@@Andy-P No doubt China is trying the peaceful unification approach. However, will the USA allows the peaceful approach? It is obvious the USA is trying to use Taiwan as a pawn foe their proxy war, to USA's benefit.
@@thomaslau1214 Disagree. America supports the rights of the Taiwanese to self determination and preserving their democracy. The fate of Taiwan is important to all the democratic nations of the world. Just like the America supporting the Phillipines in the SCS and the freedom of the sea's there. The high sea's do not belong to China.
In 2019 roughly 140.000.000 Chinese people (10% of its entire population!) went on an overseas holiday and what happened ....they all got back home to China. It looks to me China is not a bad place to live!
Paul Van Dijck.. actually China is a very beautiful country.. you should follow foreign youtubers that live there.. Jerry Goode is one one of them.. so is Jayoe Nation.. and Nico in China.. not to mentioned the famous Dad and son teams the Barrett Channel..
You know, Most of the videos recorded by foreign RUclipsrs about China, when they arrive in China, the first sentence is, "omg, why 99% of the things are different from what the western media say, not the same country at all?" You can find a lot of youtubers say that, and also hundreds of thousands of comments understand this kind of videos from foreigners who had been to China before.
Xinjiang has been a part of China for more than 2000 years, since the Han Dynasty (202BC-220). As a matter of fact , Han Chinese had been living in Xinjiang for more than 1000 years before Uighurs moved there from Mongolia in the Tang Dynasty. Since then, Han and Uighur people co-existed in Xinjiang for 1200 years.
Being an oversea Chinese in Asia, we were far advance than the Chinese in China even right up 1980s. my mother went to visit her home village and she brought clothings, many basic needs beside money. She even bought a bicycle. Sewing machine was highly sort after. Today, the Chinese said to the oversea Chinese, just fly over and they will take care everything when we are there. We were there January this year, there were so many seniors dancing at the public parks or space. The locals were having great time. The shocking is, Chinese graduates in major cities are getting better salary than their counter parts in South East Asia with the exception of Singapore.
Overseas Chinese as well. My family would send care packages to China. Mostly old clothes. Whenever a friend or family went back, we'd give them a package to distribute to villagers. It didn't matter that we were unrelated.
I am a Malaysian. I am in my seventies. When I was a teenager, I remembered my mother would regularly send clothing and money back to relatives living in China because at that time China was very poor. I am very proud of China today. I am very proud to be a Chinese because of Singapore Prime Minister Lee Kwan Yew, China's President Deng Siow Ping and current President Xi Jing Ping.
@@yuenyookmay6127 Chinese of SEA had in many ways helped China in their most difficult time. First, the Sun Yet Sun pleading for fund to revolt against the Manchurian Dynasty. In World Two, many SEA Chinese supply resources and even volunteers to fight the Japanese invasion. Then the President Deng reformation, attracted many Oversea Chinese entrepreneurs in invest in Shenzhen Economic Zone. We are proud that those past assistance bear fruits and China become a beacon of hope to us now. Fortune goes in circle.
@@shopkedai Robert Kwok was great help to the Chinese government. Even all the Chinatowns from the East to the West all have so traditional and cultural values of the motherland. From food to CNY lion dances, etc. They value their culture and values so much. I am very proud of China's development and to eradicate the extreme poverty of the poor Chinese in the rural and some of the inaccessible villages is fantastic indeed. The government laid the policy with constant checks on its development and setting objectives to guide and to train the villages on the farming techniques and the marketing and sale of their produces had been so heartening to watch.
My parents used to tell me that "you better off in the long run make yourself look good rather than trying to make others look bad so you look good". Work hard toward your goals and don't worry about what others are doing. Mind your own business more or less is the key to success.
You are very right, usa has a big problem that they will not let other countries develop better than USA, if you are better they will try their best to lead his little brothers to stop and destroy you.
Such a shame so few people have even a fraction of Martin's understanding of China and tend to boil everything down to a few key labels viewed through their own cultural lens.
the west media just loves to play that word politics. You can have a person who saves your life and your entire family, but if they are part of the "Communist party" then they must be intrinsically a demon
@@Andy-P you should know the difference, China does exactly the same except that China doesn’t overthrow the local government or take off the tribe leaders, it is all based on trade, fair or not, no gun pointing.
@@Andy-P All success is based on some kind of supremacy. In terms of Han Chinese Supremacy, the British used the opium war in 1840 that had delayed it for about 200 years. Let's hope the Americans start a new drug war or virus war against China and delay the inevitable once more.
Martin, I want to thank you wholeheartedly for your unbiased comments about China. You are among the very few westerners who speak out the truth and fairness about China. Thank you so much once again!
@@wnklee6878 China actually worse than those country for many of its citizens. At least you have the chance to escape from those countries, but cages its people who conflict with CCP.
Very keen observation from Martin about the Chinese characters, these are the much cherished values of most Chinese over the centuries, the desire for unification under one dynasty, and the ability of change. The Chinese kingdoms have gone through much period with separate rulers and sometimes by fringe tribes, and almost always they'd be contesting the legitimacy(Chinese values) to rule over China, the latest one was when Qin fell apart in 1911, the ensuing chaos saw China disintegrated into many territories ruled by warlords, but none of them would dare to declare an independent state as that will wipe out its support base in no time. The Chinese in the 100 year humiliation had to make the biggest change to the point of doubting and abandoning Chinese values/system to adapt to the modern world, what we are seeing is a phoenix rising from the ashes after the fire, to have modernized while merging much of the Chinese values and will be able to move forward again.
@@wanggok You have a point, for example, the Cultural Revolution and simplified Chinese characters, which are destructions of Chinese culture. But Chinese culture is very inclusive. Communism will also be assimilated into and be part of Chinese culture. 100 years later, our offspring read this history, they may have a different opinion from you and I. Who knows?
Professor Jacques, thank you for giving this excellent analysis about China. I immigrated to Canada in 1976 from China and I have never felt as proudly as today of still having a Chinese origin and a Chinese civilisation characteristic.
Martin understands Chinese history and culture pretty deeply! Few western scholar who is really capable of explain how China is such a country today. Civilizational state rather than a nation state.
Congratulations Martin on your excellent understanding of China and the Chinese civilisation. And, thank you for being honest and speaking of the truth!
I am quite astonished to hear a western people understand chinese culture and civliazation so quite right as Professor Jacques. Even my 30 years close friend that we discuss western and chinese culture frequently can not reach this truth level. I have to say I have full respect to Professor and his understanding chinese culture and so to chinese people is a lot more close to what things really are then what I heard from TV's and publishcations.
West world would hardly believe him or his idea, things good of China were fobidden to talk in the west, meanwhile, things good of west are permitted to talk in China.
Martin Jacques was here in the Philippines and lectured in SOFITEL hotel where the Duterte men party. No one there took him seriously. IT was a noisy hall full of paid lackeys of our murderous president. There was no expert or serious student in that audience. They hall was full of pro-Chinese duterte boys. But Martin had to peddle his Walmart theories.
The following is what I borrowed from a Malaysian RUclipsr’s comment: I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported. They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor. They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US. They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US. When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices: 1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists. 2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes. China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky. During the pandemic, When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman. When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers. When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated. Western Media always have reasons to bash China. Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good. Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world. They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars? When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down. The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad. China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world. I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they belong. Good luck China.
"If one day China should change her color and turn into a superpower, if she too should play the tyrant in the world, and everywhere subject others to her bullying, aggression and exploitation, the people of the world should identify her as social-imperialism, expose it, oppose it and work together with the Chinese people to overthrow it.” - Deng Xiaoping speech at the United Nations, April 10, 1974
If somebody lied one time, Chinese (because of the population advantage) will tell the truth 10 times. Bibles have been printed thousands of times, nobody thinks it is overdone, because there are a lot of viewer who has never seen it yet.
I'm Chinese, came to the UK as a child. I have now lived in the UK for 23 years - longer than I have lived in China. Having first hand experience from both societies, I think Martin's view on china and his understanding of chinese culture and history is by far the most accurate and fair. Thank you!
One more proud Chinese on Taiwan here. Cross strait antagonism has been exaggerated. Like the Trumpets, it's usually the loudest and stinkest people that gets heard.
Deborah Brautigam is an excellent scholar regarding the relationship between China and Africa. Her work completely demolishes the 'debt trap diplomacy' that China is accused of
@Philosopher King Have you been to Xinjiang or are you repeating wild claims made by US politicians and mainstream media? 3 million people detained? Even 1 million is difficult to squirrel away from sight! Go visit Xinjiang like all the other Muslim nations and see for yourself! They come away praising Xinjiang authority for lifting all the families out of extreme poverty and for extending the life expectancy of the Ugyhur people from 30 years to 72 years in justc50 years.
China is not Caucasian is a factor in the geopolitical contest and it may also explain strong emotional reactions in Western countries to China’s rise.
Exactly!! Western criminals are having a fit! China is not western. This is the reason western powers are picking fights with China. Especially the United States.
I can speak for Americans - that's definitely an underlying factor, perhaps the KEY factor. America being #1, especially in military, is central to the American white male psyche and self confidence down to the individual level. I actually find it amusing how China brazingly demonstrates to the world how America is overrated.
@@MrVitconst people from the middle east, northern India, and north Africa are also considered Caucasian by the white man. They want to claim those dead civilizations as their past civilizations. You can tell by looking at the buildings in Washington D.C.. The white men in the government truly believed in their white supremacy.
@@nancypoopongpaibul5642 much of what he says is accurate fact, and he is very knowledgeable. It's his biased opinions and assumptions which make him lose credibility. This is commonly acceptable in China, but not for rational free thinkers in the rest of the world. But kudos to the people of China for working so hard and reaping those benefits, they deserve the associated prosperity, just hope one day they can regain their intellectual freedoms as well. The moment China stops censorship of it's people is the moment it will become the world leader.
@@countdadcula4475 his opinions based on his findings we can accept whether it biases or not depending on each individual,readers or listeners. You and I may have different opinions based on our background and knowledge. It just happened that I agreed to most of his opinions. Thank you for your exchange opinions.
A phrase i came across goes something like this: The west learned the art of various important inventions from the Chinese, like paper, printing, gunpowder, compass etc, but they never learn the art of their governance system.
Yes...they have learned many things , ideas and copy so many things from China ..yet they still " Said China " has stolen or copy from them. China had never said things like that ..like stealing or copy ideas from China. It is everyone rights to learn, copy, develop and improve ideas from everyone...that is how everyone will progress. What a Shame to the US. to say that China or every countries copy or steal ideas from the US. They have been stealing ideas from so many countries from the very begining and developed it for their benefits and also claimed it is their ideas.
Welp, people are afraid of communism for no reason. I hope we all at least learn about what it is in the first place, the 1% elites certainly don't want communism to rise. Btw, if anyone's going to say that the idea of communism is bad, no the system isn't bad, it's the people who are corrupted that fcked up, same to capitalism, the world is so corrupt right now. Even if communism wouldn't work, socialism should be considered.
They actually did. Some components of the modern civil service of the government was based on what the past Chinese dynasties court system. But it is not in your interest to promote all these stuff, no one need to know that tea, apples/oranges, roses, rice originate from China. The west has no interest in the ethics/morals ( dao de jing ) but has an obsession with Sun Tze.
@@babicomel2469 China governance system is infact evolved over thousands of years, where only the smartest people that had passed rigorous tests can rise to become officials, ministers, etc. And only someone with integrity, righteousness can become leader.
People don't understand what Han means. The Han dynasty existed roughly the same time as the Roman Empire. If the Roman Empire lasted till today, people from different regions would just be calling themselves Roman, instead of French, Spanish etc etc. So it is in China. The people of different regions speaking different languages just call themselves Han Ren (or people of Han). What are called the different dialects of Chinese, are as different as French from Italian from Romanian.
@@mourenx4777 A huge advantage to Chinese. A common written language. And it's been simplified from the traditional. Still I find it amazingly hard still. Next exam HSK 3
@@mourenx4777 Han is never a single race. Chinese scripts is the cornerstone that hold all Chinese people together under one roof as a unified country.
@@mourenx4777 Only after Qin Shi Huang imposed the script of Qin (Chin) on the rest of the warring states. Just like how the French and Spanish and Italians all use the Latin script of their ancient conquerors today to write their respective languages.
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Thank you Martin for what you do.I’m in my 80’s now but now realize how little I knew re geopolitics.I accepted the basic premise that Russia and China bad and the West was all good.Not having had any TV for the last 10 years and watching streams like yours I certainly realize what’s happened in history and the destruction that empires have caused.I’m pleased to see China’s growth and prosperity and they will stand up to the Americans .Teaming up with Russia is also a good move.Hopefully the people in The USA and Britain can force a move to a multi party political system before it’s too far gone.
The US and the west have done what the chinese have been trying for nearly 50 years pulling russia towards china. We do live in a strange world and getting as time goes by.
What do you mean by 'move to a multi party political system'? That's what the west invented and has now, it's called democracy. China is a uni-party system rule from top down.
Martin makes no mention of rising Chinese debt in pursuit of GDP, demographic issues which mean it could get old before Rich. No mention of the new difficulties with America in trying to thwart it's influence or the coming conflict with Taiwan. It's not a given that China will overtake America as the worlds strongest state. Martin goes on about Chinese Civilisation while is dismissive about Western Civilisation as saying western countries have 'just' grown out of national civilisation. So the Ancient Civilisations of Greece, Rome and the follow on ones of Holy Roman Empire & Byzantium are irrelevant.... having no influence on the European countries of today.... rubbish! Just look at language, customs, religion and law. Example of the CCP narrative undermining the very cultural identity of the west as being inferior. Also at first says China has never expanded militarily like the west then goes on to say how western China was added to China through a series of wars. Though he does say lot things that I agree with so not all bad by a long way.
@@Andy-P Go study Chinese history before you fart from your mouth. Those western regions of China were originally Chinese territories from ancient time. Uyghurs were part of Mongol tribe and not the originally habitans of Xinjiang, so is Tibet!!
@@Andy-P TheUyghurs are nomad people from neighbouring countries who finally settled in Xinjiang some centuries ago.So they are squatters not owners of Xinjiang. Have you seen how squatters are treated in Myanmar?
The following is what I borrowed from a Malaysian UTuber’s comment: "Exactly Said" I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported. They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor. They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US. They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US. When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices: 1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists. 2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes. China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky. During the pandemic, When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman. When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers. When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated. Western Media always have reasons to bash China. Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good. Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world. They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars? When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down. The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad. China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world. I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they belong. Good luck China. 96
Hi Rene, to know the truth about the real China, you may check up independent bloggers who have and are still living in China for more than 10 years like CYRUS JANSSEN, DANIEL DUMBRILL, MATT and team from the GRAYZONE, Gweilo 60, Nathan Rich. RT America also offer very fair comments about China and other countries. Lastly Professors and Scholars like KISHORE MAHBUBANI who was a Scholar and Diplomats, Dean, etc....MARTIN JACQUES. They both knows US and China extremely well.
@@AW-zk5qb america might still have its negative hegemony effect on the world right now, but china will have double the GDP by 2030. due to king rat trump the moron most of the world is already tuning out the US, and they clearly have lost most of the respect they gained though the terror they have spread.
@@renedesign5354 To be fair, I think Bush II did more to tarnish the US' image than Trump. Trump may be a bellicose asshole, but at least he didn't start two wars and occupations that have led (directly and indirectly) the the deaths of at least 2.3 million in the Middle East.
I stumbled upon this comment by Asha Vahishta and I thought it makes sense: "The West has a deep misunderstanding of China's political system. Westerners often use authoritarianism to describe the leadership of the CPC. In fact, it should be called legal authoritarianism. Because its power is given by all the people from the bottom up. So if you want to sell Western-style democracy to China, all the people will not support it. If you want to understand the reason more deeply, it may be traced back to the difference in social development, which is to return to the struggle between the king and the nobility. In the West, the aristocracy made themselves the leader of the people, defeated the king, and gained power. Different aristocracy created different parties, and fought for power through the parties. This is the modern parliament in western democracy. The aristocracy in the past is now the consortium and big business. In China, it was the king who made himself as the leader of the people, united the people and officials, defeated the aristocracy, and gained power. Since then, the king’s interests have been tied to everyone. The people here are not like the West, they are one, and they will sacrifice their own interests for collective interests, which is why China can overcome the epidemic so fast. And this is why the Chinese will not accept Western democracy, because there is no aristocracy in this system to grab a lot of resources from the people. Westerners do not understand that actually this is a more advanced political system."
@@mboihk3796 I guess you are not including Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, or much of Xinjiang. Watch what would happen if China tries anything with Taiwan. They are now in the world's spotlight after they did so much better at dealing with the pandemic than Mainland China.
@@countdadcula4475 Hong Kong was higher. 95% Hongkongers support to be with mainland China. Tibet and Xinjiang are part of mainland and it was already included. Taiwan will always be part of China untill the end of the world. China is simply playing a delay game. The right time to fully acquired it will come someday. No western interference can stop it.
@@mboihk3796 China knows nothing of war compared to the US. And the free world will collectively fight to protect the island country of Taiwan. They may even replace China with Taiwan in the UN if China's CCP keeps biting at other countries heels. Oh, and no one in the world believes China's 'numbers' aside from the poor people of China who are forced to eat that garbage propaganda.
As a graduate of 2013-2014 from Defense and Strategy Course of CDS NDU PLA, his interview is the best part of my understanding on China and most informative than any lectures given in Chang Ping during my time there.
As a Chinese I can't fault Martin Jacques' knowledge about China. He would be someone most Chinese would admire and respected. His neutrality would make some Chinese ashamed of themselves of under-eductaed and under-informed. His most distinguished achievement to me is his universal view of judgement. Many British would even regard him as unpatritotic because his judgement is based on historical facts and not poltics. I value his view based on the for goodness of humanity which is neither biased to the west nor the east..
As an update...many of the younger generations (under 30) in those outward regions like Xinjiang and Tibet are amalgamating into the general Chinese population. Doesn't mean they're all happy and prosperous (or even speak Mandarin well) but essentially, it's acceptable to that their own unique background is a part of the greater Chinese civilization. The identity issues are progressing to that point now. So overall...the window is closing for those anti-China critics to use those regions as a tool. However, like Martin said, you have to see these things from a non-Western view. Because this is how most of Asia is like. Parts of India aren't really "Indian", nor do the locals look like the average Indian, yet are part of the greater Indian civilization...likewise in Russia, there are significant parts who aren't "Russian" on the outside, but are part of the greater Russian nation. The Iranian peoples, the Turkic peoples, Southeast Asia, etc. etc. The Arab world also have their own diversity in there too. The western concept of Race is but a small part of their greater fluidic identity in Asia.
Question ... would it not be much better to let the Tibetans and Uighurs keep their own country rather than forcing them to intermix with the Han? I thought the Han are very proud of being ethnically distinct.
@@HR-yd5ib Long story short....going back to history which you can google yourself...Han is a fluidic concept which many people didn't know they were a part of until recently. Some knew since the last dynasty, but not many. Han is made up of so many groups of people themselves not part of the original Central Plains civilization started by the Shang 3,000 years ago. Anyways, it's not to criticize you specifically, but you should know if you are that interested. As for Tibetans and Uyghurs, they are made up of many different groups too, and like I said, many of the young generations, most of the post 80s/90s generation and nearly all the post 2000s have amalgamated...meaning they still themselves as Chinese. So, this question you ask is already too late.
@@wolf-man-bear-pig-torque , I guess one would have to look at 23 and me data to confirm this. But i guess my question was misplaced. Would like the input from a Han Chinese on this.
He doesn’t know a thing about modern China, he can’t even speak Chinese and he’s never lived long in China. All he’s done is read lots of communist propaganda and history books. China today is more like Nazi Germany than anything from its history before Mao
Comparing the US and China, the American people and culture totally opposite. The Americans cannot compete with the Chinese in terms of discipline hard working and saving. Bashing do no good, it is better to cooperate and work together for world humanity.
What you said about freedom of speech n elect politicians are just illusion. There's no difference at all between Democrats n Republicans . You are only been given who to vote for by the Deep State Government. The choice is just a concorded delusion.
The US competes with strength, ingenuity, and resilience. Both need each other and I agree they would do best to cooperate but the moment China touches Taiwan, all bets will be off.
@@countdadcula4475 Haven't you heard of the phrase "Yanks go home." Its none of the US f..k...g business in relation to Taiwan which is part of China. The US will be annihilated if it choose to be a busy body. It thinks it is the world Police but Police they are not. The US is just the biggest terrorist on earth.
I think China still has long way to go. From extreme poverty to decent income is a long journey. China is focusing on development and improving people's lives. The influence is different types of influence.
Yeah We know that. We Chinese people have been living in difficulties, even if it takes several generations of efforts, will not stop our determination to move forward. The better life gives people hope and motivation to keep going.😉
It is focusing on development, Yes. Improving people’s lives. Not really. Otherwise, Chinese people would not try to migrate to Australia and Canada in droves every year.
Martin is one of those journalists and scholars who deserves great respect. He has insisted on speaking the truth, on what he really studied and think about China, especially in an atmosphere that many most influential western media are trying their best defamation on China. Truth-telling and sticking to professional ethics is the easiest thing, but it's also the hardest thing in the current time.
Another mind blowing interview with the author of When China Rules the World, Martin Jacques. His indepth knowledge & understanding of China is amazing. Perhaps @BBCNews could interview @martjacques to broadcast a truer and realistic China today?
By pointing out the differences between Western and Chinese culture, political systems, economy and civilisations Martin Jacques has helped me to better understand the causes of the current tensions between the western powers and China. Thanks for your insightful discussion.
Yes, you are right. Esp on the Authority Obedience Cultures of East Asians : Japanese, Chinese and Koreans. To the Wests, its called Totalitarian and Authoritative Dictators. To us, we are culturally trained since young to manage our Head of the Household from our Family and the Company. Its as easy as ABC for Japanese, Chinese and Koreans. Its our Cultures, of course we know how to manage . I am sure all ethnic Chinese know the : Close one-eyed, Open One-eye, one ear in, one ear out, the so-called Chinese Management Theories. Tell the West : Open one-eye, close one-eye, open one-ear, close one-ear to the West. They will be so excited and say : No, the Chinese should not behave in such low manners. you must know what is Free Speech , blah, blah, blah.. Come on, we are so cool and calm because we are trained so young. They are not brought up with this Cultures and hence make a big fuss out of it.
I always "scour" the internet for new Martin Jacques vlogs. Can't wait for the next one. But I agree with the other public comment that his book "when China RULES the World", the word RULE had created "paranoia", animosity in the west against chinese, including asians who happen to look chinese, not understanding that Martin meant the word as a metaphor.
In my view and contrary to the view of many, that the West/US failed to "understand" China and therefore their hostility towards China. I think they understand China too well and that a strong and powerful China would dilute their own grip on the world. And that would be unsavoury for them to accept after nearly 3 centuries of the whitemen's domination of the world.
Martin is first class on the subject of the World order and about China. The questions posed by the interviewer is very fair and well thought through. Martin speaks the truths. About Martin’s demise, I feel for his loss and the circumstances of which racism was cited in his wife’s death in Hong Kong. I live in London, I too have felt similar treatment being at the receiving end like Hari, Martin’s late wife. I agree, racism is systemic in most countries and should be spoken about. Thanks 🙏
Anyone who claims China had "Han" supremacy knows nothing about "Han" and really pisses me off. China, or the central part of China, has always distinguished itself from its surrounding with 3 things: infrastructure, technology, and culture. These were established during the first 3 dynasties -- Xia, Shang, and Zhou Ever since the Zhou dynasty, a distinction of the "Middle Kingdom" from the rest was established, based on the superior infrastructure, technology, and culture of the Middle Kingdom. Note that the concept of "Han" came much later, near the end of the Song dynasty, when it was ravaged by Mongolians and the people at that time dreamed of the glory of the Han dynasty and identified themselves as such. Before that time, Chinese couldn't care less about ethnicity. Today, "Han" has been used by the West to promote their own racism.
Here here. You could say that "Han" has always been a unifying, and encompassing identity based on culture and tradition rather than one that excludes and discriminates.
If we're going by periods, I think China is probably in its 7th era under the Sun...starting with Western Zhou to Han, Tang, Song, Ming, High Qing and current times. Might even be the 8th if we include parts of Shang dynasty when it was the local hegemon, but it's stretching. Even the dark periods had some golden moments too...like the flourishing of Chinese philosophies and strategic thinking in the Spring and Autumn/Warring States era. The memorable and creative art, poetry and stories from the bloody 3 Kingdoms period and chaotic Jin/Northern-Southern dynasties. There was also some important academic contributions made in the tragic late Qing/Republican era. Chinese history should be looked at in its entirety, not just the good parts.
I also thing Qin is another, no matter how short it last, it is a glorious period with so many advancements in so many aspects, history should remember that.
@@rishsab1316 the standardization of wheels, roads, measurements, writings, centralization of government bureaucracy and military are all introduced during the Qin period. There wouldn't be a unified China if there're no Qin that unified everything.
@@limitlesssky3050 exactly，according to historians, the concept of a unified China, or Huaxia, as a civilization and a nation was first raised by Zhou Dynasty, Qin is the one who realized it in practice for the first time.
One of the most informative n honest discussion I’ve had the pleasure of watching n learning from. I wish our political, economic n educational leaders can have such raw n honest discussions......good job.
I’m amazed by the arguments of the journalist. All minorities can reivindícate a part of the land where they live as an independent country? So, let’s talk about the Chinese diaspora, which account about 60 millions people around the world. Should they reivindícate all Chinatowns they live in? In San Francisco, in Malasya, in Philippines, in Singapore, in Indonesia, in New York in London? So I ask, which part of Australia belongs to the Australian natives people in Australia? What part belongs to Maoris in New Zealand? What part of USA belongs, as an independent territory, to natives tribes? And what about the cultural genocide of all the territories of the world where European colonialist came, invade a conquered? 48 countries have English as oficial language: Why? Is this not a cultural genocide?
Once China is strong enough bully the West, maybe that isn't such a bad idea, lol. Joking of course, because what's unfortunate is that ultimately it's up to the West to make sure people living in their societies doesn't feel any need to secede or stage a revolution no matter their creed or race but unfortunately I'm not sure if the West is still capable of doing this.
The Host guy is completely disappointed with what Martin is describing about China. I think he started the show thinking that Martin is going to demonize China and it turns out to be the opposite. :-))
I think the host must have done his research and would know Martin Jacques' views on China. And I do think the host is really trying to understand; answering his own suspicions about China like most Westerners. That's a good start.
Novara media is pretty disappointing over all, they pretend to be independent news, but somehow end up repeating all the establishment and MSM talking points in their programs.
When I was in college decades ago, my professor said this is the white men's world, I was laughing inside and thinking he is ignorant in world history.
Really? Why does Chinese government say that China is a developing country and America is a developed country. Xinjiang and Tibet are poor (less developed) regions.
@@7tuv Actually America is an overdeveloped colonial empire that is now collapsing and all the rats are sinking with the ship, and that's why there so much debt, homelessness, Covid deaths, violence and murder. If you've ever been to Xinjiang or Tibet you would find that they are noble traditional communities and have a tremendous grace and happiness you just don't see in America. Probably much like the Native Americans were before the white colonists wiped them out with Small Pox, the Flu, Gonorrhea, syphilis and the Winchester rifle.
I don’t think that people in Beijing or Shanghai (maybe overdeveloped) want to live in Xinjiang or Tibet ‘happily’. I don’t think that South Koreans want to live in North Korea ‘happily’, either.
I hope that Western world has more true experts like Mr Jacques. For Western countries, especially US, still majority people live in an obsolet echo chamber without realization. very sad that they can not face the hard core fact or create their alternative truth like trumpy crowd.
Martin Jacques should definitely watch Cyrus Janssen on RUclips. Cyrus Janssen once mentioned that a Chinese native came up to him and was impressed by the fact that he, as an American citizen, could vote for the president. In the Chinese person's mind, he thought it would take a lot of research and decision-making, but Cyrus Janssen just responded to the Chinese person and to the audience that in America, voting is like a popularity contest. The average person doesn't want to listen to Hillary Clinton, an eloquent politician, about boring topics. They want someone like Donald Trump simply because he's entertaining and popular. That's how you win America's votes. You have to appeal to the dumb and uneducated, the common man. While democracy has definitely worked for many countries, it really should not be the end-all-be-all for all nations, Cyrus Janssen pointed out.
In general, Chinese embraces, respects and appreciates cultural differences. Whereas, some groups in the West seem to exert hate on cultural differences. This may be a reason why they could not or do not want to understand that racism issue, in general, does not exist as vastly as on their own lands. Martin is an enlightened person. 👍
Very educative and informative at the same time. Great discussion. If one-third of the American leaders are as knowledgeable as Martin Jacques, the world would certainly have been a better place.
@Gongzheng Yao I wish that is true, but honestly doubt that they knew the reality. For example, many of them didn't realise China and India have more than 2000 years of history. Compare that to the 250 years of the so called western history. More power to peace loving Asian countries.
@Gongzheng Yao I don't agree with you. I believe the old generation of US leader were willing to learn Chinese and think-tank were willing study Chinese from Chinese history and culture. But it seem not for current leaders and think-tank.
2023 will usher in Martin Jacque ‘s second epic book on China, a sequel to his first, “When China Rule the World.” Even by 2023, readers can see whether Martin is prophetic or just a one hit wonder. Stay tune.
Martin puts a most compelling argument.....damned good interview. Th interviewer himself is no slouch..he has completed good background work in order to both question Martin's views and opinions and also to draw out his views in a way that is challenging and constructive. Highly recommended viewing.
I am a malaysian. i have been to china since 1999. i can see how china has been transformed both economically, technologically and infrastructure improvements.
The Han Chinese have flowed into the world, but in China, in addition to the Han Chinese, there are 55 local ethnic groups, all with their own territories and their own languages.
many of those minorities in china didnt exist.there were only 5 nations before cpc took control. they learned soviet to recognize as many as they could.however,most of those have been mixed with han for about 1k yrs. and han is also a big mix of all kinds. so today in china the minorities similar to han together with han could make up about 98% of its population. terrorism issue was mainluy caused in border area with afganstan.in a tiny oasis. so in main part of china.minorities do not have the conception of territory like that in socttland. they naturally think they r chinese.even they r living abroad.
What a great interview! Martin Jacques has an extensive knowledge of China's history and it is well worth the time to listen and learn something about China from Professor Martin Jacques.
Deng abstracted the philosophy and psychology of nation building on the tenets of our founding Father LKY, the world knows it. Except China’s Vastness in land, natural resources, and population has made it so spectacular!
In fact, PM Lee Kuan Yew did mention to Deng Xiao Peng that if Singapore can do it, China will do better as Singapore's migrant from China were coastal fishermen and farmers from South China while Deng has all the Scholars n Mandarins in Beijing.
along with Prof Richard Wolff (his channels I subscribed a long time), Martin Jacques is accurate and truthful, which the WESTERN WORLD SHOULD PAY ATTENTION/LEARN. The truth is also told on these channels : Nathan Rich, Cyrus Janssen, Barrett, Jerry Goode, the Jayoe nation, Numuves, Living in China, FerMuBe, Daniel Dumbrill, and Difference frames the world + CGTN.
Given the American propensity to pass judgment on other countries, this may be difficult. But the Biden administration should consider not insulting China for two reasons. First, even today, America is the only country that insults China. No other government in the world does so. In such a context, it is not China that will look isolated. America will. Second, the public insults of China feed an unconscious strain in the Western body politic that could seriously complicate Sino-American relations: the fear of the “yellow peril.” This fear has surfaced from time to time, contributing to the rise of anti-Asian violence in America.
As I see it, only time will tell if what China hoped for Africa and Eurasian landmass could repeat what she had done to herself. I believe, China has dealt very positively on the impact of infrastructure on her economic progress. With such an approach on the Eurasian landmass and Africa, she has offered similar approach though the progress in Africa could be a little slower whereas in the Eurasian landmass, the progress has been better with both the middle powers of Iran and Turkey and a little later Pakistan being rail linked to China. With a little more progress, the rail based connectivity could be a game changer. Remember when China first proposed the East-EU rail link, many thought it was madness! But the volume has increased since then. Some 20 years ago, China reportedly had to spend 29% of her GDP on total logistics cost, to-day it is reported by WB at 14.6%. For a economy of US15 Trillion, it means a "saving" of 1% would mean a saving of US150 Billion! the overall saving since then would be some US 2.19 Trillion since then! Hence, one should not be surprised that she will continue to improve her internal logistics connectivity together with the BRI concept!
If you'd watched any of Aaron's work before or Novara media at all you would know he is in no way biased against China or a Western imperialist. Aaron is a communist; he's even written a book on it.
For those looking for a date when China became the most influential country in the world I would say this: Anchorage marks the official start of China’s leadership of the world.
China ‘s success has been achieved without dropping any bombs on anyone,
It has not fired a shot!
Indeed. Can China take over Taiwan without firing a shot?
@@Andy-P I like your comment >>>the best!
@@Andy-P No doubt China is trying the peaceful unification approach. However, will the USA allows the peaceful approach? It is obvious the USA is trying to use Taiwan as a pawn foe their proxy war, to USA's benefit.
@@thomaslau1214 Disagree. America supports the rights of the Taiwanese to self determination and preserving their democracy. The fate of Taiwan is important to all the democratic nations of the world. Just like the America supporting the Phillipines in the SCS and the freedom of the sea's there. The high sea's do not belong to China.
@@Andy-P 台湾问题是中国内政，别诡辩了。
In 2019 roughly 140.000.000 Chinese people (10% of its entire population!) went on an overseas holiday and what happened ....they all got back home to China. It looks to me China is not a bad place to live!
Paul Van Dijck.. actually China is a very beautiful country.. you should follow foreign youtubers that live there.. Jerry Goode is one one of them.. so is Jayoe Nation.. and Nico in China.. not to mentioned the famous Dad and son teams the Barrett Channel..
You know, Most of the videos recorded by foreign RUclipsrs about China, when they arrive in China, the first sentence is, "omg, why 99% of the things are different from what the western media say, not the same country at all?" You can find a lot of youtubers say that, and also hundreds of thousands of comments understand this kind of videos from foreigners who had been to China before.
Also worth to mention : Nathan rich , Numuves , gweilo60 , thomas ( afu , non political ) . from there i'm sure u'll get more suggestion from yt . lol
@@azharidris7092 - I do! Thanks!
@@elliot905 I do! Thanks!
Xinjiang has been a part of China for more than 2000 years, since the Han Dynasty (202BC-220). As a matter of fact , Han Chinese had been living in Xinjiang for more than 1000 years before Uighurs moved there from Mongolia in the Tang Dynasty. Since then, Han and Uighur people co-existed in Xinjiang for 1200 years.
Uhgurs moved to Xinjiang region mostly from middle asia not Mongolia, though during the Mongolian empire time.
Correct
In fact xingjian was a buddhism region before islam was born
@@scchiang00 yup. Mongol empire forced it on them
When you said Uyghur moved from Mongolia I assume you mean Mongolian empire, not from today’s Mongolia region.
Being an oversea Chinese in Asia, we were far advance than the Chinese in China even right up 1980s. my mother went to visit her
home village and she brought clothings, many basic needs beside money. She even bought a bicycle. Sewing machine was highly sort after.
Today, the Chinese said to the oversea Chinese, just fly over and they will take care everything when we are there. We were there
January this year, there were so many seniors dancing at the public parks or space. The locals were having great time.
The shocking is, Chinese graduates in major cities are getting better salary than their counter parts in South East Asia with the exception of Singapore.
Overseas Chinese as well. My family would send care packages to China. Mostly old clothes. Whenever a friend or family went back, we'd give them a package to distribute to villagers. It didn't matter that we were unrelated.
I am a Malaysian. I am in my seventies. When I was a teenager, I remembered my mother would regularly send clothing and money back to relatives living in China because at that time China was very poor.
I am very proud of China today. I am very proud to be a Chinese because of Singapore Prime Minister Lee Kwan Yew, China's President Deng Siow Ping and current President Xi Jing Ping.
@@yuenyookmay6127 Chinese of SEA had in many ways helped China in their most difficult time. First, the Sun Yet Sun pleading for fund to revolt against the Manchurian Dynasty. In World Two, many SEA Chinese supply resources and even volunteers to fight the Japanese invasion.
Then the President Deng reformation, attracted many Oversea Chinese entrepreneurs in invest in Shenzhen Economic Zone. We are proud that those past assistance bear fruits and China become a beacon of hope to us now. Fortune goes in circle.
you are not right right person to judge weather people in china are happy or not.. yourself ran away for liberty
@@shopkedai Robert Kwok was great help to the Chinese government. Even all the Chinatowns from the East to the West all have so traditional and cultural values of the motherland. From food to CNY lion dances, etc. They value their culture and values so much. I am very proud of China's development and to eradicate the extreme poverty of the poor Chinese in the rural and some of the inaccessible villages is fantastic indeed. The government laid the policy with constant checks on its development and setting objectives to guide and to train the villages on the farming techniques and the marketing and sale of their produces had been so heartening to watch.
My parents used to tell me that "you better off in the long run make yourself look good rather than trying to make others look bad so you look good". Work hard toward your goals and don't worry about what others are doing. Mind your own business more or less is the key to success.
You are very right, usa has a big problem that they will not let other countries develop better than USA, if you are better they will try their best to lead his little brothers to stop and destroy you.
So true
This is how the world turns out! By keeping your HEAD dowen and don't worry?.
these words you make my days I will keep it in my mind
guess your parents are wiser than 99% of the US politicians.
After 5000 years, China still has 56 ethnic groups, languages, cultures intact and all. North America, Australia and NZ?
They like to use white detergent powder to “cleanse” the colours, as they had showed and done in Iraq decades ago.
Lol look up the word *Sinicization*
@@trolllovindaddy that is a paradoxical word.
@ troll daddy, the process of Sinicization was voluntary, even in the case of Vietnam.
@Yellow First ahhh yes deflection... misdirect attention to another topic, typical ccp strategy
Such a shame so few people have even a fraction of Martin's understanding of China and tend to boil everything down to a few key labels viewed through their own cultural lens.
True. Most boil it down to 3 letters....C C P
but wait, the media tells us that China = Bad, Western = Good, I'm so confused!
the west media just loves to play that word politics. You can have a person who saves your life and your entire family, but if they are part of the "Communist party" then they must be intrinsically a demon
it goes for about everything in their lives, own politicians or candidates for president unuions, etc...?
@@jascforfun7576 Americal offical just told the media, America need to make China looks bad, Then America could gain more supports
"British Colonialism was based on White Supremacy" how well said by Professor Jacques.
Do you have the evidence?
Chinese Colonialism based on Han Supremacy? Taking Zambia as an example?
@Yellow First Am not defending the European Colonialism of the past. Shame it's being repeated by China.
@@Andy-P you should know the difference, China does exactly the same except that China doesn’t overthrow the local government or take off the tribe leaders, it is all based on trade, fair or not, no gun pointing.
@@Andy-P All success is based on some kind of supremacy. In terms of Han Chinese Supremacy, the British used the opium war in 1840 that had delayed it for about 200 years. Let's hope the Americans start a new drug war or virus war against China and delay the inevitable once more.
Martin, I want to thank you wholeheartedly for your unbiased comments about China. You are among the very few westerners who speak out the truth and fairness about China.
Thank you so much once again!
Kipling: www.poetrynook.com/poem/now-it-not-good-christians-health-hustle-aryan-brown
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@@johnsoltan965 China does not want to end up like Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Lybia, Iraq, Syria...
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@@wnklee6878 China actually worse than those country for many of its citizens. At least you have the chance to escape from those countries, but cages its people who conflict with CCP.
there are many but not under control medias.
Very keen observation from Martin about the Chinese characters, these are the much cherished values of most Chinese over the centuries, the desire for unification under one dynasty, and the ability of change. The Chinese kingdoms have gone through much period with separate rulers and sometimes by fringe tribes, and almost always they'd be contesting the legitimacy(Chinese values) to rule over China, the latest one was when Qin fell apart in 1911, the ensuing chaos saw China disintegrated into many territories ruled by warlords, but none of them would dare to declare an independent state as that will wipe out its support base in no time. The Chinese in the 100 year humiliation had to make the biggest change to the point of doubting and abandoning Chinese values/system to adapt to the modern world, what we are seeing is a phoenix rising from the ashes after the fire, to have modernized while merging much of the Chinese values and will be able to move forward again.
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the Chinese like kowtow to emperor but also want the world to do so
You know chinese ppl and culture well.
@@zhewu152 communist Chinese destroy the Chinese culture
@@wanggok You have a point, for example, the Cultural Revolution and simplified Chinese characters, which are destructions of Chinese culture. But Chinese culture is very inclusive. Communism will also be assimilated into and be part of Chinese culture. 100 years later, our offspring read this history, they may have a different opinion from you and I. Who knows?
Professor Jacques, thank you for giving this excellent analysis about China. I immigrated to Canada in 1976 from China and I have never felt as proudly as today of still having a Chinese origin and a Chinese civilisation characteristic.
say "jai shree Ram"
You must be in a big hurry to migrate back to China then ?
Why Canada? They are nice there but is that the reason u moved there
Martin understands Chinese history and culture pretty deeply! Few western scholar who is really capable of explain how China is such a country today. Civilizational state rather than a nation state.
@Yellow First the western knows China the less the better. 😄 If China is smart, it should educate it's people to know the world outside of China.
@@cninusa China knows the world but the world dont know China.
@@cninusa China knows the world but the world dont know China.
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@The Silenced Opposition So are you.
Congratulations Martin on your excellent understanding of China and the Chinese civilisation. And, thank you for being honest and speaking of the truth!
I am quite astonished to hear a western people understand chinese culture and civliazation so quite right as Professor Jacques. Even my 30 years close friend that we discuss western and chinese culture frequently can not reach this truth level. I have to say I have full respect to Professor and his understanding chinese culture and so to chinese people is a lot more close to what things really are then what I heard from TV's and publishcations.
West world would hardly believe him or his idea, things good of China were fobidden to talk in the west, meanwhile, things good of west are permitted to talk in China.
Martin Jacques was here in the Philippines and lectured in SOFITEL hotel where the Duterte men party. No one there took him seriously. IT was a noisy hall full of paid lackeys of our murderous president. There was no expert or serious student in that audience. They hall was full of pro-Chinese duterte boys. But Martin had to peddle his Walmart theories.
The following is what I borrowed from a Malaysian RUclipsr’s comment:
I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In
those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never
once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca
five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of
Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized
Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642,
the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised
by each, one after another.
When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When
they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands.
The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan
Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan &
Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan
Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian
Empire.
Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China
to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around,
after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty
in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were
burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb
opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong
was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing
Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that
time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining
10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s
institutions were built with profit from opium.
After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really
greedy. The British wanted the Qing government:
1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely,
and tax free.
2. Make opium legal in China.
Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with
supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again,
China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and
threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was
forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of
silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out
freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent
amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as
labor.
In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of
Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA,
Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking
(Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were
raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums
like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris.
In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of
Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing
Massacre alone.
Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and
unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths
from famine and power struggles.
Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat”
story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed
China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to
the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to
ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually
practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy
model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China.
Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful
than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on
the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from.
In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from
poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have
built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail
network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure.
They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second
largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing
into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce
and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration
to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of
the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the
country has reached an unprecedented height.
For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it.
China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western
Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards
China.
Everything China does is negatively reported.
They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was,
Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the
profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the
labor.
They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time,
they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The
fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to
the US.
They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is
China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time,
the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority
Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for
university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the
US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US.
When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices:
1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists.
2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people,
bomb their homes.
China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How
the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from
the sky.
During the pandemic,
When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were
accused of being inhuman.
When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were
accused of lying about the actual numbers.
When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support
to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated.
Western Media always have reasons to bash China.
Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China
which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done
very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the
West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want
is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too
good.
Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the
opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs
(Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National
Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the
British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all
the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered
BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think
they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy,
which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world.
They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO &
banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one.
Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country.
USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always
buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars?
When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world
let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products,
like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and
Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never
match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to
continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want
to pull China down.
The recent movement by the US against China has a very important
background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar
in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned
by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money
out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely
accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be
traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded
in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will
sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this
order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed
crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad.
China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world.
I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel
happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they
belong. Good luck China.
"If one day China should change her color and turn into a superpower, if she too should play the tyrant in the world, and everywhere subject others to her bullying, aggression and exploitation, the people of the world should identify her as social-imperialism, expose it, oppose it and work together with the Chinese people to overthrow it.” - Deng Xiaoping speech at the United Nations, April 10, 1974
Bruh you've been spamming this comment everywhere
If somebody lied one time, Chinese (because of the population advantage) will tell the truth 10 times. Bibles have been printed thousands of times, nobody thinks it is overdone, because there are a lot of viewer who has never seen it yet.
You are serious.To write so many words and tell the world about the truth.No hate,no fake news ,no pride and prejuduce.I support you.
@@juantayo5130 China had been a superpower country, but did not bully the world.
I'm Chinese, came to the UK as a child. I have now lived in the UK for 23 years - longer than I have lived in China. Having first hand experience from both societies, I think Martin's view on china and his understanding of chinese culture and history is by far the most accurate and fair. Thank you!
Respect to you Sir, Martin Jacques, You really know China to a great length than many western people do. Thank you for the great analysis.
There is a poem by Kipling about it www.poetrynook.com/poem/now-it-not-good-christians-health-hustle-aryan-brown
I am a proudly chinese from Taiwan, and thank you for the interview!! I wish the 817 thousand people in Taiwan can learn from you!!
Don't do propaganda
Didn't Martin Jacques mention 20 million or more people live in Taiwan ..
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@@margaretingleby679 24mils
One more proud Chinese on Taiwan here. Cross strait antagonism has been exaggerated. Like the Trumpets, it's usually the loudest and stinkest people that gets heard.
I can't think of another Western academic who really grasps China as well as Mr. Jacques does - are there any others?
kishore mahbubani, daniel dumbrill, cyrus janssen
David Harvey, Michael Hudson.
Kishore is def one, but he isnt totally from the western hemisphere. He was educated in singapore, which is very close to china
Han de van (Cambridge) for example
Deborah Brautigam is an excellent scholar regarding the relationship between China and Africa. Her work completely demolishes the 'debt trap diplomacy' that China is accused of
There are 20+ thousand mosques in China and many folds more than US or other Western countries.
24,000 or one mosque to every 500 Ugyhurs in Xinjiang!
@@tinatang1 NO country has more mosques than China. Those brainwashed are too naive to be fooled by the US and Western media.
@@jessyjames9242 You are right. Xinjiang has a mosque for every 500 muslims as Xinjiang alone has 24,000 mosques.
@Philosopher King Have you been to Xinjiang or are you repeating wild claims made by US politicians and mainstream media? 3 million people detained? Even 1 million is difficult to squirrel away from sight! Go visit Xinjiang like all the other Muslim nations and see for yourself! They come away praising Xinjiang authority for lifting all the families out of extreme poverty and for extending the life expectancy of the Ugyhur people from 30 years to 72 years in justc50 years.
@Philosopher King Don't you mean Chinese Gulags (slave labor camps).
China is not Caucasian is a factor in the geopolitical contest and it may also explain strong emotional reactions in Western countries to China’s rise.
Exactly!! Western criminals are having a fit! China is not western. This is the reason western powers are picking fights with China. Especially the United States.
Russia is Caucasian and it doesn't help them.
@@antoniorsoftwareRussia is not the West
I can speak for Americans - that's definitely an underlying factor, perhaps the KEY factor. America being #1, especially in military, is central to the American white male psyche and self confidence down to the individual level. I actually find it amusing how China brazingly demonstrates to the world how America is overrated.
@@MrVitconst people from the middle east, northern India, and north Africa are also considered Caucasian by the white man. They want to claim those dead civilizations as their past civilizations. You can tell by looking at the buildings in Washington D.C.. The white men in the government truly believed in their white supremacy.
Mr. Jacques is an outstanding scholar and unbiased opinions. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
But what if he spoke poorly of China? Would you have the same assessment?
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@@countdadcula4475 if he speaks from facts and support documents I would still respect him.
@@nancypoopongpaibul5642 much of what he says is accurate fact, and he is very knowledgeable. It's his biased opinions and assumptions which make him lose credibility. This is commonly acceptable in China, but not for rational free thinkers in the rest of the world. But kudos to the people of China for working so hard and reaping those benefits, they deserve the associated prosperity, just hope one day they can regain their intellectual freedoms as well. The moment China stops censorship of it's people is the moment it will become the world leader.
@@countdadcula4475 his opinions based on his findings we can accept whether it biases or not depending on each individual,readers or listeners. You and I may have different opinions based on our background and knowledge. It just happened that I agreed to most of his opinions. Thank you for your exchange opinions.
A phrase i came across goes something like this: The west learned the art of various important inventions from the Chinese, like paper, printing, gunpowder, compass etc, but they never learn the art of their governance system.
Yes...they have learned many things , ideas and copy so many things from China ..yet they still " Said China " has stolen or copy from them. China had never said things like that ..like stealing or copy ideas from China. It is everyone rights to learn, copy, develop and improve ideas from everyone...that is how everyone will progress. What a Shame to the US. to say that China or every countries copy or steal ideas from the US. They have been stealing ideas from so many countries from the very begining and developed it for their benefits and also claimed it is their ideas.
Welp, people are afraid of communism for no reason. I hope we all at least learn about what it is in the first place, the 1% elites certainly don't want communism to rise.
Btw, if anyone's going to say that the idea of communism is bad, no the system isn't bad, it's the people who are corrupted that fcked up, same to capitalism, the world is so corrupt right now.
Even if communism wouldn't work, socialism should be considered.
They actually did. Some components of the modern civil service of the government was based on what the past Chinese dynasties court system. But it is not in your interest to promote all these stuff, no one need to know that tea, apples/oranges, roses, rice originate from China. The west has no interest in the ethics/morals ( dao de jing ) but has an obsession with Sun Tze.
@@babicomel2469 China governance system is infact evolved over thousands of years, where only the smartest people that had passed rigorous tests can rise to become officials, ministers, etc. And only someone with integrity, righteousness can become leader.
They are hung up with certain ideologies and have never gotten out of it. The interviewer's apparent lack of self-reflection is an indication of that.
Martin Jacques' intellectual insights are inspired by his impressive knowledge of history. A real scholar of humanity and civilisation!
People don't understand what Han means. The Han dynasty existed roughly the same time as the Roman Empire. If the Roman Empire lasted till today, people from different regions would just be calling themselves Roman, instead of French, Spanish etc etc. So it is in China. The people of different regions speaking different languages just call themselves Han Ren (or people of Han). What are called the different dialects of Chinese, are as different as French from Italian from Romanian.
Great analogy
wrong！all the dialects are Chinese in writing.
@@mourenx4777 A huge advantage to Chinese. A common written language. And it's been simplified from the traditional. Still I find it amazingly hard still. Next exam HSK 3
@@mourenx4777
Han is never a single race. Chinese scripts is the cornerstone that hold all Chinese people together under one roof as a unified country.
@@mourenx4777 Only after Qin Shi Huang imposed the script of Qin (Chin) on the rest of the warring states. Just like how the French and Spanish and Italians all use the Latin script of their ancient conquerors today to write their respective languages.
I always learn something each time when I watch Professor Jacques’s speech. Thank you sir!
i know Im randomly asking but does anybody know a tool to log back into an instagram account??
I was stupid lost the password. I love any help you can offer me
Learning lots of bs from a White monky prof.
Great chat. Thanks for bringing Martin to talk about this topic
Thank you Martin for what you do.I’m in my 80’s now but now realize how little I knew re geopolitics.I accepted the basic premise that Russia and China bad and the West was all good.Not having had any TV for the last 10 years and watching streams like yours I certainly realize what’s happened in history and the destruction that empires have caused.I’m pleased to see China’s growth and prosperity and they will stand up to the Americans .Teaming up with Russia is also a good move.Hopefully the people in The USA and Britain can force a move to a multi party political system before it’s too far gone.
Very true Arne, a lot of people are still very "brainwashed" in the west.
The US and the west have done what the chinese have been trying for nearly 50 years pulling russia towards china.
We do live in a strange world and getting as time goes by.
What do you mean by 'move to a multi party political system'? That's what the west invented and has now, it's called democracy. China is a uni-party system rule from top down.
Strongly support Martin, great scholar.
Me too,
But I have to say, I 1st thought he looked like a bond villain.
From the thumbnail.
But actually IRL he seems like a such real great guy.
Martin makes no mention of rising Chinese debt in pursuit of GDP, demographic issues which mean it could get old before Rich. No mention of the new difficulties with America in trying to thwart it's influence or the coming conflict with Taiwan. It's not a given that China will overtake America as the worlds strongest state. Martin goes on about Chinese Civilisation while is dismissive about Western Civilisation as saying western countries have 'just' grown out of national civilisation. So the Ancient Civilisations of Greece, Rome and the follow on ones of Holy Roman Empire & Byzantium are irrelevant.... having no influence on the European countries of today.... rubbish! Just look at language, customs, religion and law. Example of the CCP narrative undermining the very cultural identity of the west as being inferior. Also at first says China has never expanded militarily like the west then goes on to say how western China was added to China through a series of wars. Though he does say lot things that I agree with so not all bad by a long way.
@@Andy-P Go study Chinese history before you fart from your mouth. Those western regions of China were originally Chinese territories from ancient time. Uyghurs were part of Mongol tribe and not the originally habitans of Xinjiang, so is Tibet!!
@@Andy-P TheUyghurs are nomad people from neighbouring countries who finally settled in Xinjiang some centuries ago.So they are squatters not owners of Xinjiang. Have you seen how squatters are treated in Myanmar?
@@josephli7548 That explain their treatment then. So even though they have been there centuries where should they go now?
The following is what I borrowed from a Malaysian UTuber’s comment: "Exactly Said"
I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In
those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never
once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca
five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of
Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized
Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642,
the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised
by each, one after another.
When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When
they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands.
The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan
Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan &
Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan
Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian
Empire.
Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China
to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around,
after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty
in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were
burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb
opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong
was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing
Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that
time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining
10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s
institutions were built with profit from opium.
After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really
greedy. The British wanted the Qing government:
1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely,
and tax free.
2. Make opium legal in China.
Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with
supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again,
China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and
threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was
forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of
silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out
freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent
amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as
labor.
In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of
Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA,
Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking
(Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were
raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums
like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris.
In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of
Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing
Massacre alone.
Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and
unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths
from famine and power struggles.
Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat”
story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed
China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to
the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to
ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually
practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy
model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China.
Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful
than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on
the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from.
In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from
poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have
built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail
network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure.
They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second
largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing
into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce
and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration
to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of
the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the
country has reached an unprecedented height.
For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it.
China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western
Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards
China.
Everything China does is negatively reported.
They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was,
Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the
profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the
labor.
They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time,
they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The
fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to
the US.
They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is
China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time,
the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority
Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for
university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the
US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US.
When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices:
1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists.
2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people,
bomb their homes.
China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How
the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from
the sky.
During the pandemic,
When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were
accused of being inhuman.
When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were
accused of lying about the actual numbers.
When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support
to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated.
Western Media always have reasons to bash China.
Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China
which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done
very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the
West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want
is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too
good.
Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the
opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs
(Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National
Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the
British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all
the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered
BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think
they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy,
which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world.
They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO &
banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one.
Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country.
USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always
buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars?
When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world
let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products,
like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and
Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never
match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to
continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want
to pull China down.
The recent movement by the US against China has a very important
background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar
in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned
by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money
out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely
accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be
traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded
in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will
sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this
order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed
crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad.
China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world.
I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel
happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they
belong. Good luck China.
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Well done ... !! Bless China Anna from Amsterdam. Holland
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I love this comment, keep reposting!!
Amazing interview, one of the best pieces I have seen about China in my entire life. Watch out Western world you are playing your cards very badly.
Hi Rene, to know the truth about the real China, you may check up independent bloggers who have and are still living in China for more than 10 years like CYRUS JANSSEN, DANIEL DUMBRILL, MATT and team from the GRAYZONE, Gweilo 60, Nathan Rich. RT America also offer very fair comments about China and other countries. Lastly Professors and Scholars like KISHORE MAHBUBANI who was a Scholar and Diplomats, Dean, etc....MARTIN JACQUES. They both knows US and China extremely well.
USA is the most powerful nation in the world, has been since 1945, and will be for another few decades
@@AW-zk5qb america might still have its negative hegemony effect on the world right now, but china will have double the GDP by 2030.
due to king rat trump the moron most of the world is already tuning out the US, and they clearly have lost most of the respect they gained though the terror they have spread.
@@renedesign5354 To be fair, I think Bush II did more to tarnish the US' image than Trump. Trump may be a bellicose asshole, but at least he didn't start two wars and occupations that have led (directly and indirectly) the the deaths of at least 2.3 million in the Middle East.
@@thechloromancer3310 they were both equally bad!!!
I stumbled upon this comment by Asha Vahishta and I thought it makes sense:
"The West has a deep misunderstanding of China's political system. Westerners often use authoritarianism to describe the leadership of the CPC. In fact, it should be called legal authoritarianism. Because its power is given by all the people from the bottom up. So if you want to sell Western-style democracy to China, all the people will not support it.
If you want to understand the reason more deeply, it may be traced back to the difference in social development, which is to return to the struggle between the king and the nobility.
In the West, the aristocracy made themselves the leader of the people, defeated the king, and gained power. Different aristocracy created different parties, and fought for power through the parties. This is the modern parliament in western democracy. The aristocracy in the past is now the consortium and big business.
In China, it was the king who made himself as the leader of the people, united the people and officials, defeated the aristocracy, and gained power. Since then, the king’s interests have been tied to everyone. The people here are not like the West, they are one, and they will sacrifice their own interests for collective interests, which is why China can overcome the epidemic so fast.
And this is why the Chinese will not accept Western democracy, because there is no aristocracy in this system to grab a lot of resources from the people. Westerners do not understand that actually this is a more advanced political system."
So well explained ! Thank you, 10 Delphi
Harvard study found that 94% Chinese support CPC. In actuality, 100% support it.
@@mboihk3796 I guess you are not including Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, or much of Xinjiang. Watch what would happen if China tries anything with Taiwan. They are now in the world's spotlight after they did so much better at dealing with the pandemic than Mainland China.
@@countdadcula4475 Hong Kong was higher. 95% Hongkongers support to be with mainland China. Tibet and Xinjiang are part of mainland and it was already included. Taiwan will always be part of China untill the end of the world. China is simply playing a delay game. The right time to fully acquired it will come someday. No western interference can stop it.
@@mboihk3796 China knows nothing of war compared to the US. And the free world will collectively fight to protect the island country of Taiwan. They may even replace China with Taiwan in the UN if China's CCP keeps biting at other countries heels. Oh, and no one in the world believes China's 'numbers' aside from the poor people of China who are forced to eat that garbage propaganda.
I am a Chinese citizen, studied in UK and worked briefly in US and EU. I am amazed by your knowledge and understanding about China. Thank you.
Free Hong Kong
... How's that working for the Muslims your communist leaders are forcing into concentration Camps?
@@spartakos3178 Look at this cute American, hate China, hate Muslims but somehow loves Muslims in China
@@LA-vy5bz Because when the Marxist commits atrocities... It's for the 'greater good'
Keep drinking the cool aid bub
@@spartakos3178 what are you talking about? LOL so you like greater bad I suppose
@@spartakos3178 it is blatant lie.
As a graduate of 2013-2014 from Defense and Strategy Course of CDS NDU PLA, his interview is the best part of my understanding on China and most informative than any lectures given in Chang Ping during my time there.
As a Chinese I can't fault Martin Jacques' knowledge about China. He would be someone most Chinese would admire and respected. His neutrality would make some Chinese ashamed of themselves of under-eductaed and under-informed.
His most distinguished achievement to me is his universal view of judgement. Many British would even regard him as unpatritotic because his judgement is based on historical facts and not poltics. I value his view based on the for goodness of humanity which is neither biased to the west nor the east..
As an update...many of the younger generations (under 30) in those outward regions like Xinjiang and Tibet are amalgamating into the general Chinese population. Doesn't mean they're all happy and prosperous (or even speak Mandarin well) but essentially, it's acceptable to that their own unique background is a part of the greater Chinese civilization. The identity issues are progressing to that point now. So overall...the window is closing for those anti-China critics to use those regions as a tool.
However, like Martin said, you have to see these things from a non-Western view. Because this is how most of Asia is like. Parts of India aren't really "Indian", nor do the locals look like the average Indian, yet are part of the greater Indian civilization...likewise in Russia, there are significant parts who aren't "Russian" on the outside, but are part of the greater Russian nation. The Iranian peoples, the Turkic peoples, Southeast Asia, etc. etc. The Arab world also have their own diversity in there too. The western concept of Race is but a small part of their greater fluidic identity in Asia.
So is myanmar... but their countrymen is so fuck up, and this has become the current affairs.
The amalgamation of China as expounded on by Mr. Marttin was not based on RACE but on CULTURE.
Question ... would it not be much better to let the Tibetans and Uighurs keep their own country rather than forcing them to intermix with the Han? I thought the Han are very proud of being ethnically distinct.
@@HR-yd5ib Long story short....going back to history which you can google yourself...Han is a fluidic concept which many people didn't know they were a part of until recently. Some knew since the last dynasty, but not many. Han is made up of so many groups of people themselves not part of the original Central Plains civilization started by the Shang 3,000 years ago. Anyways, it's not to criticize you specifically, but you should know if you are that interested. As for Tibetans and Uyghurs, they are made up of many different groups too, and like I said, many of the young generations, most of the post 80s/90s
generation and nearly all the post 2000s have amalgamated...meaning they still themselves as Chinese. So, this question you ask is already too late.
@@wolf-man-bear-pig-torque , I guess one would have to look at 23 and me data to confirm this. But i guess my question was misplaced. Would like the input from a Han Chinese on this.
Martin is one of the few scholars really understands china and also not afraid to speak about.👍
He doesn’t know a thing about modern China, he can’t even speak Chinese and he’s never lived long in China. All he’s done is read lots of communist propaganda and history books. China today is more like Nazi Germany than anything from its history before Mao
@@user-up3dj3dh5e By judging your comment, Martin knows China more than you😆
@@user-up3dj3dh5e 差不多得了😅
Comparing the US and China, the American people and culture totally opposite. The Americans cannot compete with the Chinese in terms of discipline hard working and saving. Bashing do no good, it is better to cooperate and work together for world humanity.
What you said about freedom of speech n elect politicians are just illusion. There's no difference at all between Democrats n Republicans . You are only been given who to vote for by the Deep State Government. The choice is just a concorded delusion.
The US competes with strength, ingenuity, and resilience. Both need each other and I agree they would do best to cooperate but the moment China touches Taiwan, all bets will be off.
@@countdadcula4475 Haven't you heard of the phrase "Yanks go home." Its none of the US f..k...g business in relation to Taiwan which is part of China. The US will be annihilated if it choose to be a busy body. It thinks it is the world Police but Police they are not. The US is just the biggest terrorist on earth.
We need an alien invasion for that to happen.
I think China still has long way to go. From extreme poverty to decent income is a long journey. China is focusing on development and improving people's lives. The influence is different types of influence.
U wish.
@@blackiemwe1481 it's fact you can see, not wish. At least China didn't bomb anybody since it literally trying to complete its unity.
Yeah We know that. We Chinese people have been living in difficulties, even if it takes several generations of efforts, will not stop our determination to move forward. The better life gives people hope and motivation to keep going.😉
@@chriswestwood3289 well put
It is focusing on development, Yes. Improving people’s lives. Not really. Otherwise, Chinese people would not try to migrate to Australia and Canada in droves every year.
Thanks for a so great interview! I have learned a lot from Martin Jacques.
Martin is one of those journalists and scholars who deserves great respect. He has insisted on speaking the truth, on what he really studied and think about China, especially in an atmosphere that many most influential western media are trying their best defamation on China.
Truth-telling and sticking to professional ethics is the easiest thing, but it's also the hardest thing in the current time.
Always a treat to listen to Martin Jacques!
Listen to a ccp supporter 😂
@@elon6784 So ?
@@elon6784 CPC is just a baby; only just starting, so get used to it.
@@elon6784 You prefer listening to Trump?
Love it love it love it!!! Give me that indoctrinated sinophobic SALT!!!! y'all really sustain me, lol
Martin is absolutely right about genocides. Colonisation in itself was intrinsically genocidal.
The North American first nations would strongly agree.
Another mind blowing interview with the author of When China Rules the World, Martin Jacques. His indepth knowledge & understanding of China is amazing. Perhaps @BBCNews could interview @martjacques to broadcast a truer and realistic China today?
Even if that were to happen, BBC will never broadcast it. Anything good that is spoken of China cannot be true according to them.
This video provides a meaningful information about China that will open the minds of a lot of people, should they are willing to do so.
If only the western leaders would listen to him and co and try to understand China.
@@tanngoh6044 The West feel superior to other races due to their history. Expecting them to understand China is far-fetched.
By pointing out the differences between Western and Chinese culture, political systems, economy and civilisations Martin Jacques has helped me to better understand the causes of the current tensions between the western powers and China. Thanks for your insightful discussion.
Yes, you are right. Esp on the Authority Obedience Cultures of East Asians : Japanese, Chinese and Koreans. To the Wests, its called Totalitarian and Authoritative Dictators. To us, we are culturally trained since young to manage our Head of the Household from our Family and the Company. Its as easy as ABC for Japanese, Chinese and Koreans. Its our Cultures, of course we know how to manage . I am sure all ethnic Chinese know the : Close one-eyed, Open One-eye, one ear in, one ear out, the so-called Chinese Management Theories. Tell the West : Open one-eye, close one-eye, open one-ear, close one-ear to the West. They will be so excited and say : No, the Chinese should not behave in such low manners. you must know what is Free Speech , blah, blah, blah.. Come on, we are so cool and calm because we are trained so young. They are not brought up with this Cultures and hence make a big fuss out of it.
I always "scour" the internet for new Martin Jacques vlogs. Can't wait for the next one. But I agree with the other public comment that his book "when China RULES the World", the word RULE had created "paranoia", animosity in the west against chinese, including asians who happen to look chinese, not understanding that Martin meant the word as a metaphor.
If you’re talking about Chinese culture and history and the nations character for foreign scholar nobody better than Mr. Martin Jacques
What if he talked about things that he considers backward in Chinese culture?
@@avatarion backward culture?? you mean Hollywood females stars wearing fishing nets?/
Very informative Interview ! The West still has a long way to make sense of China. Thanks for sharing your perspective, Prof. Jacques !
In my view and contrary to the view of many, that the West/US failed to "understand" China and therefore their hostility towards China.
I think they understand China too well and that a strong and powerful China would dilute their own grip on the world. And that would be unsavoury for them to accept after nearly 3 centuries of the whitemen's domination of the world.
Martin is first class on the subject of the World order and about China. The questions posed by the interviewer is very fair and well thought through. Martin speaks the truths. About Martin’s demise, I feel for his loss and the circumstances of which racism was cited in his wife’s death in Hong Kong. I live in London, I too have felt similar treatment being at the receiving end like Hari, Martin’s late wife. I agree, racism is systemic in most countries and should be spoken about. Thanks 🙏
Anyone who claims China had "Han" supremacy knows nothing about "Han" and really pisses me off.
China, or the central part of China, has always distinguished itself from its surrounding with 3 things: infrastructure, technology, and culture. These were established during the first 3 dynasties -- Xia, Shang, and Zhou
Ever since the Zhou dynasty, a distinction of the "Middle Kingdom" from the rest was established, based on the superior infrastructure, technology, and culture of the Middle Kingdom.
Note that the concept of "Han" came much later, near the end of the Song dynasty, when it was ravaged by Mongolians and the people at that time dreamed of the glory of the Han dynasty and identified themselves as such. Before that time, Chinese couldn't care less about ethnicity.
Today, "Han" has been used by the West to promote their own racism.
Here here. You could say that "Han" has always been a unifying, and encompassing identity based on culture and tradition rather than one that excludes and discriminates.
If we're going by periods, I think China is probably in its 7th era under the Sun...starting with Western Zhou to Han, Tang, Song, Ming, High Qing and current times. Might even be the 8th if we include parts of Shang dynasty when it was the local hegemon, but it's stretching. Even the dark periods had some golden moments too...like the flourishing of Chinese philosophies and strategic thinking in the Spring and Autumn/Warring States era. The memorable and creative art, poetry and stories from the bloody 3 Kingdoms period and chaotic Jin/Northern-Southern dynasties. There was also some important academic contributions made in the tragic late Qing/Republican era. Chinese history should be looked at in its entirety, not just the good parts.
I also thing Qin is another, no matter how short it last, it is a glorious period with so many advancements in so many aspects, history should remember that.
@@rishsab1316 All the short periods were quite interesting in their own right.
@@rishsab1316 the standardization of wheels, roads, measurements, writings, centralization of government bureaucracy and military are all introduced during the Qin period. There wouldn't be a unified China if there're no Qin that unified everything.
@@limitlesssky3050 exactly，according to historians, the concept of a unified China, or Huaxia, as a civilization and a nation was first raised by Zhou Dynasty, Qin is the one who realized it in practice for the first time.
Martin explained history of China and the West so brilliantly!
One of the most informative n honest discussion I’ve had the pleasure of watching n learning from. I wish our political, economic n educational leaders can have such raw n honest discussions......good job.
I’m amazed by the arguments of the journalist. All minorities can reivindícate a part of the land where they live as an independent country? So, let’s talk about the Chinese diaspora, which account about 60 millions people around the world. Should they reivindícate all Chinatowns they live in? In San Francisco, in Malasya, in Philippines, in Singapore, in Indonesia, in New York in London? So I ask, which part of Australia belongs to the Australian natives people in Australia? What part belongs to Maoris in New Zealand? What part of USA belongs, as an independent territory, to natives tribes?
And what about the cultural genocide of all the territories of the world where European colonialist came, invade a conquered? 48 countries have English as oficial language: Why? Is this not a cultural genocide?
Once China is strong enough bully the West, maybe that isn't such a bad idea, lol. Joking of course, because what's unfortunate is that ultimately it's up to the West to make sure people living in their societies doesn't feel any need to secede or stage a revolution no matter their creed or race but unfortunately I'm not sure if the West is still capable of doing this.
The Host guy is completely disappointed with what Martin is describing about China. I think he started the show thinking that Martin is going to demonize China and it turns out to be the opposite. :-))
Agree. He trying so hard to draw a negative comment.
I think the host must have done his research and would know Martin Jacques' views on China. And I do think the host is really trying to understand; answering his own suspicions about China like most Westerners. That's a good start.
Perhaps he's just playing Devil's advocate to make show more interesting
The Host is not interrupting Martin or arguing a lot about inconsequential details as some hosts do. What is wrong with asking difficult questions?
Novara media is pretty disappointing over all, they pretend to be independent news, but somehow end up repeating all the establishment and MSM talking points in their programs.
1:05:02 new book is coming!!! Best news I’ve heard today!!!! Can’t wait 😊
2023 😎
When I was in college decades ago, my professor said this is the white men's world, I was laughing inside and thinking he is ignorant in world history.
Tibetans and Uighurs live better than most Americans. That's human rights.
Really? Why does Chinese government say that China is a developing country and America is a developed country. Xinjiang and Tibet are poor (less developed) regions.
@@7tuv Actually America is an overdeveloped colonial empire that is now collapsing and all the rats are sinking with the ship, and that's why there so much debt, homelessness, Covid deaths, violence and murder. If you've ever been to Xinjiang or Tibet you would find that they are noble traditional communities and have a tremendous grace and happiness you just don't see in America. Probably much like the Native Americans were before the white colonists wiped them out with Small Pox, the Flu, Gonorrhea, syphilis and the Winchester rifle.
I don’t think that people in Beijing or Shanghai (maybe overdeveloped) want to live in Xinjiang or Tibet ‘happily’. I don’t think that South Koreans want to live in North Korea ‘happily’, either.
I hope that Western world has more true experts like Mr Jacques. For Western countries, especially US, still majority people live in an obsolet echo chamber without realization. very sad that they can not face the hard core fact or create their alternative truth like trumpy crowd.
The first country Deng Xiao Ping visited is Singapore. From there everything changes.
Thank you Martin! Great conversation with good historical knowledge about China. Dieing for your new comming book.
Good questions and a good interview. Well done and a thumbs up from me.
🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍 for Martin Jacques.
Martin Jacques should definitely watch Cyrus Janssen on RUclips. Cyrus Janssen once mentioned that a Chinese native came up to him and was impressed by the fact that he, as an American citizen, could vote for the president. In the Chinese person's mind, he thought it would take a lot of research and decision-making, but Cyrus Janssen just responded to the Chinese person and to the audience that in America, voting is like a popularity contest. The average person doesn't want to listen to Hillary Clinton, an eloquent politician, about boring topics. They want someone like Donald Trump simply because he's entertaining and popular. That's how you win America's votes. You have to appeal to the dumb and uneducated, the common man.
While democracy has definitely worked for many countries, it really should not be the end-all-be-all for all nations, Cyrus Janssen pointed out.
In general, Chinese embraces, respects and appreciates cultural differences. Whereas, some groups in the West seem to exert hate on cultural differences. This may be a reason why they could not or do not want to understand that racism issue, in general, does not exist as vastly as on their own lands.
Martin is an enlightened person. 👍
You think Chinese are not racist?? Seriously??
@@gregbrogan9061 I don't know about others but I won't be racist as long as others are not racist to me
@@傻逼-o6r - It doesn't seem like you even understand the concept of racism.
@@gregbrogan9061 it's just spitting or doing random shit for no reason other than someone not being one of your
Very educative and informative at the same time. Great discussion. If one-third of the American leaders are as knowledgeable as Martin Jacques, the world would certainly have been a better place.
@Gongzheng Yao I wish that is true, but honestly doubt that they knew the reality. For example, many of them didn't realise China and India have more than 2000 years of history. Compare that to the 250 years of the so called western history. More power to peace loving Asian countries.
@Gongzheng Yao I don't agree with you. I believe the old generation of US leader were willing to learn Chinese and think-tank were willing study Chinese from Chinese history and culture. But it seem not for current leaders and think-tank.
thank you Professor Jacques. Amazing summary of today's issues
2023 will usher in Martin Jacque ‘s second epic book on China, a sequel to his first, “When China Rule the World.” Even by 2023, readers can see whether Martin is prophetic or just a one hit wonder. Stay tune.
Invaluable learning from Mr. Martin Jacques! I believe Aaron Bastani came out of this session illuminated!
Martin puts a most compelling argument.....damned good interview. Th interviewer himself is no slouch..he has completed good background work in order to both question Martin's views and opinions and also to draw out his views in a way that is challenging and constructive. Highly recommended viewing.
Yes, exactly. Aaron is always very well-researched and perceptive.
You need to read "the Eastern rise of Western civilization" to understand how small the West is in terms of human civilization history
The name of the book is The Eastern Origins of Western Civilisation.
I am a malaysian. i have been to china since 1999. i can see how china has been transformed both economically, technologically and infrastructure improvements.
A great interview, thank you.
The Han Chinese have flowed into the world, but in China, in addition to the Han Chinese, there are 55 local ethnic groups, all with their own territories and their own languages.
many of those minorities in china didnt exist.there were only 5 nations before cpc took control.
they learned soviet to recognize as many as they could.however,most of those have been mixed with han for about 1k yrs.
and han is also a big mix of all kinds.
so today in china the minorities similar to han together with han could make up about 98% of its population.
terrorism issue was mainluy caused in border area with afganstan.in a tiny oasis.
so in main part of china.minorities do not have the conception of territory like that in socttland.
they naturally think they r chinese.even they r living abroad.
Yes, ethnic minorities will get extra points in the college entrance examination. This has always been my envy
What a great interview! Martin Jacques has an extensive knowledge of China's history and it is well worth the time to listen and learn something about China from Professor Martin Jacques.
You are the most smartest scholar than the most in China.您比中国大多数的学者都更明智，预见了我们不敢想象的前景。
最让我惊讶的是看了他那么多访谈，竟然没有一句话显示出那种大多数西方学者持有的对中国的偏见
Thank you for bringing this unbiased interview!
I have learnt many things and will learn many things in future from respected scholar Martin Jacque so thanks
Excellent guest! Good interview.
Thank You Martin and suprise that the 1969 13 May riot was noted. Indeed, it was terrible even then I was in Singapore.
Thank you Martin. Learn alot from you about my motherland. I feel ashamed knowing so little.
Thanks Martin for your insights, as always
I think Lee Kuan Yew contributed to the change of Deng Xiaoping.
You are 100% correct!
Indeed today’s Chinese model is a magnified further developed model based on Singapore sampling model.
Deng abstracted the philosophy and psychology of nation building on the tenets of our founding Father LKY, the world knows it. Except China’s Vastness in land, natural resources, and population has made it so spectacular!
In fact, PM Lee Kuan Yew did mention to Deng Xiao Peng that if Singapore can do it, China will do better as Singapore's migrant from China were coastal fishermen and farmers from South China while Deng has all the Scholars n Mandarins in Beijing.
Yes, this is in Lee Kuan Yew's latest book.
J MARTIN THE GREAT !!!
On point and I love this discussions thank u gentlemen 👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿👏🏼🥰🇦🇺
along with Prof Richard Wolff (his channels I subscribed a long time), Martin Jacques is accurate and truthful, which the WESTERN WORLD SHOULD PAY ATTENTION/LEARN. The truth is also told on these channels : Nathan Rich, Cyrus Janssen, Barrett, Jerry Goode, the Jayoe nation, Numuves, Living in China, FerMuBe, Daniel Dumbrill, and Difference frames the world + CGTN.
You should check out BayArea415 and Real Xingjing as well. Some great stuff there.
Given the American propensity to pass judgment on other countries, this may be difficult. But the Biden administration should consider not insulting China for two reasons. First, even today, America is the only country that insults China. No other government in the world does so. In such a context, it is not China that will look isolated. America will.
Second, the public insults of China feed an unconscious strain in the Western body politic that could seriously complicate Sino-American relations: the fear of the “yellow peril.” This fear has surfaced from time to time, contributing to the rise of anti-Asian violence in America.
correction: it is the Biden regime.
Great conversation Professor! I truly enjoyed it. I can´t wait for your new book.
Thank you Jacques and Martin for being analytical, neutral and objective. Amazing interview.
Professor Jacques it was a pleasure listening to you speak about the history of China. You have a very good understanding of the complexity of China.
Usa is lending money for years from china to stay afloat.. so china is already nr1
Martin has the best interpretation of China that is beyond the comprehension of most scholars and politicians.
And I enjoyed your chat very much!
Britain has hope because you still have scholars like Martin and the host. Brilliant minds.
As I see it, only time will tell if what China hoped for Africa and Eurasian landmass could repeat what she had done to herself. I believe, China has dealt very positively on the impact of infrastructure on her economic progress. With such an approach on the Eurasian landmass and Africa, she has offered similar approach though the progress in Africa could be a little slower whereas in the Eurasian landmass, the progress has been better with both the middle powers of Iran and Turkey and a little later Pakistan being rail linked to China. With a little more progress, the rail based connectivity could be a game changer. Remember when China first proposed the East-EU rail link, many thought it was madness! But the volume has increased since then.
Some 20 years ago, China reportedly had to spend 29% of her GDP on total logistics cost, to-day it is reported by WB at 14.6%. For a economy of US15 Trillion, it means a "saving" of 1% would mean a saving of US150 Billion! the overall saving since then would be some US 2.19 Trillion since then! Hence, one should not be surprised that she will continue to improve her internal logistics connectivity together with the BRI concept!
To Mr. Martin Jacques interviewer: I don't think you have been to China and If you come to you will be better informed for it.
If you'd watched any of Aaron's work before or Novara media at all you would know he is in no way biased against China or a Western imperialist. Aaron is a communist; he's even written a book on it.
Capabilities of Reinventing itself. That's epic and historic 👍👍
Martin please translate your book to farsi for iranians.lt is seriously necessery.
Many Iranians and Pakistanis are learning Chinese.
China builded 3,000 beds hospital in Wuhan only in 10 days.
Wow...🙏
For those looking for a date when China became the most influential country in the world I would say this:
Anchorage marks the official start of China’s leadership of the world.
China & America are at Equal Position as of Today
- Wall Street Journal
@@dalitshiv834 As if investers are to be believed. The question should be how much is China in debt and how much the us.
@@mariadamen7886 true question is. Who owns more productive assets including technology. US is still ahead but China is a place for great innovations