split his tractor in half. put that on a tshirt! 💜🏴
I got a few tips from ur video im n the process right now doing it last time i done this was 1984 back n high school vocational class so guess my cousin got his money outta the clutch linings but the pto disc came apart on the splined part of the disc so trying to get get it back n my head i went with welding n fabrication n life i had a short fuse back n the day so welding was my living but I always fix my own stuff so thanks for the help n yes im doing it by myself as I like
I tried the same trick using wet paper instead of bread, and it did not work. Glad to see the method worked for you.
Grease is the proper way.
Grease works too
Now that's using your loaf Jerry👏😀
THanks for all the hints. I was surprised to see you working on a tractor as I've previously seen you working on instruments, but I'm pleased that you could bring your lutherie skills to bear here. Well, bread and dowel at least. Brilliant tip. I'm just dealing with a broken bolt which stops reassembly for at least a day as I think it'll need a helicoil insert. I sympathise with your frustration.
I have seen a lot of things in my life, and I have been around mechanics since 1945, but that bread trick is something new.
Well that was a first for me. Never saw a tractor split apart, much less that kind of clutch. I re-clutched a few cars and trucks. Never a tractor. And it really helps having an alignment tool. Aks me how I know. Thanks for the content Jerry and Emeri.
Alignment sucks, even on an automatic.
Especially, when it's sitting on your chest.
This video proves once again, Nothing beats Jerry.
Good job….done! It’s a tough job!
A man of many talents
LOL on the frustration, If I were you, I would tell myself "I;m getting to old for this crap". Good job Jerry. Keep on smiling.
I knew you'd win the fight Jerry, nice work!
Language concerns ahahaha! I served as a mechanic 18 years and I know all about it, good work Jerry keep her between the hedges big fella.
No rest for the wicked... Say that almost every morning when I get up.
When I rise, in the morning, I stand up, give myself a good stretch and say (#(#&(@&*^@%R!!!!!!
“Riding the clutch” is probably what wore out that throw out bearing and seized it up which wore out the fingers on the clutch. So keep that foot off the clutch pedal when not using it.
Nice trick on the pilot shaft bearing.
First clutch I ever did was my sisters 66 Karman Ghia (VW) and the first thing I learned was to back off the clutch cable adjustment so the Throw Out bearing isn't pushing at all on the clutch which can cause the engine to be stuck while you're trying to pull the engine. Next thing I learned was to use the alignment tool before I tightened the clutch bolts. Once you have them torqued it should slide right out and everything is properly aligned. Otherwise, as you found out, you got to do it all again and I hate doing things twice .Once it's all together adjust the clutch cable so there's just a little play in the clutch pedal, otherwise the TO bearing is always riding on the clutch and you'll have problems again soon. (Oh yeah, if there's any scarring on the flywheel surface you need to remove the flywheel and have it turned, like a brake disc. That surface can ruin a clutch if it's not flat.)
Looks like you did manage to grow that third hand; how handy; lol. 👍
Well, as soon as I saw you tighten up those clutch bolts without the alignment tool in place, I thought "here comes a problem!". The other thing that occurred to me was that the alignment tool can be used as a guide (using a small ruler or similar straight edge) to line up the transmission splines before trying to mate the two parts together. I love your bread trick to remove that ST518 (at least that's what it looked like) pilot bearing. I've always used a slide bearing puller.
Ouch.
This reminds me of when I sided my two story house that sat on a steep slope by myself all off a ladder, or when I replaced the rear brakes and rotors on my van where the emergency drum pads inside the rotor fought removing the rotors, or when I spent an entire summer building a 300 sf summer cabana. Each ended with I am too old for this, everything on me hurts plus I've run out of good swear words.
And, you have to do it again....I'd almost say torch off the loader but then it's harder to sell that way.
so very interesting well done Jerry
Wonder who ever thought that bread would work? Never saw that before .
Thanks that was amazing impressed by your mechanical skills.
I understand the language concerns. My distance Nordic heritage tends to shine through with what I call the Beserker approach. Little Viking term. Basically, I get to cussing and thrashing around until I get it out of my system or it is beaten into submission.
Nun , das war eine ganz normale Reparatur 😅😅😅 Am Ende alles gut . Ja , die Kupplungsscheiben können schon Unterschiedlich sein ,das hatte ich auch schon . Ich habe 2 Goldys Fe 35 , Baujahr 57. Beste Grüße Günni .
You should have put the spline In the pressure plate then add the other clutch plate and ring, install all one unit, bolt in place, then remove the lock down bolts, then remove alignment spline
Way to persevere, Jerry. Reminds me of when I replaced the wheel bearings and removed and serviced the back axle/transmission on my 32 year old Honda mower, armed only with RUclips videos. I actually ordered a new mower at the peak of my frustration then cancelled my order when everything seemed to come together (much to my wife's disappointment). 😂
very very good
Good job, Jerry! Another hard fought victory for you. That tractor and I are the same age. I slowed down the video to .25 speed to see if that bearing had a defect before you pressed it on, and I have to admit that the 62 year-old me laughed like the 12 year-old me while listening to your slowed down voice, lol!
Use grease to remove the old pilot bearing.
It’s fun to be Jerry!
Crumbs the job would have been toast if that hadn’t worked Jerry😉👍
Im getting ready to do this to.
Jerry……! I feel your frustration.the trouble is you didn’t sware the right words? I’ve only done a couple of light clutch repairs but compared to this monster (no comparison): I know it all depends on correct alignment A bit like neck alignment!! Great idea with the bread.! Remember you can always put the new bearings in the freezer a while to shrink a tho or two. Cheers Rob. From the UK
At least you didn’t “do your dough” on a specialised bearing puller!
I'm guessing the frozen throw-out bearing is what ate the arms off the old clutch.
A bread and bearing sandwich. Can’t beat that
Wonder White bread because it's doughy. I first used grease but a old timer showed me that bread trick. Way easier cleanup.
What I've done in the past, and hopefully you never have to do it again, is to slide the alignment tool into the larger splined section in the clutch, and then slide the clutch disc over the end and then install things. That of course doesn't help when getting the two splines inside the bell housing to slide over things. That is always a challenge. Haven't done a clutch on tractor in over 30 years. Hopefully I don't have to do another one. My tractor now is hydraulic drive, so no clutch. That is another can of worms though. :)
Good thing is, it is done you and you can now use the tractor again.
Manuals say fill with grease then drive shaft in
Here's a British cheat.............
Put the pressure plate and clutch or clutches on the gearbox input shaft.......
Put the tractor back together, then from the hole underneath, bolt the pressure plate to flywheel then remove the three bolts that hold the pressure plate compressed.... jobs a good un..
Cheers for this Evan, you are gold:) Will try this tomor,,,,,,, So simple:)
Worked a treat,, cheers
Bread... LOL I think it would have gone faster if you added peanut butter and jelly... LOL Amazing what bread can do.
It might have, but good luck cleaning That out. 😀😀
PS: Maybe the dogs could help. 🤣🤣
Watch a couple of videos on Old Farm Junk 101, he works on rebuilding that old stuff quite often.
lol you can sure make a Mechanic nervous lol hee hee
😂.. „this is not Hollywood“ Text for next T-Shirt
Jerry works on Tractors and Guitars. Is he a classic car guy too? I can easily see him doing routine maintenance on his vehicles.
Now who was the first person to decide that pounding bread in there would pop that out?
Whoever he was, he was pretty slick.
Remove the bearings carrier from the bearing refit the new bearing and dap of grease on clutch fork refit springs adjust shaft and pedal when tracter back together with 3 /16 inch gap free play. Before clutch comes into play . Must have some play on pedal before clutch comes into contact . Mf mechanic
Wow that was one worn out clutch... must have added 10 HP using bearings that actually move... lol
Grease works too...but you didn't center the clutch disk first
Interesting! Was the bread gluten free? Thanks! 😁
Undo pinch bolt on the shaft on clutch pedal .
You are supposed to put the line up shaft in before you tighten the pressure plate. This supposed to move in and out freely.
It would be a lot easier to change if you would put on a MOPAR shirt!
You need pilot bearings remover tolls
Well next time. Put alignment tool in 1st before you tighten down on the clutch assembly..that would have save you much headache..next get a real torque wrench..when you removed the spring bolts you didn't set the pto second stage clutch gap..you beat on the clutch so much that the 1st disk finally got into position to where the input finally went into the throughout bearing.
Hi Jerry I'm not a musician but watch all your videos. I've one silly question. Those blocks of wood you use during clamping why are they called a call?
Caul. Cauls are used when applying pressure to something to make sure the shape is not changed or to preserve or impart a particular shape to something under pressure.
@@forthwithtx5852: In working with wood, cauls are also a way
to protect your project wood, from damage by clamps.
I own a 50's Ford 8N and motor was rebuilt before I got it anf hope I never have to do this on mine, but at age 67 I am probably going to be ok as long as not thrashing it like an idiot
You need a different intro song and animation for “Rosa Around The Farm”. It was confusing hearing the Rosa String Works theme and then not seeing you checking the action with guitar picks. :P
I guess the title of the video was confusing to you.
@@forthwithtx5852 Patrick obviously needs to change the clutch on his guitar
I think he used a couple picks, during the case alignment, but I guess he must have cut that out. 🤣🤣
You can use wet news paper
Bread??? Bread??? I always used grease. Antone I ever saw doing it used grease.
. No no no do not undo those 3 bolts. Undoo clutch bolts and align 1st then tighten the clutch cover 1st . Torque them up then remove 3 cover bolts then alighn 3 fingers to the right height then yku can put back together. Mf mechanic uk.
Clutch plate not aligned. Whith spline. .
Just put it in gear
you should have googled it first !