Why is the EU so interested in the Indo-Pacific? | DW News
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- Europe has always been involved with Asia, and now it wants to be even more. Trade is the main area it wants to develop, and improving technology, connectivity and security also form parts of its offering to the region. These are set to be discussed at a forum to be held in Paris. It will bring together foreign ministers of EU member states and some 30 countries in the area known as the Indo-Pacific. It encompasses the countries located around the Indian and Pacific Oceans.
They account for three-fifths of the world’s population, are central to global value chains and produce almost 60 percent of global GDP.
That and Chinese assertiveness in the region has sped up the adoptions of Indo-Pacific strategies by not just the EU, but also the Netherlands, Germany and France.
Ahead of the forum, DW's Sonia Phalnikar interviewed France's Ambassador to the Indo-Pacific Christophe Penot.
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Trade is good, but please don't meddle on our political sovereignty. And please do not dictate us regarding on how we manage our country. Love from the Philippines. 🇵🇭🇪🇺
Lmao dont come crying for assistance on fighting off Chinese aggression then
Here is hoping that good things will out of this.
Love from France 🇨🇵🇪🇺🇵🇭
@@andrewmendoza116 So you want the EU to dictate your country's policies due to fear of chinese aggression? Why don't you submit yourselves back to Spain while you're at it also.
Why on Earth would Europe want to meddle in your politics ?
@@Leopold_van_Aubel Good question! Go ask your own(EU) politicians.
The Indo-Pacific is the future of the worlds growth and development.
It's likely.
Time has come to consider "South Asian Security treaty organization " or "SASTO"or "SACSTI" for "South Asian cooperation & security treaty initiative" which will consists all the Asian country to the south which shares the land mass by the Sea from Japan to Yemen.
They are interested in Indo Pacific to stop the development of this area and to stop rise of the yellow peril.
@@jerrynaga5917 Why would we want that ?
What's the yellow peril even ?
They want global dominance and won't let a non-white country take over. India is the weak collaborator to keep colonialists and imperialists in power. The colonial foot soldiers
INDO-PACIFIC begins with INDIA. Only France has been a genuine and trustworthy partner to India. The rest of the EU has behaved like a pendulum. Any alliance against China is a non-starter if domestic politics dictate FOREIGN POLICY. EU must learn from the failures of the US foreign policy and engage with India and other Indo-Pacific countries based on shared "interests" and NOT INVOLVE THEMSELVES IN THEIR INTERNAL MATTERS.
India has equipment made by the USA and Russia so neither side trusts India with the top end equipment in case its handed over to the other side
'the rest of the EU'.. like who???
They are interested in Indo Pacific to stop the development of this area and to stop rise of the yellow peril.
@@LeMerch EU is signing free trade deal with India. And it is second largest economy in Asia in term PPP after china so
Ya India is important for the West.
No matter if West bark against India through thier media
Now
West conditions is just like a d०g. In 21 century
@@graveperil2169 Actually, India gets the best weapons from Russia.
Sad to say, but India cooperates a lot with Russia. Then, India do with any other country.
From Hypersonic weapons, to space, to fifth fighter planes, etc. And literally anything.
In short, India US relations is very new and it's not the level as Russia India relations.
India does have weapons from both countries. But India don't have access to F-35 or best American weapons. But on the hand, India works with Russia to make best weapons in the world. This includes Hypersonic weapons like Brahmos 2, however both countries have different projects too. One is HSTDV and Zircon.
Or fifth generation fighterplanes. India was a part of FGTA but India decided to get out of it and decided to create it's own fifth aircraft.
None of the western countries and even US is as close as Russia to India. Russia is on another level.
Germany has show how useful it is for security with the way it supported Ukraine
Lol
They are interested in Indo Pacific to stop the development of this area and to stop rise of the yellow peril.
The whole point of NATO is to keep the Americans in the Russians out and the Germans down
Blaming the germans for weak response is flogging a dead horse because the system is working exactly as designed
@@vinniechan r u German I am just interested u are spot on by the way
@@vinniechan But not paid enough for by Germany.
Fun Fact : French ambassador hoping to slowly restaure relationship with Australia…. France just sold this month submarines and fighter jets to Indonesia the main neighbour of Australia . Ouch
Great move
They are interested in Indo Pacific to stop the development of this area and to stop rise of the yellow peril.
The funny thing is Indonesia will only receive the first 6 in 2026 which is a long time while Greece ordered and received the Rafales in the first year.Indonesia should not trust the West.
@@jerrynaga5917 France is interested by this Area because France is in this Area :)
@@esashaik1372 dumb comment , Indonesia ordered Rafale F-4 and Greece Rafale F-3 .. the American Boeing can’t even deliver F15 Ex in Indonesia before 2027. That’s Why Indonesia ordered in First French Rafale
Many countries on Indo-Pacific/Asia-Pacific region were surely still have strong suspicions towards EU because some of the countries in there used to become the former colonies from some EU members. Sure enough any slight of signs that EU wants to dictate their will to the region especially in terms of natural resources will make every moves from EU falls apart to the pieces. Also, EU still facing trade dispute on WTO against some countries in the region for resources like palm oil, nickel, etc. So i'm not sure EU will able to plant influences on the region before those disputes were settled.
How funny they think all their works wouldnt backcfired to them
@@raeadrianmorales9676 The past is the past, no one in Europe thinks that way.
Also, climate change will one day drown all of these island nations, and also democracy is superior to dictatorships.
Go to CPC YT and write comments against them:)
Doesnt change the fact that they are the seed of serpent
@@MaxWnner .
Why is the EU so interested in the Indo-Pacific? I think this is a rather silly question. Why? Because the three countries listed here, Germany, France and the Netherlands, had been active colonizers of the region in question. In fact, France still has colonies in this region. France holds three territories in the South Pacific-New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna, and French Polynesia.
Dutch's colonization of Indonesia wasn't something it could wax lyrical about. Only recently Dutch PM apologize to Indonesia for the brutal treatments it handed out to Indonesians. In fact, none of the three colonizers could wax lyrical about their colonization in the said region.
By why are the new-found enthusiasm? China of course. When America realized that its adventures in the Middle East and Central Asia are going nowhere fast, it decide that perhaps South-East Asia is a new place to spread its influence. Barack Obama made that decision even before Trump decided to pull out of the Middle East and Afghanistan. Again, China is the X-factor. It is not unusual that Europe follows America in almost everything it does. So South-East Asia, here they come.
Pretty good analysis, although one thing is not true, EU agendas differs from US agendas, I don't think Europe follows everything American does. Germany got sanctioned by the US before and the US had also tapped into Merkel's phone before which seems there a lack of trust there. And French president Macron just had a meeting with Xi last Wednesday before his current presidential term is about to end, And ofc there is the AUKUS which the French really hates.
@@rollingdownfalling Well, thank you. Much appreciated. I do agree with you that Europe's stars aren't lined up with the American, however, they didn't want America to have it all its ways in the region in question. While Europe, bar a few minion nations which wanted to please America in order to receive more aid, do not see tangible benefits in making life even harder for China,
like America. Europe has its own self interests to mind too. The fact that Europe trades intensely with China demonstrates a symbiotic relationship between the two blocs with very different systems of governance. While Europe doesn't want, nor see good reason to dominate China, America is very different, as it has done so since the end of WWII.
The way I see it, Europe wants to maintain a presence to tell the world that it is still relevant, which it has always been, I doubt that it will repeat the colonization ways like in the past.
America, on the other hand, still believes that it is the toughest hombre on the block. While some people are now having doubts about that, but keeping up appearances is very important in international relations.
@@WalkOverHotCoal Well, America's key word is containment. Quite the imperialist in my opinion. Regarding Europe, I think your view on Europe is a little dated with exception to UK, because UK is more transatlantic instead of European in terms of Geopolitics.
@@rollingdownfalling Containment is the appropriate description for America and its "like minded" allies. When Barack Obama saw the writing on the wall that the Afghan war wasn't going to be one America could do a song and dance about, he shifted gear and decided that S-E Asia is going to be the new playground for America. The Middle East and Afghanistan were proving to be way too hard and expensive to hang around, and the fact that America simply couldn't get a monopoly on the oil reserves in the Middle East.
But Obama isn't as smart a thinker as he believe he is. For a start, he made disparaging put down on Russia, calling it "a mid-range power. A smaller, weaker country than the US". What Obama didn't understand was that to disparage and insult a sovereign nation will only make them a more determined enemy. Anyone who plays sports knows that you don't want to provoke your opposition. I believe that he also underestimated China's just as he did to Russia. He thought America could simply walk in, plant a flag, and China will scurry off. What America doesn't understand is that while it was busy burning money in Afghanistan, China was building trade relationships and influence in S-E Asia. The recent hyper-activities by Australia is a clear case in point. Australia is, and has been a useful helper for America in the S-E Asian and the South Pacific region, competing for influence by sending in aid and blocking China's access to important telecommunication infrastructures.
One would be naive to believe that China's presence in S-E Asia is benign, and neither should one believes that America and Europe's are harmless.
Germany hasn't been an active colonizer in the region, or rather they were only briefly.
Fyi, the main colonizers of the Indo pacific were the Portuguese (later replaced by the Dutch), the Spanish (later replaced by the USA), the French and the British.)
In any case this is now mostly irrelevant, European empires made sense due to mercantilism and monopolies over goods (spices for exemple.) The modern EU is completely opposed to that and is mostly promoting free trade. Why now ? Well first because the Indo-pacific is economically on the rise, and second because like you pointed out, the EU is wary of Chinese ambitions.
They are interested in Indo Pacific to stop the development of this area and to stop rise of the yellow peril.
Divide and rule opportunity exist in this region
Europe still think that they're the Colonial master of this region, the truth is western countries dont invest that much here, 🇨🇳 is the only country that care enough to invest.
Dumb comment , for example France just invested $27 billions in Mozambique.
@@legiopatrianostra4702 Mozambique? We're talking about indo pacific not Africa
@@americanidiotinchief259 are you dumb ? Indo Pacific is meaning Indian Ocean + Pacific Ocean , Mozambique is along Indian Ocean 😂
@@legiopatrianostra4702 sure when EU has its eyes on this region it meant some countries in east Africa
Chineseee botttttttttttt
I wonder what the Vietnamese think of France suddenly being "the good guys" And French Polynesia? The Dutch are no princes in the region either!
The Vietnamese kind of like French people generally.
Nah that was a long time ago. Europe isn't the Europe we know back then.
this interview gets a lot more interesting when you realize 'indo-pacific' is code word for this man's butt
serious security challenges requiring a multidimensional approach...
"Partnership" for the EU always means the EU desiring to gain the upper hand in negotiations with anyone. On the other hand for example, the UK is currently negotiating to trade with Indo-Pacific countries by joining the CPTPP. There will be no political union involved, unlike Britain's past relationship with the EU, pre-Brexit, where the EU tried to dominate everything. UK now free to genuinely cooperate trade-wise with whoever.
I understand it can be hard (and very boring) to go over non-abstract elements of such deals, but it would have been good to have some concrete informations about what is being discussed at the Paris summit.
It is not complicated. Governments that have overseen the destruction of their economies are gathering together to decide what parts of the world they can exploit to their own narcissistic economic benefit. It doesn't matter that in the past these countries have exploited the same victims.
Wow... the pacific nations never was having this much attention... 😁 since China make it's move.. 😂😅..
0:35 Wrong Indian map. 1 dislike for that. POK and Aksai Chin are Indian territories.
Europe has only colonised Asia, no more!
EU and Europe and NATO must stay in their region now.
Times have changed and so the same must be realised at NATO and Europe's end too!
*Otherwise, Europe will miserably fail!*
They are interested in Indo Pacific to stop the development of this area and to stop rise of the yellow peril.
@@jerrynaga5917 yeah,,,the EU don't want fair competetion ,,,, they always greedy ,,, they want control S.E.A indo pacific region ,,,,
@@gintantovski2517 yes, not to stop us, but to slow down our pace therefore they can control us. the best move is making them thinking that they are controlling us 😄
EU realized they can't put there fruits in one basket and truth EU and US created a factory for cheap labour but now that factory is making money and that money is used for making weapons against them self so know they wants to create multiple baskets but it's already to late
EU too late..china is already leading asean in terms of business. EU products are expensive
therefore I think the EU's will set up and secure logistics or their production line in IndoPacific. not only to sell their goods to IndoPacific
China will dominate in business and trade in the Indo Pacific Region . EU, NATO and USA is not happy about that. They will lost their influence in the Region.
With the situation in Ukraine, Europe hopefully realises that the other side has already started the second Cold War.
We need to engage even more than we do with likeminded partners in every corner of the world, countering countries like Russia and China.
ASEAN is a great place to start.
keep dreaming, ASEAN's most important trade partner is China, their supply chain is heavily linked to China's
China also have several rock solid allies in ASEAN
@@obsidianstatue China’s not everywhere in Indo Pacific .. There are rooms for all :)
They are interested in Indo Pacific to stop the development of this area and to stop rise of the yellow peril.
@@jerrynaga5917 ooh really ? Why China reduced these last years investments in eastern Africa ?
China has developed Africa in the last 15 years than any other country in the last 100 years. The colonialists and imperialists are there to plunder its resources, not to develop Africa
Indo Pacific dominating by india because of geopolitics advantage
Lakhsya dweep and andman nicobar r comes in the under india
Like- China only can beat America in south china sea region
So that india is the 6th nuclear submarine countries {veto power} countries in the world
India don't have veto rights in the UN... And no, China, Japan and perhaps Indonesia are the key player in the Asia pacific...
@@arifnasfi801
Asia Pacific
Propoganda
It's a indo Pacific not asia pacific 😡😡😡
@@manishgautam9988 Still, not changing the fact that it's ONLY China who has strong point at the UN because they have the veto rights, India don't have it,and nuclear capabilities also superior than India...
@@arifnasfi801
100 nuclear bombs enough for world and u r saying china have more nuclear capabilities
So india is/was/will dominate indo Pacific
There is no need of veto bcs we have Russia
@@manishgautam9988 China owns Russia economically now... That's why I always said it's India that need to be smart to how to fit the picture between two of them...
This makes me think of NATO whose main purpose to single out Russia. This time their target is China. Countries sensitive to their own values and security always acts in the expense of the values and securities of other countries.
It's quite logical
Countries there still have many growth potential of developing countries while their legal and infrastructure are a bit more mature
Maneuvering for dominance in our tiny petri dish.
YEP
okay then, that's why they (Netherlands) urge to declared an apologize to us (Indonesia) in early this year. in my point of view
Belt and road = bait and rope ➰
The reason is that 🇨🇳 is growing its influence in the region and is going to push american out, European power in the end will abide by what america say, so the key is for 🇨🇳 to eventually beat america in a war
Which is never gonna happen. What is the dream of China. No one really understand the coming threat, see only money and investment. just like deal with drugs dealer. One day will pay huge price.
Lol do you think europeans aren’t in this Area ? France alone has larger exclusive economic zone in Indo Pacific than whole China with all the stolen atolls 😂 …
@@jasonliu1126 the threat is coming from those who keep saying that china is a threat, the truth is china is only a threat to western domination
@@dominationsrebellion6433 LoL what France can offer, china can offer more, how much investment in this area actually come from the west?
Myanmar was a democratic county for about a decade but very few investment actually came from the west
@@americanidiotinchief259 India the next super power in this area, How much ? Indonesia , a next future power, How much ?
EU with all its empty talks
The problem with this EU Indo-Pacific forum is that it is led by EU and all other participants are secondary in importance. It is like the colonialists deciding on what is best for each Indo-Pacific country and everything seen through racial lenses. Besides, China is EU's biggest trading partner so without China the forum is pointless.
because they need indopacific corridor to securely trades with China, in my opinion 😅
interesting... so china is "partner, competitor and systemic rival as china does not pursue same vision of international order".. so one would wonder, what kind of order? who gives order? and ... how do france see the other south east asian countries?
Russia is one of the most important Pacific Ocean nations. Vladivostok is one of the most important cities and ports on the Pacific.
Yes, EU can contributes hugely but you have to control China’s bullying behavior first.
Don't lie to us
Because indo Pacific is the best place to go after the war hahahhahahahahahah
😂😂😂😂 if they're interested then they should invest more in the region, the truth is 🇨🇳 is the only country care to invest in poor developing countries
U need to take care of the yellow vest 💛 first,u can't do all that
Trade with interference is not good Mr. You better think twice of what you think. Clean your hands first before teaching pacific traders on what to do. You have been eaten by your superiority.
It’s time to move trade dominance away from China. Chess move
Lol Europe wants China to be the factory and keep producing cheap goods
@@siddeshnaik2296 not for long
@@malignm1857 yeah no thank id rather do trade with china than the hypocrite europeans.
yes, the unbalance should be balanced and so on
Simple we need their technology in Healthcare, transportation and agriculture and hey need our laboratory making these products
the UK is looking to join the CPTPP
No clearer picture for viewers about what is the planning
secure trade pass (sea) between EU and China, I assume
safe trade pass, in my opinion 😁
China also wants the same thing as EU but it does object if this was launched as a means to contain China.
both needs the secure passage for their trades, as history recalls
Build back better
Because Somali is a language not citizenship or nationality and you know that
Long live Free Banvetia independence to get out China! 🟦☀🟦⬜️🤜🇨🇳
Lol had to google it to find out what is banvetia…. It turned out to be a joke
Your pronunciation is not good
UE and USA mau ke daerah asia, asia adalah negara yang aman dan damai.Dan orang kulit putih mau menghancur kan seperti di afrika dan arab.Tidak ada bagus nya orang kulit putih itu mereka selalu mengadu domba dan memaksa kan kehendak mereka.Mereka merasa paling benar.
justru itu, waktunya kita memanfaatkan kondisi kan 😁
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The west think that they can shift the supply chain away from china to this region, that's why they're starting to look at this region with interest however that's not going to happen form the next 15-20 years as we know countries in this region don't have enough infrastructures to support the European needs, and of course no western investors are coming to invest either, poor democratic developing countries carry long term risk so they still prefer china, as we know that countries here don't grow that fast either
Dont grow that fast either? Have you seen southeast asia economy today?
@@harukrentz435 yes, most ASEAN countries grew less than 6% even before covid. Philippines grew at 6% in 2018 and 2019 when we talk about china that's consider as low growth rate
just need Singapore as hub (and they are always ready for it) and to secure the others as trade passageway, in my view 😁
Pls show proper map of india DW ... You show some parts of india to China and some to Pakistan.?? Why ??
Without Indias help, no other country can entry indo pacific. Even US has to work with India to be relevant. Japan is a weakening country with population decreasing every year and S.Korea is the same. SEA countries were never a super power in their history so they can only be a minor player. Australia is just a natural resource pit will most of it's population living in eastern corner of the continent.
The countries I felt behind are just useless unable to feed their own people.
yes right. India up to Middle East and North Africa are already helping them actually 😁 even some US/EU companies already named their areas with MENA (Middle East North Africa) or EMEA (Europe Middle East). Really I am curious, are these companies operation in India are considered as APAC (Asia Pacific Australia China) or others?
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Some narcissistic comment
What is EU
What about India and.China and Japan interest in Atlantic ocean region
there are no interest in Atlantic. to do the trade with both northern and southern America, India Japan China will use Pacific as safe passageways
What EU has to do with IndoPacific ? why not include china? Is again maneuver solely to contain China not region development.
France alone has larger Exclusive Economic Zone than China in Indo Pacific … do you think we ask you permission 😂
EU need a safe trade route from & to China
Recognition Republic of Somaliland that’s justice and you know the history in east Africa
Indo Pacific, what a funny name😂 should be Indi Pacific since Indonesia is refusing to join. Another failed idea just to exclude China, you couldn’t dominate Asia without China and Indonesia🤣🤣🤣
India also Called indo
Recognition Republic of Somaliland plz that’s justice because you know the history
People of Indo-Pacific continents are interested everything european
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Europe rules 🇪🇺❤
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When you fight with elephants, don't involve ants India, India is a small country, let go of India,please.😱😱😱🙄🙄🙄
but India population is great 👍
You cannot counter China without India
India is world largest democracy
India is 2nd biggest enemy of China after USA
India have 4th most powerful Millitary
India have 5th biggest Economy
it's that India which defeated china in 1967 war
Yes just 1.4 billion.😂😂🤔
ok lets join EU guys
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