Wow, Men have really had enough of the Corporate World taking a dump on them. I am here to help guide you through this trash corporate environment, one step at a time, let's talk here:calendly.com/econethan/career_advice
The problem is 9-5s (especially in America) are not really 9-5s. See so many ppl getting forced into travel, working on weekends, or hell-working on vacation. The BB generation worked diligently so that any and all labor protections for workers that could be reversed were done as such. Then these same old demented fools ask: * Why aren't people having kids? * Why does no one want to work anymore? * Why aren't young people buying houses?
The slaves of Egypt were taxed 20%, the average Roman worked 6 hours a day. We work longer hours than the ancients and pay double that of slaves. Its especially ludicrous considering our automation technology.
In the past, a 9-5 career would look like the career of a doctor: the older you are, the more money you are going to make. The peak was in your 50s and you could see yourself working until your 60s. Nowadays the 9-5 career looks like the career of a soccer player, after 35 the problems begin. After 40, forget about it, your days are numbered. The peak years are between 29-34. In other words: you must save like crazy or have a 2nd stream of income.
When I started working full time in 2008, this is what I did - save, save, save. I lived at home even if it meant not having a gf because my future is more important than women. I am really glad I did this.
If I was a young person just starting out again I'd make sure I could live after 40 on my savings. After 40 you are on borrowed time and after 50 forget about getting an office job (unless you have a very marketable skill) I was lucky to work in IT until I retired at 65 but that's not the norm for most people these days.
When I started in tech 25 years ago almost all the managers were ex-military guys. Today almost all the IT managers are women and Asians with a business rather than tech background.
@@queenofthenile2485 I guess his point is that buisnessmen and women tend to avoid accounatability for their decisions, which means that said accountability would fall onto worker's shoulders.
When you can’t make your rent payments, you will feel it and may start to regret making hasty decisions. As long as you have a concrete plan. Don’t abandon ship without a plan. Please, don’t do that.
A 9-5 should become a 8-12 or 12-4 split, where you only work a 4hr shift and either chose the morning or the afternoon shift...You, put in some work to contribute to society and then you have the rest of your day to pursue other things. If you go to school, wish to get a second job, want to focus on a sport more, you are into art, you want to learn to cook, can, ferment foods etc., you will have that extra time...If you have an illness, bad back, sleep issues etc. you are able to do a 4hr shift, but a 8hr+ shift is too much.
And it's my understanding that they've done studies that dictate their explain that humans are only capable of peak performance for about four straight hours
@FartyOSharty especially when you need at least 7 hours of sleep and manage other life responsibilities. I don't understand how these people think we can have family's with no time to give them. Cooking meals, raising children, and building relations take a lot of time. Working your life away in one spot is dystopian.
@@artbyddp It is because they have dehumanized us, we are nothing more than livestock to them and machines made to mass produce their products or consume their products. We are almost not much different then cattle and our children are essentially their children, just like the cow on the farms calf is the farmers. It is up to you to believe you are more than this and to also not forget about your neighbor and know that they are more than just a tool to be used or a cow to be milked.
@@artbyddp Yes, the thing with a 4 hr spilt shit where some people work the mornings and some work the afternoon shift, the morning earlier riser people could work those hours where as people who need more sleep or have sleep issues etc. would be best suited to work the afternoon hours. I think a 8hr work day split into 2 4 hr shits is a good and doable idea....what do you think? I think it could work and people still are contributing to society, and also have more time for whatever it is the need or want to do. So people only work 20 hrs a week instead of 80 hours....
I really enjoy my job, I work fully remote, it is mentally stimulating as I learn something new every single day. Also I get paid well. And Yes it’s in tech
I rent a trailer and work in spartanburg South Carolina. I think move to a better state. I been growing watermelon it's hard to live here. I always thinking how to pay the rent faster because I live here alone. I'm from New England. Great to hear your show.
The highly skilled (like me with data especially with Excel) almost never get promoted into management roles. Companies can easily replace managers but someone great at their jobs and have mad tech skills above and beyond - very hard to replace. So you often end up with managers who are less skilled and pretty useless. AI could do what they do so much better and that's where things are headed,
Any advice on how to become highly skilled with Data on Excel? I'm a Business Analyst and want to have a specialty to showcase to employers/contracting work. Data within Excel looks like a reasonable place with lots of opportunities
I have heard the statistic that 90% of population in the US was self employed in the 1920s. Not sure if that's correct, but I think that's the way to go.
@@understone86 over many generations the system with its many resources and tools and using its compartmentalised agencies both Govt and private has continuously attacked that sector to make it unprofitable or untenable to be a small independent farm. It's just a matter of what their priority of attack was, from what type of crop or what kind of produce or which countries were to be targeted in what order. Such as the 3rd world countries of course were very early and first, it's by no sheer accident or mere happenstance that aside from corporate farms it's mostly subsistence impoverished farmers there.. now they're concentrating on the remaining independent, family farms in 1st world countries.
Started well. But then veered off into , do it yourself. You can't government yourself . . . That's why we have nations. It's a we thing. Still. Valid points on internal challenges. The need is for all people to focus on how to stay motivated and focused. It is the first step that is hardest. So conserve that energy of fighting the world for making a next step in your life. It feels good. But the rewards are delayed. Tbh
Goverment, left.and right wing basically failed to serve the ppl, even "mass movements" are not achieving much. So the individual is left to find a personalised solution.
@@economicsethan even a personalised solution will only buy you just a little time maybe not even that for many people.. the way they're going, just as soon as they can gain more power to silence dissent enough which the most significant stumbling block for them is only in the U.S. The BRICS system is a Trojan horse bec every country, without exception, all are embedded and tied together through the BIS system. They're going for a world CBDC and tokenisation of everything, no personal property for you is the goal. And with everything else being machinated including with regard to health choices or non choice.. in a short enough time, especially if more people continue to not care and do nothing except just for themselves, there will be no 'personalised solution'.
@economicsethan even a personalised solution will only buy you just a little time maybe not even that for many people.. the way they're going, just as soon as they can gain more power to silence dissent enough which the most significant stumbling block for them is only in the U.S. The BRICS system is a Trojan horse bec every country, without exception, all are embedded and tied together through the BIS system. They're going for a world CBDC and tokenisation of everything, no personal property for you is the goal. And with everything else being machinated including with regard to health choices or non choice.. in a short enough time, especially if more people continue to not care and do nothing except just for themselves, there will be no 'personalised solution'.
@@economicsethan even a personalised solution will only buy you just a little time maybe not even that for many people.. the way they're going, just as soon as they can gain more power to silence dissent enough which the most significant stumbling block for them is only in the U.S. The BRICS system is a Trojan horse bec every country, without exception all are embedded and tied together through the BIS system, they're going for a world CBDC and tokenisation of everything, no personal property for you is the goal. And with everything else being machinated including with regard to health choices or non choice.. in a short enough time, especially if more people continue to not care and do nothing except just for themselves, there will be no 'personalised solution'.
@economicsethan even a personalised solution will only buy you just a little time maybe not even that for many people.. the way they're going, just as soon as they can gain more power to silence dissent enough which the most significant stumbling block for them is only in the U.S. The BRICS system is a Trojan horse bec every country, without exception all are embedded and tied together through the BIS system, they're going for a world CBDC and tokenisation of everything, no personal property for you is the goal. And with everything else being machinated including with regard to health choices or non choice.. in a short enough time, especially if more people continue to not care and do nothing except just for themselves, there will be no 'personalised solution'.
I found I make a lot more per hour self-employed. ($40-100hr) The problem is that the hours are varied. To make it work, you need to start young when you are young and don't have liabilities, a side gig, or semi-retired where you have a baseline income coming in.
Lol, you would be surprised, that corporate control really degrades a man's self-esteem after a while. The money stops mattering, you want dignity instead.
@@economicsethan versus the utter degradation of your body and mental health working in the elements for less pay than someone in an office. Corporate is high school, labor jobs are high school with abuse.
@@morethanmello there are many good earning independent self employed tradesmen who've developed their technical skills or have 2 or more/multiple sets of them in different trades/specialisations. Such that they can even start their own companies or be independent contractors. They definitely have decision as to whether they'll take on a specific job/contract/customer, so they can choose not to work in unsafe conditions, they can and do refuse customers who behave badly or even just disrespectfully and they don't have to expose themselves to extreme outdoor 'elements' which usually tend to be passing phenomenon anyway.
@@morethanmello why be fearful of a tough time if one needs to go through it? Should we shirk what is hard simply because it is hard? Even spiritually those who belong to God go through hard testing it's how God reveals to those who are His own who they truly are.. and those who never was of Him are shown to all who have eyes to see, through hard testing the fakes and pretenders even if they can't stop lying are exposed for who they are even to their own selves
Its unique to each individual, e.g. the video before this talks about developing 2 skillsets (online and IRL) to quit a 9-5. That's why I speak to clients 1-2-1 to help them.
@@economicsethan its usually common for younger people, Even of the past generations when they were also young once, to tend not to pay attention to political news nor even most 'news'. Usually just until they find out that whether they care to know or not.. politics and what's happening will get them badly and much faster when they're ignorant. Bec knowledge and action And yes even a little of voting rightly can slow the bad effects down or stop some of it for a time.. But some of the older generation do pay attention to what's happening Not because they think they can substantially change the system through 'voting' but bec they seek to overturn it. Bec there's really no way to change the system through the system.
With respect 9-5 is easy street, 160 hours a month, I work 240 hours a month and there are people worse off than I am. Get some perspective office grunts😂
Unless you are lucky to have a great job it sounds like you've trained your mind, kind of like an endurance runner does with his body, to deal with inane corporate crap.
Wow, Men have really had enough of the Corporate World taking a dump on them. I am here to help guide you through this trash corporate environment, one step at a time, let's talk here:calendly.com/econethan/career_advice
Used to make 50,000 in an office, now make 30,000 in restaurants. The difference? I don’t cry on my way to work anymore.
The problem is 9-5s (especially in America) are not really 9-5s. See so many ppl getting forced into travel, working on weekends, or hell-working on vacation. The BB generation worked diligently so that any and all labor protections for workers that could be reversed were done as such. Then these same old demented fools ask:
* Why aren't people having kids?
* Why does no one want to work anymore?
* Why aren't young people buying houses?
Make the politicians work 9-5... You will see them changing the laws ASAP.
The slaves of Egypt were taxed 20%, the average Roman worked 6 hours a day. We work longer hours than the ancients and pay double that of slaves. Its especially ludicrous considering our automation technology.
In the past, a 9-5 career would look like the career of a doctor: the older you are, the more money you are going to make. The peak was in your 50s and you could see yourself working until your 60s. Nowadays the 9-5 career looks like the career of a soccer player, after 35 the problems begin. After 40, forget about it, your days are numbered. The peak years are between 29-34. In other words: you must save like crazy or have a 2nd stream of income.
When I started working full time in 2008, this is what I did - save, save, save. I lived at home even if it meant not having a gf because my future is more important than women. I am really glad I did this.
Definitely not like that in insurance, thankfully.
This is so true. At 42 I already feel like I will have increasing age related bias in the workplace
If I was a young person just starting out again I'd make sure I could live after 40 on my savings. After 40 you are on borrowed time and after 50 forget about getting an office job (unless you have a very marketable skill) I was lucky to work in IT until I retired at 65 but that's not the norm for most people these days.
Borrowed time after 40? Haha no.
When I started in tech 25 years ago almost all the managers were ex-military guys. Today almost all the IT managers are women and Asians with a business rather than tech background.
What’s your point?
@@queenofthenile2485 I guess his point is that buisnessmen and women tend to avoid accounatability for their decisions, which means that said accountability would fall onto worker's shoulders.
When you can’t make your rent payments, you will feel it and may start to regret making hasty decisions. As long as you have a concrete plan. Don’t abandon ship without a plan. Please, don’t do that.
i enjoyed my corporate job in my 20s but once i turned 30 the whole concept became on the nose and unbearable.
A 9-5 should become a 8-12 or 12-4 split, where you only work a 4hr shift and either chose the morning or the afternoon shift...You, put in some work to contribute to society and then you have the rest of your day to pursue other things. If you go to school, wish to get a second job, want to focus on a sport more, you are into art, you want to learn to cook, can, ferment foods etc., you will have that extra time...If you have an illness, bad back, sleep issues etc. you are able to do a 4hr shift, but a 8hr+ shift is too much.
And it's my understanding that they've done studies that dictate their explain that humans are only capable of peak performance for about four straight hours
@FartyOSharty especially when you need at least 7 hours of sleep and manage other life responsibilities. I don't understand how these people think we can have family's with no time to give them. Cooking meals, raising children, and building relations take a lot of time. Working your life away in one spot is dystopian.
@@artbyddp It is because they have dehumanized us, we are nothing more than livestock to them and machines made to mass produce their products or consume their products. We are almost not much different then cattle and our children are essentially their children, just like the cow on the farms calf is the farmers. It is up to you to believe you are more than this and to also not forget about your neighbor and know that they are more than just a tool to be used or a cow to be milked.
@@artbyddp Yes, the thing with a 4 hr spilt shit where some people work the mornings and some work the afternoon shift, the morning earlier riser people could work those hours where as people who need more sleep or have sleep issues etc. would be best suited to work the afternoon hours.
I think a 8hr work day split into 2 4 hr shits is a good and doable idea....what do you think? I think it could work and people still are contributing to society, and also have more time for whatever it is the need or want to do. So people only work 20 hrs a week instead of 80 hours....
I don't like jobs because I don't like people, but I am willing to work to make more money, save every pennies and escape the workforce earlier.
We are kindred spirits. I really don’t like people.
9-5 means 1/3 slavery. Besides remote job is being demonized by corporations.
Thanks man, as a tech bro myself, i agree with most of your points. Thanks for being honest and not gaslighting us.
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9-5 has been foolish, it’s all a trap. A way to keep us all poor and make sure we come back next week
I really enjoy my job, I work fully remote, it is mentally stimulating as I learn something new every single day. Also I get paid well. And Yes it’s in tech
I rent a trailer and work in spartanburg South Carolina. I think move to a better state. I been growing watermelon it's hard to live here. I always thinking how to pay the rent faster because I live here alone. I'm from New England. Great to hear your show.
OTR trucker here, 6 days a week, 14 hr days.
When you die they put you in a box as well
The guy in video..
Yes he is right but bottom line where can u live for 30k a year in a homeless camp? 8 and out the gate and keep emotion out of it.
The highly skilled (like me with data especially with Excel) almost never get promoted into management roles. Companies can easily replace managers but someone great at their jobs and have mad tech skills above and beyond - very hard to replace. So you often end up with managers who are less skilled and pretty useless. AI could do what they do so much better and that's where things are headed,
Any advice on how to become highly skilled with Data on Excel? I'm a Business Analyst and want to have a specialty to showcase to employers/contracting work. Data within Excel looks like a reasonable place with lots of opportunities
@@redman6790 happy to chat sometime. I can show you what I’m working on.
@@jeffstevens9729 management is full of dei and under qualified blue haired vvomen.
Just listening to them speak is hilarious
Not everyone has such a beautiful hair to start a side hustle on OF
I have heard the statistic that 90% of population in the US was self employed in the 1920s. Not sure if that's correct, but I think that's the way to go.
In agriculture
@@understone86 over many generations the system with its many resources and tools and using its compartmentalised agencies both Govt and private has continuously attacked that sector to make it unprofitable or untenable to be a small independent farm. It's just a matter of what their priority of attack was, from what type of crop or what kind of produce or which countries were to be targeted in what order. Such as the 3rd world countries of course were very early and first, it's by no sheer accident or mere happenstance that aside from corporate farms it's mostly subsistence impoverished farmers there.. now they're concentrating on the remaining independent, family farms in 1st world countries.
Started well. But then veered off into , do it yourself. You can't government yourself . . . That's why we have nations. It's a we thing. Still. Valid points on internal challenges. The need is for all people to focus on how to stay motivated and focused. It is the first step that is hardest. So conserve that energy of fighting the world for making a next step in your life. It feels good. But the rewards are delayed. Tbh
Goverment, left.and right wing basically failed to serve the ppl, even "mass movements" are not achieving much. So the individual is left to find a personalised solution.
@@economicsethan even a personalised solution will only buy you just a little time maybe not even that for many people.. the way they're going, just as soon as they can gain more power to silence dissent enough which the most significant stumbling block for them is only in the U.S. The BRICS system is a Trojan horse bec every country, without exception, all are embedded and tied together through the BIS system. They're going for a world CBDC and tokenisation of everything, no personal property for you is the goal. And with everything else being machinated including with regard to health choices or non choice.. in a short enough time, especially if more people continue to not care and do nothing except just for themselves, there will be no 'personalised solution'.
@economicsethan even a personalised solution will only buy you just a little time maybe not even that for many people.. the way they're going, just as soon as they can gain more power to silence dissent enough which the most significant stumbling block for them is only in the U.S. The BRICS system is a Trojan horse bec every country, without exception, all are embedded and tied together through the BIS system. They're going for a world CBDC and tokenisation of everything, no personal property for you is the goal. And with everything else being machinated including with regard to health choices or non choice.. in a short enough time, especially if more people continue to not care and do nothing except just for themselves, there will be no 'personalised solution'.
@@economicsethan even a personalised solution will only buy you just a little time maybe not even that for many people.. the way they're going, just as soon as they can gain more power to silence dissent enough which the most significant stumbling block for them is only in the U.S. The BRICS system is a Trojan horse bec every country, without exception all are embedded and tied together through the BIS system, they're going for a world CBDC and tokenisation of everything, no personal property for you is the goal. And with everything else being machinated including with regard to health choices or non choice.. in a short enough time, especially if more people continue to not care and do nothing except just for themselves, there will be no 'personalised solution'.
@economicsethan even a personalised solution will only buy you just a little time maybe not even that for many people.. the way they're going, just as soon as they can gain more power to silence dissent enough which the most significant stumbling block for them is only in the U.S. The BRICS system is a Trojan horse bec every country, without exception all are embedded and tied together through the BIS system, they're going for a world CBDC and tokenisation of everything, no personal property for you is the goal. And with everything else being machinated including with regard to health choices or non choice.. in a short enough time, especially if more people continue to not care and do nothing except just for themselves, there will be no 'personalised solution'.
I found I make a lot more per hour self-employed. ($40-100hr) The problem is that the hours are varied.
To make it work, you need to start young when you are young and don't have liabilities, a side gig, or semi-retired where you have a baseline income coming in.
1:48 no you wouldn't, that's utter bullshit
Lol, you would be surprised, that corporate control really degrades a man's self-esteem after a while. The money stops mattering, you want dignity instead.
@@economicsethan versus the utter degradation of your body and mental health working in the elements for less pay than someone in an office. Corporate is high school, labor jobs are high school with abuse.
@@morethanmello there are many good earning independent self employed tradesmen who've developed their technical skills or have 2 or more/multiple sets of them in different trades/specialisations. Such that they can even start their own companies or be independent contractors. They definitely have decision as to whether they'll take on a specific job/contract/customer, so they can choose not to work in unsafe conditions, they can and do refuse customers who behave badly or even just disrespectfully and they don't have to expose themselves to extreme outdoor 'elements' which usually tend to be passing phenomenon anyway.
@@benjaminguilatcoiv you're correct after 5-10 years of combined experience. In which you during that time you will have to work in shit condition.
@@morethanmello why be fearful of a tough time if one needs to go through it? Should we shirk what is hard simply because it is hard? Even spiritually those who belong to God go through hard testing it's how God reveals to those who are His own who they truly are.. and those who never was of Him are shown to all who have eyes to see, through hard testing the fakes and pretenders even if they can't stop lying are exposed for who they are even to their own selves
Come on guys, why are we acting like a bunch of proles? Shouldn't we just skip and go straight to revolution?
@@WestQuinte when the system itself is corrupt, simply walking away is the biggest revolt a man can make individually.
half of your 9-5 is paying taxes for people not doing 9-5 ... work for yourself 100%
I see that you are critizing 9 to 5 regularly but I don't hear you offering any alternatives. What should I do if I quit my hob?
Its unique to each individual, e.g. the video before this talks about developing 2 skillsets (online and IRL) to quit a 9-5.
That's why I speak to clients 1-2-1 to help them.
@@economicsethan its usually common for younger people, Even of the past generations when they were also young once, to tend not to pay attention to political news nor even most 'news'. Usually just until they find out that whether they care to know or not.. politics and what's happening will get them badly and much faster when they're ignorant. Bec knowledge and action And yes even a little of voting rightly can slow the bad effects down or stop some of it for a time..
But some of the older generation do pay attention to what's happening Not because they think they can substantially change the system through 'voting' but bec they seek to overturn it. Bec there's really no way to change the system through the system.
With respect 9-5 is easy street, 160 hours a month, I work 240 hours a month and there are people worse off than I am. Get some perspective office grunts😂
Unless you are lucky to have a great job it sounds like you've trained your mind, kind of like an endurance runner does with his body, to deal with inane corporate crap.
@@topboychris104 yup that's life.
if your eyes weren’t always so wide open 😢
I'm more of 9:30 to 4:30 kinda guy