My dad bought a brand new bf LTD 5.4 V8 in the seduce colour and same interior,it had travelld17,000 km when he passed away in 2010,it is still in the shed with 17000 kays spotless
A beautiful piece of Australian automotive history there, with some great memories of your Dad too I am sure. Be sure to look after it , let us know if you ever might move it on.
Loved my ZL, only problem was needing a football field to make a u turn. Not the best steering lock. Super comfy running up the Hume from Melbourne to Sydney.
@@walnep167 Hi I have owned all of the models you referred to, fairly certain that the falcon was a bit better by about 3 ft. The Fairlane would not turn around in the same space in our workshop. The Gt would, just blip the throttle and you would turn lol, Cheers Steve.
Only a three speed auto without even a lock up converter was unacceptable back then. The US had that in many of their domestics since the late 70s. The 4.1 efi was a very nice motor for a luxury car despite modest peak power on paper. Very nice sound systems then too.
Are your running the original engine? Or have you chucked a v8 into it? If you have a v8 in it was it difficult to do? I have a 85 fairlane and it’s just a rolling shell, just trying to grab ideas to what engine should go in it.
ZL was Fairlane. LTD was FE wish I’d never sold mine in ‘97 with 84000 on the clock but moving from NZ to Aus I thought I’d find another one easily….I didn’t
@@auscarlover7485 i had intentions of dropping the 8 in because I discovered the front end is already set up for compliance with heavy springs & strut towers from the ZJ. But I sold mine to a mate & he put a 5 speed manual in it without swapping the diff. He loaned it to me on a visit back to NZ & the fuel economy was unreal but around town it wasn’t driveable unless you stayed in 1st or at most 2nd gear. He later put a Cleveland in it & told me the only mod he had to do was piping for the heater hoses on the firewall as the left rocker cover had less clearance
G'day Jon ... OMG that LTD is just plain gorgeous ...Love it .. It'd actually forgotten that the BF had the LTD and I pride myself on knowing a bit about Aussie Fords ...You did great to find one . The Falcon based cars are amazing .. Think about this .. During 56 years of production the mighty US then entirely Aussie Falcon produced the following levels .. excluding the very early models of course which I'm not too sure about but .. GL later Forte , Futura , GXL , Fairmont , Fairmont Ghia , Landau, Fairlane and the ultimate LTD . Of course the G6 , G6E and G6ET followed until it all ended .. . Then the sport orientated cars like the S, SR , XR's and the GS and ultimate GT's and the one and only GT HO .. Then many of these had hardtop coupe's station wagon and ute versions too !!!!.. Even the Territory had a strong link to the Falcon platform ..and there even was an RTV at one time .. The Aussie Falcon is undoubtedly the most amazing car that Australia ever had, For the common bloke or tradie to the Prime Minister .. So proud to say I've owned them (still do of course) .. This LTD literation is such a beaut car and this one is an absolute classic...Great review mate .As always .. ..
The Ford Landau (LTD Coupe) IMO was the coolest LTD ever produced in 🇦🇺 1973 - 1976, Based off an XA Falcon Coupe with with a 290HP 351C, Fmx Auto & 9" diff, Fitted with 4 bucket seats and most other luxuries available at the time were 4 doors, 1 of many I wished I had never sold 😥
My dad owned both the Au and Ba Fairlanes with their respective V8s and in contrast the interior quality was so much of an upgrade, but they both were great country road cruisers
Just love my BF Lane, it's not perfect now as it has 337 thousand on the clock and 17 years old. But i got it cheap for $3200 a few years ago. Nowadays they range from 9-15k depending on condition and kays. 337kms isn't all that bad considering most are well into the 500+ being ex premium hire taxis. My missus thinks it's nothing special but i love it and with some minor work it will come up like new again.
I know a of a guy with a metallic dark maroon 94 NC with the Tickford 6 cylinder and has done around 550K and you wouldn't know it looking at it. It looks magnificent in pictures at least.
Love the LWB Aussie Ford's they are Soo good and so underrated, I own a 1981 Ford FC LTD and I love it more everyday, would love to see some 80's Falcon/ Fairlane / LTD videos.
Been looking for one of these LTD's to put in the garage alongside my WN Caprice to keep it company but yeah, they are certainly thin on the ground alright.
Silver Taxis here in Qld had a number of the Fairlanes & a few LTD's as taxi's- the one time i ride in a Fairlane taxi, it was like riding in a 1999 AU taxi.
That car looks beautiful. I think the engine in this LTD is the same 5.4 Triton found in trucks and SUVs in North America like the F150 and Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator. They are good engines but can have a habit of throwing out sparkplugs I think but when maintained they are fine.
Your right , it is the same engine, AUS actually got the 5.4 3 valve 15 months before USA. I have a G220 and love it, although there is a lot of scary stuff on the net that recommends staying clear of the Triton 3 valve. They have timing chain issues and oiling issues. Its very important to change oil often because sludge can get dislodged and block small oil galleries and passages leading to engine oil starvation
I just brought 1, 07 model but V6, nearly 500km on the clock, in semi rough condition however it drives great, am looking at restoring her, glad I found this video
My only critique of Bseries LWB is Ford had cut costs significantly resulting in less unique car and it shows compared with that AU. I looked for a yr for a mint G8 before my concorde stole my heart.
Yeah I was looking for a DL LTD too. I looked at one that just broke my heart there wouldn’t have been a body panel or piece of interior trim that hadn’t been abused in some way. It wouldn’t have been worth the scrap value. But then I was fortunate to score a Jan ‘99 NL V8 Concorde in navy blue. The guy I bought it from was a collector & he only let it go because he’d bought an AU LTD & ran out of garage space. He had 3 x ZH LTD Silver Monarchs one of which was a one off special build colour coded Burgandy He also had a brand new (2013) FG FPV GT 335 Boss that he bought specifically as an investment as a collectors piece for his son who was only 2 years old 🙄
@@walnep167 Mine was a 5.0 Sparkling burgundy Concorde I sold to a buddy to buy a 392 Hemi. I have a 97 5.0 DL now aswell which was a ex wedding car and is immaculate.
Yes Johnny you know I love a good old LTD or just a Fairlane,I'd get rid of my XR6 FG 2011 n/a for that tomorrow if I could lol,this one goes great stock they're just smooth as hell to drive with a bit of luxury thrown in to sweeten the deal,I've always wanted to own one but never have maybe one day,loved the review thanks mate cheers.
i was lucky enough to get my hands on one of these 5 years ago. i love it and i think the way my nieces love it, it may stay in the family but they're not getting it till i die.
i had the 6cyl Ghia model and i sold it just a few weeks before the used car market went completely nuts 😕 and a few weeks before that i had a chance to buy a low k BF G220 for $1200 argh!
Still have my satellite remote in my GTP happy I don’t use it anymore because it’s been a long time since an upgrade. Definitely a noticeable difference compared to a normal falcon you see everyday
I used to love these things , I was in a ZF LTD once, and you couldn't feel a thing on the road, with a V8 though , it's much more refined, feels like you are sitting in a leather armchair at home. Sad when they announced the LTD wasn't getting enough attention from limo companies, I really believed they missed out on a great riding car to add to their fleet
Your spot on mate.. After being in a BF fairlane and test driving a g6e turbo I can say the only thing good on the fg is that it was turbo.. ride drive seating viewing all better in the BF.. great review, this will be goin up in price as years come
That is a lovely example that’s for sure credit to the owner….. I owned the BA2 LTD and the DL 98 LTD in v8s and the look of the BA2 was just to falcon like in my opinion the DL I should have never sold that was a magic car and looked the part…. Lovely vehicle though 👍
Was a fleet manager at a rental company. Enjoyed my Fairmont company car but the durability of the interior of the BA/BF left a lot to be desired. Common issues were drivers door window control, bonnet release, the shiny trim on the rear door grabs, cup holder lids. Also the 18”* Rebel/XR6/8 wheels are weak and bent often. Also we had a diff leak on a 1 week old car in the car park of a brand new hotel, was a big job for the dealership apprentice on the broom there. Putting the ZF in it was a class move.
This would be a great car on long trips. Was a shame they stopped building these. I remember a Ford guy at work said they were all buying 300c Chryslers .
Hey jono love all your vids, i have the series 2 fairlane ghia sportsman sparkling burgundy which i bought in 06. Worth noting that it comes with same but black premium howe leather package like the ltd, and factory momo woodgrain wheel. Also my 96 xr6 manual ute I had as an apprentice had a factory momo wheel in it. The el wheel is compatible to au and vice versa and airbag so yeah just a cool deal. I have the momo el gt wood wheel in in my el fairmont ghia and ba fairlane chunky wheel in my ba xr6t ute, and wife has territory turbo ghia with chunky wheel.
@@RossReviewsau I've never seen that car, it's beautiful. That would be awesome for Southern California. I visited Australia back in the mid 80s and really loved the Ford Falcon design and got to drive one which was a blast. Wish Ford allowed those to be sold here.
@@mvnorsel6354 yes totally agree i have had mine since 2014 and other than regular maintenance nothing really has gone wrong apart from the roof liner but 🤷♂️ not really a problem. Had it since 88000 ks its on 250000 now and still feels tight .
@@ashtincampbell6038 Got in be at 45k now at 122k. I dont drive much , lockdown hurt big time. The clear coat is poor I see many with bad paint. I dont take mine out if the UV is high. Lol
Beautiful cars. I had a P6 for a few years best land Yacht ever. Big big car. But anyone can drive then. They are very very sweet on the road. Picking up a 2006 BH Fairlane G8 today. 5.4 ltr 98,500kms in the best condition I've ever seen a vehicle presented. Absolutely nothing to fault. Paying $9k but worth every cent.❤ Go Ford go the mighty land Yacht ⛵. Anyone have any info in how many BF G8 FAIRLANES WERE MADE ID APPRECIATE THE INFO. MINE IS Lighting Strike Silver colour with charcoal full beautiful condition faultless.. Again I'd love any info on the BF 06 G8 FAIRLANE. CHEERS EVERYONE 👍🇦🇺
Thank you for the video Ross. Nice review. I know I asked you about a LTD video. This answers the question. Australian LTD lived on long after the LTD died in the United States. This is a very nice looking car. Nicely loaded car too. You said Lincoln Town Car styling. It was Lincoln , but it was not Town Car. It was 1988-1994 Lincoln Continental: ruclips.net/video/sfARKMZIzb4/видео.html Your Ford had a V8 and rear drive. The Lincoln shared is front wheel drive and a V6.
Having owned both an AU Series 1 LTD as well as a 2007 BF LTD (still own), I very much concur with your point on ride quality and premium level. The BF is the better road handling car whereas the AU really was the last of the true Ford LTD's. The AU just seemed to be a higher quality trim/assembled car, as compared to the BF. The B Series cars, although far more popular than the AU, were very much a cookie cutter version of each other (Falcon/Fairmont/Fairlane/LTD). And I think that this is the reason why these LWB cars went away as they were too similar to the base models. However, I only sold the AU, to buy the BF and the BF is my preferred car. One that I will have for a long time to come. Are they worth $25K to $50K??? Kinda struggle with that one a bit, but hey, I could be completely wrong.
glad you agreed with my comments between the 2 in ride quality! definitely worth at least 25k-40k this one with 80km on the clock completely original and immaculate! would fetch decetnt money i feel to a collector
I was aware that previous LTD's had low numbers like only 300 or so were made each year fairlane ghias were about 3000 Each year , but only 50 BF ,that's another story , every man and his dog will be chasing one , there in that same collectability league of AU Sportsman TL50 TS50 Less than 500 of those made
One of these a LTD WHITE IN NICE LOOKING NICK. NO DENTS NO RIPS ALL ROUND LOOK FINE IN TTHE CARPORT OR ON THE ROAD. IT WAS 3 months back in WA ADVERTISED BF LTD 100% Original everything works. Get this $6,900 Ono WFT IN JUST UNDER AN HOUR ITBWAS SOLD. IN FK WA TO. SORRY BUT IM JEALOUS AND HAVE 2 BF LTDs both under 100k 2 G8s Both very fine examples but one in particular is in a close on it’s own. 99.95 % perfect no Ghias. But a couple ZC fairlanes. With 500 hp 351 Windsors but custom paint and interior but top loader and have plenty of different 9 inch drive gears for ratios under different drive gears 4 / 11 s but don’t plan on a Sunday cruise. But one has run a respectable 11.6 which for a big car I’m happy.beautiful cars.
Butt it’s cool I’m not into man shave on my balls. They do periodically give off a Parmesan cheese kick. But bit of the tough SALVO EXTRA SAND ALL SWEET.
It's a shame Ford USA never allowed Ford AU to export these. The engineering was so much better than the U.S arm's equivalent Lincolns and Fords, but ultimately the internal politics within Ford made sure that Ford Australia never had a chance.
@@MartinJones123 The 5.4 is smooth and effortless, more so than the 5.0. I test drove a few AU 5.0's and to me the power plant did not feel much more powerful than the I6. Not enough to justify a v8 version. That's why I ended up with a G220, and are very happy
The interior looks a bit drab and plastic with the steering wheel and dash. Doesn't really look like a high end luxury car. Think the AU is alot nicer on the interior
Idk if most LTD owners in geelong can’t look after a car or what. But majority of any generation LTD I see on the road in geelong are clear coatless sun damaged shit boxes. I am sure there’s some good examples out there but compared to most of the caprices/statesmen they’re in pretty good nick or are at least modded and clean by enthusiast’s
Why did you refer to this as a Barra V8. As far as I understand the Barra was only the twin double over head cam 6 BA to FGX. This 5.4 I believe was termed Triton, whilst the second gen FG had the Coyote. I'm happy to stand corrected & intend no disrespect.
@@RossReviewsau i do stand corrected, good thought provocation though. They were known as both but the 230 was Barra, unsure why. Bit grumpy in my old age.
unless I am mistaken I thought the barra was the straight 6 ford made from 2002 till the end of production. Happy to be wrong. Then I hadn't read the comments
@@keidasyou are 100% wrong The base v8 is referred to as the barra220 220 is for kw, later versions with 2 knock censors and ZF 6 speed automatic were 230kw It’s basically the triton v8 from America but we actually got it first and locally cast a different intake and exhaust manifolds for it, it has 3 valves per cylinder and 1 camshaft per head and vct. I have one in my manual BAmk11 XT falcon The boss 260 is the performance v8 for the XR8 and GT
Yeah it’s technically the triton 5.4L however was marketed in Australia & NZ as the Barra V8 it’s really a truck V8 production numbers were very low was used in the BF LTD, BA G220, XT and could be fitted into the XLS ute less than 300 of those were ever made
The real shame with this last model of LTD is that it looks tooooo much like a Falcon, inside and out. Ford Australia really skimped with the budget and it shows. At least the AU LTD stood apart from its poor cousin, the Falcon. No way would I have paid 70k for a BF LTD in the day.
I think $20,000 for the badges and a few gadgets and altered upholstery was a ripoff and not worth the upgrade. I'd be happy enough when a Fairlane. The DH and DK LTD from 1979 -1984 was the last LTD that looked way above the rest inside and out. This last iteration is the worst in lack of differentiation. The dash and steering wheel looked too similar to an upper spec Falcon for my liking. Ford just lost pride in their flagship by the 2000s and plainly didn't care as much, probably not helped by the fact the lower models were well equipped anyway. And the obsession with being sporty. Couldn't this be left as a floaty boat? Many people don't care about going around witches hats without hitting them.
Barra230 never herd of that the barra220 tho 75k that's weird the g220 was only 63k makes no sense the g220 was the top of the line fairlane I knk this because my brother has one the barr220 was very problematic witch rendered it very unpopular due to its timing chains issues not to mention they like to snap the spark plus off inside the heads 😳 no real performance mods for them off the shelf they actually a ford triton engine out of the f150's in the states ford Australia just renamed it lol
I see where it can be confusing, the BA, BF 5.4L BARRA 3 VALVE V8 was based on the modular engine but in the barra family, so no one called that specific v8 a modular
Ok, a history lesson. You can nickname your engine whatever you want but for accuracy, there is no v8 “barra”. It simply does not exist. In 1990 Ford US released a new platform v8 engine designated “modular”. This engine replaced the Cleveland and Windsor pushrod v8s. The name “modular” is from the new manufacturing process. The “modular” family of engines ranges from the 4.6 - 6.8 v10. It includes the 5.4 and the 5.0 coyote. These engines were designed in the US and were manufactured in Windsor, Ontario. They delivered the first of the 3v 5.4 to australia for the falcon range and then put them in f series trucks, explorers, Lincoln’s etc. FPV took the block and the crank of the “modular” 5.4 and modified it before building a completely new engine known in Australia as the “boss”. Similarly FPV did the same to the 5.0 “coyote” block and were allowed to rename it the “Miami”. Meanwhile in Australia…….. Ford Australia designed and built the next phase of their 4.0 straight 6s. This is a twin cam, 24v VCT. This engine was named the”barra”. It didn’t exist in the US. Wasn’t designed in the US. Wasn’t built in the US and has no association whatsoever to the US designed, Canadian built v8s. The Aussie “barra” and the 5.4 “modular” are not related in any way barring dropping them in Aussie falcons. You can nickname them whatever you want but it is not accurate. Loved the review.
Hi Ross, I have a 2005 BA MkII G220 Black Fairlane. I'm wanting to know where or what website I go to to find out how many of my particular model was sold in Australia with Black, Buege Interior, Sun Roof, Sat Nav etc.??
@@user-ye1se9qm8m Yeah... That's what I was saying, the AU looks different while this gen looks too similar to your standard old BA Falcon with some chrome...
@@MartinJones123 that's why I think the statesman from this era was better. Since it looks a lot more different than the standard commodore sedan. Albeit while having a similar interior.
@@RossReviewsau Cheers, are you talking B series ZB from the 60's ? Have a look at P5 and P6 LTD's 73-79 Or Fairlane/Marquis from 76-79. They look much diff from Falcon. Even ZC/D 69-71 had vertical headlights and looked diff to Falcon.That's why Ford was smashing Statesman sales back then, which looked to much like a Premier. Ford fell into that same trap ( due to limited funds, after the AU debacle ) with the last Fairlane/LTD's, shown here.
@@RossReviewsau Yes. Flashback to 1972 when the American Galaxie was retired in favour of the first Aussie LTD. No mistaking that for a Fairlane or Falcon. The same goes for the next LTD in 1976. Even the XD based LTD managed to look different from the Fairlane. That was the secret to Ford's success in this market slot, cars that couldn't be mistaken from their cheaper brothers.
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My dad bought a brand new bf LTD 5.4 V8 in the seduce colour and same interior,it had travelld17,000 km when he passed away in 2010,it is still in the shed with 17000 kays spotless
sorry i was wrong, checked it ,it has done 11000
sorry to hear that about your old man.. hope you take care of that LTD for him :)
What a car 11,000! WOW
A beautiful piece of Australian automotive history there, with some great memories of your Dad too I am sure. Be sure to look after it , let us know if you ever might move it on.
still have it?
Loved my ZL, only problem was needing a football field to make a u turn. Not the best steering lock.
Super comfy running up the Hume from Melbourne to Sydney.
🤣🤣 you gotta love a big Aussie boat 🇦🇺
Same turning circle as any XD-XF wagon
@@walnep167 Hi I have owned all of the models you referred to, fairly certain that the falcon was a bit better by about 3 ft. The Fairlane would not turn around in the same space in our workshop.
The Gt would, just blip the throttle and you would turn lol,
Cheers Steve.
The BA Fairlane Ghia has a great turning circle for the size of the car. I can do a U-turn into the middle lane, easily.
I have an ‘86 ZL/LTD and it’s just the comfiest car ever. So smooth! Love this BF tho!
i got a silver one too, only 100 thousand on the dash
Only a three speed auto without even a lock up converter was unacceptable back then. The US had that in many of their domestics since the late 70s.
The 4.1 efi was a very nice motor for a luxury car despite modest peak power on paper.
Very nice sound systems then too.
Are your running the original engine? Or have you chucked a v8 into it? If you have a v8 in it was it difficult to do? I have a 85 fairlane and it’s just a rolling shell, just trying to grab ideas to what engine should go in it.
ZL was Fairlane. LTD was FE wish I’d never sold mine in ‘97 with 84000 on the clock but moving from NZ to Aus I thought I’d find another one easily….I didn’t
@@auscarlover7485 i had intentions of dropping the 8 in because I discovered the front end is already set up for compliance with heavy springs & strut towers from the ZJ. But I sold mine to a mate & he put a 5 speed manual in it without swapping the diff. He loaned it to me on a visit back to NZ & the fuel economy was unreal but around town it wasn’t driveable unless you stayed in 1st or at most 2nd gear. He later put a Cleveland in it & told me the only mod he had to do was piping for the heater hoses on the firewall as the left rocker cover had less clearance
G'day Jon ... OMG that LTD is just plain gorgeous ...Love it .. It'd actually forgotten that the BF had the LTD and I pride myself on knowing a bit about Aussie Fords ...You did great to find one . The Falcon based cars are amazing .. Think about this .. During 56 years of production the mighty US then entirely Aussie Falcon produced the following levels .. excluding the very early models of course which I'm not too sure about but .. GL later Forte , Futura , GXL , Fairmont , Fairmont Ghia , Landau, Fairlane and the ultimate LTD . Of course the G6 , G6E and G6ET followed until it all ended .. . Then the sport orientated cars like the S, SR , XR's and the GS and ultimate GT's and the one and only GT HO .. Then many of these had hardtop coupe's station wagon and ute versions too !!!!.. Even the Territory had a strong link to the Falcon platform ..and there even was an RTV at one time .. The Aussie Falcon is undoubtedly the most amazing car that Australia ever had, For the common bloke or tradie to the Prime Minister .. So proud to say I've owned them (still do of course) .. This LTD literation is such a beaut car and this one is an absolute classic...Great review mate .As always .. ..
thank you mate and im glad you enjoyed this episode :)
Somehow looks both 1996 AND 2006 at the same time and i Love it!
🤣 your right! But man it’s hot 👁👄👁
Beautiful car. Glad to see it's been maintained well. A true gem.
And a great review.
Thanks mate.. real credit to the owner
The Ford Landau (LTD Coupe) IMO was the coolest LTD ever produced in 🇦🇺 1973 - 1976, Based off an XA Falcon Coupe with with a 290HP 351C, Fmx Auto & 9" diff, Fitted with 4 bucket seats and most other luxuries available at the time were 4 doors, 1 of many I wished I had never sold 😥
Aaaand some of the Landau had the RPO83. Amazing car
My dad owned both the Au and Ba Fairlanes with their respective V8s and in contrast the interior quality was so much of an upgrade, but they both were great country road cruisers
They both would have been amazing on the back road 🇦🇺🤙
@@RossReviewsau yeah we used to be able to smash out 3/4/5 hours of country driving no worries
Just love my BF Lane, it's not perfect now as it has 337 thousand on the clock and 17 years old. But i got it cheap for $3200 a few years ago. Nowadays they range from 9-15k depending on condition and kays. 337kms isn't all that bad considering most are well into the 500+ being ex premium hire taxis. My missus thinks it's nothing special but i love it and with some minor work it will come up like new again.
I know a of a guy with a metallic dark maroon 94 NC with the Tickford 6 cylinder and has done around 550K and you wouldn't know it looking at it. It looks magnificent in pictures at least.
I truly enjoy seeing reviews of these cool cars that I didn't even know existed! (I live in Europe). Great video!
So glad you enjoy the channel mate.. lots of hidden gems here in Australia not many people know exist
Great review of very nice luxury cruiser Jono and hats off to the owner for keeping it in such great condition!
It’s so clean! Really a museum piece
Love the LWB Aussie Ford's they are Soo good and so underrated, I own a 1981 Ford FC LTD and I love it more everyday, would love to see some 80's Falcon/ Fairlane / LTD videos.
Couldn't agree more got that exact interior in my 2003 Fairmont Ghia and it really does look soo modern still considering the cars almost 20 years old
lovely car
I fully restored a ZF Fairlane 351 back in 1991.
It was a tough tank.❤
Great review, and that's impressive the 5.4 Laney did 0-100 in 6.8 seconds with the owner sitting in the back like the prime minister lol nice!
It bad at all for such a big car eh!
Been looking for one of these LTD's to put in the garage alongside my WN Caprice to keep it company but yeah, they are certainly thin on the ground alright.
Silver Taxis here in Qld had a number of the Fairlanes & a few LTD's as taxi's- the one time i ride in a Fairlane taxi, it was like riding in a 1999 AU taxi.
HAHA now those are cabs eh!
Nice car, great video as always Jon 👍
Thanks as always Chris
That car looks beautiful. I think the engine in this LTD is the same 5.4 Triton found in trucks and SUVs in North America like the F150 and Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator. They are good engines but can have a habit of throwing out sparkplugs I think but when maintained they are fine.
Your right , it is the same engine, AUS actually got the 5.4 3 valve 15 months before USA. I have a G220 and love it, although there is a lot of scary stuff on the net that recommends staying clear of the Triton 3 valve. They have timing chain issues and oiling issues. Its very important to change oil often because sludge can get dislodged and block small oil galleries and passages leading to engine oil starvation
I just brought 1, 07 model but V6, nearly 500km on the clock, in semi rough condition however it drives great, am looking at restoring her, glad I found this video
V6? what an idiot. no such thing.
The LTD's are just so much luxury and started life as government cars...
I have the Barra V8 in the BA ute... such a cool engine and quick too
My only critique of Bseries LWB is Ford had cut costs significantly resulting in less unique car and it shows compared with that AU. I looked for a yr for a mint G8 before my concorde stole my heart.
The AU was more noticeably different eh..
Yeah I was looking for a DL LTD too. I looked at one that just broke my heart there wouldn’t have been a body panel or piece of interior trim that hadn’t been abused in some way. It wouldn’t have been worth the scrap value. But then I was fortunate to score a Jan ‘99 NL V8 Concorde in navy blue. The guy I bought it from was a collector & he only let it go because he’d bought an AU LTD & ran out of garage space. He had 3 x ZH LTD Silver Monarchs
one of which was a one off special build colour coded Burgandy He also had a brand new (2013) FG FPV GT 335 Boss that he bought specifically as an investment as a collectors piece for his son who was only 2 years old 🙄
@@walnep167 Mine was a 5.0 Sparkling burgundy Concorde I sold to a buddy to buy a 392 Hemi. I have a 97 5.0 DL now aswell which was a ex wedding car and is immaculate.
Yes Johnny you know I love a good old LTD or just a Fairlane,I'd get rid of my XR6 FG 2011 n/a for that tomorrow if I could lol,this one goes great stock they're just smooth as hell to drive with a bit of luxury thrown in to sweeten the deal,I've always wanted to own one but never have maybe one day,loved the review thanks mate cheers.
thanks again pete! gotta love them falcons
Who wouldn't, I6 n/a, no thanks
i was lucky enough to get my hands on one of these 5 years ago. i love it and i think the way my nieces love it, it may stay in the family but they're not getting it till i die.
They are beautiful cars
i had the 6cyl Ghia model and i sold it just a few weeks before the used car market went completely nuts 😕 and a few weeks before that i had a chance to buy a low k BF G220 for $1200 argh!
Damn that would have been a steal bro!
Better than selling 3 houses before real estate went completely nuts. Oh, and there is no such thing as a BF G220
Still have my satellite remote in my GTP happy I don’t use it anymore because it’s been a long time since an upgrade. Definitely a noticeable difference compared to a normal falcon you see everyday
That’s right! Pretty cool feature eh! 😅 not many falcons got the upgrade
I used to love these things , I was in a ZF LTD once, and you couldn't feel a thing on the road, with a V8 though , it's much more refined, feels like you are sitting in a leather armchair at home. Sad when they announced the LTD wasn't getting enough attention from limo companies, I really believed they missed out on a great riding car to add to their fleet
Love to have one beautiful luxury ride
It’s so good! Very very luxurious 😩
oh man thats class.. credit to the owner!
The owner was a legend and really took pride in this LTD 👀👍
Your spot on mate..
After being in a BF fairlane and test driving a g6e turbo I can say the only thing good on the fg is that it was turbo.. ride drive seating viewing all better in the BF.. great review, this will be goin up in price as years come
The FG interior feels super cheap... LOL
yup they really lost the premium ness in the g6e and basically got hardly anything better than a standard falcon eh
@@RossReviewsau You're right... And the high seating in the FG/FG-X is a deal breaker... Though is there any mod you could do to make the seat lower?
@@MartinJones123 The seat definitely goes lower in my 2003 G220 than my 2008 BF fairmont
@@jetson2075 BA/BF seating position is okay...
Love your work mate and I haven't even watched it yet I know its going to be good
Cheers you legend 🙏
That is a lovely example that’s for sure credit to the owner…..
I owned the BA2 LTD and the DL 98 LTD in v8s and the look of the BA2 was just to falcon like in my opinion the DL I should have never sold that was a magic car and looked the part….
Lovely vehicle though 👍
yup the AU LTD did have more unique ness to her.. this was awesome but felt a bit underdone
The roof profile of long wheel base is much better than the egg looking AU-BA-Bf in my opinion
Was a fleet manager at a rental company. Enjoyed my Fairmont company car but the durability of the interior of the BA/BF left a lot to be desired.
Common issues were drivers door window control, bonnet release, the shiny trim on the rear door grabs, cup holder lids.
Also the 18”* Rebel/XR6/8 wheels are weak and bent often.
Also we had a diff leak on a 1 week old car in the car park of a brand new hotel, was a big job for the dealership apprentice on the broom there.
Putting the ZF in it was a class move.
They were 18 inch not 19
@@out_on_bail my bad.
yup i know all too well the little probles of a B series haha..
This would be a great car on long trips. Was a shame they stopped building these. I remember a Ford guy at work said they were all buying 300c Chryslers .
I am lucky enough to own a BA LTD... very nice car.
that is lucky!
I got the G220, lovely smooth effortless, quiet power
LTD stands for Lincoln type design. Not Limited.
Fabulously preserved.
Museum quality
That’s one nice ride.
One less car as my dad rode his off in 2014. All I have left of it is the keys.
🥲🥲🥲
@ silver lining is that I own a 2003 Ford BA Fairlane Ghia, since 2018 and still going strong.
Hey jono love all your vids, i have the series 2 fairlane ghia sportsman sparkling burgundy which i bought in 06. Worth noting that it comes with same but black premium howe leather package like the ltd, and factory momo woodgrain wheel. Also my 96 xr6 manual ute I had as an apprentice had a factory momo wheel in it. The el wheel is compatible to au and vice versa and airbag so yeah just a cool deal. I have the momo el gt wood wheel in in my el fairmont ghia and ba fairlane chunky wheel in my ba xr6t ute, and wife has territory turbo ghia with chunky wheel.
I'm a proud owner of a 2002 Crown Victoria and must say this LTD is Bad Ass !!
Hell ya! Gotta love a crown vic!
@@RossReviewsau I've never seen that car, it's beautiful. That would be awesome for Southern California. I visited Australia back in the mid 80s and really loved the Ford Falcon design and got to drive one which was a blast.
Wish Ford allowed those to be sold here.
the previous model LTD/fairlane before this one looked even more like an australian version of a crown vic.
A tmr 380 would be a great video if you could find one I saw one a while back. supercharged from factory I believe.
Any 380 review would be good, the forgotten Australian car.
@@mvnorsel6354 yeah maybe at a sx or gt I got a sx its been a great car
@@ashtincampbell6038 I got the L'S nothing has broken in my 10 years. My best ever buy. A great country car.
@@mvnorsel6354 yes totally agree i have had mine since 2014 and other than regular maintenance nothing really has gone wrong apart from the roof liner but 🤷♂️ not really a problem. Had it since 88000 ks its on 250000 now and still feels tight .
@@ashtincampbell6038 Got in be at 45k now at 122k. I dont drive much , lockdown hurt big time. The clear coat is poor I see many with bad paint. I dont take mine out if the UV is high. Lol
Very nice car didn’t know much about them.
😊
Definitely rare
Do a video about the caprice vs LTD
The wm caprice just about killed the ltd I reckon
WL 2006 was a better comparison
@@thomaswalton545 yeah 100%
That’ would be a good comparison
@@RossReviewsau yeah mate
Great vid. Great cars
Thanks 🙏
Really Nice LTD. I love those limos
Epic rides for sure
Nice car. Good job!
Thanks mate
Beautiful cars. I had a P6 for a few years best land Yacht ever. Big big car. But anyone can drive then. They are very very sweet on the road. Picking up a 2006 BH Fairlane G8 today. 5.4 ltr 98,500kms in the best condition I've ever seen a vehicle presented. Absolutely nothing to fault. Paying $9k but worth every cent.❤ Go Ford go the mighty land Yacht ⛵. Anyone have any info in how many BF G8 FAIRLANES WERE MADE ID APPRECIATE THE INFO. MINE IS Lighting Strike Silver colour with charcoal full beautiful condition faultless.. Again I'd love any info on the BF 06 G8 FAIRLANE. CHEERS EVERYONE 👍🇦🇺
Sold my BF Fairlane V8 with 80,000 for 16,000 about 3 years ago .. it was nice to drive for sure!
That would have been a great car!
I have a 4lt NL Fairlane ghia dark blue with only 107,000 ks on it. It is a factory original survivor and I wouldn't upgrade it for anything!
Great stuff mate!
very nice will be a collectors item very shortly the V8 is nice but imagine the barra turbo under that hood
That would have been interesting eh! Definitely a collectors car
Thank you for the video Ross. Nice review. I know I asked you about a LTD video. This answers the question. Australian LTD lived on long after the LTD died in the United States. This is a very nice looking car. Nicely loaded car too. You said Lincoln Town Car styling. It was Lincoln , but it was not Town Car. It was 1988-1994 Lincoln Continental: ruclips.net/video/sfARKMZIzb4/видео.html Your Ford had a V8 and rear drive. The Lincoln shared is front wheel drive and a V6.
love the old lincolns! my uncle still has one in canada
I would LOVE one of the last long boys as as a daily driver
they are so comfy
In v8 or 6
Having owned both an AU Series 1 LTD as well as a 2007 BF LTD (still own), I very much concur with your point on ride quality and premium level. The BF is the better road handling car whereas the AU really was the last of the true Ford LTD's. The AU just seemed to be a higher quality trim/assembled car, as compared to the BF. The B Series cars, although far more popular than the AU, were very much a cookie cutter version of each other (Falcon/Fairmont/Fairlane/LTD). And I think that this is the reason why these LWB cars went away as they were too similar to the base models. However, I only sold the AU, to buy the BF and the BF is my preferred car. One that I will have for a long time to come. Are they worth $25K to $50K??? Kinda struggle with that one a bit, but hey, I could be completely wrong.
glad you agreed with my comments between the 2 in ride quality! definitely worth at least 25k-40k this one with 80km on the clock completely original and immaculate! would fetch decetnt money i feel to a collector
I still like the roof line in the long wheel base, ten times better than an AU-BA-BF egg shape
Beautiful car
It’s a museum piece
So the fairlanes utes and wagons were built onf a different line to the standard falcon as they were longer by 100mm
Makes sense I guess eh
Oh great car!
Beautiful...
Really is classy 😍
Im still using the 1984 fairmont.
Good stuff mate!
I was aware that previous LTD's had low numbers like only 300 or so were made each year fairlane ghias were about 3000 Each year , but only 50 BF ,that's another story , every man and his dog will be chasing one , there in that same collectability league of
AU Sportsman
TL50
TS50
Less than 500 of those made
ive got a TL50 coming soon :) very rare
One of these a LTD WHITE IN NICE LOOKING NICK. NO DENTS NO RIPS ALL ROUND LOOK FINE IN TTHE CARPORT OR ON THE ROAD. IT WAS 3 months back in WA ADVERTISED BF LTD 100% Original everything works. Get this $6,900 Ono WFT IN JUST UNDER AN HOUR ITBWAS SOLD. IN FK WA TO. SORRY BUT IM JEALOUS AND HAVE 2 BF LTDs both under 100k 2 G8s Both very fine examples but one in particular is in a close on it’s own. 99.95 % perfect no Ghias. But a couple ZC fairlanes. With 500 hp 351 Windsors but custom paint and interior but top loader and have plenty of different 9 inch drive gears for ratios under different drive gears 4 / 11 s but don’t plan on a Sunday cruise. But one has run a respectable 11.6 which for a big car I’m happy.beautiful cars.
Butt it’s cool I’m not into man shave on my balls. They do periodically give off a Parmesan cheese kick. But bit of the tough SALVO EXTRA SAND ALL SWEET.
It's a shame Ford USA never allowed Ford AU to export these. The engineering was so much better than the U.S arm's equivalent Lincolns and Fords, but ultimately the internal politics within Ford made sure that Ford Australia never had a chance.
its always been a shame ford australia never got the respect they deserved.. the barra especially was a world class engine
It was outsold by the Holden Caprice by about 25,000 to 1. No wonder Ford pulled the plug.
You need to do some e-series falcon review mate
I’m looking!! So hard to find
@@RossReviewsau I've got an el ghia if you maybe interested
@@RossReviewsau Do a Commodore from this vintage too!
I do love the AU LTD over the B-series. I'd rather the pushrod 5.0ltr over the cumbersome 3 valve 5.4ltr also...
I’ll agree the AU is always king
Definitely agree... Windsor is just a more smooth cruising engine...
@@MartinJones123 The 5.4 is smooth and effortless, more so than the 5.0. I test drove a few AU 5.0's and to me the power plant did not feel much more powerful than the I6. Not enough to justify a v8 version. That's why I ended up with a G220, and are very happy
Reminded me of the Ford 500
a little eh
The ltd is a fairlane not a falcon Ross. Slightly different
Yeh I guess your technically right there but people are so familiar with them as a falcon (gotta have them click words 🤣)
The interior looks a bit drab and plastic with the steering wheel and dash. Doesn't really look like a high end luxury car. Think the AU is alot nicer on the interior
Sadly it was.. the au was a more premium feeling LTD
Very cool
Very 😁
Idk if most LTD owners in geelong can’t look after a car or what. But majority of any generation LTD I see on the road in geelong are clear coatless sun damaged shit boxes. I am sure there’s some good examples out there but compared to most of the caprices/statesmen they’re in pretty good nick or are at least modded and clean by enthusiast’s
yup sadly most will be used and abused.. this one was an incredible find
That is definitely a nice car think the E series LTD had more style though
I’m desperate to see a E series.. so rare
Come to Sydney can review mine hahaha
I knew some guy that had an E-Series Fairlane with the 5.0L (I'm pretty sure) and it had an LPG tank and was in rough shape...
Have a g220 v8 in my ford territory
Very nice 👍
There are a couple for sale on marketplace
I could only find one when I filmed this
Why did you refer to this as a Barra V8. As far as I understand the Barra was only the twin double over head cam 6 BA to FGX. This 5.4 I believe was termed Triton, whilst the second gen FG had the Coyote. I'm happy to stand corrected & intend no disrespect.
From my knowledge it’s always been called the Barra V8..
@@RossReviewsau i do stand corrected, good thought provocation though. They were known as both but the 230 was Barra, unsure why. Bit grumpy in my old age.
unless I am mistaken I thought the barra was the straight 6 ford made from 2002 till the end of production. Happy to be wrong. Then I hadn't read the comments
The Barra is a straight 6 (the legend) but also there was a modular “Barra” V8
Barra v8?? Pretty sure the barra is the name for the straight 6, i could be wrong but i do own one?
There is a Barra v8 this is it
@RossReviewsau nah fact checked that, the inline 6 engines commonly found in the ba bf and fg falcon are the "barra" the v8 is the boss or coyote
@@keidasyou are 100% wrong
The base v8 is referred to as the barra220 220 is for kw, later versions with 2 knock censors and ZF 6 speed automatic were 230kw
It’s basically the triton v8 from America but we actually got it first and locally cast a different intake and exhaust manifolds for it, it has 3 valves per cylinder and 1 camshaft per head and vct.
I have one in my manual BAmk11 XT falcon
The boss 260 is the performance v8 for the XR8 and GT
Did you say Barra 230?
Yes sir
@@RossReviewsau I had no clue they even designated a ‘Barra’ V8.
The barra V8s were a 3 valve versions of the 5.4 boss 4v, BAs had 220kw and BFs had 230kw
@@Nigel_noongar78 Correct sir, the 220kw/230kw 3v was called the 'Barra'.
@@Nigel_noongar78 That's just weird... They should've called it something else...
Who knew there were such American cars that were never sold in America?
look at all the ausdm cars i review!
$50k is a lot of cash for these !!!! Nice car no doubt ....
It is, like I said tho a not as nice one can go for like 20k.. this one tho… has to be 50k so mint
Barra V8? That’s the first I’ve heard of that.
Yeah it’s technically the triton 5.4L however was marketed in Australia & NZ as the Barra V8 it’s really a truck V8 production numbers were very low was used in the BF LTD, BA G220, XT and could be fitted into the XLS ute less than 300 of those were ever made
They do exist 😈 basically a truck motor 😂
The G6 didn't replace the Fairlane/LTD, it replaced the Fairmont
He didn't say it did, he was just referencing there interiors
The real shame with this last model of LTD is that it looks tooooo much like a Falcon, inside and out. Ford Australia really skimped with the budget and it shows. At least the AU LTD stood apart from its poor cousin, the Falcon. No way would I have paid 70k for a BF LTD in the day.
yeh the AU did look a bit more special
I think $20,000 for the badges and a few gadgets and altered upholstery was a ripoff and not worth the upgrade. I'd be happy enough when a Fairlane. The DH and DK LTD from 1979 -1984 was the last LTD that looked way above the rest inside and out.
This last iteration is the worst in lack of differentiation. The dash and steering wheel looked too similar to an upper spec Falcon for my liking.
Ford just lost pride in their flagship by the 2000s and plainly didn't care as much, probably not helped by the fact the lower models were well equipped anyway.
And the obsession with being sporty.
Couldn't this be left as a floaty boat?
Many people don't care about going around witches hats without hitting them.
Definitely was a lot of cash! That’s why not many were ever made
Barra230 never herd of that the barra220 tho 75k that's weird the g220 was only 63k makes no sense the g220 was the top of the line fairlane I knk this because my brother has one the barr220 was very problematic witch rendered it very unpopular due to its timing chains issues not to mention they like to snap the spark plus off inside the heads 😳 no real performance mods for them off the shelf they actually a ford triton engine out of the f150's in the states ford Australia just renamed it lol
Yup they are truck engines I’m told 🤣 but they did make a Barra 230👍
There wasn’t ever a “Barra” v8. The 5.4l was the “modular” v8. The barra is the 6.
Beautiful car.
Yes the "Barra" everyone knows and loves is the 6 cyl but the v8 that came out in this was technically under the barra family and thus a "barra v8"
I see where it can be confusing, the BA, BF 5.4L BARRA 3 VALVE V8 was based on the modular engine but in the barra family, so no one called that specific v8 a modular
People call them a Barra V8 👍 just from what I know
@@RossReviewsau It is the correct name for that engine, personally i never knew about it and my mate told me and i thought it was bulls*it lol
Ok, a history lesson.
You can nickname your engine whatever you want but for accuracy, there is no v8 “barra”. It simply does not exist.
In 1990 Ford US released a new platform v8 engine designated “modular”. This engine replaced the Cleveland and Windsor pushrod v8s. The name “modular” is from the new manufacturing process. The “modular” family of engines ranges from the 4.6 - 6.8 v10. It includes the 5.4 and the 5.0 coyote.
These engines were designed in the US and were manufactured in Windsor, Ontario.
They delivered the first of the 3v 5.4 to australia for the falcon range and then put them in f series trucks, explorers, Lincoln’s etc.
FPV took the block and the crank of the “modular” 5.4 and modified it before building a completely new engine known in Australia as the “boss”. Similarly FPV did the same to the 5.0 “coyote” block and were allowed to rename it the “Miami”.
Meanwhile in Australia……..
Ford Australia designed and built the next phase of their 4.0 straight 6s. This is a twin cam, 24v VCT. This engine was named the”barra”. It didn’t exist in the US. Wasn’t designed in the US. Wasn’t built in the US and has no association whatsoever to the US designed, Canadian built v8s.
The Aussie “barra” and the 5.4 “modular” are not related in any way barring dropping them in Aussie falcons.
You can nickname them whatever you want but it is not accurate.
Loved the review.
Hi Ross, I have a 2005 BA MkII G220 Black Fairlane. I'm wanting to know where or what website I go to to find out how many of my particular model was sold in Australia with Black, Buege Interior, Sun Roof, Sat Nav etc.??
The thing I don't like about this is that it looks way too much like the regular falcon, using the exact same lights.
In person it’s impressive but yeh I get your point
The AU gen looked different to the Fairlane/ LTD
@@MartinJones123 yeah but we're talking about the BA/BF fairlane
@@user-ye1se9qm8m Yeah... That's what I was saying, the AU looks different while this gen looks too similar to your standard old BA Falcon with some chrome...
@@MartinJones123 that's why I think the statesman from this era was better. Since it looks a lot more different than the standard commodore sedan. Albeit while having a similar interior.
The styling and interior on these was not to LTD standard.
Was a bit to weak interior wise I agree
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Barra v8??
They do exist mate
I just got me a BA fairlane
nice work
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Unlike the 70's stuff, the last Fairlane/LTD's, looked to much like a Falcon.
They are very similar in b series
@@RossReviewsau Cheers, are you talking B series ZB from the 60's ? Have a look at P5 and P6 LTD's 73-79 Or Fairlane/Marquis from 76-79. They look much diff from Falcon. Even ZC/D 69-71 had vertical headlights and looked diff to Falcon.That's why Ford was smashing Statesman sales back then, which looked to much like a Premier. Ford fell into that same trap ( due to limited funds, after the AU debacle ) with the last Fairlane/LTD's, shown here.
Um, what’s a Barra V8???
This engine lol
Very nice car. BUT by then the LTD and Fairlane lost there identity. Falcon tail lights didn't help.
I do agree it lost a bit of flair eh
@@RossReviewsau Yes. Flashback to 1972 when the American Galaxie was retired in favour of the first Aussie LTD. No mistaking that for a Fairlane or Falcon. The same goes for the next LTD in 1976. Even the XD based LTD managed to look different from the Fairlane. That was the secret to Ford's success in this market slot, cars that couldn't be mistaken from their cheaper brothers.
Barra V8?
Yes!
Please don’t tell me you just said “Barra V8”
That’s what you call them!
They must have been expensive back in the day
Very
That's true
30 seconds in. The fucking what up front??
Bern out