Fords Greatest Mistake Was Not Making This Car!
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Welcome to another Episode of Ross Reviews AU on this weeks Video we take out this Premcar FGX XR8 Holy Grail! All the Options Where Ticked "Full Package" Installed and this car is massively improved in not only pure Supercharged V8 Performance but in its Handling as well! It really is amazing how this 1800kg 4 door family sedan can move the way it does at speed in the corners!
Using the Miami as a starting point the Premcar team turned everything up to 11. There’s a huge array of upgrades that take the 5.0-litre supercharged V8 from 351kW and 570Nm to an awesome 483kW of power and 753Nm of torque. That’s more power than the HSV GTS-R W1, which makes the Holy Grail the most powerful Aussie muscle car ever made.
To achieve that Premcar added a new cast aluminium intake manifold, triple pass intercooler, isolated air-to-water heat exchanger and recalibrated the ECU to raise the rev limit to 7000rpm. There’s also a new exhaust upgrade, a 3.0-inch stainless steel bi-modal system that allows the engine to breathe more freely and sound suitably loud and aggressive.
The result of these changes is the best engine I’ve ever experienced in a Falcon. The power and torque are so linear across the rev range so it never feels lumpy or stressed, it simply builds speed at an alarming rate. Squeezing the throttle even halfway unleashes so much grunt it feels as quick as any FPV, and if you bury your right foot the speed continues to build and keeps building until you run out of road. The Holy Grail has so much power it feels like it will run on forever if you let it - it’s a fantastic engine that lives up the GT-HO legend.
And the noise! The new exhaust sounds so great when you unleash that performance, there’s a beautiful V8 growl coupled with the whine of the supercharger under the bonnet.
Fords Greatest Mistake Was Not Making This Car!
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Both Ford and Holden reached the pinnacle with their final models...and then they were gone. One of the saddest moments in Aussie history. I know why...but seeing how amazing this car is it's still very painful to swallow.
It’s just not fair to the world 🥲😞
I wouldn’t call Holdens last car (Opel) as at their pinnacle
But I agree I think the market was there for them to have continued Ford and Holden
@rc70ys op was probably referring to the gtsr w1 but hey, i could be wrong.
@@rc70ys Let me correct myself. The VF I would consider the last decent Commodore. Yes the ZB was Opel rubbish...so bad that I didn't even rate it as a Commodore when it appeared. That's where I went off track hah!
But what do I know? I'm a Ford man through and through anyway.
One of my mates was a development tester for Ford, at the period when this car was made. We had a prototype to test and put kilometers on - he'd share the car with us and we'd all have a drive. One interesting thing to note - the engineers apparently tweaked the supercharger by removing some rubber seal which gave more whine. The production cars with the Miami engine were quieter.
I remember my first time driving the Miami. It was a revelation compared to the old 5.4 and felt like an utter rocketship.
I agree with it not being whiney enough. Love the sound of a supercharger.
Beautiful car Beautiful engine
A great review of a special car... However an extra $45000 for a kit on a car was a big ask when the base car was just an XR8, as opposed to a production HSV... Ford and Holden both went out with a bang!
Edit: This car has been driven a bit
It’s sad ford never made it a real car 💀 45k is huge but I have to say it’s hard to get better than this on a good B road.. the sheer grip let me do stupid speeds around corners I was not expecting
@@RossReviewsau You need to find a W1 to review one day, those are also crazy cars...
Great review of the XR8 Holy Grail. I didn’t know they only sold 47 of the 100 kits but it doesn’t surprise me. With the costs of the kit and some people wanting to keep their XR8 stock even if they could have afforded it. The kit sure transforms the car, power and handling wise. It’s a great looking and sounding car. Thanks for the review.
Cheers Peter! Very rare car crazy only 47 sold but it was not cheap! 🤑 awesome car.. truly handles the road better than any other falcon
@@RossReviewsau except the AU of course
Thats an insane car can't imagine going full pelt with a car like that. But at least it will stop proper with proper suspension, rear trailing arm upgrade, stiffer chassis. The stock one definitely wouldn't be safe with such a big power and torque hike. Only saw this in Motor Magazine. Ford should have gone out this way!
Spot on mate.. it’s the handling mods that make this the weapon it is
When I first read about the Holy Grail and the fact it was only limited to 100 units, I honestly thought that some people are going to miss out. No way did I think only 47 would ever be made.
Thanks for the review.
Same I thought it would have sold out.. very sad they didn’t even sell half
$$$$ and is just a kit at the end of the day. potential buyers probably didn't see the kitted cars holding value in the same way as something that rolled out of the factory as a limited edition would have, and that's half the appeal to those buying them I think. That said, the fact there is only 47 now probably will help their future value I guess
For half the money would rather get the KPM Streetfighter SF800r XR8
800HP i know most will be lost in wheel spin but heh it will be fun.
The first time i saw that Premcar was maling these, I thought it was a travesty that Ford didnt go with this. But i wasn't suprised. The FGX didnt even get a marketing campaign.
the official line was that the GT-F was meant to be the pinnacle, there was never supposed to be a XR6 Turbo /8 Sprint, it was a last minute decision.
I can't fault it mate she's a beauty & it just goes to show what absolute gems we've truly lost,our Fords & Holdens were world class it's a crying shame 😢I loved this one buddy a top review cheers.
This was really special and an awesome road to test it on
Why does it sound like a AMG sounds mad I love how you can't really hear the supercharger more of a sleeper
It’s got some aggression when you plant the right foot 😮💨🇦🇺
It doesn’t bother me at all that the whine is not loud!
Hey you finally done the holy grail review awesome mate being waiting too see your reaction well done keep this videos coming love it 👍😊
Was blessed to see this! 1/47
@@RossReviewsau just like you said ford should have made this I was little disappointed in the last gt falcon made a gtho version in the FG series custom interior build number through out when you turn on the car the ford digital display on the ICC FG gtho build number whatever gtho scuff plates gtho embroidered on the seats suede leather Alcantara steering wheel sports modes you can change yourself that's what ford should have done so sad it didn't go that way full bodykit custom wheels too big brakes but ford is finished I wish they did it 😢
Man these Falcons sounds correct. I spent some coins trying to make my LSA sound decent. The M156 MB though is perfect from factory.
The Miami sounds fantastic
Now the fourth Aussie 🇦🇺 vehicle tested to make the 4-5 sec club 😎🤟(out of 13 other vehicles in the 4-5 sec range - and the ~90 vehicles Ross has tested)
Love how you are keeping track! 🤣 I’ll need to message you when I make a top 10 launches video
@@RossReviewsau for sure. Anytime you need any stats - drop me a line 👍
The quietness of this car (Falcon/Fusion) is one of the things I like. But that's my wimpy American version. There isn't much to hear with a 4 or 6 cylinder, IMO. 🙂 With this model, ya gotta be able to hear the engine and exhaust! They should have removed a little sound insulation. I WANT ONE!!
Fk yea I’ve been hanging for a Holy Grail review, what an absolute beast man!
The exhaust sounds pretty sick, like a manta, just a damn shame on the price, I guess they realise that now selling only 47 units, otherwise it’s a pretty damn perfect kit, having the piece of mind that fpv engineers tinkered with it.
Gotta love this eh mate! You basically made your own anyway 😂
The dream is a gtf with a holy grail kit and must be a manual, great vid Johnny you’ve gotta a great taste
That would be amazing
A manual to make your fast car go slower. No thanks
@@markhayleybeadon lol who cares manual is way more fun and a better feeling I’m sure Ross would agree
Saw a white one for a sale a year or two ago. But been a GT F the price was well into 200k 😂 welp...
For more whine take the misses
Another great review, man!
Long shot as the cars are very rare.. Would be cool to see
Holly grail Ford vs the W1.
Still trying to find a GTSR 🤣💀 idk why no ones let me yet 🥲
Definitely right about the seats.
Needs GTP ones
Awesome car sounds sensational!
It’s an awesome kit they made for the fgx. Great review jono 👍
Gotta love a Miami
_❤ GREAT REVIEW ROSS 👏🏽…I’m an old Ford fan from way back, probably like a few of you here, that said you’ll know that Ford (Corporate) after the mid 70’s never had the same long term commitment to promote/build their performance product like GM. Yes, Ford did a great job on the budget they had, no argument, but just like this awesome PREMCAR XR8 they never followed through when there was an opportunity to upstage Holden_ … _you can’t take away from GM the way they supported the performance arm of Holden, IMO_
It’s sad ford “Fpv” always felt just that little bit behind HSV even though they had so much to offer
@@RossReviewsau 💯
I've owned both Holden and Ford, but the interior on this beast just isn't as *premium* as the the HSV-GTSR, still looks like they're stuck in the early 2000's
I said it also this kit should have given some
Interior upgrades.. sad it didn’t receive any
but it looks better than a VF chevy malibu
The thing is....ford sels >1.5mil vehicles in US per year. Doing a kit to sell maybe a few thousand falcons wasn't a blip on the radar. lol
great vid mate,was really impressed with the build and 45 isnt alot really when you start addin everything up from the brakes to the box n diff not including suspension n engine .that seems like a fair price but ford did drop the ball on the v8 version in comparison to hsv this would hav shon for sure
It’s a complete package race car.. (-seats lol) super impressive handling
Wow. What a ride.
Proper beast
Great vid and that is a great car, love the looks and the sound, I certainly never knew this kit existed!
Glad you enjoyed it.. it’s a weapon
Love your channel bro. Keep killing it.
Thanks brother
An FGX GTHO with interior, bigger wheels/tyres over flared fenders, and the rest of these mods, would be worth huge dollars these days.....!!
Never knew about this kit, such a shame only 47 were ever fitted with the kit. There have always been rumors about the final GT being made including a few concept art pieces but never happened. I wonder if this kit might have been the what the final GT falcon would have been
Sadly not many people did know about it.. rare cars
Holy Grail is very cool, and while its able to rev to 7K its an over priced upgrade essentially. Herrods did (in 2016) and could probably still do an upgrade package that makes comparable power and more torque than a W557, suspension upgrades, trans tuning for about 10K less than the base Holy Grail upgrade of $24K, so about $14K and was still on 98 and no exhaust work. Necessary wheels and rubber are extra. Appreciate the engineering and compliance work but premcar is a company trying to make money filling a niche.
Its still running stock supercharger pulley which is abour 10PSI as to why you can't hear the supercharger😜‼️
Such a shame these weren’t FPV factory models. That 0-100 pull in 1st was quick!!
Fords biggest mistake 🥲
@@RossReviewsau - no that would was they sold the right to the name GT-HO way back in the mid 70's.
A larger mistake would be to walk away from the v8 market in 1983.
Oh wow, that 0-100 was insane
It’s absolutely rips.. first attempt
Did they upgrade the zf to handle the extra horses with this kit ? Good review man!
Sounded like it had a tune but I’m not actually sure
Wow ,now thats a Falcon ,great Vid :)
Probably the best
Wicked car👍🇦🇺🍻 could really see you enjoying that drive
I had fun 🤩
Looks and sounds incredible
It’s amazing
@@RossReviewsau definitely
Right up there with not making an FG X Falcon XR8 Ute because it would have looked awesome!
Agree they should of put gtp seats in it
Absolutely
Even the XR sprints should of come with GTP seats
@gtlegend007 not even the GTF got the GTP seats, which was silly
Really good review
Glad you enjoyed it
theres an xr8 sprint with the hg kit, probably the best version of thay car tbh
Love your vids as usual, are you going to do anymore vids on your car, would be great to see an update on it.
Update is coming soon I have done a little to it lately 👏
Great review, at $45K it was a hard sell, so not surprised only half sold, also other than the wheels it looks like a normal XR8 or GT.
Also, it wasn't exclusive to the FGX model, any Miami powered Falcon could get the kit, ie, FG GT, GS, GTP etc.
For 45k is a bit too much, for that money is could build an xr8 over 1000hp. There are places doing 1000hp kits for 25k and you will still have enough money left over.
For 600hp plus people are only paying 10k to 17k. Depends where you go.
I remember herrod did a package for 1000hp for 25k
If you do handling upgrade, 3k to 4k on suspension and 3k to 4k on Better brakes.
25k+14k= 39K, still much cheaper.
You could do your self.. I will say tho this package works very well.. it’s not “over powered” for its handling.. you can throw this thing at full speed into corners and it just grips
@@RossReviewsau if your cashed up and cant be bothered going from shop to shop, this one stop shop package is ideal for the right person who like it done in one hit at only one place. Good package just pricey.
Does it have an anti - hop kit and FP half shafts . That would help reduce the wheel spin . Plus 335 rear tyres….
sounds amazing. this would have been Australia's M5 eater.
It’s a monster car
Cool vid Ross that FG-X is insane. I wonder what happened to the other 53 kits.
When the XA GT-HO p4 was canned they had heaps of left over parts that I've heard found their way into normal GT's & Fairlane's etc.
RPO 83
they were made to order so if they stopped at 47 then that's it, remember these Premcar kits are not "official" Ford backed and Premcar waited until the 3 year warranty has ended for all FG and FG-X before they even announced that the "Holy grail" kits could be installed as Ford Australia probably told them that owners would loose warranty if they did mods to the vehicles.
It's the same thing that happened to Peter Brock "HDT" when GMH told them no to the VL Commodore getting IRS for the Director and other Commodores that HDTwanted to do, the difference here is that Premcar waited Peter did not and thus would of voided warranty of those cars he did mod (some 14 that converted).
Absolutely amazing car
Absolute beast
How much are these worth now?? Damn what a car, does the owner have a channel? I’d love to see some quarter miles and track days.
Don’t think there are any for sale but they would be expensive no doubt
Also would love to know the offset on those wheels. Will be in the market for an XRT soon and wheels will be the first mod.
I want one i want one i want one. 🤣🤣👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
It’s an amazing machine
Fold the back seats down to improve the interior exhaust sound 🙂
Could help
I guess
We all need to bother premcar enough so they'll start making spare parts for these (i wil buy all the parts and build one myself)
They are still in business I think.. just modify other models now.. not as exciting 🥲
Always a good day when Ross uploads :))
🙏👑
Would of loved to see a hellcat charger included they're a weapon.
I might be showing one off soon
Started out seeking fortune and glory…
This is how the FG Boss 335 should have sounded.
💯😮💨
I do agree... No interior mods for that $$$
Needed at least seats
Are Premcar discontinued same as our beloved Aussie Holden's and Fords ?
I think so but Herod is the next closest thing I believe
Fords biggest mistake was to NOT use the 351 'Trinity' V8 from the 2013 GT500 in the Falcon.
That would have been epic
Time to do a xh panel van review❤❤
Is that 483kw at the flywheel ?
Cause the xr8 is known for over 400kw at the wheels with just a tune and some injectors.
I’m pretty sure that is to the wheels.. as there is a dyno sheet in the engine bay..
The Miami can make 600whp with just injectors fuel pump and tune
I think you blokes are handling the truth carelessly 😂
Had a friend who predicted the end of ford and holden back in the 90s. We mocked him a lot. In fact, we mocked him for so many things that ended up coming true. It was fun and easy being in a team where any uncomfortable thoughts were dismissed as 'conspiracy theories', and I find thinking exhausting anyway. We never apologized to him, and probably never will.
RIP so sad we lost the industry here
IMO that was the best looking ford model bar none
They are aggressive
Yes they are , in the rear view mirror they look menacing with the Day time running light on.
No their greatest mistake was no investment and not fixing the issues that plagued the falcon and territory for their whole life.
Is that central coast I wanna hit those roads and mod the w1 ya gunna kick that things arse
Was in NSW an hour and a bit out of Sydney
Lol you have to mod a w1 to beat car with a performance package that’s still 73 thousand dollars less then what a w1 was new ???
Hey Ross how does it compare to the blue manual you reviewed? How do you like the zf in the xr8’s?
Thanks
I prefer the manual feel.. but this car is insane for speed.. much quicker in a ZF (for 99% of drivers)
Nice Gen 1 Coyote / Miami. Went from 335KW to 480KW. Thought ZF 6 automatic from factory can only handle 420-430 Kilowatts max. Any-who love the Grunt and wine of 5.0 Super-charge coyote.
Weekend cars great manuel. But if drive most days n the city auto for me.
Fair point! Also racing would probably prefer ZF
Is that power at the wheels or engine sir ?
I believe wheels
That is how a V8 should sound.
Absolutely
Advise the owner Targa Great Barrier Reef is on in September 1-3 , I'll seem him with my WH Grange 😎👍
Might see them there!
@@RossReviewsau early bird entry closed May 26
Are kits still available
Don’t believe so
Great car don't get me wrong but com'on 45k for some upgrades ok $25k i get it.
Gotta pay to play
@@RossReviewsau Very True,But don't be taken by the backside aswell cause some ex FPV engineers are doing it.😉
My old man had an fg gt with the supercharged coyote made 550rwhp with an exhaust and tune…. Absolutely nuts. Wish he had kept it but he sold it off for a measly 40k
🥲 damn.. they are a monster of an engine
So thats 480 flywheel KW❓️My manual Sprint makes almost 450RWKW with injectors & a tune on PCMTEC. Way too overpriced for 40K & I didn't even pay close to 1% of that value for my tune🤷🏼♂️⁉️
@kalsp Nice❗️ Mine only has injectors, fuel pump & tune @ 440RWKW, what PSI you running with the Yella Terra snout❓️
I’m sure this is to the wheels.. it has the dyno graph in the engine bay.. also just injectors fuel pump and a tune will get you about 600whp in a Miami
@@RossReviewsau I'm pretty sure it's 483 fly wheel kw aye, would love to see one run on a hub dyno.
Would sell my t3 te50 in a heartbeat for a manual 335 gt or sprint
Manual 💯
❤ what an absolute beast of a car.
absolute dream
I would rather a HSV then spending 45k on that..The seats are trash looking.
The ford doesnt even have a body kit.
W1 was nearly double the price remember and less hp (does look much better tho)
They seriously needed a body kit
Maybe cause ford were on the verge of folding spent money on the mechanical side more then exterior and interior then
There were a few people in the wa fpv collective but they also couldnt justify the price
It’s pricy
Nice car and kit. But for that money a HSV GTSR W1 was bettter because it was all OEM.
Also the LS9 the one that comes in the W1 that is a bone stock out of the factory crate engine LS9. No mods have been done to it.
So imagine company like premcar took the W1 and did the same work that premcar did imagine how much power that LS9 would make?
In the states we have LS9 with just a pulley and intake and header and exhaust and tune with is just bolt ons making over 1000 rwhp
Not shitting on the Ford. One amzing car. But you habe to give credit where its due. The W1 is one amazing machine in stock form if your comparing a car with extensive mods to it. Just saying bro.
Agreed sadly for should have made this from factory not a separate add on 🥲
@@RossReviewsau yeh it was alot for an add on. But hey seem worth it. Just wish Ford did this from factory
Sup G 335 coyote
Sounds nuts...
Love the sound of a Miami
I wish they made them here
Only Australia & NZ sadly
Hey want my car on your channel?
Got a 2016 Chrysler 300 SRT 6.4L with a Procharger D-1X on it, pushing 878whp along with hellcat lifters, stage 2 cam MDS delete and rods using the 8 speed gearbox.
Beaten
M5 Competition (Stock) destroyed it
C63 S (Stage 1 kit) he got eaten alive
335i N54 Single turbo with 650hp, he got beaten
subi wrx sti 2016 (stock) eaten easily obviously.
M2 S55 engine stage 3 built (Close at first then I pulled quickly)
Holden W1 GTS-R (love these) but he got pretty much destroyed lol
( a lot more )
I've got beaten by
1200hp Ironz RS3 8V (That shit was fast but would of kept up if it was a 60km/h roll not from a stand still 😂😂
(Only car I've got beaten by but I was pulling on top end very quickly)
Where are you located? Would love to see that 😮💨 shoot me a message on fb or instagram
I must say it, You're like a kid with a new toy, hee hee. Half ya luck buddy
Love it what's it worth$$$
$45k for the upgrade
Fords biggest mistake was they didnt make Holdens.
this could have been the answer to the GTSR W1..
Who ever thought of pops and bangs should be in jail.V8 cars should not sound like a fart
This is not wanky at all.. it’s over run.. natural sound of a hard working V8.. something like the C63S can sound artificial that’s one don’t like but I would argue this engine sounds amazing for a modern V8
I just want one 😂
yup!
Says who
Didnt like the stylin. Bit few years i do. Shame tey gone. Mustang yer. But na
nobody noticin that it kinda looks like a ford mustang
that thing sounds sexy
They sound epic
@@RossReviewsau Hell yes. Now I want one
For what they asked for this package is highway robbery.
It was expensive
@@RossReviewsau Yeah it is, If it was around 15k i would've got it done maybe.
Until you drive it, you would never know that it is worth every cent.
When you can throw this car into turn 1 at Eastern Creek at 205kmh, then you know where your money has gone.
Still has not defeated the VF GTS 557 at 735hp
Would be interesting on dyno tho
@@RossReviewsaugo test it
100 grand for a taxi no thanks
Definitely not a taxi 🚕
If all taxis are like this.
Then I want one.
Doesn't look like a W1...lol...if looks can kill with the W1...ya goofy m8te from Australia
It’s more sleeper
John absolutely love your reviews. No matter which car you are reviewing you are more than fair. But you really have to stop these silly noises that you make while reviewing. Just sounds like a young boy/girl still in their puberty phase. Now go and find a few more V8’s or I will make you review my little V8.
It’s my natural reaction I can’t control 🙃
@edthomas How about you stop judging and let Johnny be himself.
Don't watch if you can't handle Johnny being happy and enjoying himself. Johnny has a job that he clearly loves. Not many people can honestly say they love their job but Johnny loves his and that's all that matters.💯
@@victorpeirce4753 And I hope that you enjoy your job as much as him so I can hear you making such sounds as well
@@edthomas8486 Don't watch then. 🤡
@@victorpeirce4753 oh victor pierce. You are probably a nice person but not too smart. It’s ok-it happens. Maybe I can take you around the mountain a couple of times and then you will see how we qualified and good looking guys make sure that things are great. I guess that not all of us have the opportunity to really do things for ourselves so enjoy what we have.