Force-on-Force drills with REAL guns | Arex MTX
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Arex has developed MTX training ammunition that is designed to be safely used for force-on-force training. MTX training ammunition works in real firearms with small modification/upgrade that helps it cycle and eject normally but also it prevents accidental fire of real rounds with the system installed.
MTX ammo looks very similar to normal ammunition and is powered by a pyrotechnical primer. The projectiles consist of a plastic cup filled with colored paste that is non-toxic, a brass sealing ring and rubber butt for added mass.
MTX is very accurate, consistent and functions reliably in guns.
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This is by far the best training, because every other training lacks that real feeling of fear and risk of injury that is always lacking in those trainings.
But using an ammo that is high pain factor but no real injury really brings out all that comes with a firefight, thus the true colors of people's performance really shows and it's perfect because then you can TRULY train your mind for real scenarios
Not just that it hurts, but when you try it out and feel the recoil of the rifle, it terrifies you. The thing is that most of the gas energy goes into cycling the bolt but it feels like it's super powerful
The US has had MILES(Multiple integrated laser engagement system) since at least 1978
@@Splarkszter MILES is nothing like this.
@@hjjfffaa MILES is better they have the god laser pistol to kill cheaters.
@@Splarkszter miles doesnt represent real life bullet balistics and what is the god pistol that can kill cheater that youre saying in the end of the day its just a firearm with a blank and a laser there is no cheating in military scenario training if you want to destroy cheater use a paintball gun
Do this as a regular series. Tactical play-by-play and breakdowns are extremely crucial to teaching the general public on how to operate.
Oh you mean naive cowards who don’t have the balls to put their big boy pants on
They aren't operators dude...they aren't qualified to be teaching tactics. If you want that go over to UF Pro, Tactical Hyve, Orion Training Group, and there's one other that's slipping my mind but he only has one or two videos that talk about theory more than they actually demonstrate tactics.
As for stuff that isn't CQB, Garandthumb has some info, but there isn't a ton of verifiable info out there, but you can always read field manuals for yourself.
These guys don’t know cqb tactics. The general public don’t need to “operate”. Just shut the fuck up please
@@Osprey1994 But they have the equipment and a platform to demonstrate such things. They could even present their own learning experience, and it'd still be better than telling us all to go read a field manual.
@@lunchbox1553 no, it wouldn’t.
9:45 is my favorite moment, because it shows just how quickly your life can be over in urban combat. One mistake, one look around a corner, and you're dead.
We communicated that one of the guys was holding that side and i thought to myself - fuck it, one slow peak, aim and precise shot to take him out - but the guy had pre-aimed the corner and waiting for me. I got shot before i could even spot him as we has aiming between some trash
@@PolenarTactical pls make more force on force videos, they looks "funny"
@@PolenarTactical Must be scary to get hit right in the face mask with one of those without seeing the attacker.
@@AdoroBiscoff agreed, this is good to watch. its better than watching paintball, airsoft and miles.
@@alphawolfgang173 cuz hurt more, lmao
This is the way, those MTX sims look reasonably more reliable than most of the other sims on the market. Nice FoF breakdown, great learning tools to figure out what does and doesn't work and what needs heavy improvement. From this event, looks like more training with comms during RTC and casualty care & evac drills are needed for continuity. Good stuff!!!
Back in 2016 I used to hang out with an army vets that did some OPFOR exercises for several units. They always told me that whenever they had to pull out from a position into an adjacent building, they would always set up an ambush outside the building because specially the more specialized units would expect a CQB room clearing battle in the building and usually would be quite successful while more regular units would try to surround the area therefore rending their efforts less effective. When I watched this, it really reminded me of that and how I would potentially just stay outside the building because every one wants the stimulation of a room clearing battle and they paid for it.
Pay for forgiveness bitch. Malik is my son's name. Not, Mally Mouse, Rabat, Moose, Market The Blade, MALIK and you mfers are damn tyrants to us. Prior to becoming opened to this secret organization of "patriot pedophiles" not limited to the brutally seeking individuals, as well as, families which BTW thank the neighbors who make this hell possible anyways any store potentially was a problem for us. Problematic we dealt with. It was our problem. Fast forward to present now the problem isn't an us it's a y'all adults women men old young geriatrics, teens all the in-between even families with kids damn near hitting us trying to seek us to see, Malik in person and utilize their demonic tool they purchased to upset him. Imagine that another individual spending money staking your child to upset them and worse, the unbelievable truth pedophiles who entertain and obsess with brutally and children. Babies. Sin sick mfers how anyone could entertain such a conversation to lead to seeking obtaining a site and purchasing said equipment for the intended purpose is inhumane and intolerable. As a mother I had fears y'all give me nightmares. Kill us, give my son drugs to have him taken away directing him not to eat to also have him take away, burn our home, a car crash, cancer, covid, overdose, heart attack y'all wanna kill us bc y'alls world was placed in our RUclips by whoever close go us crossed the shit up n keep it so after I had my shit factory reset. We sought Lion King not y'alls evil shit. Animals attack not humans attacking...too strange and heartbreaking to watch. Oh let's not forget frame me. The truth will stand when the world's on fire n I'm standing on that n trusting God. Again seek his forgiveness not mine cause I'm a sinner,but most importantly that four yr old little boy is my life. He's my son n I love him enough to kill for him. Seek to make me look crazy, isolate n brk me down, attempt to make me upset and harm my own seed?? Y'all can not like me talk shit abt me, but what y'all can't do is brk me my faith n damn sure not my unconditional love for my son. Blk eye, clawed to hell busted lip my injury reserve ass is gna love him bandaged up n all. Know that. Now again how n why could yall do this to anyone let alone a child n 1 who already faced struggles let alone mine n be upset at me gn off on y'all publicly. If u didn't know now ya do coward ass demons he's mine n I'm not gn for him being mistreated or exploited in any shape form or fashion. Again he is mine n a child. He's innocent. If I wronged yall let me know if I truly did I would acknowledge it n Apologize. Dn my 4yr old son for sick purposes or ur distain for me as a person is the lowest bitch maneuver I've encountered in my life. Get at me I can handle it my baby has n yalls actions have hindered life greatly, but like his mama he's a survivor and does so gracefully after mfers old enough to know better and in roles of help at that have mistreated, covered anything but their role to him. I'm ranting in my emotions bc he is my son n we've encountered the devil n co more than once during this in different occupational settings so without being detailed it's personal n scary to a pt, but more so it's worth taking a life I didn't make when it comes to a mfer 13+ n my son gotta be y'all. 13+ is correct while in roses who BTW loves to announce "control tags" via the intercom when we enter, while we shop and as we lv there was a girl no 9lder than 14-15 pretending to look at blk hair products to attempt to obtain a pic. A damn baby teenager whom I would've adamantly protected vise versa aware to WHT extent idk but aware of my baby n self to the pt she sought a Pic. That's the evil u bitches breed. Children r apart of y'alls sin sick game maybe ur own at that idk God bless them n keep them n to hell with yall.
0:40 "You think this is gonna hurt?..!!!"
*pop*
AWWWWW FCKKKKKKKK!!!!
Taking a real one, homie.
0:38 "you think this is gonna hurt?"
Whenever we had training exercises with such ammunition in the military, we were all overjoyed. There is no better training than experience itself, and due to the nature of the profession, the risk of death is a basic factor. With this ammunition we had the opportunity to learn and experience situations that would've lead to our death. Always loved OPFOR and always will. Best form of training.
You have a picture of a paintball player...so you do understand that this is essentially the same thing? Both feel like ass, but saying being hit with a paintball prepares you for facing down someone who wants to kill you is bull. There are some people out there with incredibly high pain tolerance, for them getting hit by a sim (especially when geared up) is nothing. As for people with low pain tolerance, they won't want to get hit, but at the same time, they know from the outset that it's not like they are going to die. The biggest advantage is the ability to expose yourself to big shots of adrenaline repeatedly. The only thing it can't do is let you overcome the fear of death.
If you doubt me, then you can look up badge cam videos of officers losing their shit when confronted with a suspect who shoots at them for the first time. Even with FoF training under their belt, you will see officers get swept up in the adrenaline rush, or some just completely break down because the near brush with death was more than they could handle.
Not knocking the value of FoF training. But a lot of the value is in the ability to think clearly under the effects of adrenaline and the fact that you are working with weapons that similuate your duty weapons.
@@Osprey1994 I do play paintball as well. I've also served in an SF Unit in my country's armed forces as a conscript. I do understand your point fully and I do also agree with you. Sims/Paintballs feel like nothing when geared with the exception of some sensitive spots. I've done mainly CQB simulations and I've been hit in spots that actually hurt quite a lot due to the distance as well. Adrenaline is by FAR the best painkiller there is. I've gotten some serious adrenaline rushes while being in gunfights that literally made me feel like a Tank. Adrenaline though has some levels. When being shot Adrenaline levels rise. After the end of a gunfight they decrease gradually. That's what I've noticed. Losing your shit in the field is basically just the lack of experience, competence and psycological strength. I've seen it and it happened to me as well the first times.
That being said, I was pointing out that sims are the closes we could get to real conditions in terms of training.
The breakdown was super cool. More videos like this with different scenarios would be fantastic. A "rescue mission" simulation where you have to protect a dummy or unarmed person would interesting as well.
Thank you
Yes, we are already talking about doing a proper full on scenario with more people playing roles
@@PolenarTactical would be awesome to be in. You guys and gal are awesome. 💪🔥😃
id also like to see one where "militia" are patrolling their neighborhood from out of town threats.
Man is a G when dummy or unarmed person are synonymous. Respect.
I would freaking LOVE to see videos where some of the biggest Self Defense/Survival/Tactical Combat RUclipsrs such as Field Craft Survival's Mike Glover, Pat Mac, Warrior Poet John Lovell, Garand Thumb, T-Rex Arms Lucus Botkin, GBRS, and even Donut Operator Just to name a few, Getting together and going head to head in Team and single-man CQB FonF Training with this training tool. So Awesome. I can't get enough of this.
Now, this is what many wish Airsoft could be.
Isn't the effective distance on these things less than bbs?
@@ossihurme7572 accuracy of Simunition FX ammo was truly not satisfying, but this might be different. FX was effective in a maximum range of 25-30 meters, while a well-built AS gun has its twice as an AEG. The recoil, sound and mag capacity makes it useful and interestinf experience.
@@erikkoszas2562 you get those things from gas powered airsoft guns too. But of course the recoil isn't usually as powerful. But that depends how modded the recoil system is on your GBBR and what real gun you are comparing it to.
@@ossihurme7572 A quick look and I can't find solid numbers for the accuracy on this MT-X product. It markets itself on its website as being more accurate than Simunition, though.
@@erikkoszas2562 No, they fly to 150 meters effectively, i've had them and tested it on my friend and myself (my friend shot me) it was hella painful.
Wow guys, awesome video!! Those special traing-ammo are absolutely great, a new level of realism.
Thanks
It's not new, Simunition / FX rounds have been around for ages.
@@Vanalos yes, but the difference is that MTX actually works reliably :D
0:32 saw this gem on a meme comp video. Good on you guys for keeping the comedy alive and well.
While there are a lot of comments from people saying things like "this isn't real enough," "it's not like a real firefight," "there is no fear of pain," nothing can compare to a real gun fight," etc, I think this was an excellent video and while I agree it's not like a real firefight, it's definitely one of the best training solutions out there and would take this training over regular range training or FoF with paper targets any day of the week.
Please make more videos like this as they're a great way for people to learn and see other forms of training. Thanks so much for the great content!
korea army and korean cops need it this system . thank you for introduce this one. you guys should share all of the world
Really enjoyed the breakdown. I appreciate you showing and explaining both the mistakes and successes.
Thank you
The fear of getting shot because of the pain is a great training stress factor. Now imagine the fear of getting actually shot and you can dig into the mindset of why some are so quick to respond with force.
It still isn't the same. You can't get around the fact that this is essentially loud paintball. Does it hurt? Yes. Will it hurt like a bitch if you get hit somewhere without protection and where there isn't a ton of soft tissue...100%. I remember getting hit in paintball up close on the hip bone, popped all the blood vessles, turned into a disgusting black/blue/green lump. But once you get over the initial adrenaline rush it gets easier and easier to dive back in. Climbing over the hurdle that is the thought of death, that's something nobody knows if they can manage until faced with it.
@@Osprey1994 Of course it's not the damned same as getting shot, but it's closer than any other training available to the civilian market, so we should be happy of improvements. It's better than shouting BANG at each other or using airsoft bbs.
Have used both simution training ammo and a laser system in my time in the service - and I find they both work, but in different scenarios. The sim ammo works really well in close quarter and the pain involvced with getting hit really does make you evaluate your movements, concealment, etc. moving forward. I know this is a traning tool - but where I did find it lacking, was in scenarios on a 'larger' scale. I know that this is not something you are likely encounter outside military service, but we trained regularly in a town build for fibua-mout - meaning a mix of both cqb and then the longer distances involved when moving through open urban areas having to cover windows in multi-story buildings, rooftops and so on. In that scenario it does have some limitations, but for cqb drills it is indeed an excellent training tool. And yes it hurts, and leaves a substanstial mark... especially if you are hit in the face....
cant wait til someone in the USA (preferably in the southeast) buys a bunch of these BCG's and set up a training facility like this where you bring your own gear.... i would love to try this
Sounds like a good business opportunity...
Liability would be insane and while it would be cool, that is probably the reason simunition does not sell to the general public.
Man they literally have 48 hour milsim events all over the country. Me and another former marine friend of mine play airsoft and there’s a bunch of other former military that play at the same field. We usually mop the floor with everybody but every once in a while they’ll get us. My friend is a contractor now and uses it to stay frosty when he’s not on a job. There’s stuff out there. There’s also tons of companies that teach classes.
@@daquetreed5522 airsoft requires ppl call their hits and I've not seen any milsim events in the southeast. This is paintballing but using your own gear. Just wish they sold to the public or had facilities like this available in my area.
@@RichardCranium321 it doesn’t matter, you can still apply the concepts whether people cheat or not. Me and Nick took an elevated position one game and you had two former Marines literally control the battlefield like it was Benghazi. The reality is the likelihood of any of us civilians (myself as a former Marine included) engaging in a real life firefight like this is slim to none despite all the fear mongering all over RUclips today. It’s just not gonna happen and these guys are making a killing off of clicks, views, and sponsorships. But at the same time, those guys we play airsoft are the types we would be the ones we would be battling it out with; people with little to no training that at times can be harder to predict. I guarantee, you get out there and play one game and you’re gonna be hooked. I’ve been out of the military since 07’ and discovered it about a year ago. My only regret is I didn’t years ago. My only caveat: I airsoft rifles that cost as much as my real rifles. Once you start buying shit you get hooked lol
This guy speaks about some real stuff that actually effects people in combat
0:35
You think this gonna hurt
5 secs later
Oooo Aeěghhhhhh
100% the best commercial advertisement I’ve ever seen. Really cool way to show off a cool product.
This video was fire continue the good job guys greetings from Greece🇬🇷
When I was on active duty, got to dig one of these out of my joes earlobe as we were doing force on force. Life of a medic.
Used these a lot in military training, love and hate them, still have red paint in my plate carrier.
But where do you respawn? Those rounds *DO* sting like a thousand angry bees! Force-on-force is the best method of training. Our brains remember pain of any kind *way* more easily than just doing the same drills over and over with no physiological input.....i.e MTX rounds!! Great video as always guys!
Thank you
We had so much fun with this system that we are already planning new training :)
@@PolenarTactical Just as long as your sharing the vids with us 😁👍🏽
You guys just playing Team Deathmatch like it was COD or something is hilarious. Amazing video, fun to watch all the way through, and I learned a few things!
You guys are awesome, there's a lot that can be taken from this vid, rights, wrongs, ways to change tactics.. thanks and keep up the good work...
Thanks for watching!
We are planning to do more videos on this topic
0:35
"Do you think this is gonna hurt?"
*pew*
*AAAAAAW FUU-*
@01:40 there's always that Slav guy who gets the job done with ease. 😂👍
This is pretty awesome.
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Sweet video! I really like these F on F breakdowns. Def more brain poking than static ranges
Really cool with the commentary! Appreciate the emphasis on learning.
Thanks
Yeah, we figured that this video would be boring without the commentary
Looks pretty cool, nice video.
Please note, that a ballistic shield is most usually only rated for pistol rounds and might not stop rifle rounds.
Pretty sure they make 7.62 and 5.56 IIIa+ special threat shields now, though the majority are pistol rated
@@jackkelly4870 They definitely do make shields that will take a stout rifle cartridge, but I'd question how many of those impacts it'd take before deformity got the best of it.
Probably they will have a front side that expands out in a V shape with the backside being flat.
(Think of a wide pentagonal base that is shaped like a house, the outer extents of the shield being flanged)
They will also get ever so slightly thicker. Likely will be up to one to one half inch thick in some places.
Of course, it might become very unwieldy though.
Best training advancement ever. We used Simmunitions for years. Great training!!
For training this is way better than anything in my opinion because it lets you train reloads and malfunctions weather it’s feed problem or ejection problem anything that happens in real world this replicates perfect just no death at the end
The unexpected change of scenario was a great show of just how quickly and unexpectedly things can change.
Why am I imaging the future where the soldiers are becoming far more efficient thanks to this?
Used these allot in the Marines, Was honestly a ton of fun every time we got to use it. HURTS WAY MORE THAN PAINTBALLS.
I'd love to see this sort of thing become the adult version of airsoft. The fear of actual pain and use of real steel would encourage realistic tactics and teamwork.
A couple of notes guys; I feel like the ballistic shield is a great tool if you know the enemy has no explosive or way to deal with you other than rifles, but I feel if explosives such as grenades and IEDs were in play it'd be a huge, huge liability for combat spacing??
Also; on the airsoft note, some guns do have the ability to malfunction like that, mainly gas guns. So while yeah, most electric guns do not have blowback, gas guns do and you can replicate the exact malfunction that was shown. Great video guys, loved it!
If you are dealing with IEDs and barricaded terrorists, you don't do CQB, you call in an airstrike or artilery
@@PolenarTactical No need to worry about terrorist's if they're just red stains.
@@PolenarTactical Amen
@Reimu Hakirei touhou
This is an excellent use and display of the MTX training ammunition.
“Guys it’s clear, let’s go” …drops cigarette…expert lvl
1:35 that flash bounced so nice XD that was lucky
indeed it was 😅
Man y’all’s vids are just the best, thanks to y’all’s whole team for putting these out.
That looks like lots of fun. And good training.
By far this is the most realistic training I have ever seen, as it also shows how to continue fighting when you're injured
these are kids , dont be stupid
@@9tz768 Uh, you have something better?
Not like I'm gonna disrespect you but going around and saying bad things about other people isn't nice
The most realistic airsoft entertaining tools
0:00 - 0:11 so that’s the “FBI open up” reboot?!
0:37
You think this is going to hurt😂😂😂
now this is better airsoft (with more pain, and realism)
This needs to be a series.
3:59 Me and the boys clearing an area ignoring our surroundings
Another cool vídeo from Polenar Tactical, keep doing this excellent work, meu apoio direto do Brasil, um grande abraço.
Obrigado
@@PolenarTactical as i can see you understand a little bit of Portuguese.
"Guy's, it's clear. Let's go!" Super Samo
This dude in 1:45 is Killa from Escape from Tarkov. He doesn't give a damn, rushes in and annihilates everything in the room 😆
I love this channel
We love you too ❤
famous last words made this video solid
Dude, now I can finaly play airsoft with my real fire arm.thanks God!
So it's like the child of paintball and airsoft?
Hell yeah, I hope this can be another genre of a milsim that civilians can buy and play.
Hope to see more of these and more of this ammo.
Now, this is my kind of "Airsoft." With this Arex, if you were hit there's NO dispute over it. You really know it.
Did this type of training while in the Army. Used our M4s, switched out the BCG and used simmunation rounds.
Simunition training is the best way to train force-on-force. I used to participate in Urban Shield games in Kalifornia. Until they switched to laser tag.
I wish, that other farms and farmers in this country would turn over parts of their land for this kind of project. I think this is fantastic, but I’m not as sure that this is anywhere near as big as it should or could be elsewhere across the country.
Shame Clarksons farm couldn’t have been more along this line…
Amazing effort Kempy👍👍
4:38 the camera man almost got it😂😂
"You think this is gunna hurt?"
*famous last words*
"yOU tHiNK ThIS iS GonNA HuRT" AAAAAUUUUUUHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
1:43 the cigarette thrown into the dry forest, thumbs up 🙂
Bonus points for the pink rifle sling! 😂
Wow! Didnt know that this kind of ammo exists! Please more!
We used SESAM rounds in the Marine Corps. It’s basically a 9mm round with a paintball tip. The upper receiver is switched out to accommodate for the rounds.
@@jeffreyheil9542how does that work? Would it injure the person who’s getting shot??
@@Novalmfao when a round is fired the casing is extracted and the bullet is what leaves the weapon. In this case instead of a bullet it’s a paint ball. We usually wear a face mask to protect from the paintball. Our uniforms prevent it from hurting that much. However, it can break skin if any skin is exposed. It’ll sting for a moment, but it will not seriously injure or kill you.
Airsoft had it it's moment. This is the future.
The fact that you can use real guns.
Amazing, so many interesting points to pick up in one video.
Glad you think so! We just uploaded the second part :)
I remember using sim rounds when I was a young grunt in the army. Fun times. It does teach you better than just using blanks or miles gear.
Paintball is getting more realistic🤣🤣
Omg so love! Do this with real bullets next!
I don't subscribe much and I LOVE this video. Perhaps have stationary cameras so the camera man doesnt give away positions. You sir get a sub!
sheeeesh this looks fun for training ofcourse
1:45, that is the most half-baked Nikita reference I've ever seen. lmfao
this is TOO COOL. I need this
that is just like magfed paintball with first strike rounds
Im going to buy this and use it on an actual airsoft game 😈
Looks amazing! I hope the US civilian market will eventually use something like this in a Milsim west style event.
this is such a god video. i have no interest in the subject but i thoroughly enjoyed this. excellent work.
I did a training with FX glocks once, its really something very valuable. Can recommend it to anyone. Can't wait to do it again 😅
Great video guys!
i've used those FBG-6's featured here before multiple times, love them. best simulation bangers i've used
Man…could you imagine if this was commercialized as a sport?
*SOLIDE!!!! i like this!!!*
This is so sick !
The scenario was so realistic, that even the SCAR suffered a malfunction:D
Those rounds look like they are similar to Simunition training rounds, and yes I still have the scars from the .223 Simunitions
I recognize quite a lot of UF pro gear. Represent
Great experience. Thanks for posting.
Those rounds sounded spicy
I hope this becomes a common sport
"you think this is gonna hurt?" yes. yes I do. 0:39.
The best thing they ever did with the new SCAR rifles is getting rid of the reciprocating charging handle.
So instead of paintball arena’s we can have arena’s with this 😀😎
Lmao we did this as a marine. So rare to actually do this as training for an infantryman but had so much. Learned a lot from it
this looks so fun.