Why this creepy melody is in so many movies

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
  • This deathly 13th-century song shows up everywhere.
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    Correction: Mozart’s Requiem isn’t a symphony, it’s a requiem: a type of Catholic mass for the dead. It was initially written for mass but later popularized and performed outside the church, as was Verdi's.
    Think back to some of the most dramatic scenes in film history - from The Lion King, The Shining, It’s a Wonderful Life. Besides being sad or scary, they have something else in common: the dies irae. “Dies irae” translates from Latin to “Day of Wrath” - it’s a 13th-century Gregorian chant describing the day Catholics believe God will judge the living and the dead and send them to heaven or hell. And it was sung during one specific mass: funerals.
    As Catholicism permeated world culture, the melody of the chant was repurposed into classical music, where it was used to convey a deathly, eerie tone. From there it worked its way into films - and if you don’t already know it, you’ve almost certainly heard it before: It’s played over and over in our scariest and most dramatic cinematic moments.
    Here’s Alex Ludwig’s original supercut of movies featuring the dies irae: • Video
    There are so many references to the dies irae in classical music that we couldn’t include. One is Sergei Rachmaninoff’s 1908 “symphonic poem” Isle of the Dead ( • Rachmaninov: The Isle ... . He was inspired by this painting from Swiss artist Arnold Böcklin that shows a coffin and white figure on their way to a small island (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of....
    Alex briefly touched on the differences between the ancient dorian mode and the modern minor mode. There’s a ton written online about them, but here’s a good place to start if you’re curious: www.musical-u.com/learn/get-f...
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  • @Vox
    @Vox  4 года назад +14994

    Correction: Mozart’s Requiem isn’t a symphony, it’s a requiem: a type of Catholic mass for the dead. It was initially written for mass but later popularized and performed outside the church, as was Verdi's.

    • @Montcalf091
      @Montcalf091 4 года назад +181

      Thanks for the correction

    • @brendan95delany
      @brendan95delany 4 года назад +111

      @Vox What about Verdi's Messa da Requiem?

    • @Vox
      @Vox  4 года назад +214

      @@brendan95delany same thing! edited the correction to reflect that.

    • @thesenescentsunfish6185
      @thesenescentsunfish6185 4 года назад +7

      My band and I make music , we would appreciate if anyone listened

    • @RandomStuff991
      @RandomStuff991 4 года назад +6

      Where can I find Prof. Ludwig’s written list?

  • @Kriegter
    @Kriegter 4 года назад +9080

    so this is what 'Play this song at my funeral' sounded like in middle ages

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 3 года назад +7171

    In Home Alone, the Dies Irae theme plays every time Kevin sees Old Man Marley. But when they meet at the church and Kevin finds out he's not a serial killer, the music switches to Carol of the Bells, which uses the same four notes!

    • @madeniquevanwyk
      @madeniquevanwyk 3 года назад +297

      okay you've convinced me, time to watch it again

    • @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075
      @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 3 года назад +96

      that is interesting

    • @Islaras
      @Islaras 3 года назад +63

      That's interesting indeed

    • @kiana_bon_vivant
      @kiana_bon_vivant 3 года назад +45

      i knew ittt omg i thought i remembered those notes playing in the first home alone movie

    • @gaoelnlaojehc8913
      @gaoelnlaojehc8913 3 года назад +30

      How in all possibilities someone out there knew something about this? Im totally confused.

  • @leewolf6434
    @leewolf6434 2 года назад +443

    Can we just appreciate that monks in the 13 century so perfectly captivated a mood that it’s still used to this day!!! Pure genius.

    • @Bhatt_Hole
      @Bhatt_Hole Год назад +14

      Not everything is "genius", though that word sure does get thrown around a lot. Maybe it was genius. Or, not. Perhaps it's only because it was used so much, and in these specific ways, that we simply learned those associations. And had it been something very different they wrote, we'd have become conditioned to say/feel these same things about it which we are now saying about the Dies Irae. Why else would music in different cultures (especially those with a very different scale systems) arouse feelings and moods in the listeners from those countries which are not felt by us? Learned neurological hard-wiring beats the snot out of instinctual ones.

    • @nickjackagliata8323
      @nickjackagliata8323 Год назад +8

      We have learned to associate the melody through years of repeated use. So the monks had the least effect on its popularization. Every single person who decided to use the melody after had the collective goal of making it a strong association.

    • @flaguser4196
      @flaguser4196 Год назад +3

      No.

    • @nenabunena
      @nenabunena 9 месяцев назад +18

      Lol anti Catholics can't even give Catholic monks their due.

    • @racheldsouza8895
      @racheldsouza8895 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@nenabunenaliterally was about to comment this. And dies irae is like a speck from the vast treasure Catholicism contributed over centuries.

  • @SpencerReam
    @SpencerReam 2 года назад +1905

    This is actually used a lot in Squid Game as well. The "death" song that plays includes this sequence of notes.

    • @dediamkaming
      @dediamkaming 2 года назад +80

      Yeah, the "Pink Soldiers" track.

    • @gettothepoint2707
      @gettothepoint2707 2 года назад +6

      Yeah!

    • @andy-gamer
      @andy-gamer 2 года назад +2

      @Adolf Hitler i found out before the short

    • @tomchch
      @tomchch 2 года назад +1

      Is it actually?

    • @lambrown608
      @lambrown608 2 года назад +7

      Who wants to be a Millionaire as well

  • @jayclawwit6489
    @jayclawwit6489 4 года назад +14635

    Vox answers questions I don't ask myself but I'm kinda interested so, I'm here...

  • @Blueeyesinthesky
    @Blueeyesinthesky 4 года назад +2400

    It’s used in Mulan too when the Huns are getting ready to strike

    • @freakishlyfeline
      @freakishlyfeline 4 года назад +42

      LET'S GO KICK SOME HUNNY BUNS! :p

    • @MizzWGGrrrl
      @MizzWGGrrrl 4 года назад +24

      Oooh, now I gotta re-watch "Mulan" for that reason! (But I'll take just about any reason to re-watch a favorite movie.)

    • @christiang3576
      @christiang3576 4 года назад +8

      LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS, TO DEFEAT THE HUNS!

    • @artsyebonyrose
      @artsyebonyrose 4 года назад +1

      @@MizzWGGrrrl same dude haha

    • @jessicazeller8060
      @jessicazeller8060 4 года назад

      YAAAAAAAAS.

  • @j-me79
    @j-me79 Год назад +90

    Regarding the minor key...years ago I was in a psychiatric ward for a time. There was a piano in the common area, and I played it often because we only had music during art therapy. Almost every song I know & love to play is in the minor key, and one of the other patients asked me why I didn't play many "happy" songs. I told him that if I tended towards happy songs I probably wouldn't be where I was right then.

  • @Albeit_Jordan
    @Albeit_Jordan Год назад +147

    0:29 If you move those notes down one to the key of C, you get the Disney channel four-note-mnemonic melody theme
    yes I did just come here from the defunctland video on alex lasarenko

  • @mollyrocksinmygreentea9829
    @mollyrocksinmygreentea9829 4 года назад +35277

    bruh time for my daily unnecessary knowledge

    • @thomdotexe
      @thomdotexe 4 года назад +317

      true, haven't learned anything useful or interesting in a vox earworm video since the giant steps one.

    • @zoacynic1365
      @zoacynic1365 4 года назад +40

      Spot on.

    • @saxyrep1
      @saxyrep1 4 года назад +179

      It is useful here if you write music for TV or film. 😇

    • @nickzardiashvili624
      @nickzardiashvili624 4 года назад +222

      Unnecessary knowledge is the best.

    • @JLchevz
      @JLchevz 4 года назад +3

      haha

  • @javierhernandez1555
    @javierhernandez1555 4 года назад +5064

    Frozen’s 2 gets added as basically the plot progression.

    • @imnty97
      @imnty97 4 года назад +7

      Sure thing

    • @calebjackson3895
      @calebjackson3895 4 года назад +79

      Why tf didn't they make the mother the villain?!? Even the leitmotif set it up perfectly!

    • @aqua5459
      @aqua5459 4 года назад +125

      I see it as foreshadowing, that the "ah ah ah ah" calling Elsa is this tune, signifying that someone dead is probably calling her (i.e. Her mother)

    • @GellertTV
      @GellertTV 4 года назад +2

      @@maya_yaser OH MY GOD AHHHHH

    • @Bryangenn30
      @Bryangenn30 4 года назад +3

      im about to say this,, but yeah the Frozen 2 has this melody...

  • @serenitywingss
    @serenitywingss 3 года назад +248

    the dies irae is also the Dead by Daylight main theme, as well as Frozen 2's Into The Unknown back vocal

    • @Kudos_OG
      @Kudos_OG 2 года назад +7

      Yeah! And also the menu music for simulacra!

    • @bravenkirok3142
      @bravenkirok3142 2 года назад +19

      looks like i'm five months late noticing. I just posted about the DbD reference

    • @DungeonTracks
      @DungeonTracks 2 года назад +3

      Well, not quite the dbd theme (due to the rhythms), but I'd still say it's close enough in overall form to count.

    • @onsidedolphin5283
      @onsidedolphin5283 2 года назад +2

      yep just about to comment that

    • @thisismyusernameidk
      @thisismyusernameidk 2 года назад +2

      making Christmas, making Christmas

  • @orangutan.manusiawan
    @orangutan.manusiawan Год назад +155

    3:51 I like how "The Shining" is probably one of the scariest horro movies but then the intro looks like it was made from power point but still somehow managed to look menacing

    • @Nakilon
      @Nakilon 7 месяцев назад

      Saying that Shining is a horror film is just a meme that people keep repeating after each other in hope to get upvotes.

    • @Mattstak
      @Mattstak 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@Nakilonredditor spotted

    • @leavingitblank9363
      @leavingitblank9363 Месяц назад

      @@Nakilon What do you call it? And what's your definition of a horror film.

  • @VOLAIRE
    @VOLAIRE 4 года назад +8114

    Pretty much the longest ongoing meme in music

    • @banaway313
      @banaway313 4 года назад +101

      I feel like ive seen you everywhere i go

    • @shanettequao9043
      @shanettequao9043 4 года назад +25

      𝕍𝕆𝕃𝔸𝕀ℝ𝔼 yeah basically innit

    • @sebastianszyperski1886
      @sebastianszyperski1886 4 года назад +56

      This and the licc. But the licc is much much younger.

    • @Inflake
      @Inflake 4 года назад +8

      So true

    • @augusto7681
      @augusto7681 4 года назад +30

      This isnt a meme. Maybe an easter egg

  • @peachy3153
    @peachy3153 4 года назад +6271

    “Remember when Mufasa died?”
    *immediately shuts laptop and cries*

  • @magicaltour1
    @magicaltour1 Год назад +24

    The opening notes of “Music of the Night” from “Phantom of the Opera” has those notes too. It works, since the Phantom has essentially brought Christine into the Underworld!

  • @thesterndragoon9159
    @thesterndragoon9159 2 года назад +71

    It's the core melody repeated over and over as a sort of musical score march in "Making Christmas" from The Nightmare Before Christmas. They actually manage to create a kind of inverse or bizarro "happy song" out of it because the monsters of Halloween Town are trying to 'benevolently' take over Christmas, but their actions foreshadow disaster because they don't understand it. It's an absolutely brilliant way of communicating that the monsters are inadvertently "killing Christmas".

    • @jonathanmaybaum4167
      @jonathanmaybaum4167 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah the second I heard the melody, that was the song that came right to mind!

    • @judaronen
      @judaronen 7 месяцев назад

      @@jonathanmaybaum4167
      Same here 💀

    • @leavingitblank9363
      @leavingitblank9363 Месяц назад

      Everything about the movie is brilliant.

  • @victoriajenkins1424
    @victoriajenkins1424 3 года назад +2083

    *Death has it’s own theme music*
    That makes more sense than it should.

    • @RobFeldkamp
      @RobFeldkamp 2 года назад +22

      if anything, i guess death would. Study requiems...they are literally awesome. (edit: 1:53...nvm)

    • @scratchpad7954
      @scratchpad7954 Год назад +2

      Does this theme play when a certain S3XY wolf enters the room in The Last Wish?

    • @an-animal-lover
      @an-animal-lover 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@scratchpad7954thar would be so freaking fitting if the case

    • @Military.FutureUrbanCamo
      @Military.FutureUrbanCamo 8 месяцев назад

      @@an-animal-lover dark

    • @Alestrix76
      @Alestrix76 7 месяцев назад

      its != it's

  • @ecxoshard
    @ecxoshard Год назад +43

    it's referenced in the song "Making Christmas" from Nightmare before Christmas, mostly the chorus.

    • @oracle627
      @oracle627 Год назад

      Also a little park of jack’s lament

  • @madrigal1956
    @madrigal1956 8 месяцев назад +9

    You can hear this melody in quite a lot of classical music works : Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique, Rachmaninoff's Isle of the Dead and Paganini Rhapsody, Liszt's Totentanz, Saint-Saëns's Danse Macabre, among manyh others. It apperas also in Bergman's film "the seventh seal".

    • @wcsxwcsx
      @wcsxwcsx 7 месяцев назад

      Those notes are the motif that permeates the entirety of Rachmaninoff's First Symphony.

  • @OnEwHoRiDesLinEs
    @OnEwHoRiDesLinEs 4 года назад +2216

    Vox knows how to construct an opener: “here’s four music notes that humans know mean death, and here’s why they mean death”

    • @c0smoKram3r
      @c0smoKram3r 4 года назад +25

      Stopped watching at 1:16 because that's all I needed!

    • @JeromeProductions
      @JeromeProductions 3 года назад +1

      Indeed. (1000th like)

    • @sofiacapella
      @sofiacapella 3 года назад +14

      And now those four notes are also in Elsa's song Into the Unknown from Frozen 2. I bet those monks from the Middle Ages never imagined it.

    • @randomgirlthatisadino3890
      @randomgirlthatisadino3890 3 года назад +6

      @@c0smoKram3r I'm watching the whole thing because why not I want knowledge

    • @SonofPerson
      @SonofPerson 3 года назад +2

      Except this was stolen from another uploader.

  • @eligil4629
    @eligil4629 4 года назад +7267

    This is literally the ‘Siren call’ in frozen 2

    • @jennamcguire6281
      @jennamcguire6281 4 года назад +528

      i was wondering why it made me feel so sentimental. I had like a weird connection to it. wow

    • @imnty97
      @imnty97 4 года назад +142

      And that's why I'm here bruh

    • @werewolf1806
      @werewolf1806 4 года назад +115

      I told my wife about that. We went to see it yesterday and immediately, once the played for the first time, I remembered this video.

    • @seangoh4337
      @seangoh4337 4 года назад +21

      That is what I thought

    • @gamingchamp6728
      @gamingchamp6728 4 года назад +11

      Oh i juat realized

  • @oxitape1563
    @oxitape1563 3 года назад +6

    Dies Irae is also used in the main theme for the game Dead by Daylight

  • @summerbayexile
    @summerbayexile 7 месяцев назад +2

    This is absolutely fascinating. I am definitely going to listen for it from now on!

  • @jacobren9616
    @jacobren9616 4 года назад +1851

    Okay this is creepy
    In my choir class we are singing “making christmas” from nightmare before Christmas and it has these notes. My choir teacher JUST talked about this today what it says in this video and now I got home open RUclips and this is on my recommended

  • @jfncho
    @jfncho 4 года назад +4170

    Dies irae: 2020's theme song.

    • @BB-hx4mj
      @BB-hx4mj 3 года назад +11

      Couldn’t agree more😂😂

    • @desireedickson2057
      @desireedickson2057 3 года назад +42

      That's almost how my name is pronounced 🤔😬

    • @meadowdream9144
      @meadowdream9144 3 года назад +11

      @@desireedickson2057 lol yes it does! Sorry I'm laughing with you...not at you.

    • @shark7186
      @shark7186 3 года назад

      lol

    • @iealdb9415
      @iealdb9415 3 года назад +1

      @@desireedickson2057 it does 😂😂😂

  • @donutdude6918
    @donutdude6918 Год назад +26

    i sang the song "dies irae" in choir and its one of my favorite songs ive done

  • @kdpowers
    @kdpowers 2 года назад +5

    Came here after the tower in Westworld S4

  • @kekus_blickus
    @kekus_blickus 4 года назад +1877

    When you realize, that the Shining theme is in Star Wars:
    "Here's Johnny!" "Hello there"

  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 4 года назад +3665

    *I actually never noticed the melody*
    Until I watched this video

    • @AFFI909
      @AFFI909 4 года назад +32

      You would be surprised at what else we dont notice. Subliminals all over the place, and some truth mixed with lies

    • @Super-qr7wm
      @Super-qr7wm 4 года назад +5

      Exactly . Keyword -creepy . So now its suddenly creepy :)

    • @matrixfull
      @matrixfull 4 года назад +7

      I actually never noticed that I am suppose to be creeped out by that melody lol.

    • @tonywasikhongo7510
      @tonywasikhongo7510 4 года назад +3

      I think I noticed it on a subconscious level

    • @Super-qr7wm
      @Super-qr7wm 4 года назад +3

      @@matrixfull word science my friend . Heres another one . Justice . Just-ice . Courts rooms take years while collecting your money with no results . So your case is JUST on ICE . Have a wonder-full day :)

  • @ronaldl9085
    @ronaldl9085 Год назад +8

    Amazing! Thanks for sharing this.

  • @Shane-music
    @Shane-music 2 года назад +2

    This actually helped me with a song I am creating. Thanks!

  • @niyaboyd3805
    @niyaboyd3805 4 года назад +337

    I just realized something:
    In the Nightmare before Christmas, Jack sings a song called Jacks Lament. In the song, the start of the chorus, “Oh somewhere deep...” is the same four notes in this video. The whole movie is associated with death, so it was pretty genius on the composers side.

    • @kjcorder
      @kjcorder 2 года назад +28

      That would be Danny Elfman who yes. Is a musical genius and I'm sure it was intentional

    • @ghostboogie
      @ghostboogie 2 года назад +9

      It is also in the fight with Jack and Oogie Boogie

    • @jojogarcia8766
      @jojogarcia8766 2 года назад +4

      Danny Elfman my dude is the best

    • @Fact_core
      @Fact_core 2 года назад +16

      Pretty sure it’s In making Christmas also

    • @gameygeemer4142
      @gameygeemer4142 Год назад +5

      Making Christmas is almost nothing but the Dies Irae

  • @deckarddwizardd1909
    @deckarddwizardd1909 3 года назад +2299

    I just realized this sounds like Frozen 2, the sound that makes Elsa anxious

    • @fangirl_43
      @fangirl_43 3 года назад +289

      Yes, the composers actually used the Dies Irae intentionally.

    • @nengnakumakanta
      @nengnakumakanta 3 года назад +19

      OMG

    • @scratcher-chan3905
      @scratcher-chan3905 3 года назад +7

      Oh my god I know-

    • @niiyubariiruhamusach.9102
      @niiyubariiruhamusach.9102 3 года назад +2

      You're not alone, dude

    • @spyfr33
      @spyfr33 3 года назад +21

      the fact that's what she heard, it makes me believe that if anna hadnt found her she would've died.

  • @EDMS
    @EDMS 2 года назад +12

    The Krampus Theme (Krampus Karol of the Bells) also has a variation of this notes! makes sense why it made me uncomfortable now lol.

  • @ferdabernstudios1187
    @ferdabernstudios1187 Год назад +20

    It’s also the theme in nightmare before Christmas

  • @erynnoconnor3462
    @erynnoconnor3462 4 года назад +308

    So, it's the musical version of a 'Wilhelm scream', even if it's far older than the trope itself. Fascinating.

  • @rixx46
    @rixx46 4 года назад +1316

    So interesting, thanks. It’s the “Wilhelm Scream” of music 😵

    • @Belioyt
      @Belioyt 4 года назад +1

      What's the 'Wilhelm Scream'?

    • @EricJern77
      @EricJern77 4 года назад +57

      If you like immersion in movies, don't look it up.

    • @mariaysuflor
      @mariaysuflor 4 года назад +30

      I literally heard it in my head as I read this comment 😂

    • @macuare
      @macuare 4 года назад +3

      Kipruto Bett remember when that storm trooper fell? That was is the Wilber scream.

    • @hw29472
      @hw29472 4 года назад +3

      Nah that's ""the lick"

  • @Salve_Regina8
    @Salve_Regina8 2 года назад +13

    I love hearing the Dies Iræ chanted during a Requiem Latin Mass.

    • @_Cato_
      @_Cato_ Год назад +4

      Latin Mass gang
      Dominus vobiscum!

    • @anonymoush9418
      @anonymoush9418 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! It’s such a beautiful chant. Personally i have never heard it in real life, so i have listened to it on yt. Yes, very beautiful indeed.

    • @Salve_Regina8
      @Salve_Regina8 8 месяцев назад

      @@_Cato_ yuppp! 💯

    • @Salve_Regina8
      @Salve_Regina8 8 месяцев назад

      @@anonymoush9418 it’s amazing!!!

  • @GoofballLtG
    @GoofballLtG 2 года назад +2

    That was fascinating thank you!

  • @tian9716
    @tian9716 4 года назад +3424

    Nobody:
    Vox: *spoils three of the most important movies ever in just 10 seconds*

    • @gabrieljreed
      @gabrieljreed 4 года назад +171

      Lol I love this and I hate to be that guy, but Luke's aunt/uncle dying isn't a super big spoiler

    • @icantthinkofanything798
      @icantthinkofanything798 4 года назад +83

      @@gabrieljreed technically it is, but it's one of those movies that's so insanely big that there's no way you haven't heard spoilers. I've not seen it's a wonderful life but I know the plot for that same reason.

    • @j.a.weishaupt1748
      @j.a.weishaupt1748 4 года назад +41

      Tian Right Here That “nobody” part is completely unnecessary.

    • @Alphae21
      @Alphae21 3 года назад +25

      Spoiler alert: grass is green 🙀🙀🙀

    • @wilmerbz
      @wilmerbz 3 года назад +5

      So, if you have not seen some of the most important movies ever, you might not even be interested, or you already saw them. They are very old, so... someone needs to catch up (not you, but whoever has not seen them)

  • @lewiscullen8236
    @lewiscullen8236 4 года назад +641

    Mozart's Requiem is not a symphony called Requiem. The Requiem is a genre in itself with a set text taken from the Requiem Mass - the same text set by Verdi (and many others). Neither is it "outside the church" as it was first performed at the funeral service of his commissioner.

    • @lewiscullen8236
      @lewiscullen8236 4 года назад +7

      Thanks for the correction and thanks for the content!

    • @derpina8330
      @derpina8330 4 года назад +3

      You forgot to fly away bruh

    • @ConcietedMuchXD
      @ConcietedMuchXD 4 года назад +12

      Vox stole this comment

  • @madjoe8622
    @madjoe8622 2 года назад +4

    5:10 that sounds like something I have heard in Death Note. So they used that too? Seems cool.

  • @maxibaer
    @maxibaer 2 года назад +1

    Very nice piece, cool research and examples! This was interesting, thanks!

  • @BAMMiE21
    @BAMMiE21 4 года назад +1860

    Wait.. isn’t that the “silent siren” from Frozen II?

    • @welp4576
      @welp4576 4 года назад +35

      Yes

    • @welp4576
      @welp4576 4 года назад +3

      randomgirlG it is!

    • @meaganentriken7491
      @meaganentriken7491 4 года назад +4

      Omg ur right

    • @bee-po1mr
      @bee-po1mr 4 года назад +36

      *AHHH AHHH AHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*

    • @TommyElijahCabelloReal
      @TommyElijahCabelloReal 4 года назад +27

      NO DON'T GIVE ME SPOILERS
      I HAVEN'T EVEN WATCHED ALL OF INFINITY WAR YET

  • @han-gyoulim6786
    @han-gyoulim6786 4 года назад +603

    The ballad of Sweeny Todd also has the Dies Irae motif.

    • @IlaughedIcried
      @IlaughedIcried 4 года назад +27

      OOH, the first four notes of "Swing your razor high, Sweeney" are that motif!!! You're right!

    • @assydrefluxx9941
      @assydrefluxx9941 4 года назад +19

      Yeah, and Epiphany is based off the Dies Irae too. Sondheim is such a genius

    • @ThomasGunnariRtting
      @ThomasGunnariRtting 4 года назад +22

      The first line in "not while I'm around" is actually the dies irae upside down (inverted), the whole score is based on the dies irae motif :D

    • @stanconnorstan4266
      @stanconnorstan4266 4 года назад +7

      @@ThomasGunnariRtting which is why Sondheim is a genius composer

    • @sxturnx_8767
      @sxturnx_8767 4 года назад +1

      Stephen is a genius, I swear

  • @artdonovandesign
    @artdonovandesign 2 года назад +1

    That's absolutely incredible! I never knew.

  • @brooklyngal6334
    @brooklyngal6334 3 года назад

    This was very interesting! Now i will look out for the notes too.

  • @Ella-ym2yq
    @Ella-ym2yq 4 года назад +68

    Basically the whole of the music written from the musical 'Sweeney Todd' uses the dies irae, the plot is so heavily based around death, it can be found in literally every song (with the exception of like 2). I find it so amazing how Sondheim finds a way to change the format of the dies irae (for example Ms Lovett's liet motif, it is basically the dies irae flipped upside down). I find the way that the dies irae sets the scene for the musical really amazing. I always find that when I listen to the music in Sweeney Todd it really does make me think of death. The dies irae is such an amazing piece in that sense that it link our thoughts to a event with just a few notes. There is a yt video by sideways which rlly explaines it better and has a whole video on it and explains it way better.

    • @Malik-Ibi
      @Malik-Ibi 4 года назад

      There is a video about it.

  • @christonchua5188
    @christonchua5188 4 года назад +411

    Mozart's Requiem wasn't a symphony but a mass, even though it's impact still lives on to today.

    • @razzmatazz1974
      @razzmatazz1974 4 года назад

      a funeral mass

    • @obviouslytwo4u
      @obviouslytwo4u 4 года назад

      What drugs are you on I will have double of what you're having

  • @invertedpizza7662
    @invertedpizza7662 2 года назад

    I've been looking for this forever lol, I needed it lol

  • @robertortiz-wilson1588
    @robertortiz-wilson1588 2 месяца назад

    Really well done video!

  • @xXGrandclosingXx
    @xXGrandclosingXx 3 года назад +277

    I just realized this "dies irae" theme is also used in Dead by Daylight's main theme! Wow.

    • @Frank-mz3tt
      @Frank-mz3tt 3 года назад +7

      @@locrian1681 me too

    • @aka_bowers2046
      @aka_bowers2046 3 года назад +24

      Ahhh a person of culture, well played

    • @xXGrandclosingXx
      @xXGrandclosingXx 3 года назад +7

      @@aka_bowers2046 @locrian @Frank Haha thank you, thank you. Please remember to subscribe, SMASH the like button, and ring that bell - hashthag, NOTIFICATION SQUAD, let's GO! It's your boy, Grandclosing, giving you the freshest, hottest takes on Vox videos!
      ... I spend too much time on the internet.

    • @justajobro1266
      @justajobro1266 3 года назад +4

      It’s not death note too!

    • @loganhowlett8723
      @loganhowlett8723 2 года назад +2

      Thank god I’m not alone

  • @TheGreatandAlmightyPoob
    @TheGreatandAlmightyPoob 4 года назад +797

    absolutely NOBODY'S talking about how the melody is also in stairway to heaven?

    • @bmoklsc
      @bmoklsc 4 года назад +34

      Sung over the iconic guitar solo no less. Good catch.

    • @lentzdadjentlaman1348
      @lentzdadjentlaman1348 4 года назад +4

      Limelight really

    • @tingtingshiny2877
      @tingtingshiny2877 4 года назад +6

      The manager of the beatles said all notes have been played, its all just rewritten and copied. He compiled a cd in the late 98/99? , with robin williams, sean connery etc singing beatle songs...hope that helps in finding his name.

    • @Jonas-jr7oq
      @Jonas-jr7oq 4 года назад +8

      @@tingtingshiny2877 It was their producer, George Martin. Their Manager died in 1967.

    • @tingtingshiny2877
      @tingtingshiny2877 4 года назад +3

      @@Jonas-jr7oq thanks jonny, appreciate that, I was not a beatle fan, someone bought tht cd into our space...they bled beatle juice every where.... the best George of the group, their producer. His music discoveries had him recording the sound of water to the hidden sonics. The sound of water is a Gorgeous experience and off the charts of the deeps.

  • @teethonfire13
    @teethonfire13 Год назад +1

    I just started watching White Lotus and I thought I recognized the melody. It ended up taking my back to this video, it also uses the Dies Irae

  • @drpeppers2569
    @drpeppers2569 Год назад +48

    Dies Irae sounds exactly like the Carol of the Bells melody in D minor, which is a really happy carol.

    • @lilelly16
      @lilelly16 Год назад +12

      It doesn't sound like a happy Carol to me, though - I always found it haunting and mesmerizing.

    • @SteveSensenig
      @SteveSensenig 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@lilelly16 I think that part of the reason is the change in rhythm. Instead of 4 equal-length ominous sounding notes, the two middle notes are twice as fast, putting the melody in 3/4 instead of 4/4, and it's usually played at a faster tempo anyway -- all of which counters the built-in historical sadness and grief of the original dies irae

    • @JhadeSagrav
      @JhadeSagrav 7 месяцев назад +1

      I just figured this out yesterday when I was wondering why that Christmas carol is so friggin THREATENING and hummed it slowly and BROSKIE THAT IS THE DIES IRAE WHY WOULD YOU MAKE THAT A CAROL!?!

  • @mat2468xk
    @mat2468xk 4 года назад +374

    "Alex Ludwig, a musicologist."
    Ludwig and musicologist are two words meant to be together in the same sentence, tbh.

    • @agoogleuser8945
      @agoogleuser8945 4 года назад +6

      Oh yeah! Like that one guy, what was it again? Ludwig van Amadeus Mozart? Sounds about right.

    • @mat2468xk
      @mat2468xk 4 года назад

      @@aliduamni4570 Unfortunately, yes.

    • @TheStillChillMimikyuOfficial
      @TheStillChillMimikyuOfficial 4 года назад +3

      @@agoogleuser8945 Ludwig van Beethoven.

    • @GomaaFilms
      @GomaaFilms 3 года назад +2

      ​@@TheStillChillMimikyuOfficial Ludwig Göransson

    • @A-B101
      @A-B101 3 года назад

      Ludvig Forsell great video game composer

  • @mermanhellville
    @mermanhellville 4 года назад +961

    I wonder though, are we just "trained" to feel that way about minor keys or is there something more, say, biological/innate that makes us react this way to certain frequencies, and why have we evolved thus. Beside shady pseudoscientific reasoning, that is

    • @fartkerson
      @fartkerson 4 года назад +126

      The question to every deep question is almost always "nature or nurture", isn't it?

    • @arikalamari19
      @arikalamari19 4 года назад +3

      not a remarkable question at all

    • @Leonardo-G
      @Leonardo-G 4 года назад +70

      It might have to do with the simpler frequency ratios between the notes of a major chord. It has the frequency ratios of 4:5:6, while a minor chord has the ratios of 10:12:15, making it more unstable.

    • @breakfree1967
      @breakfree1967 4 года назад +12

      Thanks finally someone that thinks like me

    • @pinkmagicali
      @pinkmagicali 4 года назад +34

      I always liked minor keys. They seem melancholy not depressing.

  • @bridgetgee1659
    @bridgetgee1659 Год назад +2

    The tower song in the newest season of Westworld is definitely giving dies irae

  • @LegoDude3258
    @LegoDude3258 2 года назад +1

    As soon as I heard the Dies Irea in the clip of the Symphonie Fantasique I instantly recognized it from the Shining.

  • @lulutheblue52
    @lulutheblue52 4 года назад +443

    All I could hear this entire time was
    “Making Christmas, making Christmas-“
    Send help pls all I can hear now is that tune

    • @techissus7449
      @techissus7449 3 года назад +11

      Same here, first thing I thought when I heard it

    • @jenniferhiemstra5228
      @jenniferhiemstra5228 3 года назад +13

      Ok, but when I watching this just now, I was like....I know it's everywhere but what's the ONE instance that I know of that I can't recall? Then "Nightmare" comes up and I about lose it and nearly threw my phone...

    • @benbehrenfeld9379
      @benbehrenfeld9379 3 года назад +1

      Immediately what I thought of

    • @ADMusic1999
      @ADMusic1999 3 года назад +10

      Yes same here. But something interesting is that if you speed up the tune, it sounds a lot like Carol of the Bells.

    • @katiekelley502
      @katiekelley502 3 года назад

      Me too!!!!!!!

  • @mrbear1302
    @mrbear1302 4 года назад +1021

    too bad those monks didn't copyright their notes in the music!....lol

    • @oRealAlieNo
      @oRealAlieNo 4 года назад +10

      Wouldn't matter. Record companies these days are roofless....

    • @moondust2365
      @moondust2365 4 года назад +17

      @@oRealAlieNo Plus the copyright would've expired by now. Plus copyright didn't exist back then...

    • @snausages43
      @snausages43 4 года назад +8

      It would have expired by now.

    • @mrbear1302
      @mrbear1302 4 года назад +5

      @@snausages43 seriously....it was a joke....duh.

    • @moondust2365
      @moondust2365 4 года назад +1

      @BVBZ WENT WILD I know it's a joke. I just do the thing every time there's a joke that seems like an ignorant person commenting...

  • @Eremon1
    @Eremon1 2 года назад +2

    I thought I was going a bit wonky in the head. I keep hearing this familiar tune in movies but could never find much info on what it was. Glad to see I'm not going completely bonkers.

  • @tonyclifton265
    @tonyclifton265 8 месяцев назад

    hadnt noticed this before. good work. liked and sub'd

  • @osayilois4841
    @osayilois4841 3 года назад +253

    I just realized that these same exact notes were played in Home Alone 1, when Kevin encounters the "creepy neighbor" for the first time.

    • @jacobcox4565
      @jacobcox4565 3 года назад +8

      When Kevin meets the old man in the church, Carol of the Bros plays, Carol of the Bells has the same notes as Dies Irae

  • @Ur2ez4me81
    @Ur2ez4me81 4 года назад +295

    That melody is definitely in a nightmare before Christmas...

    • @AustinSteingrube
      @AustinSteingrube 4 года назад +4

      Ur2ez4me81 "This is Christmas"

    • @Ur2ez4me81
      @Ur2ez4me81 4 года назад +25

      Austin Steingrube “Making Christmas...”

    • @ShadowMantraSteve
      @ShadowMantraSteve 4 года назад

      That's what came to mind as well

    • @rachaelmerwin8188
      @rachaelmerwin8188 4 года назад +1

      That's awesome, i was thinking that right before i came across this comment. It's neat because it's not just background music, it's like, the tune of the music.

    • @adelathesimpslyricvideocha217
      @adelathesimpslyricvideocha217 4 года назад

      That song where Jack has a mental breakdown.. I forgot what its called

  • @iam7bit
    @iam7bit 3 года назад

    Wow thats something I never knew! Thnx Vox!

  • @betterd9160
    @betterd9160 Год назад

    Really well done whoever did this video

  • @R.A.L.Dreams
    @R.A.L.Dreams 4 года назад +476

    The song “Making Christmas” from the Nightmare Before Christmas literally uses this throughout the entire somg

    • @blddyvel1506
      @blddyvel1506 4 года назад +2

      Elsa sis they in ur sequel like, the entire time

    • @R.A.L.Dreams
      @R.A.L.Dreams 4 года назад +1

      BloodyVelvet kiisix yeah Ik sis but my songs where a bop tho right?

    • @alexandrajames9352
      @alexandrajames9352 4 года назад +10

      That was my first thought too!!

    • @dinkledankle
      @dinkledankle 4 года назад +2

      Well it _was_ mentioned in the video, so.

    • @liaaa6396
      @liaaa6396 4 года назад +5

      Tim Burton uses it a lot in his movies to signify death lol

  • @alexgurke3462
    @alexgurke3462 3 года назад +1325

    Let's be real:
    Everyone just clicked the video just to hear the music...

  • @WhatABlankName
    @WhatABlankName 2 года назад

    thanks, this will now never leave my mind and i will notice it **everywhere.**

  • @Megs24theJokerQueen
    @Megs24theJokerQueen Год назад

    This melody also showed up in a piece of music I haven't heard
    in like 16 or 15 years!
    Only after the four Dies irae notes at the beginning there were some screeching strings

  • @satriaamiluhur622
    @satriaamiluhur622 4 года назад +1053

    This is why we have cliché, because it just works

    • @Shiny7054
      @Shiny7054 4 года назад +15

      It's not cliche so much as formula.

    • @yenee94
      @yenee94 4 года назад +8

      @@Shiny7054 cliches are just formulas that work well

    • @megavolt67
      @megavolt67 4 года назад +17

      Since "cliche" carries a negative connotation, I've always thought of the word "convention" as an alternative description of an often reused formula (a lot of people these days say "trope", but like cliche, it's also often used in a negative or dismissive way). An idea or approach that is conventional is something that just works rather than something which is felt to be overused.

    • @andknuckles9366
      @andknuckles9366 4 года назад +1

      The thing about having a engine where you can do anything is that it just works

    • @judah4436
      @judah4436 4 года назад +2

      satria amiluhur IT JUST WORKS.

  • @michaeld4676
    @michaeld4676 4 года назад +1315

    I'm not being a troll here, but was the Dies Ire also the basis of the strange tune in Frozen 2?

    • @vortexriver1071
      @vortexriver1071 4 года назад +87

      Yes

    • @angstyintellectual4960
      @angstyintellectual4960 4 года назад +71

      O. M. G. Yes. Brilliant.

    • @JandroSingz
      @JandroSingz 4 года назад +90

      I was LITERALLY just about to say this!! Went straight to the comments to see if anyone else noticed it first 😭😂❄️

    • @jilliansdustychair6499
      @jilliansdustychair6499 4 года назад +84

      Yes! Of course it was also heavily inspired by an ancient Nordic herding call known as “kulning” which is equally just as ethereal and a bit creepy

    • @michaeld4676
      @michaeld4676 3 года назад +6

      Thanks for all the responses guys. :-)

  • @behavedave
    @behavedave 2 года назад +7

    I’m surprised Tubular bells is still known as the music from the Exorcist in the US. I thought it would have been culturally significant enough to be known by its own name.

  • @DevinSeeleyDevilO
    @DevinSeeleyDevilO Год назад +5

    This melody is used a lot in The Nightmare Before Christmas, I love it

  • @Donar23
    @Donar23 4 года назад +1788

    So the Dies Irae is basically a very old meme ...

    • @Vibeguest
      @Vibeguest 4 года назад +9

      😂

    • @juliuskilonzi4421
      @juliuskilonzi4421 4 года назад +9

      😂😂😂

    • @Donar23
      @Donar23 4 года назад +17

      @HarleyHilderson Well, by Dawkin's definition of meme it clearly is one, but it was/is even used like an internet meme nowadays.

    • @mev0759
      @mev0759 4 года назад +6

      Memes often have elements of humor or satire... so I looked up and found this: Today, the word is sometimes used to describe ideas deemed to be of passing value. Dawkins himself described such short-lived ideas as memes that would have a short life in the meme pool. I'd say this is not a meme since it is not short-lived or containing humor (2nd definition under one posted by HarleyHilderson. Not arguing, just adding info I found so save those @'s

    • @mev0759
      @mev0759 4 года назад +3

      @@Donar23 All due respect, but I think you may have misread his definition. ✌

  • @ryotaarai3816
    @ryotaarai3816 4 года назад +683

    So I guess this makes "Carol of the Bells" super creepy then.
    It has a whole stanzas with nothing but this melody. 😂

    • @thespectralchannel
      @thespectralchannel 4 года назад +113

      in all fairness, I did always find it to be a fairly spooky, 'wintery cold' sounding song

    • @kitchensinkchronicles3272
      @kitchensinkchronicles3272 4 года назад +63

      and that’s why the nightmare before christmas used a combination of dies irae and carol of the bells for the song making christmas! it’s almost too perfect of a combination!

    • @cruz.c
      @cruz.c 4 года назад +9

      its a different rhythm, that might make a difference

    • @totalperfection9194
      @totalperfection9194 4 года назад +16

      Carol of the Bells is in 3/4 time signature which completely changes the “spooky” element formed from common time

    • @wayfaringspacepoet
      @wayfaringspacepoet 4 года назад +16

      Take off your western music goggles dude, the Щедрик is a pre-Christian Slavic pagan new year's chant that had nothing to do with Dies Irae until contemporary western composers created the association with it in film scores

  • @Hwyadylaw
    @Hwyadylaw 2 года назад +3

    0:37 That's not even the same melody

  • @Writer_Productions_Map
    @Writer_Productions_Map Год назад +3

    I think Papers Please also uses the Dies Irae music. On its theme song, especially in the start.

  • @vb2388
    @vb2388 4 года назад +379

    ‘Rocky Mountains’ from The Shining is probably my all time favourite score..

    • @teaver-5140
      @teaver-5140 4 года назад +5

      Vachan radiohead fans always have great taste

    • @SeeMick1
      @SeeMick1 4 года назад +10

      That’s almost directly taken from Berlioz. They even make the synths sound like the horns.

    • @jackpaice
      @jackpaice 4 года назад +5

      @@SeeMick1 I thought it basically was an adaptation of it

    • @Astronomater
      @Astronomater 4 года назад +2

      it is up there for me as well but my favorite will always be 2001's Star gate sequence. Kubrick always had fantastic music!

    • @harrylane4
      @harrylane4 4 года назад +1

      Not even the best Kubrick score my dude, clockwork orange takes that prize

  • @antoineveillerette8129
    @antoineveillerette8129 4 года назад +125

    Mozart requiem isn't a symphony.... Its a requiem (funeral mass)

  • @flamingmcshizzle6709
    @flamingmcshizzle6709 2 года назад +2

    As soon as you mentioned 'Dies Irae' my mind went to the part in 'The Whole Being Dead Thing' (from Beetlejuice: The Musical) where the ensemble started to chant that. It goes something like this:
    I have mastered the art (Dies Irae)
    Of tearing convention apart (Dies Irae)
    It's basically near the end of the song. It definitely makes sense-

  • @comradevladimir6664
    @comradevladimir6664 2 года назад

    the 4 notes just fits so well with those scenes

  • @JusticeAnimeGeek
    @JusticeAnimeGeek 4 года назад +332

    All I can think of is "Making Christmas" from The Nightmare Before Christmas... Hmm lol

    • @gorillaguerillaDK
      @gorillaguerillaDK 4 года назад +2

      Jane Justice Doe
      I love that movie!

    • @AwesomePurpleStar
      @AwesomePurpleStar 4 года назад +12

      I thought the same!!

    • @ericweatherby9628
      @ericweatherby9628 4 года назад +18

      I was thinking the same thing: the "Maaa - kiing - Christ - maas" phrase is sung to those four notes.

    • @nathandrake5544
      @nathandrake5544 4 года назад

      Nice catch! I never noticed that

    • @shmert
      @shmert 4 года назад +7

      Not just that, but Jack's Lament is also a variation of this theme, with different timing.

  • @erin79
    @erin79 4 года назад +768

    I love Moe Zart, and Franz Linst, and Giuseppay Verday.

    • @linablanco6853
      @linablanco6853 4 года назад +17

      BaronVonComment underrated comment

    • @thomasraahauge5231
      @thomasraahauge5231 4 года назад +30

      I love Buhh Liuhhz and Jo-huuun Sebastian I'll-be-Bachrr

    • @andrepapillon
      @andrepapillon 4 года назад +11

      Louis-Hector Berlioz ? To my knowledge he never used Louis.

    • @yalltrippin1112
      @yalltrippin1112 4 года назад +6

      Thank you for using the proper pronunciation

    • @nivad75
      @nivad75 4 года назад +7

      what, did they hire some kid from the local high school to narrate this?

  • @CarterHand
    @CarterHand Год назад

    This is making christmas, which makes sense. Good work.

  • @potshead
    @potshead 3 года назад

    When ever I hear that melody it always reminds me of the shining melody

  • @mayle2010
    @mayle2010 4 года назад +387

    People complain about sampling now, but it's been happening for literal centuries

    • @victorhaaning
      @victorhaaning 4 года назад +4

      Who complains about sampling?

    • @cynthiavasquez4010
      @cynthiavasquez4010 4 года назад +3

      Havnt seen anyone complain about sampling

    • @monikyut
      @monikyut 4 года назад +4

      @@victorhaaning there's a lot on twitter (overly devoted fans of some artists)

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket 4 года назад +13

      There have been literal lawsuits over songs sounding slightly similar to other ones lately. And I don't mean from the RIAA or record companies; this is artists suing each other. And _winning._ Katy Perry recently lost a suit to some rando on Soundcloud that she couldn't possibly have heard of. It's nuts.

    • @cam-gv2gf
      @cam-gv2gf 4 года назад

      @@stevethepocketlitigation by multimillionaire companies does not equal social and common-folk complaints about sampling.

  • @mallee-ann4061
    @mallee-ann4061 3 года назад +162

    if you’ve seen Frozen 2, you’ll also notice that this piece of music is heavy in the storyline. When I really listened to the siren’s song, I was blown away 😳😳 a really nice choice for that one

    • @bilingualkaraoke8665
      @bilingualkaraoke8665 2 года назад +9

      I hadn't realized it until the composer explicitly pointed it out in an interview, becausey rhythmically it is so much defamiliarized.

    • @lilelly16
      @lilelly16 Год назад

      Wow good one! It's rrue, it's the siren's song 😮

  • @chinchilla641
    @chinchilla641 2 года назад +1

    Making Christmas is the first one that comes to mind when I think of the dies irae after Mozart and Verdi ofc.

  • @magorovthegreat6801
    @magorovthegreat6801 2 года назад +1

    Ever since Ive heard about this melody it it reminded me of something and I finally figured out what. Its used in Heroes of Might and Magic 5 main theme, now I finally now why the theme is so epic

  • @mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable
    @mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable 4 года назад +266

    Best Dies Irae:
    MAKING CHRISTMAS
    MAKING CHRISTMAS
    FALLA LA! :)

    • @aidenflame1576
      @aidenflame1576 4 года назад +2

      1312 Revolutionary YEEEEEEEES XD

    • @ESSBrew
      @ESSBrew 4 года назад +4

      0:30 and sing this in head over and over

    • @felixc543
      @felixc543 4 года назад +2

      That was exactly what I thought when I heard it

    • @vinstinct
      @vinstinct 4 года назад +2

      That's what I was hearing the whole time.

    • @_marshP
      @_marshP 4 года назад

      It's our's this time

  • @gicomaro9853
    @gicomaro9853 4 года назад +138

    Vox could do "why doors open" but still make it very interesting

  • @kylefrew9645
    @kylefrew9645 2 года назад +2

    I remember learning about this in band class a couple years ago. I was wondering what it’s called

  • @jarfo9663
    @jarfo9663 4 года назад +941

    The first notes on the frozen II trailer be like

  • @Fogmeister
    @Fogmeister 4 года назад +211

    2:46 piano music...
    I fully expected...
    “First I was afraid, I was petrified, ...”
    🤣

    • @ladygiddy
      @ladygiddy 4 года назад +2

      Hahaha🤣🤣

    • @centiments11
      @centiments11 4 года назад +8

      Kept thinking i could never leave without you by my side

    • @olezka_dostoevsky
      @olezka_dostoevsky 4 года назад +9

      Eilish
      But then I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong
      And I grew strong
      And I learned how to get along

    • @nokaittothepoet4218
      @nokaittothepoet4218 3 года назад +1

      I can't stahp laughing

    • @mazeppa1231
      @mazeppa1231 3 года назад +1

      I'm a Liszt fan, and I found this funny. xD

  • @ryanmemes2100
    @ryanmemes2100 Год назад +21

    Ok so basically when i watched this video i was like, “huh, ok” and right after that i had to go to my brother’s winter concert and in one of the songs IT LITERALLY PLAYED THE DIES IRAE THEME LOL. either i noticed it because i just found out about it or christmas music be dark 💀

  • @dawsond4123
    @dawsond4123 Год назад +2

    I don’t think I’ve seen anybody notice it, but these notes are in the themes and leitmotifs of Dead by Daylight

  • @brutalnecrodude6667
    @brutalnecrodude6667 3 года назад +146

    When I hear those notes all I can think of “Making Christmas” from The Nightmare Before Christmas

    • @natedobson8957
      @natedobson8957 3 года назад +8

      I love how half of the examples they put at the front of the film are Danny Elfman compositions.

    • @hollow9552
      @hollow9552 2 года назад +1

      Same! 😂