PREDATOR - WTF Happened to This Movie?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Hollywood has had its fair share of historically troubled productions. Whether it was casting changes, actor deaths, fired directors, in-production rewrites, constant delays, budget cuts, or studio edits, these films had every intention to be a blockbuster but were beset with unforeseen disasters. Sometimes huge hits, sometimes box office bombs.
In this episode, we look at a HUGE hit, in fact, it's a movie I'd wager has become one of the defining action movies of its era - PREDATOR. Sporting an iconic cast led by Arnold Schwarzenegger, we dig deep into this action classic directed by John McTiernan, which turned out great but was often a hellish shoot, complete with competing co-stars, a terrible first attempt at a Predator suit, and even a young Jean-Claude Van Damme! So let's dig in and see WTF Happened to PREDATOR!
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The predator is one of those movies no matter if I've seen it a hundred times if it's on TV I'll watch it
No other movie comes close to the OG Predator. For me its still the gold standard
It's Predator not The Predator. Big difference. The Predator is the biggest pile of garbage while Predator is an all time classic.
yes.
Yep. Like Terminator 2.
Monster ass lookin alien machine guns infared human targets with Commando & Apollo Creed leading it off u cant lose especially when Creed & Commando lock arms in the beginning fukn epic scene baby and thats with NO CGI people
Wtf happened to this movie? It became a classic. Now if you asked wtf happened to the franchise, now that's a different conversation.
Very true 💯
I loke avp
Amen brother
Agree
The title is a bit misleading..they should rename it to "WTF happened during the making of this movie?" Because I've seen this on my Feed a couple of times but never watched it because I thought it was going to be a negative review
I've only watched Predator about 100+ times.
That's all? You must be a youngn'. I watch it that often in a year. 'Course, you more than likely have a life where as I, obviously, don't.
I watched it at the cinema, I was only 14 yrs old at the time. But my friends older friends caused a disturbance & I got in (I had a ticket) 😄
I watch every time it comes on 😁.
@@sheiladaniels364 yeah same . Its my favourite film ever . Its more 80s than the 80s . Plus I own an original clip of the film reel
Me too bro...
Predator is one of the best movies ever made.
EVER!!!!!!
Agreed
I like it too, so much!
my sentiment exactly...and thats an objective point of view...what a film...vhs cassette 1988 never forget it...best movie/film experience of it time imo
not so much, unless you find the fast and furious franchise as great cinema too. dont get me wrong it is a fun movie, but one of the best movies ever made? no fucking way
Such a great movie. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Carl Weathers, Bill Duke, Jesse Ventura, great cast, excellent directing by McTiernan. Original score, action, costumes, big guns, great action movie and stands the test of time.
The music is fantastic! I liked Predator 2 but why wasn't there a Predator 3 going back to Dutch as an older grizzly man suffering with PTSD which he overcomes by another encounter with a Predator would have been awesome. The other films were sooo bad.
@@jdogg448 Absolutely, great score by Alan Silvestri. I agree, an older Dutch coming back for a third one would have been very cool, Schwarzenegger would have nailed it I imagine.
Agreed, and maybe not just for it's smartly put-together cast, but also because the idea of the plot was something very different by crossing over three genres (body-building elite military personnel, sci-fi, and unapologetic/unorthodox violence). And then there's the idea that movies of that time didn't NEED to be perfect, they just needed a good premise. Predator delivered.
@@Fister_of_Muppets Well said. That's good point also, what they did for its time 1987. Good premise, very well executed, and doesn't feel dated at all.
It's a comic-book brought to life. The colorful characters, exaggerated action-scenes and sci-fi monster were done perfectly, while other films are complete "marks" with taking it seriously. It could be a Sgt. Fury comic.
One of the greatest films ever made. Arnold Schwarzenegger best performances on screen and the director made a movie that aged only better over time.
He was great in this movie. But I think terminator 1 is a better performance. He was terrifying
He was at his absolute prime in this film.
Arnold's acting in this movie is underrated. Predator, I think, is the first movie where Arnold looked very vulnerable. He usually comes on top in his other movies.
In Predator, you know he only has a slim chance of fighting back on first watching.
Can't believe I watched movies like Aliens, Die Hard, Predator, and Robocop when I was like 8 yrs old. lol
Same. Best childhood ever
It was a simpler time.
Same here.
Sadly I thought things could only get better, boy was I wrong!
I'll buy that for a dollar
We’ll never get movies like this again. Where are the Terminators, Die Hards, Predators, Lethal Weapons? Nowhere to be found and never happening again.
Agreed. It's sad that they remake every movie now. Nothing is new and original now and days.
Too politically correct and woke.
You're right when you say we'll never have films like this again,sadly.
terminator 1 and 2, and aliens were definitely woke, at least in the sense of having a strong female lead in action films, who were not overly sexualized or subordinated to male interests. that said, vasquez in brownface was lamentable.
@@kage-fm Woke doesn't mean no strong female characters
Yeah, now they have womyn starring and beating those bad ole men...
You cant make better sci-fi action movie then predator, terminator 2 or aliens. Just impossible
yes we can
too bad studios r too afraid of new ideas
Damn right sir!
Predator and Aliens are damn near perfect films.
@@southlondon86 x can come
How about The Matrix?
The only movie you have watched a 100 times and will continue watching again and again. That's how great it was.
Predator 2 is extremely underrated. Predators is actually pretty good. And AVP would have been great if it wasn't pg-13. Predator and aliens movie need to ALWAYS be a hard R rating.
Indeed - P2 was great movie on its own right and terrific sequel.
@RogerwilcoFoxtrot that would have been incredible. You have proven that fans really do have better ideas then majority of Hollywood
The novel P2 was based on had Danny Glover's character as Dutch's even more ripped brother - Glover was a much better choice.
@ I liked how the predators ships were invisible in the p2 comic
perhaps but as far as monster sequels go it's not even in the rear view mirror of Aliens
We got Predator cause of Rocky 4!!?!?!?!?? Stallone is the gift that keeps on giving!
@@southlondon86 which book?
Seeing Jean Claude Van Dam is the lobster suit in full view would've been hilarious.
Youcan see him in the beginning where she dragged the body into the jungle... she is cloaked tho, just look at the hand
Miran Games - she?
I've seen your mom in that suit a few times ,and it wasn't that funny .
#releasetheVanDamCut
Jean Claude van Clam!
I’d say most of these problems worked out for the best. The Predator design is so iconic. I’d imagine this movie wouldn’t be nearly as fondly remembered if they had stuck with that first creature design.
The creature design of Predator along with other aliens in the Alien- Predator Universe has no match...scary, life-like yet beautiful
You forgot to mention how great the score is in this movie from Alan Silvestri.
Only topped by his score for Predator 2.
Me and my brother went to go see this movie several times. When I joined the US Army I purposely made sure I was assigned an m203 and I became an expert at it. Although I found out the m203 works differently than what I saw on the Predator. But I still love that weapon.
i had an m203 in the army to in greece have like 20 shots with it in training i also had a m249 minimi great wepon fired more than 1000 rounds with it also fired an m16 a2 and an m4
I had to hump the m203 myself in Afghanistan.
Sure doesn’t look the movies when it goes off but still effective af
Also, I remember Jesse Ventura saying in an interview that "I ain't got time to bleed." almost didn't make it through the cutting room floor, but they kept it in the final cut.
Two of the actors in this movie became governors
@wise johnny who?
@wise johnny sonny landham
If I remember right Landham ran for Governor of Kentucky a few years ago, but did not win.
Arnold (California) & Jesse Ventura (Minnesota).
Well ain't you clever ehh?
Go and reward yaself with a biscuit
"Stick Around." - Dutch (Schwarzenegger on impaling an enemy soldier creeping up behind him.)
It's amazing to imagine that Predator started life as a joke on Stallone's Rocky who had vanquished all human opponents and would probably need to slug it with an alien in the next entry.
Do you know the story of "Digi Digi Hole" ? :D
The critics on this film prove never listen to critics lol
They're always wrong. They shat on Dawn Of The Dead, they shat on Blade Runner, they shat on They Live, they shat on Day Of The Dead, they shat on The Thing, they shat on Predator, they shat on Big Trouble In Little China, they shat on Evil Dead, they shat on Nightmare On Elm Street and many more classic movies. Critics are a determinent to the filmmaking industry and they have never been relevant and they have never mattered. All film critics are pompous, ignorant, self-absorbed, clueless pieces of shit who think they are worth more to society than they ever are or have been. They're one of the most useless jobs on the face of the earth.
@@the-NightStar "They're always wrong"
The problem with most critics is that they consume a lot more cinema than your normal audience member by at least one order of magnitude. Now take Hollywood's tendency to jump on trends without understanding them (Cinematic Universes, anyone?) and you end up with a lot of mediocre similar movies. Any normal person is going to get tired of eating the same thing over and over again. And what results is that critics develop movie tastes that tend to deviate from the mainstream public. Yet, by reason of their job description, they are forced to give their opinion on media they feel they've seen before.
One of the best, classic, MAN-MOVIES EVEEEERRRRR made ... that's what happened to it.
Yep! The first half of this film is an action movie. The 2nd half of this movie is a horror film. Forever a CLASSIC!!
“ Gonna have me some fun!”- Bill Duke
Saw a lengthy interview with him a while back.
Interesting guy, and always happy to see him get some screen time, even in a small part.
The moment when Arnie clearly see's his enemy - then immediately plans to bring down the Predator using his extensive military fighting skills - moves this great film into a masterpiece .
“He couldn’t see me”
11:07, RIP, Kevin Peter Hall, 1955-1991.
RIP, Stan Winston, 1946-2008.
Sonny Landham; Born: February 11, 1941; Canton, Georgia, US
Died: August 17, 2017 (aged 76); Lexington, K...
@Earl The Pearl yeah from a blood transfusion
More like wtf happened to this franchise after this masterpiece? Everything else outside of 2 is complete garbage.
it was garbage too, "predators" was good though
@@onurhayr1937 I liked "Predators" too, I thought Adrien Brody did a surprisingly good job.
I'd argue that "Predators" is actually better than Predator 2. I never liked the idea of the creature making its way to the city.
Fizz Brew I actually liked the 3rd movie more than the 2nd
@@tyrannapusandfriends6254 what did you enjoy about the 3rd one brother?
15:58, Roger Ebert called "A fast paced action thriller film that keeps you guessing at the very end."
One of the all time favourites. Predator will be remembered by fans forever. Eternal gem 😊🥰
still love this movie....wouldn't change a thing
Agree
The idea of introducing the minigun (used as man-portable weapon) probably added also a lot of hype to the movie!
“If this video bleeds, we can kill it” - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Stick around!
Note to self, Do NOT have a period.
BENNETT!
the 'official story' that i read years ago about why Van Damme eventually left was that he got the offer in the midst of production to finally show off his kickboxing skill in Bloodsport.
great video dude !!! wow.... and that is why i dont listen to critics and youtubers. The movie is a classic.
@@danielduncan6806 yes, there is a truth about that. Which is something we have lost today with on demand. The randomness of cable tv and watching what is on air. And we can go philosophical about the privilege of choosing.
I loved Predator. The tension, the atmosphere. The predator. Everything was amazing. It may have taken some time to take on steam, but it's worth it. Predator 2 was great too, though some stuff just didn't feel right. I hated the voodoo nonsense, for example. The ending however was absolutely legendary and still worth loads of applause. I was surprised there never was a real Predator III. AvP was okay in it's own, but it missed certain 'atmosphere', and by that, it was just 'floating' somewhere. AVP2 was just not worth even the thought, and is one of the movies that should be erased from history. Now for Predators, i actually REALLY liked that movie. Yes it kinda ripped off on the original, but still, it felt done pretty solid, including beating the preds. I still feel really uncomfortable watching the scene were the 'serial killer' got his spine and skull ripped out. that was gore disgusting to the chills and graphic. As for 'The Predator' by shane black, i HATED the movie. It was STUPID in every sense, it had no tense, it made no sense, and absolutely trashed a franchise and movie that SHOULD and COULD have been a great return.
Don't forget the music!
It’s more of a wtf happened with all the terrible sequels.
#2 wasn’t terrible, but the “wtf is this thing” feeling gets lost after the predator is a well established character.
I saw both at the theater. I remember thinking , at the time, that Predator 2 was by far the most violent movie I had ever seen.
I don't even think Predator 2 and Predators were that bad. I enjoyed those.
@JapaneseGiant Lizard1234 bruh that's just Predator.
Yeah, the effect of the mystery/reveal only really works for the first one. Not all movies need to be franchised!
@@andygalligan4184 there's not even a mystery.
Something's out there. And it ain't no man.
We're all gonna die!
over hear....
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Clicking noises coming from the trees
"Truth drop"
It’s Caitlyn jenner!!
Let's not forget that this movie almost stared 3 different governors.
who are they
@@HacksignKT Arnold, jessie and billy landham ran for office but didnt win.
@@joelpalmer3002 ty chief
Wish there was still movie like this. Movies with ballz
Modern day movies are too safe - PC crap to offend no-one !
The first action flic I saw. I was 9. My father loved that movie. We would watch it together.
Nice vid!
@Mike Knight 41, you were close 😄
"The reason everyone is so ripped is that Arnold had a gym set up in the hotel ballroom"...That, and all the steroids at the craft service table
So how comes the steroids didn’t work on Shane Black or Bill Duke?
@@southlondon86 steroids are funny like that.
Plus most of the gains are off of actual micro nutrients an the amount of testosterone needed to get jacked is surprisingly low
Couple of fun facts about movie shooting :
Before it was even shoot , every actor had to go to the boot camp, expect the Jesse Ventura who was a Navy Frogman aka Navy Seal. The whole cast was falling from exhaustion down in Mexico, but not Jesse who got used to this kind of climate in Vitenam. You know you are a certified badass when you have more combat experience than weapon instructor.
Here is another one from Jesse Ventura himself :
Jesse in his interview mentioned that he loved to play mindgames with Arnold by showing up 10 mins before him in the gym, and Jesse would just damp his t-shirt in the water so It would look like he was there from 5AM. When Arnold saw Jesse before him in the gym, he started getting up at 4:30AM.
I heard about that to. I also heard some cast would only eat canned food from home.
Great job, as always! Would you guys consider a "WTF Happened to John McTiernan" episode? The man's influence on action cinema is immense and events in his life off camera are compelling and worth exploring.
The definitive action movie. Not a line of wasted dialogue or a moment of wasted time. And great characters.
JCVD was fired, but some of the shots filmed with him, are in the movie.
I think he left in a strop
show me one shot he was in
@@Mr508films there is one still online, no footage though
@@Mr508films 8:29 This shot (or different take of this shot) is in the film. It is unlikely they would be reshooting this scene at exact same place but with different actor, when they only needed shot of cloaked predator.
Therefore he should be respected.
The stuntman broke his legs just as Jean C V Dam said it will happen ..
Nothing.33 years later still stands tall among all that mediocrity.
Come on. This was good, but there were better movies later: Terminator 2. Heat. Some Nolan's movies.
11:04 another important factor that definitely lead to JCVD's firing, is he tried to get fired on purpose. He secretly signed a 3 picture deal with Cannon Films during the filming of Predator.
Despite all of it's filming issues, Predator is still one of the best action movies EVER MADE! Not just from the 80's.
In my opinion, Predator and Predators are the best movies in the franchise. Adrien Brody did a surprisingly excellent job in the lead role, despite not really being an action star, or being very muscular.
I could never get into Predator 2, because we're supposed to believe that Danny "I'm getting too old for this shit" Glover could kill a Predator. He could barely even run in the movie, so no way in hell could he kill a predator. He should never have been cast in that role.
The Alien Vs Predator movies are okay. Not horrible like some people say, but not great either. AVP is the better movie, although Requiem has the best xenomorph design from the series. The Predalien was awesome! These movies make no sense now though, since Fox shit all over both franchises with the dumbass direction they took in Prometheus. Fox were horrible at making movies that were consistent to each other, as also proven with the X-Men movies. Thank God Disney bought out Fox before they could make the next Alien movie explaining that they can timetravel, and that's why whey were created around 2104 but were bred & hunted by Predators in the time of the Eqyptians...
Finally, we come to the Predator... this should have been a great movie, but it's not. I didn't really care for the lead, and I don't really like Olivia Munn, although I'll admit that she did a great job in the role. But the story is really, really dumb. I don't want to nitpick it, so I'll just say that it makes very little sense, and things just happen, without there being an actual reason why they happen.
While I can understand why Arnold hasn't wanted to return in the later Predator movies, he's been in every Terminator movie, and they've all been... disappointing... after Terminator 2, so it doesn't make much sense he'll be in all the shitty Terminator movies, but not the shitty Predator movies. Making Predator must have just been a worse experience for him than he will admit, I guess.
From what I’ve heard, Van Damme intentionally got himself fired because Bloodsport FINALLY got green lit after years of trying. But his Predator schedule meant he couldn’t take the role of Dux, so he got himself fired from this so he could do Bloodsport. And he was right because it launched his own career.
Predator 3 should be the easiest script ever written...
some kind of secret government organization is trying to kill and/or capture a predator specimen with Dutch and Harrigan advising the team that eventually tries to do it.
But no...directors and studios in their infinite wisdom always want to put their...”personal touch”....so they destroyed the franchise.
Same with Alien
Read somewhere that in one version of the final reveal in "The Predator" would have been.... incoming spoiler
Dutch is the "Predator Hunter"
The end result was my favorite movie of all time.
I cant wait for all the GET TO DA CHOPPA jokes
Me too ,😆🤣😎🐼
Watch killing Gunther.... you’ll appreciate the end fight scene
"I AIN'T GOT TIME TO BLEED !" that line gets me every time :D
So sad that Shane Black then gave us The Predator.
@Steve Whiting
What will happen now that Disney own Alien and Predator?
@@anubusx predators welding Lightsabers! Id pay to see that movie 😄
"Me too, mine's as big as a house!"
Big As a house.
haha
i've always loved this movie an always will felt bad for the cast for their hardships but then without it we wouldn't have had such a great film for generations to enjoy.
I can't help to wonder, still after all these years. What happened to John McTiernan? I mean He was one of the best if not the best action directors of his time.
Went to jail bruh
@@southlondon86 Yeah. You are right and I deffienitely should google this stuff out more.
You cannot beat the 1980's for horror and action films. Spent a lot of time in theaters during my Navy days.👍
Definitely make a WTF Happened to this Movie for The Predator(2018). Apparently the original script was a lot different and they also reshot the climax. There's a lot to unpack with that movie.
Yeah, was kind of let down with that version
@@leogetz3570 thought we'd be in good hands with Shane Black
One of the best Christmas buddy comedies ever!
Such a great movie. I like the extra Rocky IV connection in Carl Weathers' character dying to the technologically superior foe before being avenged by the protagonist.
If this film is not in your top 3 you're probably someone I would never care to meet.
Terminator 2 should be in top 3.
Did anyone else see killing Gunther?
The end fight is a hilarious homage to Predator... laughed so hard, i had tears in my eyes...
10as of millions of dollars for the movie, Couldn't buy proper water filters or food lol
The best Arnie movie and the only challenger to Die Hard
'I ain't got time to bleed'... 'you got time to duck'???
Quack!
Man, it’s dialogue like this that made a movie a movie
@@estellemelodimitchell8259 when I saw your comment notification I already knew what quote it was. Although sexual tyrannosaurus does come in a close second. Then there's the classic, get to the choppah!
A bona fide CLASSIC. What a movie.
“Stick around.”
ABSOLUTETLY 1 OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITES EVER !!!!
One of my all-time favorite films. And...another great JoBlo video. :-)
allthingsclassicrock
One of the few films I never grow tired of. Between owning it on VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray, and seeing it on cable I couldn’t begin to count the number of times of I’ve watched it.
Jesse Ventura, still a badass ❤
He was a porn star in the 70s.
One of the few praising critics back then was good old Roger Ebert. One time again he understood the material.
God this movie is just a diamond
Nothing happened to this movie other than it aging like the finest wine from France... This movie should be held as the standard for how make a kick ass action movie.
Watching these Joblo WTF videos will turn you into a sexual tyrannosaurus.
Lol, good one. Some great lines in this movie.
Like me
Shove that up uour sore ass ! - a nice comeback line.
A "God-damned sexual Tyrannosaurus" I believe. ;)
Thanks for this great video. Now I know why Arnold had all of his food and water imported from the US while filming "Total Recall", which was also done in Mexico.
They should remaster this Movie.
Got this on vhs, udm, dvd, bluray and 3d bluray. (Still want the laserdisk). Can watch it with joy now and tomorrow again
Easily the greatest movie ever made
This movie is a timeless masterpiece. Never gets old. Way too advanced for it's time!
Thanks for this video, it is very well documented.
Yeessss! I had a feeling that you were going to tackle this movie.
Soundtrack was also incredible
One of my favourite films of all time :-)
I don't know how you can do an analysis of this movie without talking about the soundtrack. Which is fucking amazing....
All-time favorite movie when growing up & still is👍. Commandos pretty close though 😉
Kevin was the perfect Predator. I love how gracefully he moved, especially is hands and fingers when doing certain actions. After Predator 2, the guys in the suits lost that gracefulness.
I've been waiting for this for a while now. This is my number one Arnold Schwarzenegger movie! Next time do a video on JURASSIC PARK 3 on WTF HAPPENED TO THIS MOVIE?
Awww I feel bad for Van Dam. I mean of course he was unhappy, it sounds like a nightmare without even getting any recognition. The stunt double breaking his leg is a pretty good indicator that he was pushed way too far.
I'd say the same thing that happened to the Terminator Franchise happened to this franchise. 1st and 2nd terminators were amazing but anything from the 3rd on was really bad, and the same thing happened to Predator with the exception of only the first movie was amazing, from the second one on the franchise kept downgrading. It does not have much to do with this video but I just laid it here.
It was 1988 and I was 8yrs old. My family were staying at a camp site with a bar and a recreation room, pool table, arcades and a TV. The adults were in the bar while the kids were in the rec room. On the TV was Predator. I watched the movie in awe and after I said to my Dad "I want to go in the Army." To which he replied "No you don't." He was right but that was the day I began my obsession with all things Predator and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Greatest action flick of the generation. Never really put much thought into it until I was older that the camp site was happy to show 18 rated movies on VHS to a room full of kids. Pretty sure I saw Rambo 2 for the first time in that room on a different visit. One of the arcades was Robocop. We were spoiled back then.
That's odd, I saw a documentary about Predator that said that the jungle they shot the movie in was actually freezing......
Maybe "Predators" with Adrien Brody. Quite a few of the scenes you could see their breath
First time i saw this in about 1989 i had started peaking on an acid trip, it freaked me right out
I remember that summer the WWF was pushing this movie because of Jesse Ventura
7:08, so dramatic! LOL!
11:40 the story about Cameron suggesting Winston use mandibles left out the part Winston told Cameron to "mind his own business, that this was McTiernan's/Winston's alien to design, not Cameron's" (though the idea of mandibles obviously stuck w/ Winston).
Where did you hear that? Sounds like bullshit as Winston & Cameron were friends so I couldn’t imagine the convo going down that route.
@@southlondon86 It was on AFI's 100 Greatest Sci-Fi Films.
CGH Oh wow. Did they say if it was said in jest or seriousness?
@@southlondon86 Well, both. He said Cameron should mind his own business but chuckled at the end of his recollection.
The 80's was so good for Action Movies. Predator, Aliens, Robocop, Commando, Total Recall, Rambo, Rocky, the list goes on and on, such a good decade for cinema. Now, it has been over two decades of super hero movies all with the same script.
Best film ever 👍👍 Jesse Ventura & jungle aliens 👽👽
I saw Preditor in Tacoma Washington the week it was released. I was at Ft Lewis for a 6 week evaluation for ROTC. We had an afternoon off and some of us cadets in the platoon decided to take in a movie. None of us knew a thing about the movie other than it had Arnold Schwarzenegger in it. We were blown away and had a thoroughly enjoyable afternoon. There's nothing like a bunch of 20 something military minded people to go see a movie like that together. Good Times.
What the hell are you talking about,this is a great movie
Is sarcasm the title
When i was a kid, I watched this movie soooo many times that the Cassette tape ripped... not sure how many times that is but a LOT... And when i got older i still watch this movie once or twice a year... its SOOOO GOOD!
I mean its legendary... the concept of Predator an alien species of honor bound hunters is Mind-blowing and GENIUS...