Light in the darkness Swedish Lucia Tradition Reaction - Jonna Jinton - TEACHER PAUL REACTS

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @Flokarl1
    @Flokarl1 2 года назад +26

    The Lucia celebration is Always live broadcasted on Swedish TV early in the morning the 13th of december - every year!
    As the Nobelprice cermonies are ongoing at the same time period (around the 13th of december every year) . Many Nobelprice winners has witnessed how they been truly frightened after seeing Lucia arrive in the total darkness early the Luciamorning....

  • @evawettergren7492
    @evawettergren7492 2 года назад +78

    In Sweden you would not connect Lucia with religion so much as with tradition. Everyone celebrate Lucia but very few are religious. It is simply a very nice tradition that involves singing ,often children dressing up to perform said songs, and a lot of sweet buns and drinks for the season. (gingerbread cookies, saffron buns and mulled wine)

    • @n0namesowhatblerp362
      @n0namesowhatblerp362 2 года назад +9

      It used to be what we thought was the darkest night of the year. Christianity later added the story of St Lucia. But no one minds today. The story of St Lucia is worth telling in my opinion. It makes you think of thinks more deeply.

    • @ViceCityExtra
      @ViceCityExtra 2 года назад +7

      Kristendom är mer som en tradition och kultur i Sverige än en religion kan man säga typ.

    • @andersliwenborg3355
      @andersliwenborg3355 9 месяцев назад

      @@ViceCityExtra Flaggan.kungen och kristendomen inbakat med hednisk kultur ( midsommar ) är klistret som binder ihop nationen - Lucia & Archemedes kommer från Syracusa på Sicilien Hon var Katolsk såsom Sverige en gång var 1578

  • @Asa...S
    @Asa...S 2 года назад +22

    The build-up for Christmas starts in the beginning of December, with 1 st Advent, and Lucia is when there are 11 days to Christmas. It's during the darkest time of the year, so the candles are really important. And special buns with saffron, and gingerbread. There are a lot of special songs for this occation and it's often celebrated in schools, and churches, in the early morning of December 13th.
    The Nobel laurates that stays in Sweden after the awards (Nobel Day is December 10th) at the Grand Hotel, gets visited in their hotel rooms in the morning by Lucia and her entourage.
    The lights in her hair symbolizes how she was burned on the stake, but the flames didn't touch her, then she was killed by a sword in her belly, which the red ribbon symbolizes.
    It's pretty scary to wear the candle crown, and hot stearine could drip on you (you often wear a wet cloth underneath the crown. Children wear battery crowns instead.

  • @CR-dq1ch
    @CR-dq1ch 2 года назад +21

    Sweden's largest religion is evangelical-lutheran. However Sweden is considered the world's most secular country with many agnostics and atheists. Around 80% (depending on study) of the Swedish population claim to not share beliefs with any organized religion. But, many are still close to the religious traditions both pagan and of course foremost Christian. The expression "gudars skymning" (twilight of the gods) is still a common expression and it has its root in the pre-Christian Norse culture.

    • @Nekotaku_TV
      @Nekotaku_TV 2 года назад

      Sadly I don't think it's true anymore because of immigration.

    • @CR-dq1ch
      @CR-dq1ch 2 года назад +1

      @@Nekotaku_TV Well thinking something isn't true is not good enough.
      As a teacher I am sick and tired of the lack of trust in official data and people believing in their own idea of the world as if they are allmighty.
      So let's look at some numbers: In 2021 there was 2 million people born in another country (SCB 2021 report). Since Sweden has 10 million people that accounts for 20%. Among these 20% approx. 5% are immigrants from Christian countries. Also among the 2 million foreign born Swedes we find atheists, agnostics and secular Christians, Muslims, and many other religions.
      So saying about 80% of the Swedish population being agnostics and atheist isn't far off.

  • @catarinasyngvesson3854
    @catarinasyngvesson3854 2 года назад +3

    Thank You! I hope You get well soon.
    13 dec is the darkest 24hours in Sweden.
    We bright that day up with Lucia and her followers. They sing several songs, all beautiful or funny.

  • @ge_mig_nat_som_kanns
    @ge_mig_nat_som_kanns 2 года назад +4

    This version is sung in swedish folk tunes. Kulning was used to call in the heards. I heard somewhere that every third swede sing in a choir (sounds like a lot but it is a very popular thing to do in your spare time). It’s not just church choirs.

  • @lenaengell8528
    @lenaengell8528 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for reacting to Jonna Jinton. She is an awesome Swede.

  • @gnarbeljo8980
    @gnarbeljo8980 2 года назад +13

    Actually, the version sung by choirs in prosession from the national stages to kindergartens all over the country isn't this one at all, but the Italian song sung in the early 20th century under the same name (recorded by several belcanto opera singers) and brighter in melody, very Napolitano actually. This girl is singing a version I never heard melodically, but in a specific tradition of traditional milkmaid cattle calling tonality. Sweden is all Lutheran protestant. So its kind of a curious tradition with the celebration of this single rather obscure Italian saint. But it's very much like the text you read, a story that stuck in the minds of the general public in mideval times. The tradition is someone is chosen to be Lucia and lead the prosession which is all dressed in the long white longsleeved winter nightgowns and nightshirts commonly worn in the 19th century, bc the procession is early morning to greet you in bed. Lucia wears a wide red ribbon around her waist, representing blood. And bears a crown on her head with live candles all around (and cloth on her scalp to protect) sometimes also covered in mytile (nordic tradition representing chastity, a virgin) after her comes all the maidens in white with a halo of glitter in their hair holding a burning candle. Then at least three "star boys" in the same attire but with wands with a star on the end and tall white cones with gold stars on their heads, most likely representing the three wize men following the starbof Bethlehem. Additionally there are often a few kids at the rear of the prosession dressed as gnomes with lanterns and gingerbread men/ladies. The Santaclause tradition was quite late to arrive in Sweden. But theres always been Tomten (tomtarbin plural) little gnomes looking roughly like him in folklore, every homestead had one, besides the ones in the woods grey in color protecting the wild. The house gnome was barely ever seen, but felt, (although stories were told of sightings) and served an important purpose. If you abused your wife and children, or any of your animals, Tomten was likely to bring misfortune to your doorstep. At Christmas porrige with fresh milk was left out for him.
    So before the St Nick tradition the Christmas Billie Goat would pay visit on Christmas eve. He'd be dressed in curly goat or sheepskin (not uncommon in furcoats back in the day but turned inside out) and wore a mask with huge curved horns like the old breeds of nordic goats (quite large with enormous horns). He pulled a sled througj the snow with a sack of simple gifts, but being a goat was a cheeky figure, not to be trusted entirely, and kids would be apprehensive of him. He'd be given a shot of schnapps for sure and the same local (farmhand probably) visiting several households would probably also account for a bit of rambunctious behavior. My grandmother born 1906 had visits from the goat all her childhood. In the countryside santa visits the same way these days but the rest is very americanized.
    Lucia celebration is common in every family, the kids get up at 6 or 7 am and waken their parents at the foot of the bed with song and Lucia herself carries a tray of morning coffee and saffron buns. The lyric are about the night being heavy with darkess around yard and home, life obscured by shadow. But alas, on your threshold stands Lucia dressed in white with lights in her hair!
    And there are many songs sung in the formation, one about Staffan the stable boy watering the horses under the star, others about the star of David, and some about gingerbread men visiting, and the mischievous Tomtar tiptoeing about the house at night.
    Advent is celebrated every sunday with the sweet saffron buns, gingerbread, mulled wine and much of this music. Sweden is one if the most seculat countries in the world, so traditions are more important than religion. But some do visit church on Christmas Day, the morning AFTER celebrations, and it's not mass with communion, but a 7 o'clock childfriendly service traditionally walked sledded to with burning torches and bells to scare off wolves. Songs sung together and Christmas cheers, the story of the holy family in the manger read, very simple and sweet.
    Mass is therefore usually given at midnight on Christmas eve for the religious, meaning you'd have to attend after Christmas dinner.
    We still decorate the tree and doorstep with Billy goats made of straw! It's an interesting mishmash of superstitious lore and Christianity and old Norse rituals of the winter solstice.
    The song style of the video is northern cattle heardresses (female) who also churned butter and slept in tiny cabins alone, and summoned the cattle with songs they made up. There are several videos on the subject on yt demonstrating the vocal stylings from bansheelike piercing calls to melancholic tones about this lifestyle. It's an improvisational art.
    Traditionally cattle weren't fenced in but taken to far away pastures by these women barely saw anyone all summer except when milk, butter and cheese was collected or for midsummer festivities.
    Most nordic reverence is towards nature rather and lyrically introspective, rather than adressing a humanoid god, for distict reasons.

  • @evamayakornstad2576
    @evamayakornstad2576 2 года назад +3

    Im danish, and we have the same tradition in Denmark.

  • @queenigelkotte
    @queenigelkotte 2 года назад +6

    Catholisism was actually more or less illegal in Sweden for hundreds of years. The state religion is protestantism but, as others have commented, very few are religious here and most dont think of it as a religious holiday anymore. We just like saffron buns and glögg

  • @Cookie_moonlove
    @Cookie_moonlove 2 года назад +7

    8:15 oh don't worry swedes aren't religious and not easily offended. It's just tradition not religion (comes from religion though).
    It's beautiful, songs, candles, dressing up, saffron buns and gingerbread cookies etc.
    Just like "christmas/Christmas eve" (Jul/Julfton) in Sweden is just celebrated as tradition and not a religious thing. Well for a very very few actually religious people it is but those are hard to find in Sweden.
    It's just lights and christmas trees (Julgranar) and good food and being kind and loving and trying to spend time with loved ones and singing cute and beautiful songs etc. and Santa (jultomten) for the kids,. Different ways to brighten the dark and cold months. You know, all the good stuff but no worshipping a god/gods and saints or ghosts etc. and no scary threats about going to hell and not being loved or taken care of after death unless you worship someone etc. Equality is Sweden's thing.

  • @viktoriabackeus7610
    @viktoriabackeus7610 2 года назад +4

    It's one of my favorite holidays, it's the ultimate snuggle up in the sofa and watch it on the television early in the morning kind of holiday. I love it almost more so than Christmas. But the whole thing is not really religious because the majority of Swedish people are atheists. However a lot of local Lucia events are taking place in churches and some of the songs are religious too.

  • @sannaolsson9106
    @sannaolsson9106 2 года назад +15

    It may come from religion, but nowadays it has nothing to do with it. Around 80 % of the population in Sweden is non religious. It's just a lovely tradition.

  • @annicaesplund6613
    @annicaesplund6613 2 года назад +6

    13 December, every year, Saint Lucia. A Saint from Italy, got her eyes hacked out because she was a Christian.
    Not a replacement for Jul ( Christmas).

  • @Nekotaku_TV
    @Nekotaku_TV 2 года назад +7

    We're predominantly atheist/doesn't give a shit.

  • @n0namesowhatblerp362
    @n0namesowhatblerp362 2 года назад +2

    Most swedes sang in the choir lol. not necessarily thorugh chruch but in school.
    Definitly protestantism. no catholism in scandinavia..Edit and sweden was the last of the scandinavian countries that were christianized. The elfdalian people in sweden still used runes until the 19th century. In school we were thought that people just accepted that they had to go to church, but they still held Thors hammer behind their backs. IKt took until the 14th century for southern sweden to be christianiyed. The years from 11 to 13th century are known to be very unruly, with no laws, nothing, a wild north sort of place.

  • @KimOfDrac
    @KimOfDrac 2 года назад +2

    It's called St. Lucy in english if that helps :)

  • @rogerforsman5064
    @rogerforsman5064 Год назад

    Sweden have the most choir/capita a lot from christian groups but most of them from student organisations on High school and Uni level. Unions have also used choirs to activate people.

  • @periaadoc
    @periaadoc Год назад

    Lucia Is a Mix of a lot of things. the 13:th was considered to be the darkest night and that's when the devil and his crew were walking about. In the olden days, it was a time for mischief. Thats the date. Now add the music: Students from the universities went home around this time and in order to make some money they knocked on houses, and sang some songs ( like you do in Christmas) to get some money. The names day on he 13:th was Lucifer and some guy went to Sicily and heard the Santa Lucia song ( ruclips.net/video/i2-Q_ObdE-4/видео.html ) and brought it home. It's early 1900 and we stir it up and make the people wote for the Lucia of the Year and before you know it we have a tradition since ancient times. oh. And ad more songs.

  • @rogerforsman5064
    @rogerforsman5064 Год назад

    According to Nordic folklore, December 13 was a dangerous night because it was believed that supernatural powers were on the move as it was also believed that animals could speak during Lucian night. All Christmas preparations would be ready for Lucia day and they celebrated that by eating and drinking a little extra even the pets

    • @rogerforsman5064
      @rogerforsman5064 Год назад +1

      And you repell supernatural powers with light so the lucia tradition would resonate with the the people!

  • @dremawhite3545
    @dremawhite3545 8 месяцев назад

    It was actually an ancient pagan ritual that the monks appropriated to get the pagan people to celebrate a Christian holy day. The pagans celebrated in ritual the winter solstice. The coming of the light as the days would start to be longer. This was called Yule. That was the way of the church, in those days, to get pagans to convert to Christianity . Yule is December 21. Also the early church also started celebrating the birth of Jesus on December 25th for the same reason. Anyway it is a beautiful tradition however it is celebrated.

  • @karinboman6877
    @karinboman6877 2 года назад

    This happends in skol, at work, and at most homes with kids 13 december every year. Not so much for religion as it is for fun.

    • @karinboman6877
      @karinboman6877 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/qTQP-RJinWk/видео.html

  • @lucywagonhunter
    @lucywagonhunter 11 месяцев назад

    We celebrate it as a pagan tradition to bring light to us in the darkest of times

  • @marithadman7168
    @marithadman7168 2 года назад

    Its the darkest day and night of the year,thats why we celebrate st.Lucia. Sweden is a christian country.

  • @istvan6856
    @istvan6856 10 месяцев назад

    You most know
    One of most spiritual darkest country of the World.

  • @annicaesplund6613
    @annicaesplund6613 2 года назад +1

    More catholic since it's a Saint.

  • @Kolious_Thrace
    @Kolious_Thrace Год назад +1

    Sweden and the Scandinavian countries in general, are far away from Catholicism!
    They are all Protestants.
    Protestantism began in Germany as a protest against the Pope and the Catholic Church.
    Then, Protestantism was split in many branches.
    In Germany I think they are Lutheran Protestants, in Scandinavia they are Evangelical Protestants, in England they are Anglican Protestants, in Scotland and Wales I think they are Presbyterian Protestants… etc
    At all these countries Catholicism was *strictly forbidden by law*
    In England for example, the heir to the throne must be an Anglican Protestant. If he converts to Catholicism *automatically loses* any right to the Throne, his place on the line of succession… etc
    In Sweden, Denmark, Norway I believe they are Evangelical Protestants ( I don’t know the exact difference with other Protestant denominations…)
    This “ritual” we saw in the video might be associated with Saint Lucia nowadays but I’m sure there is a connection with the old pagan rituals!
    There’s no away or reason to wear crown with candles and walk around the dark forests at night in Christianity!
    In the original Orthodox Church and all the heresies that came after (Catholicism, Protestantism… ) there is not such a thing!
    I’m sure that was an old pagan practice for the old Gods that kinda survived to this day under the cloak of “Christianity”.

  • @batteryjuice3041
    @batteryjuice3041 2 года назад +1

    I just wonder. Why is Detuning an original song obligatory ? songs don't have to be flat line lol.. The original quite old song has more to it. No cut notes that is

    • @FemaleSniper86
      @FemaleSniper86 2 года назад +2

      hm wel leven the original song has lots and lots of different tunes to sing in........ at school when we performed this in my 9th year, we had to sing in different tunes and I for one love to sing the low notes after that.... it is more melodramatic, more dramatic perhaps, as it should be aswell... it is a dark time, sung "historically" or "legendarily" by a woman with a very troubled life..... so why should it be high notes and uplifting? no, I like these darker notes

    • @batteryjuice3041
      @batteryjuice3041 2 года назад

      @@FemaleSniper86 The composition is not original, it's a cover. The cover is flat compared to the original one

    • @FemaleSniper86
      @FemaleSniper86 2 года назад +1

      @@batteryjuice3041 depends on which pitch you sing the original... you refer to the high pitch that is the norm? Even that sounds bad if no one sings on a differeng note along with them...
      Imagine a 20 people choir and all soprano... it wont sound good

    • @batteryjuice3041
      @batteryjuice3041 2 года назад

      @@FemaleSniper86 I said detune, refering to detune.. Removing notes or making it more flat. The level of instrument's have no affect what so ever.

    • @batteryjuice3041
      @batteryjuice3041 2 года назад

      @@FemaleSniper86 Exactly but it's common these days to remove notes to make it "techno" simple to remake classics this way for people who have a bad hearing or can't handle emotions. Like popmusic these days. I am a bit older then you and I sang this song myself back in the day in a choir. The missions today on the radio is to make music as simple ass possible, follows an agenda that started in 1998

  • @johankaewberg9512
    @johankaewberg9512 Год назад

    Saint Lucia poked her own eyes out for doubious reasons, so we celebrate self-mutilation every December 13:th

  • @ketilonka8357
    @ketilonka8357 2 года назад

    ☹️☹️☹️

  • @muratomar6502
    @muratomar6502 2 года назад

    Hi Paul! Today is a Birthday of Dimash... why's nothing, no special reaction?? 😂

    • @Vinterfrid
      @Vinterfrid 2 года назад

      What has that to do with Lucia?

  • @evaulrikajansson62
    @evaulrikajansson62 Год назад

    Every Shoolchild in Sweden sings this song in the school , EVERY year from daycare , its a beautiful tradition that has prechristian roots, even if Lucia in todays form, is from 1700 centrurie. Even I can sing it plausably