Looks good. I'm also doing this conversion on a 2002. Decided to upgrade to the hp24 transmission at the same time so I swapped the bell housing while the trans was out. Much easier job when it's flipped vertical. I replaced the pump seals and gasket while I was there. Need to build the exhaust and order hptuners but I'm almost done. I didn't film a bit of it though so I'm glad you're doing this.
I imagine that made that quite a bit easier. It was a tad cumbersome doing it in the truck. But doable. You’ll have to let me know how you like yours. Thanks for the comment, like hearing from other owners of these.
@@LostCauseRanch absolutely great! I am waiting for 4.5" lift from Rte Fab and some diffs with 443 gears from GBR with a Detroit in rear and tru trac front then 35"s.. Have all aluminum allisport radiator and reservoir haven't been able to install yet. Many trips to Tuttle Creek OHV and it does very well on the rocks.
We are currently doing a 5.3 ls swap with Holley management system , using the factory Manuel transmission on a 1997 Land Rover discovery ! Your videos look great !
That’s awesome. We have one of the Defenders that will be getting the sniper. Along with an 02 Kalahari Disco that will be converted to manual and sniper. That D1 will be a cool setup.
Haha. I’ve been a good guinea pig most of my life. We have a marks4wd tcase adapter to put a 5.3 with the 4L80 gm trans in my brothers RRC. So it will be kind of nice to have somewhat of a comparison to the 2 schools of thought at the swap. Thanks for checking in as always!
Should be a good one as well. That one threw a rod on the 3.9. We also have a tcase adapter from synchro gearboxes for our ls3/6l80e Defender. So we are running the gauntlet on LS adapters for these things.
Love the vid- so far I just pulled the 4.0 out of my 2001 Disco. It took all day but i got it out. And now i have the last two OBD sensors to unplug the rear ones. The harness will be completely out. They are very hard to reach. Ready for the next step.
I don't agree the 4.6 was over stretched too much it was a far better engine as a 3.5 l they rarely had loose sleeves. When they went 3.9 / 4.0 l to try to satisfy the American market, they started to get loose sometimes but if rebuilt with top hat sleeves they are a bloody good engine as far as I'm concerned.
Really appreciate the videos as im starting this swap and your explanations and details really ground the whole thing. Actual question: What bolts did you use to mate the LS to the new bellhousing? Factory length seems short with that spacer in place.
Get a chance to film adjusting the motor mounts? I'm a bit stuck there. I've been following along this whole way. Really appreciate the video series you've put out.
Hi guys, just wondering I am planning to do an LS swap on a year 1980 Range Rover and wondering if I can do that same conversion to keep the original transmission but swap out the engine to a 5.3 LS do do you think that would work?
You could do that, but personally if I were to do an older Range Rover like that I would probably go with a 4L80e transmission from gm and adapt the lt230 Land Rover transfer case to that.
Did you have any issues with clearance on the passenger side rear valve cover? The rear of the PS valve cover is butted right up to the firewall on mine. Or any trouble lining up the DS motor mount to frame? I’m at that step and it seem like it’s going to take some tweaking to make it fit correctly.
What is the conversion kit? I can't find one anywhere? Where did you get this kit. I have an lm7 I'm trying to put on the original trans but no one sells conversion kits. The Ace engineering one is out of stock all the time.
Even after watching this video, I made the same mistake! The manual says "The square washer stays on the outside of the back of the power steering bracket." So yeah!
I LOVE that you guys are recording this step by step. It's in my near future for my '03 as well. Even though I have a top-hat-sleeved brand new 4.6- it's still a POS motor. I'll sell it to some purist and get a reliable 5.3LS.
We’ve had decent luck with the 4.6s over the years but have never personally deemed them worth investing a ton of money into a correctly fixed one. They just are what they are, not enough power if you are investing a ton of money into them. I’ve also never been a purist of anything, if something can be improved on I’m all for it. But definitely a Land Rover fan through and through. I think you’ll enjoy the process of you go through with the swap on yours. Thanks for the comments!
The tire size on this one dictates that a gear change would help. We are doing an Ls3/6L80 in a Defender as well and don’t plan on changing the ratio on that with the extra gears in the transmission.
We currently are not taking any outside work on, might be something we do again in the future but it would be at least a year or better before that happens. We just wouldn’t be able to get it completed in a timely manner with the current project load we have.
@@louisziegler3690 A 2004 Range Rover is going to be quite different than this setup. I’m not aware of a kit available for the L322 as of now. So that is going to be more of a one off custom job on the mounts and integration.
2010 lr4 blew up on my birthday. Complete new engine needed. Can't afford it and owe on it. I am a disabled veteran and Patriot Warranty scammed me, acting as a veteran friendly insurer/Warranty provider. Land Rover swapped a blown intake manifold for $2.5k and then realized the engine was blown. Car ain't even worth 2k in parts. Can you give me guidance on more budget friendly direct engine swap? 2010 Land Rover LR4 5.0 HSE. Thanks! (I DC about perfect integration I just need a car that drives--BTW I am purely looking for advice not a handout!)
Did they give you any more info on what is actual wrong with the engine besides just being blown? Usually it is most cost effective to do a used replacement 5.0 engine vs. custom installing something else in it. Especially if you have to pay for it to be done. I would venture to guess you would be $15k+ to have an LS or something else installed in an LR4. And it wouldn’t in my opinion work as well as the 5.0 does. We never had a ton of complete catastrophic failures in the V8s. Usually head gaskets if it was overheated or valves if the chains broke. Both of which would be much more economical to repair than a custom swap.
The 4.0/4.6 started off as a GM engine anyways. To correctly fix a late production 4.6 is pretty cost prohibitive. But with that said we still own probably 12-14 other ones with the Rover V8 still in them, so it’s not like I’m not a fan of them.
These 3.5/3.9/4.0/4.6 actually originate from the old Buick 215 from GM. The problem on the let ones namely the 03/04 4.6 in the Discoveries is that they pushed the limits of the block size wise with displacement and we’re using old worn tooling and the tolerances weren’t as tight anymore. They just ran too long on an old design engine. Which is understandable from a bean counter perspective. But I just like to tease and give them a rough time, everything has some sort or weakness one way or another and I’m sure you obviously now that I like these things haha.
Actually it was a Buick engine- however you're correct- BMW did everything to it that turned it into a total unreliable POS during their short ownership tenure. Should be a surprise- BMW has never made a reliable engine.
Did you have any issues with clearance on the passenger side rear valve cover? The rear of the PS valve cover is butted right up to the firewall on mine. Or any trouble lining up the DS motor mount to frame? I’m at that step and it seem like it’s going to take some tweaking to make it fit correctly.
It is tight on the passenger valve cover vs. firewall. But there is clearance. It was some good playing around to get the mounts bolted in. We loosened the transmission mounts and they are slid forward all the way on the slots. Then we got the engine mounts located in the forward/backward position. After that we ended up tightening the bolts that go through the rubber down to squeeze the rubber and that got us pretty close to the correct width. Bolted in the passenger side loosely then a slight push with a pry bar let us bolt the drivers mount in. Let me know if that makes sense.
@@LostCauseRanch Ok great, I’ll try loosening the transmission mounts and shifting it around a little bit. That all made perfect sense, I started to think my frame was bent or something. Glad to know it took some finessing to get it bolted up. Great vids by the way, I’m right behind you starting my wiring this week.
Looks good. I'm also doing this conversion on a 2002. Decided to upgrade to the hp24 transmission at the same time so I swapped the bell housing while the trans was out. Much easier job when it's flipped vertical. I replaced the pump seals and gasket while I was there. Need to build the exhaust and order hptuners but I'm almost done. I didn't film a bit of it though so I'm glad you're doing this.
I imagine that made that quite a bit easier. It was a tad cumbersome doing it in the truck. But doable. You’ll have to let me know how you like yours. Thanks for the comment, like hearing from other owners of these.
Greetings from Omaha, NE! I have over 15,000 miles on my 03 Disco ACE LS swap!
Awesome. How has it been for you?
@@LostCauseRanch absolutely great! I am waiting for 4.5" lift from Rte Fab and some diffs with 443 gears from GBR with a Detroit in rear and tru trac front then 35"s..
Have all aluminum allisport radiator and reservoir haven't been able to install yet. Many trips to Tuttle Creek OHV and it does very well on the rocks.
We are currently doing a 5.3 ls swap with Holley management system , using the factory Manuel transmission on a 1997 Land Rover discovery ! Your videos look great !
That’s awesome. We have one of the Defenders that will be getting the sniper. Along with an 02 Kalahari Disco that will be converted to manual and sniper. That D1 will be a cool setup.
Please post some videos. I'm thinking of swapping my D1 as well.
Loving this swap you are doing
We are excited as well. Thanks!
Very cool to see this. Forking out a couple grand for that kit and not knowing if it's any good is risky. Nice of you to be our guinea pig ;)
Haha. I’ve been a good guinea pig most of my life. We have a marks4wd tcase adapter to put a 5.3 with the 4L80 gm trans in my brothers RRC. So it will be kind of nice to have somewhat of a comparison to the 2 schools of thought at the swap. Thanks for checking in as always!
@@LostCauseRanch Nice. That RRC swap should be fun.
Should be a good one as well. That one threw a rod on the 3.9. We also have a tcase adapter from synchro gearboxes for our ls3/6l80e Defender. So we are running the gauntlet on LS adapters for these things.
@@LostCauseRanch how did that marks 4wd adapter turn out? Any luck?
Love the vid- so far I just pulled the 4.0 out of my 2001 Disco. It took all day but i got it out. And now i have the last two OBD sensors to unplug the rear ones. The harness will be completely out. They are very hard to reach. Ready for the next step.
You are moving right along!
Thanks for documenting this. Lookin good
Appreciate you watching. It’s kind of fun documenting neat projects like this.
New subscriber here...Love the content! This Disco 2 LS swap is sweet!
Appreciate that! We’re pretty excited to have this thing going too, should be a fun one.
You guys Rock! Thanks for posting. So much help!
Glad we can help!
It's looking good 👍.
So glad most of ours in the UK are Diesel ,TD5 was a far better engine.
I wish we would have gotten more diesel versions over here.
I don't agree the 4.6 was over stretched too much it was a far better engine as a 3.5 l they rarely had loose sleeves. When they went 3.9 / 4.0 l to try to satisfy the American market, they started to get loose sometimes but if rebuilt with top hat sleeves they are a bloody good engine as far as I'm concerned.
Really appreciate the videos as im starting this swap and your explanations and details really ground the whole thing.
Actual question: What bolts did you use to mate the LS to the new bellhousing? Factory length seems short with that spacer in place.
Get a chance to film adjusting the motor mounts? I'm a bit stuck there. I've been following along this whole way. Really appreciate the video series you've put out.
I did the conversion as well. What did you end up doing with the rover throttle position sensor?
Hi love your channel I am looking at buying a 2004 Land Rover Discovery wanted to know what your total cost was on that engine swap
Are you doing it yourself or planning on a shop doing it?
I'm sorry, i just wanna ask did you use the landrover transmission for the LS swap?
Yes, the Land Rover transmission stayed in there.
Hi guys, just wondering I am planning to do an LS swap on a year 1980 Range Rover and wondering if I can do that same conversion to keep the original transmission but swap out the engine to a 5.3 LS do do you think that would work?
You could do that, but personally if I were to do an older Range Rover like that I would probably go with a 4L80e transmission from gm and adapt the lt230 Land Rover transfer case to that.
Did you have any issues with clearance on the passenger side rear valve cover? The rear of the PS valve cover is butted right up to the firewall on mine. Or any trouble lining up the DS motor mount to frame? I’m at that step and it seem like it’s going to take some tweaking to make it fit correctly.
What is the conversion kit? I can't find one anywhere? Where did you get this kit.
I have an lm7 I'm trying to put on the original trans but no one sells conversion kits. The Ace engineering one is out of stock all the time.
Even after watching this video, I made the same mistake! The manual says "The square washer stays on the
outside of the back of the power steering bracket." So yeah!
I LOVE that you guys are recording this step by step. It's in my near future for my '03 as well. Even though I have a top-hat-sleeved brand new 4.6- it's still a POS motor. I'll sell it to some purist and get a reliable 5.3LS.
We’ve had decent luck with the 4.6s over the years but have never personally deemed them worth investing a ton of money into a correctly fixed one. They just are what they are, not enough power if you are investing a ton of money into them. I’ve also never been a purist of anything, if something can be improved on I’m all for it. But definitely a Land Rover fan through and through. I think you’ll enjoy the process of you go through with the swap on yours. Thanks for the comments!
Rover engines are not a pos
Your top hat block will last longer than that American rig, I’ll put money in it
Great I always been a fan of the LS3 own two L322 and a gmc Sierra with the 6.2 LS3 I want to swap one of my L322 to LS can u guys do it?
Amigo exelente contenido ,podrías indicar cómo conseguir el kit de adaptación? Gracias
We is your shop located? I love to pay someone to do a LS swap in to my discovery
We are in Iowa.
do you think you will have to update the diff ratio. I am doing a ls2 6l80 into a td5 defender
The tire size on this one dictates that a gear change would help. We are doing an Ls3/6L80 in a Defender as well and don’t plan on changing the ratio on that with the extra gears in the transmission.
But we also are not going with as tall of tire on the Defender.
Do you guys do this in general?
We currently are not taking any outside work on, might be something we do again in the future but it would be at least a year or better before that happens. We just wouldn’t be able to get it completed in a timely manner with the current project load we have.
would the kit work for a 2012 lr4
Hey L.C.R. can i do this swap for my seized LR4 2012 engine?
Afternoon
Will those engine mounts work with range Rover and where can I find those mounts?
What year Range Rover?
@@LostCauseRanch 2004
Can I use the factory radiator from the range Rover?
Do you have a video for what you did for the wiring? Or the fuel?
@@louisziegler3690 A 2004 Range Rover is going to be quite different than this setup. I’m not aware of a kit available for the L322 as of now. So that is going to be more of a one off custom job on the mounts and integration.
I'm guessing it's for the gm ecu.
That was also my initial guess when we opened the kit up.
Hey guys - I'm looking for this kit. do you know anyone that is still make this or has the diagrams to create?
Can you do a LS or LT Swap on a 2013 LR4?
It is possible to be done, but I think you would loose a lot of the features and tech that make the LR4 pretty neat.
2010 lr4 blew up on my birthday. Complete new engine needed. Can't afford it and owe on it. I am a disabled veteran and Patriot Warranty scammed me, acting as a veteran friendly insurer/Warranty provider. Land Rover swapped a blown intake manifold for $2.5k and then realized the engine was blown. Car ain't even worth 2k in parts. Can you give me guidance on more budget friendly direct engine swap? 2010 Land Rover LR4 5.0 HSE. Thanks!
(I DC about perfect integration I just need a car that drives--BTW I am purely looking for advice not a handout!)
Did they give you any more info on what is actual wrong with the engine besides just being blown? Usually it is most cost effective to do a used replacement 5.0 engine vs. custom installing something else in it. Especially if you have to pay for it to be done. I would venture to guess you would be $15k+ to have an LS or something else installed in an LR4. And it wouldn’t in my opinion work as well as the 5.0 does. We never had a ton of complete catastrophic failures in the V8s. Usually head gaskets if it was overheated or valves if the chains broke. Both of which would be much more economical to repair than a custom swap.
@@LostCauseRanch timing chain tensioner broke and blew the rear intake manifold.
I'm buying a disco 2 for $500 next week it's sitting in a mechanic shop and I'm wanting to do this swap for it
That is a nice little score. Congrats!
I would have used a Buick 231 CID 3800 Supercharged Series II would have fitted perfect.
has anyone done that swap ?
Sacrilege!!!!
It’s no longer a Land Rover without the 4.0/4.6
👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
The 4.0/4.6 started off as a GM engine anyways. To correctly fix a late production 4.6 is pretty cost prohibitive. But with that said we still own probably 12-14 other ones with the Rover V8 still in them, so it’s not like I’m not a fan of them.
@@LostCauseRanch Stateside, how much are you paying for a correctly rebuild 4.6?
Thank you from Australia 🇦🇺
At least now it will move on it's own power.
You can’t really blame Land Rover for the original engine as it was a BMW designed engine.
These 3.5/3.9/4.0/4.6 actually originate from the old Buick 215 from GM. The problem on the let ones namely the 03/04 4.6 in the Discoveries is that they pushed the limits of the block size wise with displacement and we’re using old worn tooling and the tolerances weren’t as tight anymore. They just ran too long on an old design engine. Which is understandable from a bean counter perspective. But I just like to tease and give them a rough time, everything has some sort or weakness one way or another and I’m sure you obviously now that I like these things haha.
Actually it was a Buick engine- however you're correct- BMW did everything to it that turned it into a total unreliable POS during their short ownership tenure. Should be a surprise- BMW has never made a reliable engine.
Hey. We’ve made a living off repairing BMW’s. So it was alright for us they can’t get it right lately.
No it wasn't lol see lost cause ranch's reply. He is completely correct
Did you have any issues with clearance on the passenger side rear valve cover? The rear of the PS valve cover is butted right up to the firewall on mine. Or any trouble lining up the DS motor mount to frame? I’m at that step and it seem like it’s going to take some tweaking to make it fit correctly.
It is tight on the passenger valve cover vs. firewall. But there is clearance. It was some good playing around to get the mounts bolted in. We loosened the transmission mounts and they are slid forward all the way on the slots. Then we got the engine mounts located in the forward/backward position. After that we ended up tightening the bolts that go through the rubber down to squeeze the rubber and that got us pretty close to the correct width. Bolted in the passenger side loosely then a slight push with a pry bar let us bolt the drivers mount in. Let me know if that makes sense.
@@LostCauseRanch Ok great, I’ll try loosening the transmission mounts and shifting it around a little bit. That all made perfect sense, I started to think my frame was bent or something. Glad to know it took some finessing to get it bolted up. Great vids by the way, I’m right behind you starting my wiring this week.