It was definitely designed. They designed it for the formats where free spells are generally considered bullshit and not for the ones where they aren't.
@servantofcygnus IMO, if Hasbro is going to push power level into the stratosphere in order to rotate Modern and generate shareholder value, they should also be designing with other officially supported formats. Otherwise they're just being irresponsible and should officially drop support for Legacy and Vintage.
Round 4 against Dredge, I'm pretty sure Memory's Journey works the way you want it to. IIRC the caster of a spell choses all targets, so you get to target your opponent, and the three dredegers in their graveyard, and they have to shuffle them in to their library (MJ doesn't have any clause that allows the targeted player to opt out). Check me, but I'm 90% confident. EDIT: Just rewatched for verification, and never mind. lol You were looking to target both players, not nuking their dredgers. :D The card, indeed, does not work how you wanted it to.
First..? No an actual question what do you think about Mystic Forge post ban? I haven't played Legacy in a while and I'm attending a tournament in a couple of weeks and I was thorn on what to play
Anyone else on the page the horizon sets should be made Un-sets for tournament legality? Too much, even with multiple rounds of bans, still overly dominating every format.
Grief was and is needed all the time, the current and recent past legacy bans where decided due to the crying of boomers who should switch to pre modern
Your Statement to the percentages of the top decks is not really accurate... You should have switched the "30 Days" to "7 Days" because the banns are only 10 days old. When you filter for 30 Days you just have the meta game with the banned cards /decks, but they are just cuttet out.
Okay so get rid of Nadu and Legacy goes back to being the same as it ever was? It’s kind of a double edged sword cuz the card is probably going to prove to be too strong, but then we re-enter the same format legacy has always been, except with new toys. Idk just feels like us Legacy players are only ever comfortable with the state of the format if Delver is the best deck, but maybe that’s NOT a bad thing? Just an interesting conversation to have
Delver being the best is a good thing. It means slow game plans with lots of interaction are viable. The problem with the format pre-ban (and probably post-ban too) is that combo is way too strong. Nadu in particular is miserable to play against because its nondeterministic and can realistically fizzle
@Swoodivarius I may be prejudiced as a long-time breakfast player, but in paper at least you can resolve Nadu triggers pretty fast with a little practice. On mtgo there's a chess clock so not being fast with it is actively detrimental anyway. People should also just learn to scoop when their opponent is drawing 5+ cards per turn and they see them drawing multiple answers.
@@Lauke101this. The only time Nadu is tedious and non-deterministic is when Nantuko is involved, otherwise it is a straight draw 8-12+ cards which should be conceeded to by a large portion of the field. Nadu is a problem card in legacy and will be banned in the next 3-6 months but in some of its shells - including Breakfast - the play patterns are not as problematic as they are made out to be.
"Vexing Bauble was designed" - generous!
It was definitely designed. They designed it for the formats where free spells are generally considered bullshit and not for the ones where they aren't.
@servantofcygnus IMO, if Hasbro is going to push power level into the stratosphere in order to rotate Modern and generate shareholder value, they should also be designing with other officially supported formats. Otherwise they're just being irresponsible and should officially drop support for Legacy and Vintage.
Lmao
Bought this deck the day the bans dropped!
Excited to play it at the LGS this weekend :)))
Match 1 was a big mess
Mud Bloon strikes again!
Round 4 against Dredge, I'm pretty sure Memory's Journey works the way you want it to. IIRC the caster of a spell choses all targets, so you get to target your opponent, and the three dredegers in their graveyard, and they have to shuffle them in to their library (MJ doesn't have any clause that allows the targeted player to opt out). Check me, but I'm 90% confident.
EDIT: Just rewatched for verification, and never mind. lol You were looking to target both players, not nuking their dredgers. :D The card, indeed, does not work how you wanted it to.
Are we getting a "12 Days of BOSHmas" now?
breakfast pack ceph em if you lid em
Was this recorded during "all access" event? Also thanks for video
First..?
No an actual question what do you think about Mystic Forge post ban?
I haven't played Legacy in a while and I'm attending a tournament in a couple of weeks and I was thorn on what to play
Forge is still good, there’s lots of lists still winning on Goldfish or Mtgtop8
I want to play at the buffalo chicken dip in Columbus. But I don’t know what to play. Having a hard time finding a deck I enjoy playing.
Boomer Bant would be fun
Anyone else on the page the horizon sets should be made Un-sets for tournament legality? Too much, even with multiple rounds of bans, still overly dominating every format.
Where's the EGGnog
29:00 Alright here we go gang!
The “”mmmm” at the beginning before the nerd voice kicks in always makes me laugh
Which Phil…😑
Am I insane for thinking grief would save the format?
Grief was and is needed all the time, the current and recent past legacy bans where decided due to the crying of boomers who should switch to pre modern
Yes
@@mircodurrbaum9064calling everyone who disagrees with you a big baby doesn’t make your argument cogent
@@alecwoodard9464 yoko Ono wants to argue,,, 2024 wild times 4 sure
@@mircodurrbaum9064Bad troll is bad. We're still making Yoko jokes in 2024?
Your Statement to the percentages of the top decks is not really accurate... You should have switched the "30 Days" to "7 Days" because the banns are only 10 days old. When you filter for 30 Days you just have the meta game with the banned cards /decks, but they are just cuttet out.
Okay so get rid of Nadu and Legacy goes back to being the same as it ever was? It’s kind of a double edged sword cuz the card is probably going to prove to be too strong, but then we re-enter the same format legacy has always been, except with new toys. Idk just feels like us Legacy players are only ever comfortable with the state of the format if Delver is the best deck, but maybe that’s NOT a bad thing? Just an interesting conversation to have
Delver being the best is a good thing. It means slow game plans with lots of interaction are viable. The problem with the format pre-ban (and probably post-ban too) is that combo is way too strong. Nadu in particular is miserable to play against because its nondeterministic and can realistically fizzle
@ Yeah pace of play should have stood out to me as like the #1 reason.
@Swoodivarius I may be prejudiced as a long-time breakfast player, but in paper at least you can resolve Nadu triggers pretty fast with a little practice. On mtgo there's a chess clock so not being fast with it is actively detrimental anyway. People should also just learn to scoop when their opponent is drawing 5+ cards per turn and they see them drawing multiple answers.
@@Lauke101this. The only time Nadu is tedious and non-deterministic is when Nantuko is involved, otherwise it is a straight draw 8-12+ cards which should be conceeded to by a large portion of the field. Nadu is a problem card in legacy and will be banned in the next 3-6 months but in some of its shells - including Breakfast - the play patterns are not as problematic as they are made out to be.
I think they should errata nadu to “once per turn” and keep it legal.
My first thought seeing the card was "twice per turn flat right? Not per creature? Not twice per turn per creature right?"
If your solution is nerf to the point of a functional ban, then it's not actually better than an actual ban, is it?