Which Camino to Walk? Camino Frances vs. Camino Portugues

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024

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  • @hidavidwen
    @hidavidwen  2 года назад +7

    What did you find to be the biggest differences between the Camino Frances vs. Portugues?

  • @KirstenStalker
    @KirstenStalker Год назад +8

    Worth pointing out to people watching David walking on the roads when covering the different routes. Never, ever walk with your back to the oncoming traffic as he did on his example in the video. The international rule of professional hikers is always walk on the roadside facing the oncoming traffic even if it means changing sides everytime you get close to sharp corners (then walk on the widest side to be most visible to traffic and less blindspots).

  • @sujaeha6833
    @sujaeha6833 5 месяцев назад +3

    hello
    I'm Korean.
    I took the train from Rome, Italy to Via Francigena to Milan, departed from Sands Gallen, Switzerland, took the Swiss Camino, and then walked the French GR65 Rupres Camino - North of Santiago.
    I walked about 2700 km for 3 months. It was a fantastic length.

  • @liseburnett9219
    @liseburnett9219 Год назад +4

    Very well said! I walked the Frances and I feel that you captured the experience in an authentic way. Like the balance of camaraderie and time alone. The simplicity of the now moment and food!!!
    If I may share, my sister had done several Caminos (7), she is a Camino veteran so to speak and kept inviting me to go... I kept replying, " Well... don't really get the feeling..." Fast forward in 2014 I am hiking in the Peruvian Andes and the Camino comes in my mind, I am Settling back home and the Camino is my new web pastime,,, what??? I call my sister and said:" I don't know what's going on but all of a sudden this Camino is on my mind!" She replied: "Ah... the Camino called you." Shockingly, I burst into tears! I then knew I had to go! I went from BC Canada to my first trip in Europe alone! It had to be alone and it was awesome! It is awkward to share the mysteries of the Camino... sometimes it comes in such sweet simple things like the day someone put a tangerine and a kiwi on a KM post for me to find when I needed it so much! Buen Camino!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад

      Thanks Lise for sharing. I get it too! The camino calls :)
      I miss the camino spirit. Have you been able to find that same spirit back in “society?”

  • @rosudar
    @rosudar 7 месяцев назад +1

    April 2023 I walked the 150 KM Spiritual route from Baiona to Santiago. Your videos...I remember some of the vistas, boat ride, and places you experienced. Your advice is really good. Good job! Our bags were picked up and transferred daily. You are also spot on water filling along the way.😊

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks! Buen camino

  • @meredithmarek1
    @meredithmarek1 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks so much for sharing your thoughtful and insightful experiences in the space! I’m leaving on Thursday for Porto and will walk a similar route as you (as much as someone can plan these things 😂). I walked the Frances route, finishing in 2017, so I’m very curious and weary about comparing the two experiences because I do think they’ll be very different. Watching your videos has got me excited though for whatever comes my way. Wishing you all the best and look forward to seeing what adventures you pursue next. (btw, I’m a fellow compatriot who decided to make Germany her home many years ago and that has made ALL the difference).

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  4 месяца назад

      Aw thanks! the camino from Porto is beautiful! I am actually back on the camino at the moment (via de la
      Plata) so buen camino!

  • @peterfontaine4627
    @peterfontaine4627 Год назад +4

    David--mil gracias! I am planning my Camino for 2024. I am going back and forth between the two but leaning toward the Portugues, starting in Lisbon (yes, I have seen that most people don't do that--that start up in Porto). This was a great comparison, and you included some aspects I hadn't been aware of. I too want to do the Central Route, but dip into the Coastal for maybe a day or two and then cross back over.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад

      You’re welcome Peter and thanks for the kind words. I met a few who started in Lisbon. You’ll enjoy it whatever route you decide to do. I miss it the camino and hope to be back again soon. Buen camino!

  • @kitty_s23456
    @kitty_s23456 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this! Comment for algorithm. This was a very concise comparison of the 2 routes. As of now, I prefer the Portuguese route because as you've said - there's fewer people and less commercial. But that's just now - could change later. Still dreaming & planning. Buen camino!
    P.s. You're very attractive. Lol. 😊

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks 😊, I also enjoy the Portuguese. Less people. I’m doing another one soon…Buen camino!

  • @kawaitsang733
    @kawaitsang733 Год назад +1

    Thank you for sharing. I am struggle between Camino Portugues and Camino France!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад

      You’re welcome Kawai…you can’t go wrong with either!

    • @patrickrambeaux9796
      @patrickrambeaux9796 Год назад

      Hello, i have walked 9 times the camino frances, they are a lot of Asian people, most of them are from Corea, it's so fun. I plan to do the camino Portuguese next year 😉👍.

  • @paulz6491
    @paulz6491 11 месяцев назад +1

    Terrific video, thank you for a very thoughtful and comprehensive comparison 😊

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks! Buen camino

  • @margaretmarydempster4738
    @margaretmarydempster4738 Год назад +1

    Thank you! Excellent feedback! 🇨🇦

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад

      You’re welcome and buen camino!

  • @marcos7106
    @marcos7106 4 месяца назад +1

    Great summary. Thank you very much

  • @msrunner333
    @msrunner333 2 года назад +1

    very generous of you to make this video - gracias!

  • @rawadventures2024
    @rawadventures2024 Год назад +1

    This is a wonderful Video David, congratulations. My friend and I have walked the Frances and plan to walk the Portuguese from Lisbon from April 2024. We were starting to doubt ourselves and thought about going back to CF for the familiarity of it but your video has given us confidence to do the CP. our main concern was the cobblestones and road walking as my friend suffered from tendinitis last time.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад +1

      Thanks and buen camino! You’ll love the CP too

  • @elcamino4799
    @elcamino4799 2 года назад +2

    Hi, David. How's it going? A great report!!! Lots of practical and useful information... I think it's wonderful to have an experience and then make a result that help other people.Buen trabajo! En estos días estoy estudiando mucho español. Chao, nos vemos!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      Hey hey doing well! Thanks and glad you found it useful. Yeah just trying to share anything that may help others. Yo también necesito practicar…my Spanish is getting rusty haha.

  • @Gettinglostonthetrail
    @Gettinglostonthetrail 2 года назад +1

    Well done David!!! Great presentation. Very informative video. Will send wife this video. Heading out of Arzua today we decided to do the Porto Camino in two years with the boys. This time no more stroller/scooter LOL. Tomorrow we are heading into Santiago. Excited and sad that our Camino Frances is coming to an end. It’s been such an awesome adventure. You are my inspiration to do the Porto next. Buen Camino!!!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      Thanks! Always appreciate you. You and your family are very inspiring. I just returned to the Netherlands from California and look forward to catching up on your journeys soon.
      But Santiago tomorrow, buen camino and looking forward to seeing your videos!

  • @noonep11
    @noonep11 2 года назад +2

    Ta David, agree, done both, Best bit we found was SDC to Finisterre, Zambourinas were ace with albarino wine. Portuguese don't seem to have bought into it yet as much as the Spanish. Best value was €7.50 for bike and panniers across Miho from Caminha to A Guarda. The fishermen were great. Scenery is beautiful for both, last day Portuguese has lost of climbs, bit of a surprise. Obrigado

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      Thanks Pedro. That is still on my list to do..walking SDC to Finisterre (I took the bus). It looks like a beautiful way to end the Camino. Hopefully next time!

    • @davidwallace8353
      @davidwallace8353 Год назад

      Agree albarino wine is very good

  • @ambla23
    @ambla23 2 года назад +1

    Very informative, David. A Camino is on my bucket list, so I really enjoyed this comparison.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      You’re welcome and glad you found it informative! You’ll enjoy the camino whichever one you do :)

  • @irinabenea4561
    @irinabenea4561 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hola David,gracias por compartiste la tua experiencias de los dos caminos ,eres un buon caminante un ejemplo.In 2018 agosto ,ho hecho il camino frances e credo che nos encontramos in Portomarin mi acuerdo del tuo nome Wen .Tistoy siguendo come hai fatto il camino portughese es muy bonito pero los alberghes e la comida mas cara.Un saludo

  • @carolynyim1277
    @carolynyim1277 2 года назад +1

    Thanks David for sharing. I appreciate your perspective and find your videos helpful! Plan on my Portuguese Way for next month and I’m from SF too!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      You’re welcome Carolyn! Wow next month, have a great one and Bom caminho/buen camino!

  • @pedroclaro7822
    @pedroclaro7822 Год назад +1

    Well structured and planned video, timestamps, perfect diction (except European words haha) and good shots of the route, housing, etc. You make it hard for a European to compete.
    Also I lived in Porto for a couple years and never saw a pilgrim on the streets. Coastal route is lonelier, more peaceful.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад +1

      Thanks for sharing Pedro and the kind words! Coastal route is less busy but more peaceful for sure

  • @rebecahuetoreyes3651
    @rebecahuetoreyes3651 2 года назад +1

    Hola David, gracias por compartir tus viajes, hermoso todo....Veracruz _ México.....Saludos..

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      Hola Rebeca y de nada. Muchas gracias a ti. Saludos desde California

  • @paulhumphrey2655
    @paulhumphrey2655 9 месяцев назад +2

    Hi David, really enjoyed watching you're vid on Camino Portuguese from porto and the differences of the Camino frances and the Portuguese way.
    If you only had 2 weeks vacation would you do Porto to Santiago or a 2 week section of the Camino frances?

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks! I’d do the portugués

  • @loritae9808
    @loritae9808 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing.
    I can’t wait my Camino. I am planning for Coastal to spiritual variant. I like to meet people but also love to have solitude, too

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      You’re welcome Lori! I hope you have a wonderful time :)

    • @OrganizeKaos
      @OrganizeKaos Год назад

      Hi, what’s the spiritual variant

    • @loritae9808
      @loritae9808 Год назад

      @@OrganizeKaos it’s longer but prettier way Pintevedra to Santiago. I took coastal way. Spiritual variant will require half day longer.

  • @yvonneip9980
    @yvonneip9980 2 года назад +1

    Will definitely try💪🏻thx for your sharing

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      Hope you do Yvonne! And hope you have a nice summer :)

  • @florrosas1689
    @florrosas1689 2 года назад +1

    Gracias David, compartiste tus experiencias de los 2 caminos y adoro eso porqué quiero hacerlos me parecen experiencias que debemos tener y es lo que nos llevamos cuando nos toqué partir de éste mundo, también me gustaría hacer el camino del Quijote. Gracias David, un abrazo grande y buen camino amigo 🤗

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      Muchas gracias flor! Oh el camino del Quijote? Interesante. Pues buen camino y espero que estes bien! 😃😃

  • @hart-coded
    @hart-coded Год назад +1

    thx this was so helpful

  • @montserrat722010
    @montserrat722010 11 месяцев назад

    Great video. Thanks for all the info and comparison. Hope to go next year!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes and buen camino!

  • @akikofujishima3829
    @akikofujishima3829 Год назад

    Thanks so much for all this information. It has been very helpful.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад

      You’re welcome, buen camino!

  • @patshozo9158
    @patshozo9158 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for doing the comparison video! I wanted to know the differences between the 2 camino. We are planning on the Portugues camino as we are not in a hurry, older, and booking hotels or home stays (no albergues). Just the 100kM to get the compostella is what we are looking to do.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад +1

      You're welcome Pat! I think you'll have a great time on the Camino Portugues. It's a great one especially if you are not in a hurry and taking it easy. I miss it and had a great time. Buen camino =)

  • @AccumbensNucleus
    @AccumbensNucleus Год назад +1

    Good analysis!

  • @judixx
    @judixx 2 года назад +1

    Hi David, thx for the great comparison. I guess I would go for Camino Frances overall. Also, this is so enticing to see the books behind you. Would you be doing a book review in the future?

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      Hi Judy - you can't go wrong with the Camino Frances! Oh I love books =) I organize a book club (related to my profession). That's a good idea...maybe in the future I will!
      Let me know if you have any other questions I can help answer regarding the Camino!

  • @vcloveartzh4858
    @vcloveartzh4858 2 года назад +3

    Hi David,
    Love your video. Done Camino Frances back in 2015! Simply love it! Wanted to do the Camino Portuguese, can I know if the route are well marked as I plan to walk alone. Much Thanks!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад +2

      Thanks a lot for the kind words! Yes it is well marked as well, you won’t have a problem. I mean the only time I got lost was because I was daydreaming and I didn’t pay attention…but I eventually found my way 😂 but It is easy to follow just like Camino Frances

  • @paulproffitt9253
    @paulproffitt9253 Год назад +1

    Hello David……have just finished the Camino Ingles….Loved it and looking to go back…..Am 78 years young and not in a rush…..are there plenty of hotels along the Frances? Do not plan on staying at auberges……thanks for sharing your videos….Paul

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад

      Hi Paul - congrats! I have the Ingles on my list too. There are plenty of hotels and private accommodations on the Frances. Use Booking.com to find and reserve them
      Thanks for watching!
      David

  • @soniarodriguez3810
    @soniarodriguez3810 Год назад

    Never occurred to me that there was a "french" camino and a "portuguese" one since Santiago de Compostela is in Espain! Thanks for the video!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад +1

      There are many Caminos! You can even start in Germany, Netherlands, etc

    • @KirstenStalker
      @KirstenStalker Год назад +1

      There's a "full" pilgrimage route which starts in Ireland crosses the UK then heads over to Europe. You can get the passport for that in Ireland and start getting your stamps there, then cross to A Coruña. Look up for example the Celtic Camino or Camino Ingles.

    • @soniarodriguez3810
      @soniarodriguez3810 Год назад

      @@KirstenStalker Thanks!

  • @davidwallace8353
    @davidwallace8353 Год назад

    We agree. We walked the Frances in 2016 and the Portuguese central in 2019. The Frances was 41 days and the Portuguese was 14 days. I think the Frances was longer and you got in a rhythm more and it was easier on your feet, knees and ankles. Shin splints was an issue. Onthe Portuguese it felt like you just started and it was over. Also hated those Roman roads:)

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад

      Thanks David. You got me thinking about doing another Camino right now! Are you hoping to do another one?

    • @davidwallace8353
      @davidwallace8353 Год назад +1

      I had my stomach removed due to cancer in 2021. They set up a valve from my intestine to my esophagus so i can eat a cup at a time. Mainly carnivore diet. I eat 6 meals a day.We did 6 weeks in France in 2022 Paris and Provence using airbnb's so I have access to a kitchen and shop at local markets. Planning Naples, Sorrento, Amalfi coast, Puglia and Corfu in 2024. My Camino days are over due to strength issues. Lost 50 lbs but I keep on keeping on.

  •  Год назад +1

    Obrigado!

  • @yayalyssamae
    @yayalyssamae Год назад +1

    Hi David! Thank you so much for the detailed summary of both these routes! My two friends and I are planning a trip out in May this summer, and we are soo stoked! Quick question for you.. You had mentioned that the France Way has more options for overnight accommodations, but it is also a race to find a bed. Do you think we will have trouble finding a place to stay during May or will it not be too difficult?

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад +2

      Hi Alyssa! Thanks and you're welcome =)
      It's especially a bed race on the Camino Frances, but May is low season...so it should be a lot easier compared to June-August. I went in October and still encountered the bed race.
      PERSONALLY...it's a lesson in itself too to be honest. A lesson in patience and going with the flow. That sometimes things won't go according to plan...and you won't have a bed...but you will always find a way =)

  • @_lizllamas
    @_lizllamas Год назад +1

    Hi David! Your video has been very informative (actually, it has been the best!) I have one question! What happens if you don´t get a bed? Can you sleep outside or in the floor? I don´t want to rush and I don´t mind these options haha. Thank you!

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад +1

      Hey Liz! Haha yeah I can understand. That happened to me a few times. Luckily the camino provides…once, the small town we were in was completely full…but we were told to wait because some times locals will open up their places…and luckily one man opened up his hostel. Another place, they gave us sleeping mats to sleep on the floor. There will always be a way…also a lesson of the camino!

  • @nikolayfedotov438
    @nikolayfedotov438 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for videos! Have you met people who had started from Lisbon? What've they said about amenities on their way?

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад +1

      You’re welcome! Yes I’ve met people who stated in Lisbon. It was more difficult (amenities) from Lisbon…that’s a fact…but they made it :)

  • @lily_wonder_land
    @lily_wonder_land Год назад +1

    Hi David! Im doing camino portugués this year, 12 stages, pretty much based on your route, which I thank for 🙌🏼
    I’ve a question, did you take a 40L backpack for this route? Im thinking to take a 24L only.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад +1

      Hi Lily! I took a 33L. My friend is taking a 24L on the camino francés so it’s doable :)

    • @lily_wonder_land
      @lily_wonder_land Год назад

      @@hidavidwen Got you! Im glad is doable, Thanks!
      It’s really awesome what you have done, you opened the way for people like us who wanted to travel and did not know exactly how…, now I feel secure based on your stories…thanks again! You are the best! Greetings from México! 🇲🇽

  • @marcogutierrez8669
    @marcogutierrez8669 10 месяцев назад

    Please David, coulomb you ley id know which time of year you were on each of the caminos.

  • @U-COPY
    @U-COPY 2 года назад

    Hey, David. Since my mother is intersted in Camino trips and as I am doing research, I found your vids and found it really helpful. Thanks for making high quality vids about Camino trips. I watched your both Camino France and Portugues and in terms of scenery, I do like Portugues alot and also days of trip are shorter than France version so I am thinking of going for Portugues route. You mentioned there was some risk when you changed from Coastal route to Central route when you did Portugues Camino, so do you recommend to start from Central route for safety? Also if budget is not your option and you are going with your family, which route would you take?

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      Hey Nicholas! The Portuguese is a great route. The Central route out of Porto isn’t so nice…but crossing over from Coastal to Central route was also not nice. I don’t know what physical condition your mom is in…but I wouldn’t want my mom doing that (if she were to do a camino). I’d recommend sticking to one route. I’m from California so am used to seeing the coast…my family too…so I would do the central route with my family.
      But if you’re not familiar with seeing coastal/ocean views and want a scenic walk..the coastal would be nice.

    • @U-COPY
      @U-COPY 2 года назад +1

      ​@@hidavidwen This camino trip is for my mother. We've been to Iceland and Vancouver so we are used to Ocean view. She is catholic and she said she wants to do this trip before she dies. She is in mid 60s and I will make sure she exercises to prepare for the trip but yeah so I would find the easier route for her. I would love to go with coastal/ocean views but sound like we should stick to central route.

    • @paulz6491
      @paulz6491 11 месяцев назад

      @@U-COPYDid you make the trip and if so how did it go and which route did you pick? Thanks 😊

  • @leigha6275
    @leigha6275 Год назад +1

    Thank you @David Wen for this very helpful video. I'd sincerely appreciate your thoughts: To what extent do you think wild camping or camping in campgrounds is possible on the Camino Frances? My partner and I are experienced lightweight backpackers and already have our gear and would enjoy being able to camp part of the time and to occasionally stay in albergues and hotels. And do you think it would it be possible to do this while still meeting up with new friends for meals in town? We've also heard horror stories about how noisy some of the albergues can be at night, making it impossible to sleep, so that a tent for a good part of the time seems even more attractive (would you agree)?

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад +1

      Hi Leigh - I didn’t meet anyone who wild camped on the Frances. I did meet a few with tents who never used though. I’m sure people do it and I can see many open spaces where you could. I don’t know of any official campgrounds for camping on the Frances as I didn’t do it myself. I think if you wild camped in the countryside, you could still meet up friends. Though I’d still recommend the albergues or to book private hotels/rooms and stay in town :) that’s also a big part of the experience…even the snorers! In fact, those were some of the fondest memories hahaha…where we spent the next morning talking about that ONE SNORER. Good times. And I only had a few sleepless nights (out of 30ish) but the majority were fine-I was so tired that I could sleep through anything :)

    • @leigha6275
      @leigha6275 Год назад +1

      ​@@hidavidwen Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm finding there are people who camp in the inner courtyard or gardens of albergues for a small fee so they can use the facilities, as well as campgrounds and some wild camping. Not every albergue allows this. Some recommend asking people in town where it's possible to camp.

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад +1

      @@leigha6275 Oh I'm sure there are. I just never met or saw anyone who did. I hope you find your way...whether it's at an albergue, a hotel, or in a tent! I'm sure you will. Enjoy it Leigh!

    • @leigha6275
      @leigha6275 Год назад

      ​@@hidavidwen Thank you very much. Your personal experience matters much more than any quick comment in a guide book or forum and I really appreciate you sharing it. Also wondering about the cost of private rooms for 2 in an albergue, government guest house or modest hotel versus the cost of 2 people staying in your average albergue. If we don't take our camping gear we'd love to know we have the option of a quiet room if loud noise is a problem.

  • @anamyers2686
    @anamyers2686 Год назад +1

    David, how did you get your phone data from? If you buy data for Portugal, does it work in Spain?

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад

      Hi Ana - I live in the Netherlands and my data plan also works in the EU (so Spain too). If you buy from Portugal, it should work in Spain as well (most data plans bought within the EU work within the EU)

    • @Peacemaker79
      @Peacemaker79 11 месяцев назад

      Hi David , i am from The Nederlands too and i was wondering are there extra costs when you cross the border within Europe data wise ?

  • @krubenito1
    @krubenito1 Год назад +1

    I have 15 days and I’m going wit a 4 year old boy (bike trailer) and my wife ! Wich camino is better? I woulylik the portugués ( I don’t like lots of people

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад

      Camino Portugues! It's perfect for 15 days. Less crowded. Beautiful. Buen camino!

  • @EduardoABrito
    @EduardoABrito Год назад +1

    In which month did you walk the Camino Portuguese?

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  Год назад +2

      April. Great time to go. Any time is great time actually!

  • @claudelambert9916
    @claudelambert9916 10 месяцев назад

    its not called St John ( its Saint-Jean-Pied-de Port )

  • @charitahshyruh6201
    @charitahshyruh6201 2 года назад +1

    Hello David just came across your videos .Great channel . I have a request do you have any online job so I can make a living? it’s have been hard since corona .thanks 🙏

    • @hidavidwen
      @hidavidwen  2 года назад

      Thanks Charitah. Unfortunately, I do not have any online jobs. I understand it's been hard. I usually use LinkedIn or Indeed to find jobs. Sometimes Facebook groups too. I hope you find something. 🙏

    • @charitahshyruh6201
      @charitahshyruh6201 2 года назад

      @@hidavidwen thank You 🙏

  • @leonelmateus
    @leonelmateus Год назад

    Caminho Portugues. not camino - that's espanol.