Absolutely amazing video, also Tom seems like a really down to earth guy, and very knowledgeable, /DRIVE should totally to a full length video, like *Inside NRE horsepower factory*, would love to see an update on their AWD mid engine hyepcar.
I have been out of the engine building game for about 26 years, and man things have changed! Great job with this video. I learned a hell of a lot in 19 minutes!
I am a woodworker. I make hand cut dovetails and box joints. My joints require clearances of between 3 to 4 thousandths. So watching your video I am appreciating the multitude of factors you must take into account, and the precision that you must achieve to produce your engines. My hat is off to you, You are a master, and your video is inspirational.
It’s pretty hard to beat an LS engine. I drove my SS Camaro for 130K miles auto crossed it, open road raced it. All out mile races. Never skipped a beat. I never even changed the spark plugs!!! Car got 24mpg in 6th gear !!! Great engine the LS1.
A man with clear passion for his work and an understanding of it all. Everyone talks about legendary tuners, Techart, RWB, AC Schnitzer, Brabus, Carlsson, Hennessey. This man, and the whole of NRE, should be on that list of tuners we all know and love.
This guy is obviously good at building LS motors, but he's even better on office chairs. He's built like 70 or 80 degrees of slouch into that thing. Mean. His face is so far away I don't even know what he looks like. What a boss.
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I am perfectly happy with the LSA in my CTS-V coupe. Only has a couple of bolt on mods but has all sorts of power. Love hearing that blower wind up too.
"The motor is really about a combination of parts". As a seasoned tuner there could not be more of a true statement. My job is to ensure the combination plays nice together and is optimized to run as effectively as possible. The most important part of making power and hitting your goals is to create the correct combination, not just throw the "hottest" part at it and hope for the best.
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Don't know you, but I know the difference between bullshit and a man that knows what he's talking about. My hotrodding days are over, I'm 73, but wish I had another go around to play with the LS. Enjoyed your presentation.
I had a 99 Camaro Z28 with the LS-1 but one day I let my brother borrow my car then I had a 1999 Paperweight. He was showing out for a girl and slammed into a light pole.
You would never lend out a MC to a complete novice but a cyclist certainly would have a better appreciation than the average car driver. Many of the most famous MX'rs from the 80's who raced the next gen Jap banshee's 125/250's (83'+) Began their careers in competitive BMX
10/2024: Good Day. I bought my 2004 Z06 Commemorative Corvette New. It has an LS6 and today 131,000 miles on it. It's been up to 171 MPH (I ran out of highway then) still runs like new, gets in the mid 20 MPG and doesn't leak a drop. Still on the factory original clutch. I've driven it, but not hard very often. I'm an old MOPAR guy for the most part. A few 440 magnums and some others. This is the best engine that I have ever owned. Thank You for Posting This. Excellent. A great find and I have subscribed. Excellent.
Amazing video, the way this guy sits there so casually spitting out tech data off the top of his head like that is cool. I would really enjoy sitting and listening to him for days
Ive been a tech for 8 years and this is so interesting to me. I would love to get the chance to build performance engines. Anything performance I build now is out of my pocket which is hard when I have so many hobbies.
Thanks Tom Nelson for giving us an deep justed professional opinion on the GM LS mill! You are an awesome engine technician! I just love your videos they are very enjoyable and informative. Your specialty builds are like artwork!
Thanks for the education. I'm talking bullet points, I'm in over my head trying to soak it all in. I'm sure I have a much better grasp of a 6.0 build for a mild jeep than were my head was before learning today.... Thanks Mr Nelson
The LS, 2JZ-GTE, RB26, and 1.3 liter twin turbo 13B rotary engines are all great and legendary engines that are great to work with. They all love making big and decent amount of power. Great presentation Nelson!
@@verttisyrjala2897 well I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings but a rotary engine is certainly not a reliable engine. Just go ask R X 8 owners how they are going.
Great content on the LS. "Spend the money on the foundation and by the right block" The details matter and are in the blue print. I'll be building one soon and put it on video.
Oldskool funk are you still going to do an LS? I remember watching a few of your videos a few years ago, I think the one about leaky head gaskets. On second thought it might be hard to do an ls with smog laws depending on your state.
I agree with all the above, and it makes a great sound. But the 2.0 version with 129 hp and 170 nm of torque is a bit gutless for a 1500 kg car ! (but plenty of power on the wet without any traction control ! :)
+Ariel Zelada John Hennessey is a grade A douche. I didn't believe people and then I actually read up on him, and holy shit. I still can't believe what I read over a year ago. don't buy anything from him. just a warning bud.
Love my 98 six speed Corvette. Got a good deal on it in 2017 and it already had a couple of external mods to boost up the HP a bit. The performance of that LS motor for what I paid for the car is so worth it...
3:57 That's Harry Bridges Ave. The recent work has made the part by the 110 freeway look really nice but as it turns into Alameda another half mile ahead of where they're shooting, it's the old Wilmington we all know and "love." (Anaheim St near Alameda develops pot holes with their own zip codes, in fact I just blew out a tire over there last month)
Dang, I learn more from this guy than from any other boutique builder out there! I'm already worried that I screwed up with a standard deck 427 custom block.
Dude makes some good points... I always here folks talk about building a coyote motor and my general response is "i didn't know you were rich?!". As much as folks talk shit about LS swaps they happen for a reason and most often that reason is performance to dollar. LS is hard to beat.
true. You swap an LS3 into any honda/Miata/s13, with FBO+Tune, and it immediately becomes a 10 second car. These engines are no joke and the amount of power these things can handle, on stock bottom end, is ridiculous(700whp, which is near 900hp at the crank, is considered "Safe" for Forced Induction). I have a 5th gen SS and imagine the amount of power it could have had if the weight was similar to the 4th's... We break the suspension/diff's a lot more often than blowing the motor.... A mid camshaft swap is already pushing the Camaro into mid 11's on street tires(at 4k+ lbs with driver+gas)... There's plenty of Camaro's running 10's on a big GPI camshaft. Corvette's, which sit at 3400lbs with driver+gas, is a pretty massive advantage with an engine like this.
Mr. Nelson creates some of the best engine setups. The man is a complete master of the V8 engine. How awesome you got him to sit down and drop some free golden knowledge on us. This is one guy worth listening too. Thanks for this video. PS The man knows his Turbo setups just as well. Even creating his own unique turbo setups made up of varieties of different materials.
This is one smart cookie and he speaks from experience. Even I can tell he knows what he's talking about. If I wanted to get an engine done he would be the one I would go to first.
Nelson he's been around and he's pretty good. I had one of his engines and it was pretty stout. My big block big procharger stuff I have Scott "PAR" do. Nelson is a good boosted sbc guys.
The part that discusses long stroke cranks is soooooo important. Tall deck block and keep that puppy where it's supposed to be! LS7 is extended the sleeves past the block. All of this is mentioned in his video! Smart man. Seriously, Nelson is no joke.
+Knights2theEnd There is no particular way of doing it. Some people don't even bother "breaking in" engines and just go all out from the start and haven't suffered any issues. So there is no evidence for it, although I would feel a lot more comfortable taking it easy on a new engine for a few hundred miles.
I love how producers can make you feel power by what the interviewer is describing plus the background music 🔥🔥🔥 just the first 6-7 minutes just snatched you... most don’t understand.. 😲 Great job
wow, 30 years building, racing and a shop owner, I wish WISH every guy I ever had walk in to the shop asking for a hotrod watches this.. Very elegant explanations... Trying to educate about "combinations" is like digging holes in sand to most guys..
+spark972 Yeah, exactly what I thought! You will sometimes find V8's in junkyards where I live - they are almost always 1UZ-FE's from old Toyota's and Lexus's - which are good engines but hard to get big power out of, or possibly a shitty LT small block from a Holden Commodore.
Yep, and here they get ripped apart by the guys that work at the yard before we get to even see them. Also any solid transmissions, gone before they are in sight. 😞
That sucks for you guys. There are hordes of LS engines in the junkyard thanks to all the pickups and SUVs from Chevy, GMC and Cadillac. Almost all the truck blocks are iron. 4.8L and 5.3L are a dime a dozen. I find them all the time with all the accessories, harness, ECU, and trans for about $1200 with 100k miles. Usually can get another 100k before the trans gives out, but the motor keeps going.
Thanks for the video. Like many guys, I have always dreamed of fabricating machines and building engines. Unfortunately, my military career did not afford the luxury of staying in one place long enough to get established. Watching your video gave me a lot of food for thought, and concepts to research as I tinker through my retirement. I think it would be an amazing experience to work under, and be mentored by you.
First video in a while where they didn't tell me to go to /Drive+ ....this makes me wonder why Toyota doesnt sell 2JZ crate motors. The prices on 2JZ GTE's is getting ridiculous as the engine has aged. If they started remanufacturing them they could make a profit and it would lower the price. I can't imagine there isn't a market for that.
+Pickle312 Because realistically to get a 2jz to do what LS's do would drive the cost of a crate motor to something ridiculous. Would be willing to pay 22k for a long block? A long block that's destined to grenade to begin with at that? 2jz's are awesomely capable but their issues start with their displacement and people's unrealistic expectations of what the motor is capable of.
I get it! I am hesitant to replace the 50+ year old block in my Firebird. A friend once told me, "Its your car, do what ever the F&$% you want!" Don't ever build a car (or anything for that matter) to impress someone, you will always be chasing someone else's dream....
+saratov99 Since when? I love both motors and i own cars with both motors. The 2JZ really only runs into problems once its starts pushing like 600 wheel ftlbs of torque and there are plenty of guys running with 800whp on stock internals with no issues. both are literally Kings and Queens of motors....the 2jz being the queen of course.
all you guys are looking at my original post wrong. i never said the 2J was better, i was just saying they should do more videos like this one about other motors.
As a student of engine blueprinting and extracting horsepower from any engine these is a great overview, good reminders and tips. Would love to work on an LS engine!
+1975 First On Race Day Capri 3.0 Ghia I'm a die hard chevy guy(Or any brand Big Block :P) but the LS craze got to me, I would rather put an old school SBC or BBC in any ride over a LS at this point, can't beat the sound either. I love the LS though, they're amazing engines and superior to the SBC,... but... BIG BLOCK!
+1975 First On Race Day Capri 3.0 Ghia Don't hate the engine, hate fanboys.... I can't stand them either as they tend to lack technical knowledge just read brochure and boom they are experts.
LS is an amazing swap because you can fit them in almost anything. Like the Miata. It's one of those cars that you have to be up close to understand the actual size. It's crazy you can fir a 6.2l in that thing. You can barely fit a 5.0l Coyote.(Not knocking the Coyote. It's still one of my favorites)
Yes, but this is one case where it might be more swappable than the LS, which I believe is the reason that Gregory brought it up. There's a kit out there specifically designed to fit a Ford V8 in a Miata called Monster Miata. Perhaps things have changed with all of the LS mania in the last few years, but I don't think there's anything out there for the LS. You're on your own making mounting brackets and such. What's funny about it is that something like this could have happened: Ford and Mazda cooperated on several models from the 60s up until recently.
The LS engines sound SO good. Almost every V8 sounds so good. Of all the engine configurations, the American style pushrod V8 engines have the most vicious sound at low RPM's, when idling, and when cruising around. They aren't the most high tech, but the sound is so satisfying.
@@RBZ06LT6 well i don't disagree but it was a thing for a while. then again, the LSx wasn't yet on the scene. Believe there was an outfit doing the swaps... called it the Monster Miata.
I may be a JDM main but that doesn't change the fact that I love all cars from any country, and honestly more people need to watch this video, I already liked the ls but this video was an eye opener. Props 💯
+Tyler Smith The youtube comment system is so dumb that people are having conversations and I have no idea what they are talking about because all I can see is Supra1722 statement and he is responding to someone who I can not see........ Yes these are all solid engines
+Ronald Colman from the movie "Super Troopers". Also I'm not 100% certain the song I listed is correct on second thought. It could be also be " Mr. Undercover" by Axel Wolph but even this song isn't identical. :(
I bent the valves on my '94 Volvo 960 this month (again). I would love to put a LS in there, what a smile it puts on my face thinking about it! My buddy wants me to drop a forklift motor in it instead. The timing belt is so thin that year that I let it go too long, next year has better belt.
I could listen to this guy talk all day. It's refreshing to hear a real pro after wading through all the oceans of content crapped out by snake oil peddlers, know-nothings, and weekend warriors like me.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. A lot of good info, some people would charge for this depth of knowledge!! Building the LS in my '13 Silverado now, and its the first endeavor on this platform; I am considering building one for my first gen Firebird after. Lastly, I can contest in my limited experience on the LS block, Tuning will make a HUGE difference. After valve train work, my motor struggled to start. A couple weeks of tuning (PC Tuners), and I can lay rubber (just a bit) in second!!!
This guy is good! I want to put the LS7 in my new Jeep Rubicon sooo bad. This is like an addict watching people shoot up and he cannot partake! Damnit!
Why would you,... OMG, LS in a Rubicon? Do you want to make it slower? Look at the FCA crate motors, there's even enough room in the Rubicon for the V10.
GMdrivingMOPARguy the engines cost about the same where i live, but the ls needs a more electronics where are a sbc doesnt so that causes a price difference. however big blocks here are double the price of an ls, if you can find me a "running" big block for 350$ let me know haha
If your aren't familiar with what a brilliant man sounds like when he's found his true path in life, watch this. It's refreshing to hear somebody who is not only profoundly passionate about their given field of expertise, but also has the depth and accuracy and span of wisdom to match said passion. When you find the thing in life that youre MEANT to be doing, it often does not come with much difficulty, so while you might be working your ass off day in and day out, if the work you're producing doesn't flow out of your brain, and into the medium you are focusing you're efforts on as easily as air enters and exits your body, you might want to reassess your trade. To truly thrive in the world, as a member of the human race is a vividly difficult and nearly non existent phenomenon, so when you witness somebody in the midst of a brilliant life and career, it makes an impact on you in a way that's difficult to describe, but nonetheless extraordinarily beautiful to bear witness to. That we should all be so fortunate to find our paths, and to tread those paths with this caliber of brilliance. The phrase "God Speed" has never felt so poignant.
Garrett Martel exactly! so you take the awesomeness of the LS architecture and give it the flexibility and tunability of direct injection. that's a big big win
i think you're missing the point. not everyone lives in USA. a lot of countries, especially in europe, have INSANE taxes for cars with high displacement engines. when annual tax for a 6 litre engine is national's average income over 6 moths, or when insurance or some random "eco" tax is more than you earn in a month, or registering the car would cost you more than the car itself, i think you would go for a smaller displacement too. i'm not saying LS engines or V8s in general are bad. they are great at making good torque and are very reliable, but they are not practical for everyone. not to mention they tent to be very thirsty. and when you earn a third or half an average american earns but fuel is 4 times more expensive, this becomes a problem too. "there's no replacement for displacement" some may say. but that's false. there is a replacement, it's called TECHNOLOGY. this is where dohc, turbo, complex electronics and admission systems come into place. they offer great power and better fuel economy in smaller engines. the tradeoff is that they cost a lot and the more complex the engines are, the less reliable they tend to be on the long run. but again, for most of us, there's no viable v8 alternative.
Here is my 2 cents as a Car enthusiast. I love JDM and I love American Muscle. I love the LSX engines. They make great engines. You got LS1's that last over 200k miles if taken care of and reliability and gas mileage is great on those big V8's. possibly up to 30mpg its also lightweight so it makes great swaps. I also grew up around the JDM scene. I cannot deny that an LSX engine will run with the best of the JDM engines but as I been around the car scene so so long you pick up a lot of things by stepping into different people's shoes. LSX is American, and Americans generally make cars to go straight. They run the quarter mile for the lowest time possible. As for the Japanese, they have mountains so their performance aren't meant to even go in a straight line. It's meant to corner and track. Looking from the JDM scene, they dont hate on American Muscle because of their engines. They prefer JDM because of their lightweight chassis. American Chassis is way too beefy and heavy around the track. That's a huge reason why jdm heads don't run slicks and track their cars. Majority of American cars cant even get a good time around the track until the late 2009's when Chevy upgraded their tech for their Camaro and Vette's which are American's top cars btw. But you have to look at it like this. The amount of power the Camaro ss makes (about 430hp) got killed by a Honda (civic type r) around the track (300hp) or even a WWgolf making 270hp. (You can check the nurburgring lap times by the bay) Even the Acura Nsx which is old technology under 300hp beat the SS around the track. Why? BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY CHASSIS. The power to weight ratio is also way off too compete on the track. IF these imports went against the SS in a quarter mile, they would get killed but as I said, For imports, they mainly care about the track.
I hope you're not agreeing with the LS engine I've been building engine for 20 years I don't know how many LS that I've built for people and it was nothing but trouble save your money find you an old used engine have it machined you get more power out of it and you save money take it from somebody that's been building engines for 20 years
@@markbarnhill6300 bro how do you know so much about the LS I can tell that you know what you're talking about did you used to build them all the time did you use to race
I talk because i know my stuff first of all ive rebuilt an ls and built another plus a 700 hp 2jz will last as long as a stock ls if u treat them the same dont bother to reply hillbily
the LS is a great engine as proved in this video, but i really think mopar and ford should come out with their own engine with the requirements: must be redially available, cheap, and a very strong reliable platform. That in short is basicly a LS but i really would like to see mopar and ford have their own versions, because i really would like to see the other companies get some praise, instead of everybody just reconising chevy. Also im tired of seeing LS engines in Chryslers, Plymouths, Dodges, Fords, Jeeps, and everything else, because i really like to see a car with the same engine in it, because when they have another engine in the car, it kinda ruins it for me. Does anyone feel the same way or am I the only one?
He’s right on aftermarket intake manifolds. I was building my Z06 7.0 and the builder suggested I change out my factory intake manifold to a short runner with a smaller plenum. Complete loss of torque on the lower end and mid range, but pulled harder 4900 and above. Swapped back to factory manifold and pulled way harder on lower end and mid range.
Good video, but I would have preferred some supporting visuals to go along with it. Like where on a piston skirt it comes out of the block when talking about long stroke cranks, or dyno sheets when talking about intakes
Absolutely amazing video, also Tom seems like a really down to earth guy, and very knowledgeable, /DRIVE should totally to a full length video, like *Inside NRE horsepower factory*, would love to see an update on their AWD mid engine hyepcar.
+Tyrone Ross That would be great!
+Tyrone Ross Inside NRE, Inside UGR and Inside AMS all would be top videos for me to watch for sure!
+Tyrone Ross THATS ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS!
+WarShrike And Heffner Performance
agree 100%..
I have been out of the engine building game for about 26 years, and man things have changed! Great job with this video. I learned a hell of a lot in 19 minutes!
Very hard to believe that this has had 4.3 million views and only recieved
I am a woodworker. I make hand cut dovetails and box joints. My joints require clearances of between 3 to 4 thousandths. So watching your video I am appreciating the multitude of factors you must take into account, and the precision that you must achieve to produce your engines. My hat is off to you, You are a master, and your video is inspirational.
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Yeah I uh, don't care..
Jake Bewely Of course you don't.
My mom cares about me 😄
Your mom cares
about me to.
It’s pretty hard to beat an LS engine. I drove my SS Camaro for 130K miles auto crossed it, open road raced it. All out mile races. Never skipped a beat. I never even changed the spark plugs!!! Car got 24mpg in 6th gear !!! Great engine the LS1.
My 92 Corvette gets 33mpg. It is a manual 6 speed
@ yea but do you have 500 HP? My LS1 was built and had close to 500 HP.
i love how he explained about the LS motor like its a art form
Yeah, seems like he has a real passion for it.
I thought he was sleep-talking
It is for it's age.
Heavy yes, but undeniably a very very well built motor. Reliable, 700-1000hp capable internals, well lubricating, etc.
I meant the 2jz-gte is not an art form.
I mean it doesn't have painted valve covers. But the layout of a twin turbo inline 6 is a pretty thing.
In my opinion at least.
Great presentation. I'm very, very far from a tuner or mechanic, but it was explained to where even I could grasp the concepts.
A man with clear passion for his work and an understanding of it all. Everyone talks about legendary tuners, Techart, RWB, AC Schnitzer, Brabus, Carlsson, Hennessey. This man, and the whole of NRE, should be on that list of tuners we all know and love.
This guy is obviously good at building LS motors, but he's even better on office chairs. He's built like 70 or 80 degrees of slouch into that thing. Mean. His face is so far away I don't even know what he looks like. What a boss.
MOS6582 lmao
Now that's funny!
😂😂 good one
Check out his stuff. Nelson racing engines. He's an engine genius.
Hey now it's taken years and years to build that slouch.
Mr. Nelson knows his shit, very intelligent individual. Thanks for the upload.
theres wiser
There are also many who know much less.
Never any sauce insight just plain beef!! Hate that!! Expected to take random persons word for it!! SMH
checkmate love to Troll a trolling troller wanna be all day. You been checked and mated further to that rejected is what you are!!
Keep trying to Troll the hunters of the realm, clearly your being nothing more then a Helm! Keep that lame response it does me no harm. Your better off spending it warming your palm. Goodnight matedchecked you just got wrecked
@@AngelValdovinos yes there is, always got mr. Steve morris. ...he is a bad ass
Best video on engineer engine builds I've seen in... Ever. Not stupid long. Not mathematically boring. Truthful.
Thank you.
The confidence makes the man, dude has for sure been doing it for along time.
I am perfectly happy with the LSA in my CTS-V coupe. Only has a couple of bolt on mods but has all sorts of power. Love hearing that blower wind up too.
"The motor is really about a combination of parts". As a seasoned tuner there could not be more of a true statement. My job is to ensure the combination plays nice together and is optimized to run as effectively as possible. The most important part of making power and hitting your goals is to create the correct combination, not just throw the "hottest" part at it and hope for the best.
Don't know you, but I know the difference between bullshit and a man that knows what he's talking about.
My hotrodding days are over, I'm 73, but wish I had another go around to play with the LS.
Enjoyed your presentation.
Yeah, Nelson definitely knows his stuff. Check out his video on the RX-7 sleeper. That's when I fell in love!
I had a 99 Camaro Z28 with the LS-1 but one day I let my brother borrow my car then I had a 1999 Paperweight. He was showing out for a girl and slammed into a light pole.
IT'SME HELL YEA! HAHA
That is like lending a motorcycle to a bicyclist..
You would never lend out a MC to a complete novice but a cyclist certainly would have a better appreciation than the average car driver. Many of the most famous MX'rs from the 80's who raced the next gen Jap banshee's 125/250's (83'+) Began their careers in competitive BMX
10/2024: Good Day. I bought my 2004 Z06 Commemorative Corvette New. It has an LS6 and today 131,000 miles on it. It's been up to 171 MPH (I ran out of highway then) still runs like new, gets in the mid 20 MPG and doesn't leak a drop. Still on the factory original clutch. I've driven it, but not hard very often. I'm an old MOPAR guy for the most part. A few 440 magnums and some others. This is the best engine that I have ever owned.
Thank You for Posting This. Excellent. A great find and I have subscribed. Excellent.
Amazing video, the way this guy sits there so casually spitting out tech data off the top of his head like that is cool. I would really enjoy sitting and listening to him for days
Love the new series, please make an /ENGINEERED playlist on the main channel page.
Ive been a tech for 8 years and this is so interesting to me. I would love to get the chance to build performance engines. Anything performance I build now is out of my pocket which is hard when I have so many hobbies.
Thanks Tom Nelson for giving us an deep justed professional opinion on the GM LS mill! You are an awesome engine technician! I just love your videos they are very enjoyable and informative. Your specialty builds are like artwork!
don't care what anyone says, tom nelson is the man
Thanks for the education. I'm talking bullet points, I'm in over my head trying to soak it all in. I'm sure I have a much better grasp of a 6.0 build for a mild jeep than were my head was before learning today.... Thanks Mr Nelson
Nelson builds some incredible power plants, not just LS! these guys are very talented builders
Steve morris is better!!!
The LS, 2JZ-GTE, RB26, and 1.3 liter twin turbo 13B rotary engines are all great and legendary engines that are great to work with. They all love making big and decent amount of power. Great presentation Nelson!
Rb26 are not that great stock lol. And rotary are unreliable time bombs
@@muzzytt You're definetly wrong
@@verttisyrjala2897 how so what I said is true
@@verttisyrjala2897 well I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings but a rotary engine is certainly not a reliable engine. Just go ask R X 8 owners how they are going.
@@verttisyrjala2897 lol ok it's obvious you have no idea what you're on about.
Great content on the LS. "Spend the money on the foundation and by the right block" The details matter and are in the blue print. I'll be building one soon and put it on video.
Oldskool funk are you still going to do an LS? I remember watching a few of your videos a few years ago, I think the one about leaky head gaskets.
On second thought it might be hard to do an ls with smog laws depending on your state.
Great to see you right here love the videos on God keep it up
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All this time i thought i needed S38 or M54 ... LS1/3/7 is what i need
+M S38 the S38 is one hell of an engine, glad to see others than me appreciate it too :)
hobo.Saize420 Well sadly i've yet to drive an M5 e34, but i drive a 520i M20 :/
M S38 The M20 is classy mate, its easy to work on, cheap and reliable so whats the problem? :)
I agree with all the above, and it makes a great sound. But the 2.0 version with 129 hp and 170 nm of torque is a bit gutless for a 1500 kg car ! (but plenty of power on the wet without any traction control ! :)
VANOS POWER!
I feel like if John Hennessey and Tom Nelson are is the same room, the world will end.
+Josh Lewis Hennessy and nelson would probably end up killing everyone and themselves with turbos
+jaky3 John and his family are super nice! I live near them and always get a chance to talk to them whenever I see them.
Oh I'm sure he puts up a nice role on when he wants. Read up on him.
jaky3 Well, not that I know of. Haha. But I'll definitely be more alert next time I talk to him.
+Ariel Zelada John Hennessey is a grade A douche. I didn't believe people and then I actually read up on him, and holy shit. I still can't believe what I read over a year ago. don't buy anything from him. just a warning bud.
Love my 98 six speed Corvette. Got a good deal on it in 2017 and it already had a couple of external mods to boost up the HP a bit. The performance of that LS motor for what I paid for the car is so worth it...
3:57 That's Harry Bridges Ave. The recent work has made the part by the 110 freeway look really nice but as it turns into Alameda another half mile ahead of where they're shooting, it's the old Wilmington we all know and "love." (Anaheim St near Alameda develops pot holes with their own zip codes, in fact I just blew out a tire over there last month)
Dang, I learn more from this guy than from any other boutique builder out there! I'm already worried that I screwed up with a standard deck 427 custom block.
Dude makes some good points... I always here folks talk about building a coyote motor and my general response is "i didn't know you were rich?!". As much as folks talk shit about LS swaps they happen for a reason and most often that reason is performance to dollar. LS is hard to beat.
true. You swap an LS3 into any honda/Miata/s13, with FBO+Tune, and it immediately becomes a 10 second car. These engines are no joke and the amount of power these things can handle, on stock bottom end, is ridiculous(700whp, which is near 900hp at the crank, is considered "Safe" for Forced Induction). I have a 5th gen SS and imagine the amount of power it could have had if the weight was similar to the 4th's...
We break the suspension/diff's a lot more often than blowing the motor.... A mid camshaft swap is already pushing the Camaro into mid 11's on street tires(at 4k+ lbs with driver+gas)... There's plenty of Camaro's running 10's on a big GPI camshaft.
Corvette's, which sit at 3400lbs with driver+gas, is a pretty massive advantage with an engine like this.
Mr. Nelson creates some of the best engine setups. The man is a complete master of the V8 engine. How awesome you got him to sit down and drop some free golden knowledge on us. This is one guy worth listening too. Thanks for this video. PS The man knows his Turbo setups just as well. Even creating his own unique turbo setups made up of varieties of different materials.
Knowledge IS "POWER"! This man definitely knows.
This Is Such a Mello' Cadenced' Matter of Fact' Smooth and Almost Therapeutic Interview! 😶 👍🇺🇸
that mans knowledge is freaking sick
5 stars to you Nelson
This is one smart cookie and he speaks from experience. Even I can tell he knows what he's talking about. If I wanted to get an engine done he would be the one I would go to first.
Great video. I have an LS2 in a CTS-V and, though it's performing perfectly, the desire to get another 100HP out of it is always there...
Updates?
I don't know shit about cars, yet watching this guy explain all this stuff was oddly satisfying.
quite easy to understand as well
W/the boss azz soundtrack.
Jawan Brown dude it’s a man thing... it’s biological!
He owns it.... And superCHILL 🤘
Nelson knows what he's doing... If I win the Lottery I'm sending my car to him.
Nelson he's been around and he's pretty good. I had one of his engines and it was pretty stout. My big block big procharger stuff I have Scott "PAR" do. Nelson is a good boosted sbc guys.
The part that discusses long stroke cranks is soooooo important. Tall deck block and keep that puppy where it's supposed to be! LS7 is extended the sleeves past the block. All of this is mentioned in his video! Smart man. Seriously, Nelson is no joke.
You guys should of asked this legend about "breaking in" engines. Damn.
+Knights2theEnd I agree. That would have been a great question for him.
+Knights2theEnd omg, I'm so in agreement.
+Knights2theEnd omg, I'm so in agreement.
leloodallasmultipass it's such a disappointment :/
+Knights2theEnd
There is no particular way of doing it. Some people don't even bother "breaking in" engines and just go all out from the start and haven't suffered any issues. So there is no evidence for it, although I would feel a lot more comfortable taking it easy on a new engine for a few hundred miles.
Like the Bob Ross of engine building, I could listen to this all day long
I love how producers can make you feel power by what the interviewer is describing plus the background music 🔥🔥🔥 just the first 6-7 minutes just snatched you... most don’t understand.. 😲 Great job
wow, 30 years building, racing and a shop owner, I wish WISH every guy I ever had walk in to the shop asking for a hotrod watches this.. Very elegant explanations...
Trying to educate about "combinations" is like digging holes in sand to most guys..
Nelson is an legend if it comes to his engines...dude knows his shit.
Lots of nice input in this video, unfortunately this doesn't apply to other countries.
V8 in junkyard ? Not even in dreams...
+spark972 Yeah, exactly what I thought! You will sometimes find V8's in junkyards where I live - they are almost always 1UZ-FE's from old Toyota's and Lexus's - which are good engines but hard to get big power out of, or possibly a shitty LT small block from a Holden Commodore.
+spark972 Same here.
And when there's one it gets ripped apart in 12 hours.
Yep, and here they get ripped apart by the guys that work at the yard before we get to even see them. Also any solid transmissions, gone before they are in sight. 😞
That sucks for you guys. There are hordes of LS engines in the junkyard thanks to all the pickups and SUVs from Chevy, GMC and Cadillac. Almost all the truck blocks are iron. 4.8L and 5.3L are a dime a dozen. I find them all the time with all the accessories, harness, ECU, and trans for about $1200 with 100k miles. Usually can get another 100k before the trans gives out, but the motor keeps going.
It's not so bad, 2jz, rb25 and Barra 270t are all easy to get here.
"LS swaps are stupid" - 17 year old JDM fanboy who has never had a car faster than 15s 1/4 mile
+Josh Wallace and his car sounds like a dying vacuum with a cazoo attached
+Lucas Boyden HAHAHA
+Lucas Boyden lmfao
+Lucas Boyden lmfao and with those parts from AutoZone super wack
My favorite one lately is "why would you put that motor in a rx7" I'm like "hahahaha"
Thanks for the video. Like many guys, I have always dreamed of fabricating machines and building engines. Unfortunately, my military career did not afford the luxury of staying in one place long enough to get established. Watching your video gave me a lot of food for thought, and concepts to research as I tinker through my retirement. I think it would be an amazing experience to work under, and be mentored by you.
First video in a while where they didn't tell me to go to /Drive+ ....this makes me wonder why Toyota doesnt sell 2JZ crate motors. The prices on 2JZ GTE's is getting ridiculous as the engine has aged. If they started remanufacturing them they could make a profit and it would lower the price. I can't imagine there isn't a market for that.
Agree 2jzgte are at different level for being manufactured in the 90's
+Pickle312 japan has a diffrent way of seeing there cars. what is out now can only be topped by next years model, they are to progressive to look back
+BigzeeeN Last iron block 2jz... Also new dodge hellcats v8 supercharger use iron block but thats the only one that use iron these days
+Pickle312 there isn't a market big enough for it, especially with the price of the v160.
+Pickle312
Because realistically to get a 2jz to do what LS's do would drive the cost of a crate motor to something ridiculous. Would be willing to pay 22k for a long block? A long block that's destined to grenade to begin with at that? 2jz's are awesomely capable but their issues start with their displacement and people's unrealistic expectations of what the motor is capable of.
I also remember the commercials they did where they put the wine glasses on an LS hood and revved it up....wonderful stuff back then.
I think you are referring to the original lexus ls 400 commercial..not GM ls motors
Good discussion on long-stroke cranks at about 11:00.
I love the ad hoc lighting fix. An easel pad on the table. Took me 12 minutes to even notice it because he was dropping so much fact :)
The best part about an LS Swap is the hurt feeling when I lift the hood of my old Ford.
I get it! I am hesitant to replace the 50+ year old block in my Firebird. A friend once told me, "Its your car, do what ever the F&$% you want!" Don't ever build a car (or anything for that matter) to impress someone, you will always be chasing someone else's dream....
If it helps any, the overall architecture is way more similar to a FORD, it is Chevy way of imitation.
i cannot buy an engine from them... i will buy a tshirt some day.
i love this video should do a Why is the 2JZ so good? next
+joseph martinez Yes plz
I'll second that... I'll take a 2JZ over a LS any day
+joseph martinez 2Jz is an overhyped engine.
PIG fat 600Lbs.
not fuel efficient
not small
not cheap to modify.
+saratov99 Since when? I love both motors and i own cars with both motors. The 2JZ really only runs into problems once its starts pushing like 600 wheel ftlbs of torque and there are plenty of guys running with 800whp on stock internals with no issues. both are literally Kings and Queens of motors....the 2jz being the queen of course.
all you guys are looking at my original post wrong. i never said the 2J was better, i was just saying they should do more videos like this one about other motors.
As a student of engine blueprinting and extracting horsepower from any engine these is a great overview, good reminders and tips. Would love to work on an LS engine!
Ford guy here , the LS is a great engine, but the fanboys make me hate it at some times...
Every brand, make, model of everything out there has fan boys and they kill it for everyone :(
+1975 First On Race Day Capri 3.0 Ghia I'm a die hard chevy guy(Or any brand Big Block :P) but the LS craze got to me, I would rather put an old school SBC or BBC in any ride over a LS at this point, can't beat the sound either. I love the LS though, they're amazing engines and superior to the SBC,... but... BIG BLOCK!
+1975 First On Race Day Capri 3.0 Ghia Don't hate the engine, hate fanboys.... I can't stand them either as they tend to lack technical knowledge just read brochure and boom they are experts.
Evo Shift lol yeah right the LS had NO FANBOYS , bullshit....
+32bitcal Idk. Not me. I literally hate everyone. Everyone sucks and needs to fuck off. 👍
LS is an amazing swap because you can fit them in almost anything. Like the Miata. It's one of those cars that you have to be up close to understand the actual size. It's crazy you can fir a 6.2l in that thing. You can barely fit a 5.0l Coyote.(Not knocking the Coyote. It's still one of my favorites)
The coyote is awesome but I don't see it ever being as swappable
Yes, but this is one case where it might be more swappable than the LS, which I believe is the reason that Gregory brought it up.
There's a kit out there specifically designed to fit a Ford V8 in a Miata called Monster Miata. Perhaps things have changed with all of the LS mania in the last few years, but I don't think there's anything out there for the LS. You're on your own making mounting brackets and such. What's funny about it is that something like this could have happened: Ford and Mazda cooperated on several models from the 60s up until recently.
TBustah Flyin Miata has a miata with an LS3 swap on the new ND Miata. Theyre looking to release a kit soon. Worth checking out
B/c the Coyote is 6,000-35,000$.
LS are dirt cheap.
Coyote my ass ls7 all the way
The one US thing I wish we had more of in the UK...
Don’t forget about guns.
The LS engines sound SO good. Almost every V8 sounds so good. Of all the engine configurations, the American style pushrod V8 engines have the most vicious sound at low RPM's, when idling, and when cruising around. They aren't the most high tech, but the sound is so satisfying.
Knowledge
That is one of the best series about performance on RUclips. Please make an new ENGINEERED series
300 hours per engine, at 100 bucks an hour that's a 30k a motor
and thats just labor...
if you want a twin turbo engine from this guy you need to spend at least 30k. Some of his engines are 60k or more.
Check out Nelson Racing Engines, they are great also
Harry Henderson If you cannot pay, then dont play!
yeah but you can daily drive them and itll go from pump to vp fuel in a switch whenever you want. its worth it than spending 90k for a hellcat...
All I’m saying, I’ve never seen a ford engine swapped into anything, usually is out the door and replaced with a build hemi or ls.
The 9 inch GODFATHER or RearEnds.
Built Ford Tough.
...gotta have em tho
The 5.0 had a decent run back in the 90s. But then they went the modular OHC route vs GMs LS and lost any headway.
People were swapping 5.0s into Miatas for a while.
zaknefain100 lol not many. Who would do such a thing. Its heavy and it could barely fit in the engine bay. The LS is so small and light.
@@RBZ06LT6 well i don't disagree but it was a thing for a while. then again, the LSx wasn't yet on the scene. Believe there was an outfit doing the swaps... called it the Monster Miata.
totally enjoyed that! he talks alot of sense!
I may be a JDM main but that doesn't change the fact that I love all cars from any country, and honestly more people need to watch this video, I already liked the ls but this video was an eye opener. Props 💯
LS, Coyote, JZ, all good engines
whatever you say fanboy. numbers speak otherwise. why can't you appreciate engineering beyond brand names?
whatever. narrowminded fanboy troll
+supra1722 I've owned 2 of the 3 and since the 2JZ (the one I haven't) is a known quantity to everyone, I can attest to the truth of this statement.
+Tyler Smith The youtube comment system is so dumb that people are having conversations and I have no idea what they are talking about because all I can see is Supra1722 statement and he is responding to someone who I can not see........
Yes these are all solid engines
Forgot about the mustang terminator motor
Love this new series.
Music credits? Seriously I need that track, so chill.
+Ronald Colman you referring to the first song at 0:37?
+Sergeant Ramathorn found it, it's "Move Along"found it, it's "Move Along" by "George Coutsoudis" but I think this might be a remix of this beat
Thanks, and yes the first one.
Did you borrow that name from the WWZ book? Great username.
+Ronald Colman from the movie "Super Troopers". Also I'm not 100% certain the song I listed is correct on second thought. It could be also be " Mr. Undercover" by Axel Wolph but even this song isn't identical. :(
I bent the valves on my '94 Volvo 960 this month (again). I would love to put a LS in there, what a smile it puts on my face thinking about it! My buddy wants me to drop a forklift motor in it instead. The timing belt is so thin that year that I let it go too long, next year has better belt.
"Let's play music during the interview so people have to strain to hear what he's saying!"
Awww I hope your tummy feels better
@@baby-sharkgto4902 tummy? What?
We call him..Motor Yoda
I could listen to this guy talk all day. It's refreshing to hear a real pro after wading through all the oceans of content crapped out by snake oil peddlers, know-nothings, and weekend warriors like me.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. A lot of good info, some people would charge for this depth of knowledge!!
Building the LS in my '13 Silverado now, and its the first endeavor on this platform; I am considering building one for my first gen Firebird after.
Lastly, I can contest in my limited experience on the LS block, Tuning will make a HUGE difference. After valve train work, my motor struggled to start. A couple weeks of tuning (PC Tuners), and I can lay rubber (just a bit) in second!!!
This guy is good! I want to put the LS7 in my new Jeep Rubicon sooo bad. This is like an addict watching people shoot up and he cannot partake! Damnit!
Just smoke meth problem solved
Never dis another man's ride. It's a lot like dissing his wife.
Lame
Why would you,... OMG, LS in a Rubicon? Do you want to make it slower?
Look at the FCA crate motors, there's even enough room in the Rubicon for the V10.
PiDsPagePrototypes I don't care about speed. I want raw power and reliability. THe LS has both is spades!
this is why ls prices have never fallen
+Liemciemdk89 if they fall more then they would be for free
+Liemciemdk89 i cna get an iron 5.3 engine form a scrap yard for 300-350$ how much do you want them to fall???
+86gtforme For the price of a used 350. LS maybe cheap compared to imports but they are still very expensive compared to small and big block Chevy's
GMdrivingMOPARguy the engines cost about the same where i live, but the ls needs a more electronics where are a sbc doesnt so that causes a price difference. however big blocks here are double the price of an ls, if you can find me a "running" big block for 350$ let me know haha
+Liemciemdk89 this is why ls prices are rising**
Mechanical empathy is what makes a genius mechanic this man has it. Stroker sleeves example. LS7
If your aren't familiar with what a brilliant man sounds like when he's found his true path in life, watch this. It's refreshing to hear somebody who is not only profoundly passionate about their given field of expertise, but also has the depth and accuracy and span of wisdom to match said passion. When you find the thing in life that youre MEANT to be doing, it often does not come with much difficulty, so while you might be working your ass off day in and day out, if the work you're producing doesn't flow out of your brain, and into the medium you are focusing you're efforts on as easily as air enters and exits your body, you might want to reassess your trade. To truly thrive in the world, as a member of the human race is a vividly difficult and nearly non existent phenomenon, so when you witness somebody in the midst of a brilliant life and career, it makes an impact on you in a way that's difficult to describe, but nonetheless extraordinarily beautiful to bear witness to. That we should all be so fortunate to find our paths, and to tread those paths with this caliber of brilliance. The phrase "God Speed" has never felt so poignant.
LS is, all things considered, probably the best engine ever. A lot of people go on about overhead cam etc but they're really missing the point.
Simon Coles new LT motor. move over LS
the LT is essentially an LS with direct injection built from the same base
Garrett Martel exactly! so you take the awesomeness of the LS architecture and give it the flexibility and tunability of direct injection. that's a big big win
Miami and Barra Turbo > Loser Shit
i think you're missing the point. not everyone lives in USA. a lot of countries, especially in europe, have INSANE taxes for cars with high displacement engines. when annual tax for a 6 litre engine is national's average income over 6 moths, or when insurance or some random "eco" tax is more than you earn in a month, or registering the car would cost you more than the car itself, i think you would go for a smaller displacement too.
i'm not saying LS engines or V8s in general are bad. they are great at making good torque and are very reliable, but they are not practical for everyone. not to mention they tent to be very thirsty. and when you earn a third or half an average american earns but fuel is 4 times more expensive, this becomes a problem too.
"there's no replacement for displacement" some may say. but that's false. there is a replacement, it's called TECHNOLOGY. this is where dohc, turbo, complex electronics and admission systems come into place. they offer great power and better fuel economy in smaller engines. the tradeoff is that they cost a lot and the more complex the engines are, the less reliable they tend to be on the long run. but again, for most of us, there's no viable v8 alternative.
What's that epic music playing in the background?
Here is my 2 cents as a Car enthusiast. I love JDM and I love American Muscle. I love the LSX engines. They make great engines. You got LS1's that last over 200k miles if taken care of and reliability and gas mileage is great on those big V8's. possibly up to 30mpg its also lightweight so it makes great swaps. I also grew up around the JDM scene. I cannot deny that an LSX engine will run with the best of the JDM engines but as I been around the car scene so so long you pick up a lot of things by stepping into different people's shoes. LSX is American, and Americans generally make cars to go straight. They run the quarter mile for the lowest time possible. As for the Japanese, they have mountains so their performance aren't meant to even go in a straight line. It's meant to corner and track. Looking from the JDM scene, they dont hate on American Muscle because of their engines. They prefer JDM because of their lightweight chassis. American Chassis is way too beefy and heavy around the track. That's a huge reason why jdm heads don't run slicks and track their cars. Majority of American cars cant even get a good time around the track until the late 2009's when Chevy upgraded their tech for their Camaro and Vette's which are American's top cars btw. But you have to look at it like this. The amount of power the Camaro ss makes (about 430hp) got killed by a Honda (civic type r) around the track (300hp) or even a WWgolf making 270hp. (You can check the nurburgring lap times by the bay) Even the Acura Nsx which is old technology under 300hp beat the SS around the track. Why? BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY CHASSIS. The power to weight ratio is also way off too compete on the track. IF these imports went against the SS in a quarter mile, they would get killed but as I said, For imports, they mainly care about the track.
The new vette has set a new record this year what is your information based on haha
Obviously never heard of the acr viper, which destroyed almost every Japanese car around the nurburgring
Ford GT40.
WRONG!!!!
Very good educational video for someone who doesn’t know much about engines. The presentation was great!
I have so much more respect for Nelson than Hennessy.
Pls what is the soundtrack you guys used for this video???????????????????????????????????
Jeff Tremaine's brother?
I agree with you, I have been building engines for over 35 years! And yes, doing all of the machine work!!!
I hope you're not agreeing with the LS engine I've been building engine for 20 years I don't know how many LS that I've built for people and it was nothing but trouble save your money find you an old used engine have it machined you get more power out of it and you save money take it from somebody that's been building engines for 20 years
@@DWO619 the LS is a great platform, it went to crap in 07 with the AFM platform. 06 and down is great!
@@markbarnhill6300 bro how do you know so much about the LS I can tell that you know what you're talking about did you used to build them all the time did you use to race
Nice, very nice. Now do one on why the 2jz was good.
In 2jz we trust
+Kartez Drake Would have to be in Black and White as that engine is prehistoric :)
+M3Conv lmfao and its still more modern you idiot your comparing it to a pushrod engine im not hating on them but just image if chevy made a dohc v8
I talk because i know my stuff first of all ive rebuilt an ls and built another plus a 700 hp 2jz will last as long as a stock ls if u treat them the same dont bother to reply hillbily
Yes it was im building a 2l with 600 hp goal if u build anything right it will last
I saw an LS swapped Honda CR-V on Instagram.talk about a sleeper
+Elite47Productions If you couldnt hear it then it would. You see the CR-V just a camming you know something is up.
I just wanna know the name of the instrumental playing in the beginning.
Tangerine Dream
Robby Gee could you be more specific,.
@@mohitajay69 - Tangerine Dream/Love on a train
@@mohitajay69 ruclips.net/video/epOf2RLqLdw/видео.html
Robby Gee thanks for sharing. I am actually been looking for the intro track at 0:55. I hope someone comes along to solve my craving for that one!
I love my LS1, in Aussie the locally built Barra turbo charged straight six. They make huge power and good for six cylinder swap outs
Nelson doesn't mess about!!
What's the song playing from 0:36?
the LS is a great engine as proved in this video, but i really think mopar and ford should come out with their own engine with the requirements: must be redially available, cheap, and a very strong reliable platform. That in short is basicly a LS but i really would like to see mopar and ford have their own versions, because i really would like to see the other companies get some praise, instead of everybody just reconising chevy. Also im tired of seeing LS engines in Chryslers, Plymouths, Dodges, Fords, Jeeps, and everything else, because i really like to see a car with the same engine in it, because when they have another engine in the car, it kinda ruins it for me. Does anyone feel the same way or am I the only one?
+Jake Morris amen to that
***** yeah i guess youre right, i mean i dont know why they ever switched to DOHC because the old engines were much better in every way, except mpg.
Jeremy Hall What? No its not its GM's design not a knock off of a ford
One can find a 5.7 hemi pretty easily I'd imagine... Chrysler put them in everything
Ford has the Barra
He’s right on aftermarket intake manifolds. I was building my Z06 7.0 and the builder suggested I change out my factory intake manifold to a short runner with a smaller plenum. Complete loss of torque on the lower end and mid range, but pulled harder 4900 and above. Swapped back to factory manifold and pulled way harder on lower end and mid range.
I KNOW THIS IS COMPLETELY "OFF SUBJECT" BUT WHAT IS THAT FIRST JAZZ LIKE SONG SONG????!!!!!
also curious
That is what I am looking for
same. contacted Drive on FB, no reply
fredd164 found out anything? I still want the song lol
Anyone found it yet, it’s been five years now! HELP!
my dream engine is the LS
what is the music from 0:37 - 3:55?
a name? genre? style? remix? anything? please!!!
benji boko - jungle VIP
Is that the original version?
Good video, but I would have preferred some supporting visuals to go along with it. Like where on a piston skirt it comes out of the block when talking about long stroke cranks, or dyno sheets when talking about intakes
I only watch this for the background music and when he saids, 'camcord'
And there are a LOT of 1500hp iron street engines.
2jz
17:07 "the more you know the less you know"
You know your stuff for sure mate. Owned a few Ls now and Id have you build my next for sure.
Foundations are key. From NZ.