I love how in the complex world of hxh, a poisoned knife made by a serial killer years ago imbuened with nen is one of chrollos main win cons. Just seems like such a togashi move
Well,most people isn't Silva Zoldyck, so they would be dead after one punch. That's a good weapon for a low level universe like Hunter. I don't say it's bad, but it is low level even compared to Big 3.
@@ДавидГригорьев-ф3жthats the price of having actually good stories and well written characters, gotta make everything grounded and sensible unlike other “strong” verses
Chrollo doesn't know anything about Kurapika's ability unlike his fight with Hisoka, BUT Kurapika has information on the Spiders' abilities. Thanks to Hisoka. lol. Kurapika's nen exists for the sole purpose of defeating Chrollo. Uvo mentioned the crazy amount of nen imbued in Kurapika's chains. I like Chrollo, but I think my favorite red-eyed transgender will win.
for the Holy Chain to heal Kurapika needs to activate it but the poison knife would lead to total body paralysis. While it might be "possible" Kurapika wouldn't get a chance to test that theory
2:54 Togashi is it very smart writer/author when he showed one of the Phantom members arm wrestle they didn’t use nen, (gon vs vacuum girl) So I think it’s safe to assume that when the Phantom Troop arm wrestle against each other they don’t use net however we also know that Chrollo has a lot higher than all of the rest of the phantom troop members besides Hisoka, with that said, I think his ranking in the arm wrestle competition is perfectly fine considering we know how strong his actual nen amount is
Thoughts on Hanzo? A hanzo with no nen was able to finish the tower trial the literal second after illumi who already has nen. The tower trial sets the stage for scaling illumi right behind hisoka, this is a fact that has come up numerous times later, so it's fair to say that it isn't the WORST method of scaling. Killua also seems to think that Hanzo is right behind Hisoka but Killua's perspective is a bit dubious. Lastly we can assume from the manga that Hanzo has a large repertoire of moves, seeing as the nen ability he displays is his fourth skill art.
It's hard to say he's as impressive as Illumi when we don't know what their trials were at the tower. For example Gon and the gang had a lot of paths to choose and had to argue amongst themselves, while we only see Hisoka fighting the last year's examiner, which was his last trial. You can argue Illumi just took his time, that he had a trial that made him waste more time or whatever, we just don't know. I still think Hanzo was arguably the best rookie there, arguably around the same tier as Killua, but the Nen users were just way too strong in comparison imo
@@wingzero7678 I think since Illumi finished right behind Hisoka, and we know that Illumi is a 95 on Hisoka's scale, that narratively speaking we can equalize their trials. But I get it, we just don't have a lot to go off of, but my hunch is that he's at least zodiac level considering some of the zodiacs were much weaker than Hisoka
Say "Professor Fiction", do you think you could do "what if JJK's Shinjuku squad (minus Gojo) replaced the hunter squad from HxH's Palace Invasion Arc", I think it would be interesting.
I'm not sure chrollo is smarter. Yeah, he's smart, but the narrative seems to treat kurapika as the underdog that problem solved his way into a viable war.
Chrollo debatably has the highest battle iq in the entire HxH world. He had almost endless variety in his nen ability and uses it flawlessly in his engagements. 1v2 vs the zoldyks is seriously underrated even if they weren’t going all out. Still Zeno says likely one of them would die even in a TWO on one. I’m not sure why people don’t understand Chrollo has immense iq. Kurapika gets absolutely slapped in this 1v1. If he beat pre death Hisoka then kurapika doesn’t stand a chance. I think Hisoka pre death is already stronger than kurapika, but post mortem Hisoka absolutely wiped kurapika. If the rematch vs Hisoka and chrollo is already thought to be close, if not as close as their first fight, kurapika is a dead man. Simply put Chrollo has the highest battle iq, alongside Hisoka and likely Zeno, netero, and kite. Maybe morel as well. But Chrollo also had the most versatility in the entire verse. Thought kite had good versatility, maybe Hisoka, nah. Chrollo wipes easy.
@ lol so much yap to say so little. A whole lot of “I value this character at this level and this character loses to them yada yada” like nobody asked for who you think wins an IQ tournament in your fanfic. In the story Kurapika is very consistently the smartest in the room. I don’t doubt chrollo’s battle iq is massive but most of what you said does nothing to actually prove that claim. You’re listing conclusions as arguments.
Chrollo is a master tactician and intellect his battle IQ is way to high to be stupid like uvogin and not use gyo to see kurapika chain jail mid fight Also just to say when kurapika sneaked him in the dark to capture chrollo , pakunoda said that chrollo would have no difficulty to dodge kurapika chain speed. He is way more experienced and has a book full of abilities that he can use to kill kurapika . Just remember that one hit from his poison knife would be enough to neutralize kurapika 😂 Also it's not fair to take a chrollo who stole abilities for killing hisoka we all know that if he was to fight kurapika he would have used another list of abilities specially for him because maybe some people forgot it but chrollo knows almost all kurapika chains and that he has 5 chains but kurapika knows nothing about chrollo abilities which is a great disadvantage in a nen fight.
You give the edge of intelligence to Chrollo yet kurapika played 4d chess with the entire phantom troupe. Killed the physically strongest member low diff. Even navigated the unforeseen issue of his friends being held hostage and getting in the way and still caused members to die and take chrolllos nen away. There wouldn’t even be the potential of this fight if hisoka wasn’t so horny to fight him. He loses 100/100. His abilities are designed to beat him and oh the small matter of he already did. L
You have to remember, the troupe had no time to prepare while kurapika had insane prep time. Even to build his abilities completely to counter the troupe. It was basically a sneak attack bs the troupe, and ALSO keep in mind chrollo allows kurapika to take him as a hostage instead of potentially losing another member or two. He even says he is of no value as a hostage which is why he went. He is so confident that he sits in the car with angered Scarlett eyes kurapika and has his nen sealed by the chains and STILL doesn’t even feel phased. CONFIRMED by melody. If it’s true 1 on 1 then kurapika gets wiped. No prep time either side, it’s obvious chrollo has higher battle iq and versatility. Strength too but even specialist kurapika just gets wiped. Sure he has the “advantage” with his abilities to counter the troupe, but chrollo is just too broken. Bro wiped Hisoka with borderline no damage taken. If anyone thinks kurapika wins this, they’re borderline insane. Or coping. Or extremely bias.
@ he only used prep to make sure it’s a 100% win. He could’ve easily came up with a similar strategy when in the moment as well. Just look at his other fights he had no prep time with. Like Zeno and Silva 1v2. If you think it would be closer with no prep time, sure I agree. But if you think that would turn the tables you’re mistaken. Chrollo might prep a bit but he isn’t like Batman where he needs it to be relevant.
Isn’t judgement chain a manipulation hatsu? First come, first serve. Kurapika is always under the effects of judgement chain, so he should be immune to black voice right? Also, heal chain may be able to heal the poison of the Ben’s knife. Since it can heal all damage and repair bones that are literally shattered.
@ That’s like saying Shalnark uses manipulation on his antenna, and not anything the antenna pierces. He is under the influence of the chain, thus being manipulated.
@@bromous1446 he isnt under the influence of the chain though as technically the chain dosent actually make you do anything you CAN choose to refuse you just suffer consequences the manipulation if you do shalnark is directly manipulating their actions. the antenae is just the conduit you see the difference?
@ U have no proof that is how the rule works. All Shalnark said was that its first come, first served for manipulation. That’s it. There’s never been a person affected by manipulation that was able to be manipulated by someone else. The evidence favors Kurapika being immune to manipulation.
If Kurapika walked into that room in York New, Chrollo would've killed him. But then died to Zeno and Silva because he would've exhausted from the previous bout
Chrollo knew nothing about Kurapika at that point, only that he uses a chain to fight...Kurapika would have folded him just like he did Uvogin as Emperor Time + Chain Jail + In (to deceive it) is just too strong of a combo against an unaware Spider; it would be a totally different story if they fought after the YorkNew arc and Chrollo knew already about Kurapika's abilities...don't forget that Kurapika mopped the floor with 50% Uvogin and could sustain hits from him at full power, his physical capabilities are absurd when he has his eyes scarlet
@@alessandroshadykurapika also didn’t know something about chrollos overpowered ability, so both would have disadvantages but chrollo is a way more experienced fighter
CHrollo don't have the slightest chance at all Kurapika overpowered uvo in hand to hand combat alone hahahaha just imagine what he could do to chrollo, he simply didn't kill chrollo in york shin because of "reding the future bulllshit" + not kill chrollo because gon and killua were hostages or else he would be dead in a grave at this point the uvo argument is not valid since uvo couldn't even react to kurapika
something to add is that chrollo atp should know all of kurapikas abilties(at least what he told gon) since phinks says that they know and i see 0 reason he wouldnt have told him so hed def use gyo to see the invisble chain jail
Even tho I sometimes disagree with some of your takes, I generally enjoy your HXH content because you are the most logical HXH PowerScaler I know... But I have ONE huge issue with your videos: whenever you talk about DataBooks and use them as arguments (source of ''statements'') you lose me completely. Why? Shueisha is known for creating and publishing DataBooks without the author's consent (and putting their name on the cover... that happened to Akira Toriyama (he said it in an interview)). While there is no concrete proof that it is the case with HXH/Togashi (because he never said anything about the DataBooks, anywhere)... there are a few things suggesting that this probably is the case. Zeno Zoldyck and Silva Zoldicks are transmuters... That is information from DataBooks and it is wrong (in 2-year-old Togashi's NEN Exhibition Memo it is stated that they are Emitters) and similar ''RETCONS'' happened to all of the DataBooks (Hunter × Hunter Hunter Association Official Issue: Hunter's Guide; Character & World Official Databook, ... Hunter x Hunter Characters Book: World × Character × Blessing, ... Yu ★ Yu ★ Hakusho Official Characters Book Reikaishinshiroku (Hunter × Hunter Manual section,... Hunter × Hunter - Omnibus Version (additional information)). Those are all the characters whose types were proven to be stated wrong across all the DataBooks: Knuckle = Emitter (NOPE, he's a Conjurer) Know = Conjurer (NOPE, he's an Emitter) Meruem = Specialist (NOPE, he's an Emitter) Ikalgo = Manipulator (NOPE, he's an Enhancer) Youpi = Enhancer (NOPE, he's a Transmuter) Zeno, Silva = Transmuters (NOPE, they're Emitters) Btw the Togashi NEN Exhibition Memo is two pages of NEN info (Leaning Nen Types, 4 levels of NEN proficiency, and NEN type revelations) that draws from real Togashi's notes. (you can do your own research) One may say that Togashi just retconned himself... but I don't think so, because Retcon on this scale seems really improbable for an author like him. So even if the rest of the info from the DataBooks was legitimate 100% correct Togashi lore... we have no way of knowing or proving it. So until we can, it is safer to assume that everything in the DataBooks is BS. Thanks for reading.
Generally speaking I view the databooks as supplementary evidence only. I don’t consider it hard data and only use it to back up existing knowledge. I’m also well aware of the Togashi Expo but unfortunately it didn’t matter very much for this specific matchup
@@Professor_Fiction Well I'm not saying that this, or any other video, is invalid because of that. But supporting arguments with an unreliable source has almost the opposite effect... it kinda degrades the validity of the arguments. Because if the argument is good on its own, you don't have/need to back it up with anything... So backing it up with DataBooks makes it seem like it is so weak of an argument that you have to back it up with lies. Btw this video was good and as you said the DataBook stuff didn't really change anything about it. I just think that using DataBook info is a disservice to your arguments and videos.
Slight gap in intelligence is insane. Chrollo has debatably the highest battle iq in the verse. Not to mention kurapika’s chain jail is not an instant win, it’s only decent against uvogin because he assumed the chains were real, not nen. And it took kurapika a while to wrap the chains around him. Plus uvo was also blocked by his ego just a bit and has mid battle iq.
@@theoriginalnoc what is wrong with my takes? Instead of saying I’m wrong, correct me. Chrollo has the most versatile ability in the entire show. He uses it basically flawlessly, AND in combat. If you disagree with him having the highest battle iq then you’re tripping. Kurapika isn’t even in the top 10 for battle sense. He is so inexperienced he heavily relies on his nen vows. And emperor time. His hardest fight so far was uvo, and that’s not a particularly hard fight for him either. Actually a fairly easy one given uvo is just a muscle head. He doesn’t have any abilities, his whole thing is he just punches really hard. Sure he might outclass everyone in the troupe in strength, but that means if he relies on punches he has to be close range. That’s a terrible ability when you realize he doesn’t have any other win con. You could argue he could scream really loud but that a weak argument. Just weak ear protection or even cover your ears with defensive nen a little. Kurapika has range so I don’t see how that matchup goes any other way. But going back to chrollo, he 1v2’s Silva and Zeno. If you put kurapika in that situation he’s dead. Even hypothetically if his powers would work against them. He just loses 10/10 times. And yeah people say “of but they weren’t going all out”. I get that, but it is still heavily implied and confirmed by Zeno saying one of them would have to die in order to take him out. If he didn’t die then he would win. Basically their win con would be a combo attack. That’s the reason they didn’t go all out. Neither side had a good reason to fight in their encounter. Maybe people are just bias towards kurapika, but I’m stating things that actually happen in the anime and comparing other characters to the scenarios. Plus kurapika is insanely overrated in the power sense. Like yeah put him one on one with most of the troupe, he wins. But that’s against people like shalnark and benolenov. They’re just not the strongest fighters. They’re cool and sure have some abilities, but not that’s strong. Only gets tough when he would fight chrollo, or Hisoka who she loses to as well 10/10 times. Hisoka probably doesn’t count as a spider, cause he faked it the whole time, but if he does then post mortem Hisoka still wipes kurapika.
I probably ain’t gonna watch but uh im just gonna say that chrollo would definitely win assuming he has info on kurapikas chains which he should. Anyway imma just leave a like and comment.
lmao no, Kurapika takes it majority of the time. None of of the PT members have an above 50% chance of beating Kurapika, Chain Jail is just too strong of a win con, and people really don't put enough respect on just the raw physical fighting ability Kurapika has in emperor time, his performance vs Uvogin before even hitting Chain Jail is extremely impressive especially considering he was still so new to nen.
This fight comes down to how much Chrollo knows about Kurapika's abilities by the time they fight. There is no limit to the strategies he could use aslong as he knows what he is going up against. That's what makes Chrollo dangerous. People forget that he could technically use ANY hatsu in the story.
He cannot use any hatsu in the story lol. Some characters have abilities that make it impossible to fit the conditions to be stolen, some characters are already dead, etc.
@rylace Who has an ability he couldn't steal? An armless person who can't talk? 😂 And yes obviously he can't take the abilities of dead people that doesn't change the fact he could have done if they were alive. My point is there isn't anything he can't do.
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I love how in the complex world of hxh, a poisoned knife made by a serial killer years ago imbuened with nen is one of chrollos main win cons. Just seems like such a togashi move
Well,most people isn't Silva Zoldyck, so they would be dead after one punch.
That's a good weapon for a low level universe like Hunter. I don't say it's bad, but it is low level even compared to Big 3.
@@ДавидГригорьев-ф3жyeah it really only fits for this verse but I think thats what makes it great
Kurapika can heal and that isn't even a men ability
@@EmmanuelGbiayesome mid level healing does not equal immunity to poison
@@ДавидГригорьев-ф3жthats the price of having actually good stories and well written characters, gotta make everything grounded and sensible unlike other “strong” verses
Chrollo doesn't know anything about Kurapika's ability unlike his fight with Hisoka, BUT Kurapika has information on the Spiders' abilities. Thanks to Hisoka. lol. Kurapika's nen exists for the sole purpose of defeating Chrollo. Uvo mentioned the crazy amount of nen imbued in Kurapika's chains. I like Chrollo, but I think my favorite red-eyed transgender will win.
Chrollo: 🙂
Kurapika: *takes a trip to Home Depot real quick*
@@stresslee shovel time baby
@@pj2345-v4x real 😂
I know you mentioned the poison knife as potential win-con for Chrollo, but do you think Kurapika can heal poison if he does get hit with it?
Wdym heal poison?
@@cipherscanner I meant Ben knives Chrollo used against Silva's, could kurapika heal or slow down the poison if he got hit with it.
@@jijjij6038 That's not how poison works I'm pretty sure.
for the Holy Chain to heal Kurapika needs to activate it but the poison knife would lead to total body paralysis. While it might be "possible" Kurapika wouldn't get a chance to test that theory
@Professor_Fiction I don't think he needs to "move" to activate holy chain, he can control the chain telekinetically
2:54
Togashi is it very smart writer/author when he showed one of the Phantom members arm wrestle they didn’t use nen, (gon vs vacuum girl)
So I think it’s safe to assume that when the Phantom Troop arm wrestle against each other they don’t use net however we also know that Chrollo has a lot higher than all of the rest of the phantom troop members besides Hisoka, with that said, I think his ranking in the arm wrestle competition is perfectly fine considering we know how strong his actual nen amount is
Thoughts on Hanzo? A hanzo with no nen was able to finish the tower trial the literal second after illumi who already has nen. The tower trial sets the stage for scaling illumi right behind hisoka, this is a fact that has come up numerous times later, so it's fair to say that it isn't the WORST method of scaling. Killua also seems to think that Hanzo is right behind Hisoka but Killua's perspective is a bit dubious. Lastly we can assume from the manga that Hanzo has a large repertoire of moves, seeing as the nen ability he displays is his fourth skill art.
It's hard to say he's as impressive as Illumi when we don't know what their trials were at the tower. For example Gon and the gang had a lot of paths to choose and had to argue amongst themselves, while we only see Hisoka fighting the last year's examiner, which was his last trial. You can argue Illumi just took his time, that he had a trial that made him waste more time or whatever, we just don't know.
I still think Hanzo was arguably the best rookie there, arguably around the same tier as Killua, but the Nen users were just way too strong in comparison imo
@@wingzero7678 I think since Illumi finished right behind Hisoka, and we know that Illumi is a 95 on Hisoka's scale, that narratively speaking we can equalize their trials. But I get it, we just don't have a lot to go off of, but my hunch is that he's at least zodiac level considering some of the zodiacs were much weaker than Hisoka
@@ayylmao2190it might be an interesting discussion for a comment. But it would make a terrible video. There's really not a whole lot to go off of.
I don't think the tower trial is what determines your strength. We don't know what Illumi was even doing.
@@pingutune he took a break to j off in the middle of it
Say "Professor Fiction", do you think you could do "what if JJK's Shinjuku squad (minus Gojo) replaced the hunter squad from HxH's Palace Invasion Arc", I think it would be interesting.
Yes
Ants die very quickly lmfao
@@TheBHNetwork
I mean if you aren't heavily low-balling JJK's power scaling then yes it'll be one sided within the JJK characters favor
@@jordandavilabrown294 yeah thats what im saying lol
I think gojo should be there to replace netero
I wonder how would you prep Chrollo for Kurapika? Let's just say that Chrollo knows he will be fighting him.
You should make a video on Killua and gon vs the phantom troup gauntlet
I'm not sure chrollo is smarter. Yeah, he's smart, but the narrative seems to treat kurapika as the underdog that problem solved his way into a viable war.
mmm you spitting.
Chrollo debatably has the highest battle iq in the entire HxH world. He had almost endless variety in his nen ability and uses it flawlessly in his engagements. 1v2 vs the zoldyks is seriously underrated even if they weren’t going all out. Still Zeno says likely one of them would die even in a TWO on one. I’m not sure why people don’t understand Chrollo has immense iq. Kurapika gets absolutely slapped in this 1v1. If he beat pre death Hisoka then kurapika doesn’t stand a chance. I think Hisoka pre death is already stronger than kurapika, but post mortem Hisoka absolutely wiped kurapika. If the rematch vs Hisoka and chrollo is already thought to be close, if not as close as their first fight, kurapika is a dead man. Simply put Chrollo has the highest battle iq, alongside Hisoka and likely Zeno, netero, and kite. Maybe morel as well. But Chrollo also had the most versatility in the entire verse. Thought kite had good versatility, maybe Hisoka, nah. Chrollo wipes easy.
@ lol so much yap to say so little. A whole lot of “I value this character at this level and this character loses to them yada yada” like nobody asked for who you think wins an IQ tournament in your fanfic.
In the story Kurapika is very consistently the smartest in the room. I don’t doubt chrollo’s battle iq is massive but most of what you said does nothing to actually prove that claim. You’re listing conclusions as arguments.
Kurapika literally went from the underdog to the guy that other people depend on
Chrollo is a master tactician and intellect his battle IQ is way to high to be stupid like uvogin and not use gyo to see kurapika chain jail mid fight
Also just to say when kurapika sneaked him in the dark to capture chrollo , pakunoda said that chrollo would have no difficulty to dodge kurapika chain speed.
He is way more experienced and has a book full of abilities that he can use to kill kurapika .
Just remember that one hit from his poison knife would be enough to neutralize kurapika 😂
Also it's not fair to take a chrollo who stole abilities for killing hisoka we all know that if he was to fight kurapika he would have used another list of abilities specially for him because maybe some people forgot it but chrollo knows almost all kurapika chains and that he has 5 chains but kurapika knows nothing about chrollo abilities which is a great disadvantage in a nen fight.
You give the edge of intelligence to Chrollo yet kurapika played 4d chess with the entire phantom troupe. Killed the physically strongest member low diff. Even navigated the unforeseen issue of his friends being held hostage and getting in the way and still caused members to die and take chrolllos nen away. There wouldn’t even be the potential of this fight if hisoka wasn’t so horny to fight him. He loses 100/100. His abilities are designed to beat him and oh the small matter of he already did. L
You have to remember, the troupe had no time to prepare while kurapika had insane prep time. Even to build his abilities completely to counter the troupe. It was basically a sneak attack bs the troupe, and ALSO keep in mind chrollo allows kurapika to take him as a hostage instead of potentially losing another member or two. He even says he is of no value as a hostage which is why he went. He is so confident that he sits in the car with angered Scarlett eyes kurapika and has his nen sealed by the chains and STILL doesn’t even feel phased. CONFIRMED by melody. If it’s true 1 on 1 then kurapika gets wiped. No prep time either side, it’s obvious chrollo has higher battle iq and versatility. Strength too but even specialist kurapika just gets wiped. Sure he has the “advantage” with his abilities to counter the troupe, but chrollo is just too broken. Bro wiped Hisoka with borderline no damage taken. If anyone thinks kurapika wins this, they’re borderline insane. Or coping. Or extremely bias.
@@CarmineCrosschrollo wipes hisoka because of insane prep time what are you on bro 😅
@ he only used prep to make sure it’s a 100% win. He could’ve easily came up with a similar strategy when in the moment as well. Just look at his other fights he had no prep time with. Like Zeno and Silva 1v2. If you think it would be closer with no prep time, sure I agree. But if you think that would turn the tables you’re mistaken. Chrollo might prep a bit but he isn’t like Batman where he needs it to be relevant.
It’s actually crazy that the chairman would still slap every single human character in hxh no problem except adult gon
Isn’t judgement chain a manipulation hatsu? First come, first serve. Kurapika is always under the effects of judgement chain, so he should be immune to black voice right?
Also, heal chain may be able to heal the poison of the Ben’s knife. Since it can heal all damage and repair bones that are literally shattered.
I think Judgement chain is emission and conjuration, it doesn't really affect the opponents
i dont think so because he isnt using manipulation on himself hes using it on the chain
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That’s like saying Shalnark uses manipulation on his antenna, and not anything the antenna pierces. He is under the influence of the chain, thus being manipulated.
@@bromous1446 he isnt under the influence of the chain though as technically the chain dosent actually make you do anything you CAN choose to refuse you just suffer consequences the manipulation if you do shalnark is directly manipulating their actions. the antenae is just the conduit you see the difference?
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U have no proof that is how the rule works. All Shalnark said was that its first come, first served for manipulation. That’s it. There’s never been a person affected by manipulation that was able to be manipulated by someone else. The evidence favors Kurapika being immune to manipulation.
Chrollo would end up stalling kurapika in emperor time long enough to kill him, give him the hisoka treatment and run away
he can't use kortopi or shalnark powers anymore
@@bigjerome-wz4uo yea i know.
If Kurapika walked into that room in York New, Chrollo would've killed him.
But then died to Zeno and Silva because he would've exhausted from the previous bout
Chrollo knew nothing about Kurapika at that point, only that he uses a chain to fight...Kurapika would have folded him just like he did Uvogin as Emperor Time + Chain Jail + In (to deceive it) is just too strong of a combo against an unaware Spider; it would be a totally different story if they fought after the YorkNew arc and Chrollo knew already about Kurapika's abilities...don't forget that Kurapika mopped the floor with 50% Uvogin and could sustain hits from him at full power, his physical capabilities are absurd when he has his eyes scarlet
If Kurapika fought Chrollo in place of the Zoldycks, Chrollo would be dead.
💀Chrollo would have gotten bodied.
@@alessandroshadykurapika also didn’t know something about chrollos overpowered ability, so both would have disadvantages but chrollo is a way more experienced fighter
Hell no
Kurapika would’ve brought another shovel
If kurapika catches chrollo lacking then he win fairly easily. If chrollo given even a moment of prep he’d have a 99% win rate.
CHrollo don't have the slightest chance at all
Kurapika overpowered uvo in hand to hand combat alone hahahaha just imagine what he could do to chrollo, he simply didn't kill chrollo in york shin because of "reding the future bulllshit" + not kill chrollo because gon and killua were hostages or else he would be dead in a grave at this point
the uvo argument is not valid since uvo couldn't even react to kurapika
something to add is that chrollo atp should know all of kurapikas abilties(at least what he told gon) since phinks says that they know and i see 0 reason he wouldnt have told him so hed def use gyo to see the invisble chain jail
Well kurapika lied too gon kilua and leporio when he was telling them how his chains worked
@@craxelist3495 about which part? pretty sure he told them the truth
With prep time: Chrollo wins.
Without prep time: Kurapika wins.
Kurapika ranking in hxh please 😊
kurapika is much more of a good planner
he took a shovel with him just tu bury uvogin
I agree, Though I think Chrollo is stronger in general that doesn’t change the fact that Kurapika would have the edge if they fought.
Kurapika ran through like half the phantom troupe in their first meeting.
Even tho I sometimes disagree with some of your takes, I generally enjoy your HXH content because you are the most logical HXH PowerScaler I know... But I have ONE huge issue with your videos: whenever you talk about DataBooks and use them as arguments (source of ''statements'') you lose me completely. Why? Shueisha is known for creating and publishing DataBooks without the author's consent (and putting their name on the cover... that happened to Akira Toriyama (he said it in an interview)). While there is no concrete proof that it is the case with HXH/Togashi (because he never said anything about the DataBooks, anywhere)... there are a few things suggesting that this probably is the case.
Zeno Zoldyck and Silva Zoldicks are transmuters... That is information from DataBooks and it is wrong (in 2-year-old Togashi's NEN Exhibition Memo it is stated that they are Emitters) and similar ''RETCONS'' happened to all of the DataBooks (Hunter × Hunter Hunter Association Official Issue: Hunter's Guide; Character & World Official Databook, ... Hunter x Hunter Characters Book: World × Character × Blessing, ... Yu ★ Yu ★ Hakusho Official Characters Book Reikaishinshiroku (Hunter × Hunter Manual section,... Hunter × Hunter - Omnibus Version (additional information)).
Those are all the characters whose types were proven to be stated wrong across all the DataBooks:
Knuckle = Emitter (NOPE, he's a Conjurer)
Know = Conjurer (NOPE, he's an Emitter)
Meruem = Specialist (NOPE, he's an Emitter)
Ikalgo = Manipulator (NOPE, he's an Enhancer)
Youpi = Enhancer (NOPE, he's a Transmuter)
Zeno, Silva = Transmuters (NOPE, they're Emitters)
Btw the Togashi NEN Exhibition Memo is two pages of NEN info (Leaning Nen Types, 4 levels of NEN proficiency, and NEN type revelations) that draws from real Togashi's notes. (you can do your own research)
One may say that Togashi just retconned himself... but I don't think so, because Retcon on this scale seems really improbable for an author like him. So even if the rest of the info from the DataBooks was legitimate 100% correct Togashi lore... we have no way of knowing or proving it. So until we can, it is safer to assume that everything in the DataBooks is BS.
Thanks for reading.
Generally speaking I view the databooks as supplementary evidence only. I don’t consider it hard data and only use it to back up existing knowledge. I’m also well aware of the Togashi Expo but unfortunately it didn’t matter very much for this specific matchup
@@Professor_Fiction Well I'm not saying that this, or any other video, is invalid because of that. But supporting arguments with an unreliable source has almost the opposite effect... it kinda degrades the validity of the arguments. Because if the argument is good on its own, you don't have/need to back it up with anything... So backing it up with DataBooks makes it seem like it is so weak of an argument that you have to back it up with lies.
Btw this video was good and as you said the DataBook stuff didn't really change anything about it.
I just think that using DataBook info is a disservice to your arguments and videos.
You forgot that the author likes kurapika more so hed win every time
He doesn't have black voice anymore tho
Slight gap in intelligence is insane. Chrollo has debatably the highest battle iq in the verse. Not to mention kurapika’s chain jail is not an instant win, it’s only decent against uvogin because he assumed the chains were real, not nen. And it took kurapika a while to wrap the chains around him. Plus uvo was also blocked by his ego just a bit and has mid battle iq.
how do u make so many objectively wrong takes in 1 sentencr
@@theoriginalnoc what is wrong with my takes? Instead of saying I’m wrong, correct me. Chrollo has the most versatile ability in the entire show. He uses it basically flawlessly, AND in combat. If you disagree with him having the highest battle iq then you’re tripping. Kurapika isn’t even in the top 10 for battle sense. He is so inexperienced he heavily relies on his nen vows. And emperor time. His hardest fight so far was uvo, and that’s not a particularly hard fight for him either. Actually a fairly easy one given uvo is just a muscle head. He doesn’t have any abilities, his whole thing is he just punches really hard. Sure he might outclass everyone in the troupe in strength, but that means if he relies on punches he has to be close range. That’s a terrible ability when you realize he doesn’t have any other win con. You could argue he could scream really loud but that a weak argument. Just weak ear protection or even cover your ears with defensive nen a little. Kurapika has range so I don’t see how that matchup goes any other way. But going back to chrollo, he 1v2’s Silva and Zeno. If you put kurapika in that situation he’s dead. Even hypothetically if his powers would work against them. He just loses 10/10 times. And yeah people say “of but they weren’t going all out”. I get that, but it is still heavily implied and confirmed by Zeno saying one of them would have to die in order to take him out. If he didn’t die then he would win. Basically their win con would be a combo attack. That’s the reason they didn’t go all out. Neither side had a good reason to fight in their encounter. Maybe people are just bias towards kurapika, but I’m stating things that actually happen in the anime and comparing other characters to the scenarios. Plus kurapika is insanely overrated in the power sense. Like yeah put him one on one with most of the troupe, he wins. But that’s against people like shalnark and benolenov. They’re just not the strongest fighters. They’re cool and sure have some abilities, but not that’s strong. Only gets tough when he would fight chrollo, or Hisoka who she loses to as well 10/10 times. Hisoka probably doesn’t count as a spider, cause he faked it the whole time, but if he does then post mortem Hisoka still wipes kurapika.
I probably ain’t gonna watch but uh im just gonna say that chrollo would definitely win assuming he has info on kurapikas chains which he should. Anyway imma just leave a like and comment.
lmao no, Kurapika takes it majority of the time. None of of the PT members have an above 50% chance of beating Kurapika, Chain Jail is just too strong of a win con, and people really don't put enough respect on just the raw physical fighting ability Kurapika has in emperor time, his performance vs Uvogin before even hitting Chain Jail is extremely impressive especially considering he was still so new to nen.
This fight comes down to how much Chrollo knows about Kurapika's abilities by the time they fight. There is no limit to the strategies he could use aslong as he knows what he is going up against. That's what makes Chrollo dangerous. People forget that he could technically use ANY hatsu in the story.
He cannot use any hatsu in the story lol. Some characters have abilities that make it impossible to fit the conditions to be stolen, some characters are already dead, etc.
@rylace Who has an ability he couldn't steal? An armless person who can't talk? 😂
And yes obviously he can't take the abilities of dead people that doesn't change the fact he could have done if they were alive. My point is there isn't anything he can't do.
Chrollo couldnt steal Zeno and Silvas abilities and def wouldnt steal Neteros abilities
I know who wins but I won't say it
I doubt kurapika would be able to parry chrollos knife he has shown no speed feats that are comparable to chrollos,
I mean catching multiple bullets in a slot in a chain,is a little more impressive than parying a whole knife