+Jackie Fish Haha. Still this video only reinforces my idea that Apollo is a good field commander / general but if he had to deal with logistics, troop training, and resource management he would make mistakes. I believe that's why he rarely does videos on overall campaigns but I still love the guy. "Oh captain, my captain."
Suggestion for a next fun video on TATW. One choke point, one Good army with 2 or 3 pikes units and 5 catapults and one Evil army with hundreds of cheap troops. Could be nice for a short video, don't you think guys? You gotta love artillery. :D
That was a good fight! I liked Rhun's early aggression, but oddly enough it petered out once the dwarves attacked the gates. You said his biggest mistake was that he didn't leave any infantry in reserve, but I actually think it was the fact that he didn't notice that only HALF of his walls were under attack. The dwarves were all attacking one gate-the other was unharmed. Rhun should've charged his general outside to attack their iron crossbows while they were taking the outer hill, which would've saved a ton of lives. Plus it would've deprived the dwarves of more bodies to throw into the final fight, and could've even silenced the catapult if he got lucky.
Ant36 Route It was a risk I think he had to take. There were still dwarven infantry outside, yes, but they were a distance away from their iron crossbows. Not to mention dwarves run slowly, so even if the opponent saw it coming he would've either been unable to save the crossbows, or had to run off the hill in order to save them, either of which Prevents that flanking fire. More likely than not the dwarven player's attention was at the front gate where he was pushing, so a bold tactic like a cav charge outside could've paid dividends. If he was smart about it, of course. Like Michael De Pauw said, that friendly fire was killer. He definitely melted some elite dwarves, but later on there were so few enemies in the blob he was targeting that he just kept hitting his own troops. He should've stopped firing a couple minutes earlier, saving lives and ammo. There are other little things that Apollo pointed out, like Rhun's poor cav micro in general, but he pretty much threw the battle with those two big mistakes.
I know this isn't about the video, but I remember that when I first started playing medieval 2 I came up with some weird (and unorthodox) strategies. For example: a "noob" square that leaves the back open for more line defense. Almost works, surprisingly.
These two were really evenly matched. The strategy on both sides was sound, but they didn't seem to know how to use their units to the fullest. Situational awareness is so important.
Another bad factor is that the pathfinding on this particular map is really iffy, especially outside the castle. It's not uncommon for units to refuse charging or moving, if they're standing in certain spots. The malfunctioning calvary charge at the start of the battle (2:45) is a good example of this.
It seems to mostly be on the outside of the castle. I know that units on the invading side are actually completely unable to retreat when they rout - The castle is located on an island, so units cannot reach the edges of the map. As a result, routing units just stand in place, and go into "Fighting to the Death" mode as soon as they're attacked. I don't know how bad it is on other maps, due to lack of experience with the mod, but I'm willing to bet that Cair Andros is one of the worst ones due to the nonstandard context of being an island fortress.
i was just about to comment for my first time and i wanted to say you should play some more third age.... i go on youtube and you upload this^^ best man on youtube
Hey Pixelated Apollo, Love your vids, but I think my favorite part are those little polls you put up! I love doing those! Do you use them for feedback, or just for fun?
+Alsace Thriene Maybe 100.000 views. July is only two months away from now, and it's only up to 45k views. It's only slowly building up too, so I don't think we'll get 150k subs by then. But maybe. :) Maybe I'll turn out wrong.
i had 20 units of iron guard fight 3 saurons. all but 1 soldier was fighting the saurons and he still wouldn't rout.. the stubbornness of the dwarves is impressive
N Yes! Rhûn finally gets used. Favorite faction of all time. Their units are so cool looking and they are very well balanced. I hope they win (I haven't watched it all yet.)
How do I find these battle to become a part of them? Medieval 2 has been my favorite Total War for years and I want to get in on this amazing TATW action!
Hey I'm newly subscribed and have a newby question so please don't hate me. So this mod total war, for all the different time eras like ww1 and Medieval. Do they all come with the mod or are they all expansions?
becuse Smaug wasn't just a dragon , he was the most powerfull living dragon in the Third Age...and they had dragon slayers to fight the dragons that came from the North, wich are dragons or drakes much more smaller and less powerfull than Smaug...
+Andre Ribeiro Smaug attacked them randomly. most of the time when dwarves fought Dragons they were prepared, either a war or attacking a dragons nest. (I n the first age, the dwarves were the only race that could withstand some dragons breath and be able to kill them) Smaug was basically a 1st age dragon, surprised them, also, most dragons at this point have died
Nice replay and commentary. Don't you think that the dwarves' general made a bad use of his pikeman ? I mean, he did not use them as a protective force against the ennemy cavalry which has done some damage to the dwarves first line, (slowing them and by this the ennemy get some nice kill and time) and crossbow too => Pikemans instead stayed in the back. And once those guys engage the fight they've been raped by missiles units. In this battle they were pretty useless. Dwarves have pretty nothing against cavalry, once you get units devoted for, why not using it ? I mean if they were so useless in the final siege against missile units, then why not positionning them in the flank of your crossbow or first line unit and make them progressing together. Use them as a defensive shield on flank ? Please let me know if i'm wrong and if there is a reason why the dwarven general did not do that. Thanks ! Peace !
+BlackbeardGaming But in the films when the ladders fell down they killed 100s of orcs. And I seriously doubt 2 or 3 men (all the room there is) are able to pull the super heavy ladders up.
***** Yes it obviously is. With pushing you do not have to pick up all that weight which would be practically impossible. Yeah changing the angle to make it farther away when its on the well yeah right. Because its impossible to pull a heavy ladder with troops on it. Its called exaggerating for effect genius. 2 ppl can easily hold the ladder down then people get on the ladder then you can't pull it up and even if you do which is practically impossible you're pulling the enemies towards you. And? Its still would be worth killing hundreds of your enemies through the ladder squashing them and you can't even pull it up in the first place so...
The dwarfs finally take Cair Andros !
;) rise of the dwarves
+Jackie Fish Haha. Still this video only reinforces my idea that Apollo is a good field commander / general but if he had to deal with logistics, troop training, and resource management he would make mistakes. I believe that's why he rarely does videos on overall campaigns but I still love the guy. "Oh captain, my captain."
+Jackie Fish wooow spoilers!
For the Dwarves!!!
+FiremasterXXL KHAZAD AI MENU!!!
" a small unit of dwarfs" is that a short joke
Lol
I'm not gonna lie Apollo, I subbed to you because of Third Age. I'm sure i'm not alone.
I did too but then I found his Napoleon total war that is also epic.
+Archon170 im with u man ;)
yeah, me too
+Archon170 Yeap. Me too
yup
Suggestion for a next fun video on TATW.
One choke point, one Good army with 2 or 3 pikes units and 5 catapults and one Evil army with hundreds of cheap troops. Could be nice for a short video, don't you think guys? You gotta love artillery. :D
Yea
And make it a life of a soldier from a evil perspective
OPierreLouisO is
Jon Jenkins and
Pixelated Apollo I love the dwarves,I want to see more battles with them.I love your vids man.Keep it up
I love the elves
+Michael O'Rourke the elves rule the rest druel
+Michael O'Rourke Never trust an elf! I will be dead before I see the Ring in the hands of an elf. *heated debate stirs up immediately*
Nice video as always. It is always good to see Tolkin's works gaining life, but i would like to see more videos with Dale.
the Loke Flag Rim are the best to deal with dwarves. Heavy inf. plus armor piercing = dead dwarf
+shenphilip1 haha very true
That was a good fight! I liked Rhun's early aggression, but oddly enough it petered out once the dwarves attacked the gates. You said his biggest mistake was that he didn't leave any infantry in reserve, but I actually think it was the fact that he didn't notice that only HALF of his walls were under attack. The dwarves were all attacking one gate-the other was unharmed. Rhun should've charged his general outside to attack their iron crossbows while they were taking the outer hill, which would've saved a ton of lives. Plus it would've deprived the dwarves of more bodies to throw into the final fight, and could've even silenced the catapult if he got lucky.
What about the 3 or 4 reserves the dwarve have?They were running down the mountain into the gate and up the town center for the final push.
+Ant36 Route I also feel like rhun killed too many of his own men with friendly fire, like almost 400, and not just his weak men, also his elite
Ant36 Route
It was a risk I think he had to take. There were still dwarven infantry outside, yes, but they were a distance away from their iron crossbows. Not to mention dwarves run slowly, so even if the opponent saw it coming he would've either been unable to save the crossbows, or had to run off the hill in order to save them, either of which Prevents that flanking fire. More likely than not the dwarven player's attention was at the front gate where he was pushing, so a bold tactic like a cav charge outside could've paid dividends. If he was smart about it, of course. Like Michael De Pauw said, that friendly fire was killer. He definitely melted some elite dwarves, but later on there were so few enemies in the blob he was targeting that he just kept hitting his own troops. He should've stopped firing a couple minutes earlier, saving lives and ammo.
There are other little things that Apollo pointed out, like Rhun's poor cav micro in general, but he pretty much threw the battle with those two big mistakes.
the dwarven general was just shouting: For the knights of apollo to his men :)
+Mick Welling hahaha
+Pixelated Apollo Make video on how to download this mod and where to find the stuff to do it
+Matthew Grammer go to lionheartx10's channel because he made a tutorial of it like one or two months ago :P
Mick Welling no he was trying to kill a wasp
Mick Welling
YES YES YES MORE 3 AGE !
nice vid keep it up u r my favourite youtuber
Hehehehe. Yea boii! These Third Age vids make my week.
Time to Oil Up!
Michael Bracey Heheheheh. Hot 'n' spicy meat.
love the DWARVES.fun battle to watch.keep the good job Apollo
Pixie the third age legend!Ur by far my most favorite u tube.Best commentator ever
Awsome battle Apollo!
That failed Cav charge is so frustrating
+BillyPilgrim haha yeah he could of gotten a lot more kill there
pixie, you should put the Knights of Apollo crest in the top left corner or something in every battle it would look legit and on fleek as ever.
I know this isn't about the video, but I remember that when I first started playing medieval 2 I came up with some weird (and unorthodox) strategies. For example: a "noob" square that leaves the back open for more line defense. Almost works, surprisingly.
This battle was lovely thanks for the video!
Wow I joined with 40k and that in December it's amazing how fast you've grown
Watching Pixelated Apollo while eating breakfast
YES WITH THE THIRD AGE!!!......how about some westeros action?
+pixelated apollo can you do more cair andros battles:D and the battle of five armies.
Lol the frustration that pixie has towards the Rhun player
These two were really evenly matched. The strategy on both sides was sound, but they didn't seem to know how to use their units to the fullest. Situational awareness is so important.
Another bad factor is that the pathfinding on this particular map is really iffy, especially outside the castle. It's not uncommon for units to refuse charging or moving, if they're standing in certain spots. The malfunctioning calvary charge at the start of the battle (2:45) is a good example of this.
+Garner465 that's a good point. Are those issues a general side effect of the mod or are there specific locations on each map that interrupt movement?
It seems to mostly be on the outside of the castle. I know that units on the invading side are actually completely unable to retreat when they rout - The castle is located on an island, so units cannot reach the edges of the map. As a result, routing units just stand in place, and go into "Fighting to the Death" mode as soon as they're attacked.
I don't know how bad it is on other maps, due to lack of experience with the mod, but I'm willing to bet that Cair Andros is one of the worst ones due to the nonstandard context of being an island fortress.
More third age please!!!
YESSSS LOVE UR SEIGE BATTLES BROOO
i was just about to comment for my first time and i wanted to say you should play some more third age.... i go on youtube and you upload this^^ best man on youtube
this is a great battle keep making more and more
Do you think you could play more naval battles? not just napoleon though. shogun 2's and rome 2's naval battles can get pretty awesome too.
this is one of my favorite episodes, i always align myself with the dwarf, my favorite faction by far.
apollo your my favourite youtuber ever your good at what you do as well keep it up
Man, you've grown so much! Have you got any tips? :D
See the survey you did? can you tell us the results and what you're gonna do in the future?
Who/what is their god
Pixi can u pls do a Gallipoli senario it's a really good one it's from the Great War mod total war thx love ya (not in that way)
thats a good idea
Nice video, never disappoints....
"RIP in peace" - Rest in peace in peace.
It has always bugged me lol
+theZeroAlchemist Rest in pieces in peace
No wonder the dwarves were struggling when their leader is standing behind Rhun and cheering on the enemy! >:(
I love your videos keep them up 😌
We need another classic Gondor vs Mordor!
YAY A NEW ONE
Hey Pixelated Apollo, Love your vids, but I think my favorite part are those little polls you put up! I love doing those! Do you use them for feedback, or just for fun?
I don't know why, but i enjoy Third Age and Napoleon Battles the most.
Whenever he says 1v1 i always hear squeakers screaming 1V1 ME SKRUB
At last, the boys in gold!
11:23 im literally dying idk why its not even that funny XD
There is no greater soldier, then a Russian soldier.
Apollo you might be a master commander, but I'm a master debater
I can't see how that's funny...............no really.
Rhun should have either spaced out his archers early and kept some infantry in reserve, or Split his archers into the sides of the hill.
Nothing says success like 200 views and 20 likes in one minute ;) 150k subs by July??? Quite possibly.
Right
+Drillsgtteddy Actually its 1 dislike
I'm think 350 k
+Alsace Thriene Maybe 100.000 views. July is only two months away from now, and it's only up to 45k views. It's only slowly building up too, so I don't think we'll get 150k subs by then. But maybe. :) Maybe I'll turn out wrong.
+Souhail Mrabti 24 dislikes now. :P
With these Losses from the Dwarfs the Armies of Rhûn will return hastily and quickly
damn!!, those pole arm unit are op AF
i had 20 units of iron guard fight 3 saurons. all but 1 soldier was fighting the saurons and he still wouldn't rout.. the stubbornness of the dwarves is impressive
Great battle Pix
N Yes! Rhûn finally gets used. Favorite faction of all time. Their units are so cool looking and they are very well balanced. I hope they win (I haven't watched it all yet.)
Why no images of army comps? :(
Dwarves are awesome, nuff said
Dwarves are awesome!!!!! Is it possible to put you catapult on the hill in front of the fort and fire into the troops exposed?
Have you guys done the battle that's in the First Hobbit movie, the Gates of Moria with Azog vs Thror?
Would love to see some Medieval II vanilla again :P
Yo pixel, are you gonna play warhammer total war when it comes out? Looks pretty fun
+Howard Robertson do I really have to answer that question :P
+Pixelated Apollo more tug of war!!!!!!!!!please!(like if u agree
+Pixelated Apollo I choose to fight for harad, just sit with a bow and arrows on the back of a mumikill
+Alwin Schuuring Schuuring I'd probably be a traitorous rohorrim Lord that fights for isengard with a small army of traitor rohirrim.
Nice video can you do more third age videos please
It's battle of the guards v2!
How do I find these battle to become a part of them? Medieval 2 has been my favorite Total War for years and I want to get in on this amazing TATW action!
I would really love to play a siege battle on tatw with you sometime!
YESH THIRD AGE
Hey I'm newly subscribed and have a newby question so please don't hate me. So this mod total war, for all the different time eras like ww1 and Medieval. Do they all come with the mod or are they all expansions?
Nice video there always so cool love you 😄😏😉 best youtuber
Holy shit this was uploaded 2 mins ago fastest time I'll seen a vid
Apollo the master commander. :D
YU-HU-HU-HUS more third age!!! ; D
I'd would fight for Harad.
+I Am RUclips I'd means I would so my sentence is not gramatically correct.
#pixelated Apollo I'm buying a T~Shirt I can't resist
This channel is cool!
Love it!
awesome battle
YES THIRD AGE FINALLY!
+Pixelated Apollo what happend to your north vs south campaign? did it get deleated?
+Shawn Kevin it ended
+liam morgan-nolan yea but I cant even find it on his channel
+Shawn Kevin that's weird
+liam morgan-nolan ikr
I love your videos bro
Yeah that archer friendly fire really fucked him up
I have been looking for the last day of the Gettysburg battle but I cant find it. Was it made?
Believe the word he was looking for was volleys at about 9:00
please do more!
If the dwarfs had dragon slayers then why didn't they kill smaug
who will ever understand the dwarves? :P
becuse Smaug wasn't just a dragon , he was the most powerfull living dragon in the Third Age...and they had dragon slayers to fight the dragons that came from the North, wich are dragons or drakes much more smaller and less powerfull than Smaug...
+Knight of Annúminas yes but still in the movie smaug recked them
+Andre Ribeiro I guess they didn't expect to Smaug to come
+Andre Ribeiro Smaug attacked them randomly. most of the time when dwarves fought Dragons they were prepared, either a war or attacking a dragons nest. (I n the first age, the dwarves were the only race that could withstand some dragons breath and be able to kill them)
Smaug was basically a 1st age dragon, surprised them, also, most dragons at this point have died
12:54 Hold onto your butts! ah jeez!
Apollo when will there be another Rome 2 battle replay?
We need more medievel 2 sieges.
this video was made on my bird's birthday :)
What faction you gonna try first when warhammer comes out?
Do a catapult montage now!
do a battle with one choke point dwarves vs harad dwarves get small elite army harad gets waves of weak or ok units plz
+Ozer Harry so like the Battle of Thermopylae, but with dwarves?^^
Yeah didn't think about that lol
I fucking love third age total war :)
+pixelated apollo what is your name :D
would you see yourself as a general in medieval times?? would you have a good real life strategy
In medieval times, the general was actually the one leading the charge, and affected morale in ways that Total War doesn't represent
more battle for middle earth
Nice replay and commentary.
Don't you think that the dwarves' general made a bad use of his pikeman ?
I mean, he did not use them as a protective force against the ennemy cavalry which has done some damage to the dwarves first line, (slowing them and by this the ennemy get some nice kill and time) and crossbow too => Pikemans instead stayed in the back.
And once those guys engage the fight they've been raped by missiles units. In this battle they were pretty useless.
Dwarves have pretty nothing against cavalry, once you get units devoted for, why not using it ? I mean if they were so useless in the final siege against missile units, then why not positionning them in the flank of your crossbow or first line unit and make them progressing together. Use them as a defensive shield on flank ? Please let me know if i'm wrong and if there is a reason why the dwarven general did not do that. Thanks !
Peace !
I love this mod I wish there was a game
I was dancing when i saw this video
They should add a mod that enables troops to push down the ladders
That does make sense because like in lord of the rings the ladders would go down then come back up
+BlackbeardGaming But in the films when the ladders fell down they killed 100s of orcs. And I seriously doubt 2 or 3 men (all the room there is) are able to pull the super heavy ladders up.
***** Erhm that supports my argument.
***** No lol 4 humans pulling up a heavy ladder with 100s of orcs on. Its much easier to push not pull :).
***** Yes it obviously is. With pushing you do not have to pick up all that weight which would be practically impossible. Yeah changing the angle to make it farther away when its on the well yeah right. Because its impossible to pull a heavy ladder with troops on it.
Its called exaggerating for effect genius. 2 ppl can easily hold the ladder down then people get on the ladder then you can't pull it up and even if you do which is practically impossible you're pulling the enemies towards you. And? Its still would be worth killing hundreds of your enemies through the ladder squashing them and you can't even pull it up in the first place so...
tip use archers to flank
I would have kept like 2 hoperds back too defend those archers
hey Apollo great video but can u do 2 third age total war video's every week
finally some easterlings:)))))))))