Oddly enough, the part where she grabs the guy to get his measurements is unrealistic but not for why you would think. It is wrong because it is unnecessary. When I joined the military they had this guy who worked in clothing issue whose job was to give you the right size service uniforms. He could tell your measurements down to the nearest half inch just by looking at you. We all lined up and he walked down the line and told us our numbers then we would grab from the box that matched. He was right 95% of the time. Most amazing thing I saw while there.
+Xzerkces that may be true, but how long did it take to get that good, the movie says they had a year to to the whole thing, which leaves only several months for her to have been able to do that, which I really can't see happening
Partariothegoth I don't know how long it would take, probably about as long as it would take to learn how to size someone up by putting hands on them.
9 лет назад+20
+Partariothegoth We learned that the plan had been motion for a year, not that this is when they started honing their skills.Either way I'm pretty sure that most of the things they could do were things they were capable of beforehand.
But with the second one being called "The Second Act" you know that they will at least make a third one called "The Finale" or "The Final Act" or something. I've always said the same thing but after seeing the second movie you can tell there will be another one.
The only part that killed it for me is the hypnotizing bullshit...the guy literally has comic book level super powers...how is he not not ruling the freaking world instead of being a struggling street magician?!
Psychic Pirate yer but like I Just told another guy it may be real but you don't have to go all technical bullshit on us some of us don't actually give a shit
I think the reason behind them saying "For our final act!" at the beginning of their show, is because they meant their final act in Las Vegas. I got the impression that they'd been performing there for like a week or something and this was their final show before they moved on.
@@vivekpanchpal6987 of im not mistaken the audience in that show is picked by the horsemen thats why they have the exact same bank app (im not really sure though)
On the "how do they deserve to get into the Eye" point - it was explicitly mentioned earlier in the film that initiates would have to take a leap of faith and follow instructions without knowing the concluding point. Additionally, their instructions involved things that only their own high-caliber, mildly (or not so mildly) fictional skills would let them pull off.
he didn't, he is trying to be persuasive to make the people believe that what he is saying is right by only showing the parts of info he wants. Its like forcing a card on an audience in at a magic show
Or or or he has to watch these movies , write jokes for them plus record and edit these videos at least twice a week. He doesn't have time to double fact check each and every joke.
No more annoyingly long names well i guess the title needs to change then. Something along the lines of: Some of the things wrong with *insert movie title*? Yeah that's not a good excuse/reason. IF you're trying to make money from pointing out the flaws in someone else's work (whether in humour or not), you really should be making sure you don't make mistakes.
That’s y I don’t like it bruv just too many flaws in it and where’s the actual story I only saw it once at a friends bday party and on the inside I was like “ this movie is dumb “ And if your wondering yes this came up in my recommended and I have nothing else to do
Just trying to provide an answer, it's a psychological defense. No one wants to be wrong, so when someone critiques something a person likes, instead of generating a discussion, it might just make the person dig their feet in more to protect their egos and self-worth instead of re-evaluating something and admitting that they are possibly wrong about something.
I love CinemaSins in general, but I completely disagree with this video. Dylan DIDN'T plan all of the tricks out, he DIDN'T know what was going to happen, so half of these "sins" are wrong. The Four Horsemen never knew who their contact was (i.e didn't know it was Dylan) and had to plan everything themselves. Dylan had nothing to do with it as it was his test of them, to see if they could do it alone. That's why he reacted to every little trick the way he did, because he had no idea it was going to happen in the first place. He didn't know how they would do it, he just wanted to see if they could.
you keep saying if they could do "it", test them to see if they can do "it" and they did "it" all on their own. what the hell is "it"? avenging his daddy's death? also, at the beginning of the movie there's a whole shitload of 3D hologram blueprints that looked pretty detailed, almost like there were a plan/instructions. AND they specifically say towards the end "our instructions end" therefore they had instructions to begin with. love the movie, but it's all effects and cast, no real plot, though i prefer this original idea over another reboot/sequel/adaptation.
"It" was the robbery of Michael Caine's character, the making evident of the safe company's fraudulency and the heist at the end (can't remember them in good detail). And you say that Dylan gave them the big plan at the beginning along with instructions... I can sit you down, give you a box of Lego's and give you instructions to build a little house. You can build that house any way you like, so long as you get it done. Dylan (then a mystery man) told them this is what they had to do with the blueprints. After that, they could complete their goals any way they saw fit I think.
so yeah, revenge for daddy. and what im understanding from you is, youre saying dylan gave them instructions on how to do these things, but they actually "created" their own instructions to a ridiculously complex plan to begin with, and followed them so that dylan doesnt catch them? when you have instructions you either follow them (meaning dylan should know their steps) or you go about it in your own way (which i dont see how is possible with a plan that was so detailed and difficult from the get-go). those 3d blueprints didnt say "rob this dude, rob another dude, frame a third dude", they obviously contained a very detailed plan which they executed as instructed. obviously this is just my opinion
No, not really? The 3D blueprints DIDN'T contain " a very detailed plan" they contained objectives to achieve however they saw fit. Why let them into the Eye if they weren't tested at all?
7:37 Dylan's father only tried to perform that trick because he thought he knew what the safe was made of and how it worked. But because the safe manufacturers cut corners with the materials they used to make the safe (which is illegal), the metal didn't react to water pressure the way it should have and Dylan's father was trapped inside. Plus, given that he was a famous magician and he was basically challenging the manufacturers' product quality with that trick, they would have known about the trick and should have been held accountable for, at the very least, not warning the guy that of the risk in using a possibly already defective safe in his trick
If he knew the trick was dangerous why not test the safe at depth first before climbing in for himself.Any decent competent magician always have test runs through new tricks to make sure they are safe. The guy was an idiot for not testing everything rigorously first. He only had himself to blame.
The water pressure warped the metal of the safe and trapped him inside. How would testing it at a SAFE DEPTH have helped him predict how metal would react at a deeper depth (and therefore under stronger water pressure)?
I said "test the safe at depth" Not "test at a safe depth". I would have sent the safe down to the depth I would be performing the most dangerous stunt of my career at empty. Then I would have hauled it back up. Next I would have noticed the warped metal and said something like "Holy shit! if I'd have gone down in that thing I'd be dead right now, good job I'm not completely incompetent.
Ah, my mistake. I read that "at safe depth". My guess is that he was probably relying on experience and expertise to know the trick would work, but neither of those things could account for crooked safe manufacturors. The dangerous part of the trick was whether he'd be able to make his way out and swim to the surface. Given that he was acting under the assumption that the information he had about the safe and its materials was accurate, maybe he just didn't have any reason to think the safe could malfunction. It's not like he had any way to know about the manufacturers' illegal dealings. And he was an experienced magician, not a novice, so it's not like he would be the type to miscalculate that stuff. *shrug*
+IceFire1800 The next movie is a sequel. When you say "Now You See Me" you normally either think or say "Now You Don't". I think it makes perfect sense.
The second and fifth The Fast and the furious film were named Too Fast Too Furious and Fast Five. That wasn't a problem at all. Calling it Now You Don't could actually be good marketing wise because it's intuitive. The only problem is it would make a third film almost impossible to happen.
I've been saying this for years!! The only thing is that now there is definitely going to be a third one called "the final act" or something like that. Especially after watching the second movie, they will definitely make a third
It's one of those smart movies that are actually kinda dumb, yet still pretty cool and enjoyable if one can restrain themselves from... thinking... for a couple of hours.
Jamdog244 he sinned it because the original part was dumb and could've been taken out because why wouldn't you check your phone. Also he rewatches them on his computer to nitpick. In which he clearly states in dozens of videos. He knows he's a dick to movies.
the romance between the detective and french woman was what bothered me the most tbh. It was so random and completely out of the blue with NOTHING leading up to it. made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Yeah, I thought the directors were going for something like in Men In Black 1 where the vet lady and J were still friends because they knew their priorities...that was hoped to be quite refreshing. Her likeable wit and attitude that would no way let her give in that easily...I WANTED TO BE HER BUDDY, DAMMIT. (._.)"
because while riddled with plot holes and an actual weak premise, this movie was actually entretaining and well acted, so ergo is not that bad, that or is so under the radar the cinema sins guy doesn't think is worth much time and detail, take your pick.
Have to admit I liked this film, maybe more than it deserved. It takes quite a suspension of disbelief, but I still think it works. It helps that I love Jesse Eisenberg. I'd watch him in anything. Woody Harrelson, Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Melanie Laurent, Mark Ruffalo... also very watchable. And I liked the twist. But yeah, I really am pretty good at suspending disbelief :P
+Buffoon1980 i love how cinema sins have sins, when you think of it there is no way he have 144 m dollars in 1 account which freakin means he got wayy more money than what they can track, i mean there really is an "untraceable money" if you really count that cinema sins are only making sins up cause they just need some by the way BECAUSE HE is the perpetrator of it all and that he IS a magician doesn't that mean HE have to ACT like real cop and by saying freeze despite knowing he'll be tackled by 20 ppl is to make MORE sense AND EVERYTHING IS A SET UP FOR da desirable PLOT TWISTT
+Buffoon1980 Actually, it doesn't work. The premise of the movie is to hold its viewer on par with a viewer of a trick of an illusionist. While a real trick of an illusionist, the reveal ends with logical conclusions to how the trick was actually done, while this movie's reveal leads to illogical, nonsensical and downright mindnumbingly retarded explanations. The twists are also just there as a mean, "Oh, you didn't expect this". While a clever thought out movie would mislead through in hindsight plausible, but unsuspected twists. This makes twists, only to throw off its audience, that are only mislead, due to the story being told, leading up to the twist. In essence twists that are just done to be twists, but defies everything that lead to it, making those parts working against the movie itself. In short it is only a twist because it betrays itself. This movie is an intellectual insult, while trying to sell it to the viewer as clever. The retardation is at its finest, when Freeman sees jailtime, because people they were chasing for a heist, and an account hacking job, literally filled his car with money. Suspension of disbelief, sure, but not for the right reasons.
Exactly. There's the suspension of disbelief that a pilot from Earth can get a magic space ring that grants him the power to wield willpower like a superpower, the suspension of disbelief that a human can be born with the power to manipulate flame because of an odd gene he was born with that manifests as a teenager, the suspension of disbelief that one man can have a long and successful career as a weak alcohol drinking womanizing spy, and then there's the suspension of disbelief that a man can distort reality because 'magic'. What's the difference between these? All of my previous examples were from movie series that had elements of the fantastic or the bizarre that makes their characters and abilities fit into their cinematic universe except the last one. You cannot have a world where everything is like the 'real world' except for this one element unless you work really hard to explain and showcase that one said element, which this movie did not. I can believe that every one of this man's abilities are possible, but not in the cinematic world he is supposed to live in. (Of course, I disagree with some of the terminology used in the argument above, but it doesn't make it any less valid.)
Professor Persona I think you are on the right track, but you misrepresent some of the argument. When it comes to a movie that has supernatural phenomenon as a premise you buy this premise. And do not need further explanation other than well... powers/magic. This movie, however, tries to explain logical and reasoning behind the tricks just like an illusionist would, if he indeed told his secrets of misdirection, deception etc. The problem here though are that the explanations are so mindnumbingly retarded, unplausible and illogical, that it would have been better to just leave them as first category; just because you can do anything. They are an afterthought, and ultimately a intellectual insult to the viewer, while trying to act clever. It is not. It is an insult to the viewer that Dylan Rhodes is chasing the very people that he hired in the first place, making no attempts to throw off the police force from their trail, but only trying to throw off the viewer of suspecting him. It is a twist done just to be a twist. It is unsuspected not because it was clever, but because it is downright retarded.
I'm not convinced the sins near the start based solely on the ending of the movie were really justified. The entire point of a story's end is to give the audience a conclusion, which more often than not ends up being some sort of plot twist. Especially since Bruce Banner did need to do some of that stuff so that he wouldn't become a suspect and ruin the entire plan (such as running onto the stage when he knew he'd be tackled by 20 people).
+Raloris MMO Well, without those, the video would have been much shorter. As is, the movie comes in at a Sin count of 65, and the video only lasts 9 minutes. Both numbers are VERY low for this channel.
+william kroken no, just no. When talking about 3d or three dimensions the word dimension is just short for spacial dimension. Because of the way time works we call it a 1 dimensional phenomenon, but that has next to nothing to do with the three spacial dimensions.
Of course he was a high ranking cop...he planned this scheme since he was a child, and of course he got assigned to the case...he's a high ranking cop... People these days...(this is sarcasm by the way)
2:11 Dude sorry, but hypnosis is real and medically accepted. Hypnotising is a technic that deals with influencing specific parts of the human brain in favour of what you want, and everyone can be affected by it equally. It is even used to treat many psychological disorders like OCD.
+Manibe Hypnosis in the medical and psychological field is much more like guided meditation and slight suggestion. It's not a magical ability to make people forget entire instances, or completely change their personality to do something ridiculous at a certain word or finger snap. And even then it only works on certain suggestible people.
***** If you think the fact you have to turn your brain off to enjoy a movie doesn't hurt the movie at all then I have to disagree. Also it's not like it's just a minor thing, the entire movie depends on you believing the characters are wizards and it never explains how their powers work. The hypnosis thing is just one of the many things that shatter my suspension of disbelief, the worst one being the ending which is laughable. If they had no idea how to make the movie work without giving the characters superpowers they should've just made a tongue in cheek movie that it's not ashamed of how dumb it is.
***** No need to make ad hominem attacks. Sure, movies need a bit of suspension of disbelief to work. And I personally enjoyed the movie. But it's still also fun to watch a series like "Everything Wrong With..." and see all the places where my suspension of disbelief was really strong. But the OP comment about hypnosis was factually incorrect, and we were just letting them know. Because it is a common misconception. Well, not incorrect completely. Hypnosis IS a method of therapy, but the assumption that it works in the way the movie works is incorrect.
Most of these are based on the assumption that Dylan planned the whole thing and didnt leave some of it to the horsemen. Who are Brilliant magicians in there own right.
It also makes sense for dylan to let himself be fooled by them so that it appears to everyone else (in the fbi etc) that he is fooled by them so pretty much all sins regarding dylan falling for it were more just well planned plot points
I know that this series is less nitpicking and more making fun of nitpickers by taking it to the extreme but in regards to Dylan letting them I the eye even though he planned it and ran the investigation, as well as yelling freeze, I feel I should point out his goal was to test them so he did everything a normal investigator would do rather than someone who knows their whole plan.
First off the guy was not broke at the end. He had 140 million dollars, they only robbed some thousands from him. So he wouldn't become completely broke in the instant, he still had a lot of millions to fall back on.
+TheSelenagomez237373 When Tressler was talking to Bradley in the bar, he said; "I'm a $140 million distraction?" But who's to say Tressler didn't have $140 million in another account? Or 2? Or 3? He could have been a billionaire that was upset about losing that much money and/or being played.
I don't think it was a sin that the cuffs opened. I think the video editing was the sin. In one frame, the cuffs opened, but in the next frame, they were closed and then opened
3:00 It takes about 4 seconds for everyone to pull up their bank account. I was there. All the extras were saying the same thing about how stupid that was.
Just so you know the reason they became a part of the Eye wasn't just because they followed his directions. The mere fact that they pulled that off is a miracle they did everything right and they only had 1 year's time for that. They could have given up some point, they could have given the blueprints to the police when they first found it, they could have not cared when they found the blueprints and just moved on with their lives and they didn't even know who was behind everything, they did everything right, achieved the goal of pretty much all of that. Honestly if that couldn't get them in the eye I don't know what could.
FBI and Interpol walk into a room of a missing safe and don't notice mirrors or reflections or dylan gets teleported in the time it takes thaddeus to come by stairs
They had to say something though, or else it will be an one minute video. That, or they will have to point out to sins that every film makes so it will be entertaining.
I didn't ask for your hate. Can't you watch a movie and enjoy it without picking out all of the flaws? I mean, seriously. Don't rain on my parade simply because I enjoyed the movie and felt I needed to state my opinion. I liked the movie because of the amazing special effects, the characters, and the plot twists. The movie was just all around fun and it doesn't have enough flaws to make it a bad movie. It's a movie. Nobody's perfect, so get over yourself.
Over half of these "sins" had nothing to do with continuity errors or plot holes or anything to actually critique. Most of this was literally just things that happen in movies that you don't like. Way to go.
I honestly loved this movie. It was charming, unique, and the cast was great. Yeah the twist at the end kind of disappointed me, but I still really liked the movie.
rAgeMC I certainly agree that the twist was unexpected and admittedly left me speechless, but the reason it disappointed me was simply because I really liked Dylan's character throughout the film. He was rough around the edges, constantly being outsmarted by the horsemen, and had an increasingly interesting dynamic with the female lead (whose name escapes me at the moment). But revealing that he was the mastermind all along kind of took some of the character away in my personal opinion. Nevertheless, it was still an excellent (and criminally underrated) film; and I eagerly await the sequel. :)
Alma Dre was the Interpol agent, I though the twist was so unexpected that nobody could see it coming, and that was why I liked it so much, I also am excited for the sequel
When she was trapped in the water tank. She was actually struggling to break free because she was actually stuck there for a moment and everyone on set thought it was just really goods acting lol
+TheRealBeatMaster in Django, Leonardo DiCaprio actually cut his hand on broken glass in a scene but kept going. He actually smeared a mixture of fake/real blood on a woman's face and did the whole scene and they kept it because the reactions were better than any acting would've been
Sydney Lawrence I know, and while that must've been a bit disgusting for Kerry Washington, nobody was in any danger. Leo cut himself, but we didn't watch anyone about to die
My only question is: where did they got the money to pay all of their magic show things? Like, the houses, the equipments, jets, security and stuff. When they broke the old man they literally didn’t had any money
People don't seem to understand the point of this movie. Dylan was acting like a cop because he was testing the horsemen. He wanted to see if they were worthy, so he did everything in his power to try and catch them. He wasn't on their side, he was legit trying to stop them from doing what he told them to do.
Yeah, sure. The guy who's spent decades plotting his revenge on Morgan Freeman's character is REALLY trying to catch them. I think YOU missed the point, he's just playing his part to move the plan along. Would someone really chase themselves through New Orleans over several blocks without realizing they're tracking themselves? No, but conveniently he doesn't "discover" this until he leads all the FBI agents to his location (far from the Horsemen). He also chases the guy to the bridge so the car can flip and he can "recover" the plans which move the FBI in the right direction. Everything he does that attempts to foil the plan actually results in helping the plan move forward. Funny part, after defending this issue, I didn't even like this movie that much. Too convoluted.
+Silly Duck Because this guy is an idiot - he gave sin counts because Dylan helped advanced the plan from his end (unbeknownst to everyone) and did things like scream Freeze which caused him to get tackled, or had his phone switched and bugged purposely... someone obviously didn't understand the concept of the film.
+Ash Barker the concept was retarded and the execution and writing followed suit. people who don’t know what the Channel their bitching about is about need to be the ones who understand the concept.
I for sure thought that at the end, when they throw the key into the river and you see all the keys at the bottom, at the last second the audience would see the safe that Lionel "died" in. Maybe he died, maybe he didn't, either way I think the safe would be down there. Assuming that the Siene is the river he did the trick in, they never specified what river (at least I don't think they did). Either way the shot of them panning across the bottom of the river and then just cutting to credits was a total let down. I was like "wow this is a somewhat clever connection" AND THEN THEY DIDNT FREAKING MAKE IT.
Tricomet Oh ok, I didn't catch that :P I wish they would have made it happen in Paris though, it would have been a cool connection. Thanks for the correction!
Tricomet Speaking Of Sequel, At the end they said, "On The Count Of Three Open Your Eyes, 1, 2." I think That Means If There Is A Sequel It Would Open With One Of Them Saying Three, Right?
The funny part is, it has actually been proven every trick in this particular movie can truly be done. Yes most of it is chance, but also the trick with the handcuffs, he did actually control the environment, when someone gets arrested off the street they check pockets, n other stuff, but if you hide Bobby pins (they can’t be detected by metal detectors btw) in your hands, you can manipulate handcuffs and pull off the flip, but it’s still hilarious lmao
This movie was by far a favorite of mine, because the tricks are awesome and some of it isn't actually acting or cgi such as Jack throwing cards at Dylan before the car chase, the storyline is great, and the cast is H O T (dave franco, jesse eisenberg).
Some Sins I disagree with here: Dylan planned for this revenge almost his entire adult life. That the four Horsemen pulled off their plan in a year isn't that hard to believe, knowing that. Then there's the problem of how the tricks are performed: Freeman's character debunks them, but we *never* get confirmation if he's right or not: it's all how he thinks it happens. Then there's the car chase: it didn't really matter if Dylan or any cop followed them, what they needed was witnesses to one Horseman's death and that bridge was packed. Also the vault manufacturer used low grade steel, which they said they didn't, which caused the vault to warp under the water pressure. Had they used the steel they said they used, it wouldn't have warped. It's a good CinemaSins, but not all of the Sins were thought through.
Yeah, let's discuss the movie, because you are movie fan, a fan of a terrible shitty movie that was very poorly made, and now, now you're gonna explain it to us! When I read what you write, I have a bible deja-vu. There's a book, poorly written, full of bullshit, with a lot of assholes, called priest, that interpret it. However, the bottom line is that I hate stupid people and what they say.
bigballsgame No, I'm not a fan of the movie. I wrote that i disagreed with "some" Sins, not all of them. If you're going to make a strawman out of this, be better at it... and if you hate stupid people and what they say, are you always quiet then?
bigballsgame Having plot holes or 'sins' doesnt mean the movie is shitty. Also disagreeing with some of the 'sins' does not automatically makes one a fan of the movie. However clever you imagine yourself to be and stupid you think others are, that was a seriously embarrassing comment.
Here are all the audio outtake clips at the end: 1 (8:21): Dexter, "Smokey and the Bandit" (season 6, episode 3; Showtime, 16th October 2011) 2 (8:34): The Social Network (Columbia Pictures, 2010) 3 (8:39): The Shawshank Redemption (Columbia Pictures, 1994) 4 (9:05): The Avengers (Paramount Pictures, 2012)
I agree with most what he says. This movie was filled with flaws. And the Biggest flaw was the twist, that didn´t make any sense whats so ever. You need to be able to connect the solution to every pre happening scenes, not just come up with a some solution that no one expected, because it doesn´t make any sense.
six672 Give anyone commenting on this video a couple of years, millions of dollars and a studio...I'm pretty sure half of them would have made a better movie.
Cameron Roark do you have any idea how hard it is to actually write a script? How to do story line, and character development simultaneously, while also moving the plot along at a steady enough pace as to keep the audience's interest, but not so fast as to make them feel as though it was...well..."Jumper" is a good example of what happens when it moves too fast. Also, putting In meaningful dialogue, while also developing a climax, and just because every production company needs a love story for some god-forsaken reason, throw in one of those. Then, once you have done that, surviving the first draft re-writes from the studio. Then the on the spot re-writes from the director, and then because of production problems that always happen, the unforseen re-writes. You don't just sit down at a computer and say "I'm gonna write a movie today." and rarely, if ever, is it the same movie on screen that was originally written.
I think Dylan was actually trying to catch them. He was never letting them get away. He wanted to see if they could pull it off, If they could then they could join The Eye, if they couldn't then they'd get caught and never learn that it was Dylan who had given them the invite to The Eye.
So they break in to the warehouse to set up a huge mirror, that would obviously take a long time to set up, just to make it seem like the safe is gone for when the cops get there, even though the cops could notice the mirror just by walking a little further, then when the cops leave, they'll sneak back into the warehouse to get the safe. What was stopping them from just taking the money in the first place, so the warehouse actually would be empty by the time the cops get there? That would've been a lot simpler and faster then setting up the mirror
They probably needed time to crack open the safe and take the money out, not to mention the work it'll take to transfer out using multiple vehicles until they can stuff it into Thaddeus Bradley's (Morgan Freeman) car to frame him at the end. But then again, it would seem like even more work to get an exact replica of the safe and stuff it with balloons. I don't know LOL
They needed the police to follow the truck with the fake safe in it. Why? First, because they needed the distraction, otherwise the police would go straight to the show instead of finding balloons at the moment the show was starting. And second but not least, because Thaddeus Bradley would be there acting like a know-it-all and Dylan could make himself look "clueless" in front of him, after all, it was all for Bradley.
More popular = more money = more effort can go into vids cos they are paying the bills. Not more critical, just more time to be critical. I don't think movies are getting better or worse (you could argue less original but only cos any new movie will inevitably be compared to others even if they only share one similarity e.g. shark tale and finding nemo - these were compared cos they were aninated movies about fish. That was all they really shared in common.
Most of these "things wrong" with this movie are things that can be argued from both sides. On the other hand, most of them aren't true. Any person can see that these opinions about the movie was wrong. Each of these situations has a background story to it. So in that case, all of these can be argued as false. (Some of these however do give good points)
Except the whole point of movies like this is to appear clever. If they stop being clever after you think about it, the movie was never good in the first place.
+Vontos' Magic Murder Bag the whole premise of the movie is pretty stupid when you think about it. This guy spent all this time planning revenge against the people who got his dad killed but if you really think about it it's pretty stupid. His dad got ridiculed because of how so,eons exposed his trick but what does it matter if you know how a trick works it's still cool. Second he died because he tried to do an escape from the safe but it warped and he drowned how is that a flaw that means the safe kept everything locked down and he never tested that trick or anything? Then the insurance company refused to pay because they couldn't get his body but what kind of life insurance policy covers drowning or suffocation because you locked yourself in a safe underwater? Not to mention his dad became an alcoholic, they could make a case it was insurance fraud. Next why did he have to frame Morgan freeman, a cop trying to do his job, by stuffing the money in his car he is not the hero
+brownwindedangel I agree Also the point of films where their is a big twist at the end is that when you rematch you see there are loads of little clues you missed, otherwise you can just declare that some character is secretly the villain or the hero or a figment of someone's imagination without any buildup, it's pointless.
akatsuki-espada10 I thought it was because she was pregnant ... I'm actually almost sure she didn't go into the second movie because she was pregnant. Almost though, not completely sure
Oh okay. I read an article that said she quit because she almost died. I guess I should've looked more into it. Thanks for letting me know the truth :)
She refused to be in the second movie because she was pregnant guys. She's gonna come back for the third one and I can't wait! I know the 2nd one is shit but I'm still looking for it anyway :)
About the safe that Dylan's father dead in,I have a theory for "where the manufacturer done wrong." My theory is,that the safe he used was meant to be a "special ordered safe for magic trick purpose"(which,as my guessing,may have some trapdoor or mechanism installed). Yet,as the manufacturer used some steel that isn't reach the standard(or just mess up with the orders,and send the magician a "normal" safe), so the mechanism failed,and make the magician dead inside.
angelswave88 how can you say this movie was baad and who dont like amazing magics?? if this were to be performed in reality, who would not watch except those who cant afford for the ticket>..??
The comments on this video are so divided. When I first saw this movie I fell in love with it and I was honestly kind of annoyed because I felt like it was probably not a very good movie lol. I've just always been very very interested in scams, magic, con artists, and casinos, so it makes sense. I will always hate how much they played up Dylan being the antagonist when he was actually the fifth horseman. Watching the movie I never thought it would be him just because that would be too easy, but they did it regardless. After watching the second one, I hate to say it but I really think that they are going to make it so that Dylan's father never died. I know it is way too obvious and easy but they really set up for it, not only is it very likely that they are going to make a third installment of this, but there is an "overlord" character of the eye who has not yet been identified, and they mention several times that Lionel Shrike's body and the safe were never found or recovered. I want other people's responses and fan theories!!
Don't forget the 'I always have an Ace on my sleeve' thing he said in the second movie. +the fact that he himself could easily have escaped the same way his son did.
Dobbys Boggart The fight scene with Dylan and Jack was pretty awesome. Favorite scene, especially when Jack starts throwing flash paper and cards at Dylan
Possible to do YES possible to do when less then 24 hours prior you couldnt even get a card to fly 5 feet? NOPE. It would take YEARS of flinging cards to master how to make a card bounce off the ground and back up to go into a coat. Not to mention the added weight would make it more difficult for a novice to try as it would throw off the mastery. So yes you are right Jackson Duong the tricks are possible but improbable for McKinnley from how he is shown at the beginning almost like he has never touched a deck of cards.
You forgot to mention that Interpol doesn't actually have agents. But hands down, I don't care what people think about this movie, it was fucking fun to watch it.
You criticize Tressler for having so much money in a single bank account and not diversifying it, then you go to wondering how he still has money as if his single bank account was the only place he kept his money. DING!
This was the dumbest movie I've ever seen in my life. The amount of things left to chance is unbelievable, it made no sense and the plot twist was stupid. Basically the one character that seemed like they would help make sense of the impossible things happening in the movie ends up being the chief bullshiter. Also how annoy are those dumb magician characters?
@@IamAeroDynamic It is because 99% of people are stupid in the world with low IQ. Everybody is given the chance to live and copulate and populate because of advancement of medical science and law/order. In a primitive world, these people would have been dead (war fodder) earlier because of their low IQs.
The only defense I can give for the FBI figuring out the Horsemen robbed Tressler so fast is they can probably access that information whenever they want. Citation: I was contacted by the FBI about a case and they knew my name, address, number (obviously), birthday, and Social Security Number all without me giving them any sort of "permission" to research me.
Oddly enough, the part where she grabs the guy to get his measurements is unrealistic but not for why you would think. It is wrong because it is unnecessary. When I joined the military they had this guy who worked in clothing issue whose job was to give you the right size service uniforms. He could tell your measurements down to the nearest half inch just by looking at you. We all lined up and he walked down the line and told us our numbers then we would grab from the box that matched. He was right 95% of the time. Most amazing thing I saw while there.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
+Xzerkces that may be true, but how long did it take to get that good, the movie says they had a year to to the whole thing, which leaves only several months for her to have been able to do that, which I really can't see happening
Partariothegoth
I don't know how long it would take, probably about as long as it would take to learn how to size someone up by putting hands on them.
+Partariothegoth We learned that the plan had been motion for a year, not that this is when they started honing their skills.Either way I'm pretty sure that most of the things they could do were things they were capable of beforehand.
I guess, haven't seen the movie in awhile, so I guess I was filling in parts I forgot or something. I still like the movie regardless though.
The biggest sin is that the sequel isn't called "Now You Don't"
(*drops mic*) walks out of the room to a slow clap from audience
i love this wow, it't sooo true
loll so true af XD
I wish but they couldn't do it for marketing reasons
But with the second one being called "The Second Act" you know that they will at least make a third one called "The Finale" or "The Final Act" or something. I've always said the same thing but after seeing the second movie you can tell there will be another one.
The only part that killed it for me is the hypnotizing bullshit...the guy literally has comic book level super powers...how is he not not ruling the freaking world instead of being a struggling street magician?!
agree with both of you,the way they show how hypnosis works in the movie really grinds my gear...
I saw this performed live on television once. It's actually possible.
Péter Barát it's a movie u do know it's fake right you don't have to go all technical bullshit on us
Psychic Pirate yer but like I Just told another guy it may be real but you don't have to go all technical bullshit on us some of us don't actually give a shit
+Psychic Pirate Nice explanation, man
i love this movie and honestly, no amount of sins and logic can change my mind
Honestly tho most of the sins aren't even sinworthy, this guy just judges things without trying to understand it first
I agree
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaameeeeeeee
Same
I couldn’t agree with u guys more
I think the reason behind them saying "For our final act!" at the beginning of their show, is because they meant their final act in Las Vegas. I got the impression that they'd been performing there for like a week or something and this was their final show before they moved on.
I don’t mind all the “wrongs” in this movie.
I enjoyed it. And that’s exactly how I want it to be served.
Exactly. People are saying it was cliche and all, but honestly, I thought it was extremely original. The only "cliche" part is that the good guys won.
Craft Haven 💯💯💯
I could not have said it better myself
@@KoolMonkE the bad guys won not the good guys
Same.
No sin for everybody having the exact same bank app?
Zombycow even watched the movie?
@@HAL-vm3wn care to enlighten ?
@@vivekpanchpal6987 of im not mistaken the audience in that show is picked by the horsemen thats why they have the exact same bank app (im not really sure though)
purple heartue they probably all had tressler’s bank cause they were insured by him
the horsemen picked katrina victims that were screwed over by tressler meaning they would have his bank along with his insurance idk
The movie may be very stupid, and have many holes, but it sure is fun
I feel very strongly that this movie was okay.
Stephanie C. Joins the I really liked this movie cliche
many holes..
yep, just a stupid fun comedy
yeah both movies are very, very average but they’re certainly dumb fun
On the "how do they deserve to get into the Eye" point - it was explicitly mentioned earlier in the film that initiates would have to take a leap of faith and follow instructions without knowing the concluding point. Additionally, their instructions involved things that only their own high-caliber, mildly (or not so mildly) fictional skills would let them pull off.
yeah i'm surprised Cinemasins, missed that
he didn't, he is trying to be persuasive to make the people believe that what he is saying is right by only showing the parts of info he wants. Its like forcing a card on an audience in at a magic show
ItsFawesomeness what a shame
Or or or he has to watch these movies , write jokes for them plus record and edit these videos at least twice a week. He doesn't have time to double fact check each and every joke.
No more annoyingly long names well i guess the title needs to change then. Something along the lines of: Some of the things wrong with *insert movie title*?
Yeah that's not a good excuse/reason. IF you're trying to make money from pointing out the flaws in someone else's work (whether in humour or not), you really should be making sure you don't make mistakes.
see it may be a dumb movie...but damn is it entertaining
yea lol exactly. i found myself 1 hour into it even though i know this stuff is dumb asf.
Honestly if this type of thing were in Star Wars, Game of Thrones, or ANY anime it would be considered genius
Neogio well, I don't personally find it entertaining because the film wants you to empathise with the horsemen, but they're all aresholes.
And dang is the cast H O T (dave franco, jesse eisenberg)
That’s y I don’t like it bruv just too many flaws in it and where’s the actual story
I only saw it once at a friends bday party and on the inside I was like “ this movie is dumb “
And if your wondering yes this came up in my recommended and I have nothing else to do
I don't know why, but when I see you guys make a video about a movie I love but everyone hates, it just makes me love it more
Amen to that lol
agreed.
so true
Just trying to provide an answer, it's a psychological defense. No one wants to be wrong, so when someone critiques something a person likes, instead of generating a discussion, it might just make the person dig their feet in more to protect their egos and self-worth instead of re-evaluating something and admitting that they are possibly wrong about something.
EverythingFan02 That's deep... I'm questioning my life choices
"The Magicians blame the robbery on the Black guy"
😂😂😂😂
I'm sorry that killed me
yeah. its not like he was chosen for some propper reason and cinemasins gave it a sin for no good reason
@@bananaman3902 true
I love CinemaSins in general, but I completely disagree with this video. Dylan DIDN'T plan all of the tricks out, he DIDN'T know what was going to happen, so half of these "sins" are wrong. The Four Horsemen never knew who their contact was (i.e didn't know it was Dylan) and had to plan everything themselves. Dylan had nothing to do with it as it was his test of them, to see if they could do it alone. That's why he reacted to every little trick the way he did, because he had no idea it was going to happen in the first place. He didn't know how they would do it, he just wanted to see if they could.
I know right! Exactly....
you keep saying if they could do "it", test them to see if they can do "it" and they did "it" all on their own. what the hell is "it"? avenging his daddy's death? also, at the beginning of the movie there's a whole shitload of 3D hologram blueprints that looked pretty detailed, almost like there were a plan/instructions. AND they specifically say towards the end "our instructions end" therefore they had instructions to begin with. love the movie, but it's all effects and cast, no real plot, though i prefer this original idea over another reboot/sequel/adaptation.
"It" was the robbery of Michael Caine's character, the making evident of the safe company's fraudulency and the heist at the end (can't remember them in good detail). And you say that Dylan gave them the big plan at the beginning along with instructions... I can sit you down, give you a box of Lego's and give you instructions to build a little house. You can build that house any way you like, so long as you get it done. Dylan (then a mystery man) told them this is what they had to do with the blueprints. After that, they could complete their goals any way they saw fit I think.
so yeah, revenge for daddy. and what im understanding from you is, youre saying dylan gave them instructions on how to do these things, but they actually "created" their own instructions to a ridiculously complex plan to begin with, and followed them so that dylan doesnt catch them? when you have instructions you either follow them (meaning dylan should know their steps) or you go about it in your own way (which i dont see how is possible with a plan that was so detailed and difficult from the get-go). those 3d blueprints didnt say "rob this dude, rob another dude, frame a third dude", they obviously contained a very detailed plan which they executed as instructed. obviously this is just my opinion
No, not really? The 3D blueprints DIDN'T contain " a very detailed plan" they contained objectives to achieve however they saw fit. Why let them into the Eye if they weren't tested at all?
6:55 No, it's Morgan Freeman's entire job in LIFE to explain shit to the audience.
Mart Leuvering yeah and he good at it
That's how he gets his freckles! :)
Am I the only one who loved this movie?
No. No you're not! Charles Dang I loved this movie too!
Charles Dang Count me !!!Idk about sins but this movie was ENTERTAINING !!!
Charles Dang I like this movie. O.O
Anaha Herondale ermeghard a Herondale
Charles Dang By the Angel a TMI fan ! xD
7:37 Dylan's father only tried to perform that trick because he thought he knew what the safe was made of and how it worked. But because the safe manufacturers cut corners with the materials they used to make the safe (which is illegal), the metal didn't react to water pressure the way it should have and Dylan's father was trapped inside. Plus, given that he was a famous magician and he was basically challenging the manufacturers' product quality with that trick, they would have known about the trick and should have been held accountable for, at the very least, not warning the guy that of the risk in using a possibly already defective safe in his trick
If he knew the trick was dangerous why not test the safe at depth first before climbing in for himself.Any decent competent magician always have test runs through new tricks to make sure they are safe. The guy was an idiot for not testing everything rigorously first. He only had himself to blame.
The water pressure warped the metal of the safe and trapped him inside. How would testing it at a SAFE DEPTH have helped him predict how metal would react at a deeper depth (and therefore under stronger water pressure)?
I said "test the safe at depth" Not "test at a safe depth". I would have sent the safe down to the depth I would be performing the most dangerous stunt of my career at empty. Then I would have hauled it back up. Next I would have noticed the warped metal and said something like "Holy shit! if I'd have gone down in that thing I'd be dead right now, good job I'm not completely incompetent.
Ah, my mistake. I read that "at safe depth". My guess is that he was probably relying on experience and expertise to know the trick would work, but neither of those things could account for crooked safe manufacturors. The dangerous part of the trick was whether he'd be able to make his way out and swim to the surface. Given that he was acting under the assumption that the information he had about the safe and its materials was accurate, maybe he just didn't have any reason to think the safe could malfunction. It's not like he had any way to know about the manufacturers' illegal dealings. And he was an experienced magician, not a novice, so it's not like he would be the type to miscalculate that stuff. *shrug*
@@petercollins5014 Dylan was a dick
Just watched Now You See Me 2.. and ohhhh boy, are these guys gonna have fun with that one
That movie was just as convoluted and stupid as this one, my God was it a bad movie for such great actors
I Agree. The best part in my opinion was when Shrike says "Still the same man a year ago" and break free of the chain. That was badass :DDD
If you don't like it, don't watch it.
no its a good movie
How do you know you don't like it until you've seen it?
Who said that's his only bank account?
Eduardo Chavez Make it rain bitch
Eduardo Chavez exactly what i was thinking
Eduardo Chavez: Right!
Nobody? He said he has all that money in one bank account not ALL the money he has in one
Louis Stephen , but he thought he's broke and has no money and can't pay for guards and said how can he double the payment to Morgan freeman.
Shouldn't the sequel be called "Now You Don't"?
I think you just won life! I need that now!
It would imply it's a different franchise. Ask people not to watch it. It's a terrible idea marketing-wise
+IceFire1800 The next movie is a sequel. When you say "Now You See Me" you normally either think or say "Now You Don't". I think it makes perfect sense.
The second and fifth The Fast and the furious film were named Too Fast Too Furious and Fast Five. That wasn't a problem at all. Calling it Now You Don't could actually be good marketing wise because it's intuitive. The only problem is it would make a third film almost impossible to happen.
I've been saying this for years!! The only thing is that now there is definitely going to be a third one called "the final act" or something like that. Especially after watching the second movie, they will definitely make a third
CinemaSins = The best way to wacth movies you dont want to waste time watching for real :)
Shh, don't tell them my secret
Michael Nielsen wow, I do the exact opposite! I don’t watch the video if I haven’t seen the movie yet.
They never even show the whole movie though, so that's the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
nice spelling dude and no. He makes the most stupid points.
NYSM is not one of those movies
Yeah, I know it's all bullshit. But it's a FANTASTIC movie.
grandpagohan1 No. No it is not.
That-Guy-There it is
That-Guy-There But it is. And nothing you say can convince me otherwise. So deal with it.
***** Because I enjoyed it. If you didn't, that's on you. My enjoyment of something does not affect how you feel about it and vice versa.
+grandpagohan1 It was fun to watch for many people. But it was incredibly fucking shit, it's just like bieber. Popular. But shit.
It's one of those smart movies that are actually kinda dumb, yet still pretty cool and enjoyable if one can restrain themselves from... thinking... for a couple of hours.
kinda dumb, this review is "kinda dumb" at 3:02 he adds another sin for them doing what he wanted them to do.
I think he sinned it because it was a while after he had said this that it happened
just saying, i would hate being in a theater with this dude. he would talk so much.
Jamdog244 he sinned it because the original part was dumb and could've been taken out because why wouldn't you check your phone. Also he rewatches them on his computer to nitpick. In which he clearly states in dozens of videos. He knows he's a dick to movies.
669th like.
the romance between the detective and french woman was what bothered me the most tbh. It was so random and completely out of the blue with NOTHING leading up to it. made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Yeah, I thought the directors were going for something like in Men In Black 1 where the vet lady and J were still friends because they knew their priorities...that was hoped to be quite refreshing. Her likeable wit and attitude that would no way let her give in that easily...I WANTED TO BE HER BUDDY, DAMMIT. (._.)"
that's actually a very low number of sins.
because while riddled with plot holes and an actual weak premise, this movie was actually entretaining and well acted, so ergo is not that bad, that or is so under the radar the cinema sins guy doesn't think is worth much time and detail, take your pick.
@@omarreyes7626 what plotholes?
Have to admit I liked this film, maybe more than it deserved. It takes quite a suspension of disbelief, but I still think it works. It helps that I love Jesse Eisenberg. I'd watch him in anything. Woody Harrelson, Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Melanie Laurent, Mark Ruffalo... also very watchable. And I liked the twist. But yeah, I really am pretty good at suspending disbelief :P
+Buffoon1980 I love this movie! Magic shows (like most Hollywood films) are best enjoyed when you just sit back and stop over-analysing everything
+Buffoon1980 i love how cinema sins have sins, when you think of it there is no way he have 144 m dollars in 1 account which freakin means he got wayy more money than what they can track, i mean there really is an "untraceable money" if you really count that cinema sins are only making sins up cause they just need some
by the way BECAUSE HE is the perpetrator of it all and that he IS a magician doesn't that mean HE have to ACT like real cop and by saying freeze despite knowing he'll be tackled by 20 ppl is to make MORE sense
AND EVERYTHING IS A SET UP FOR da desirable PLOT TWISTT
+Buffoon1980 Actually, it doesn't work. The premise of the movie is to hold its viewer on par with a viewer of a trick of an illusionist. While a real trick of an illusionist, the reveal ends with logical conclusions to how the trick was actually done, while this movie's reveal leads to illogical, nonsensical and downright mindnumbingly retarded explanations. The twists are also just there as a mean, "Oh, you didn't expect this". While a clever thought out movie would mislead through in hindsight plausible, but unsuspected twists. This makes twists, only to throw off its audience, that are only mislead, due to the story being told, leading up to the twist. In essence twists that are just done to be twists, but defies everything that lead to it, making those parts working against the movie itself. In short it is only a twist because it betrays itself. This movie is an intellectual insult, while trying to sell it to the viewer as clever.
The retardation is at its finest, when Freeman sees jailtime, because people they were chasing for a heist, and an account hacking job, literally filled his car with money. Suspension of disbelief, sure, but not for the right reasons.
Exactly. There's the suspension of disbelief that a pilot from Earth can get a magic space ring that grants him the power to wield willpower like a superpower, the suspension of disbelief that a human can be born with the power to manipulate flame because of an odd gene he was born with that manifests as a teenager, the suspension of disbelief that one man can have a long and successful career as a weak alcohol drinking womanizing spy, and then there's the suspension of disbelief that a man can distort reality because 'magic'.
What's the difference between these? All of my previous examples were from movie series that had elements of the fantastic or the bizarre that makes their characters and abilities fit into their cinematic universe except the last one. You cannot have a world where everything is like the 'real world' except for this one element unless you work really hard to explain and showcase that one said element, which this movie did not. I can believe that every one of this man's abilities are possible, but not in the cinematic world he is supposed to live in.
(Of course, I disagree with some of the terminology used in the argument above, but it doesn't make it any less valid.)
Professor Persona I think you are on the right track, but you misrepresent some of the argument.
When it comes to a movie that has supernatural phenomenon as a premise you buy this premise. And do not need further explanation other than well... powers/magic.
This movie, however, tries to explain logical and reasoning behind the tricks just like an illusionist would, if he indeed told his secrets of misdirection, deception etc. The problem here though are that the explanations are so mindnumbingly retarded, unplausible and illogical, that it would have been better to just leave them as first category; just because you can do anything. They are an afterthought, and ultimately a intellectual insult to the viewer, while trying to act clever. It is not. It is an insult to the viewer that Dylan Rhodes is chasing the very people that he hired in the first place, making no attempts to throw off the police force from their trail, but only trying to throw off the viewer of suspecting him. It is a twist done just to be a twist. It is unsuspected not because it was clever, but because it is downright retarded.
I'm not convinced the sins near the start based solely on the ending of the movie were really justified. The entire point of a story's end is to give the audience a conclusion, which more often than not ends up being some sort of plot twist. Especially since Bruce Banner did need to do some of that stuff so that he wouldn't become a suspect and ruin the entire plan (such as running onto the stage when he knew he'd be tackled by 20 people).
I like how you called him Bruce Banner
Like for real😂
+phrophetsamstuff Bruce Banner, DING
+Raloris MMO Well, without those, the video would have been much shorter. As is, the movie comes in at a Sin count of 65, and the video only lasts 9 minutes. Both numbers are VERY low for this channel.
Leedark3 So? They don't really need to make all videos a certain length, they never have.
To do this in real life? Easy.
Unlock fourth dimension.
Boom.
I like you. But that would fuck everything up. so No.
Natasha Robine LOL tru
the fourth dimension is time so i dont get you
+william kroken no, just no. When talking about 3d or three dimensions the word dimension is just short for spacial dimension. Because of the way time works we call it a 1 dimensional phenomenon, but that has next to nothing to do with the three spacial dimensions.
Six years late would like to point out that in an earlier shot we see Atlas casually open his cuffs in preparation for getting Dylan cuffed.
JUST REMEMBER!
EVERYTIME MORGAN FREEMAN EXPLAINS THINGS.
He gets a freckle.
South park lol
Princess kenny :D
It doesn't bother anyone else that the plot twist relied on the guy not only being a high ranking cop but also being assigned to the case.
Of course he was a high ranking cop...he planned this scheme since he was a child, and of course he got assigned to the case...he's a high ranking cop...
People these days...(this is sarcasm by the way)
2:11 Dude sorry, but hypnosis is real and medically accepted. Hypnotising is a technic that deals with influencing specific parts of the human brain in favour of what you want, and everyone can be affected by it equally. It is even used to treat many psychological disorders like OCD.
+Manibe Yeah but it does not work like in the movie at all
+Manibe Hypnosis in the medical and psychological field is much more like guided meditation and slight suggestion. It's not a magical ability to make people forget entire instances, or completely change their personality to do something ridiculous at a certain word or finger snap. And even then it only works on certain suggestible people.
*****
If you think the fact you have to turn your brain off to enjoy a movie doesn't hurt the movie at all then I have to disagree. Also it's not like it's just a minor thing, the entire movie depends on you believing the characters are wizards and it never explains how their powers work. The hypnosis thing is just one of the many things that shatter my suspension of disbelief, the worst one being the ending which is laughable. If they had no idea how to make the movie work without giving the characters superpowers they should've just made a tongue in cheek movie that it's not ashamed of how dumb it is.
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***** No need to make ad hominem attacks. Sure, movies need a bit of suspension of disbelief to work. And I personally enjoyed the movie. But it's still also fun to watch a series like "Everything Wrong With..." and see all the places where my suspension of disbelief was really strong. But the OP comment about hypnosis was factually incorrect, and we were just letting them know. Because it is a common misconception.
Well, not incorrect completely. Hypnosis IS a method of therapy, but the assumption that it works in the way the movie works is incorrect.
Most of these are based on the assumption that Dylan planned the whole thing and didnt leave some of it to the horsemen. Who are Brilliant magicians in there own right.
It also makes sense for dylan to let himself be fooled by them so that it appears to everyone else (in the fbi etc) that he is fooled by them so pretty much all sins regarding dylan falling for it were more just well planned plot points
You know, if she ask to do 52 tricks on her you can always say "No." And then reply "I can do 69 tricks."
+elock1277 2tricky4me ( ͡͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡ °)
+elock1277 Ooh, snap!
Seriously, this entire movie was one big plot hole. There was more hole than plot.
I know that this series is less nitpicking and more making fun of nitpickers by taking it to the extreme but in regards to Dylan letting them I the eye even though he planned it and ran the investigation, as well as yelling freeze, I feel I should point out his goal was to test them so he did everything a normal investigator would do rather than someone who knows their whole plan.
thaaaank you
somebody understands the movie correctly
+Jaiden Andrews 😂 was about to say the same thing
+Jaiden Andrews
I don't think the movie made enough sense for it to be awarded the title of being "understood"
it makes sense you are just to stupid to understand it
3:03 why did they get a sin for doing something you said they should lol
It’s cinema sims
I just assumed that the cards were magnetic
First off the guy was not broke at the end. He had 140 million dollars, they only robbed some thousands from him. So he wouldn't become completely broke in the instant, he still had a lot of millions to fall back on.
***** i doubt they took it all tbh, idk though
+TheSelenagomez237373 When Tressler was talking to Bradley in the bar, he said; "I'm a $140 million distraction?" But who's to say Tressler didn't have $140 million in another account? Or 2? Or 3? He could have been a billionaire that was upset about losing that much money and/or being played.
yes, plus you dont usually own a private jet with 140 mil that would be about half of your net worth wasted on a plane
"Morgan Freeman as the guy who bring phones to sites not allowed to" LMAO
What other movie is that a reference to?
@@Jabberwockybird the dark knight
Usually like these but cmon the “freeze” part is funny in the movie
That tackle looked so real that it hurts
plus it helped to give Dylan credibility
Why is he counting it as a sin that the cuffs opened? It's supposed to be a trick. Not actual magic
They're made up internet points that don't do anything. Take a chill pill, my God.
I don't think it was a sin that the cuffs opened. I think the video editing was the sin. In one frame, the cuffs opened, but in the next frame, they were closed and then opened
@@HeelBJC you phrased that like jason was ranting, but he just misunderstood the sin, my god
@@sydssolanumsamsys Imagine replying to a 10 month old comment. Yikes.
@@HeelBJC imagine giving a shit about that
I literally never understood the 4 Horsemen logo until I watched this video, wow. It's a 4 and an H, how did I not catch that in the movie?
Oh wow, I just noticed that too
+LNxTCB holy crap i never noticed until now
I still don't see it. Can you explain it?
Ana Khan it's a 4 and an H
+LNxTCB
FULL MOVIE plus.google.com/u/0/+ApriadiMovies177HdMoviesLeadsNow
I don't hate this movie because it's dumb. I hate it because it tries to look really smart.
Exactly, I couldn't have said it any better.
God, Bruce banner, lex Luther, Alfred, and Lucius fox! Holy super-actors batman!
Holy bathole assman
@First name Last name Carnage
@@Galeriarch take your pick. either way, it's correct..
Carnage
3:00 It takes about 4 seconds for everyone to pull up their bank account. I was there. All the extras were saying the same thing about how stupid that was.
You guys ruined movies for me. Instead of enjoying them I scan them for sins, constantly.
Me too!
Hahaha
I also scan movies for sins, but i enjoy them still. One thing doesn't need to be the opposite of the other
+Joe Corlett Lol, i did that today
Thats your fault for watchong the videos.
You cant blame the baker because you eat too many pies.
Just so you know the reason they became a part of the Eye wasn't just because they followed his directions. The mere fact that they pulled that off is a miracle they did everything right and they only had 1 year's time for that. They could have given up some point, they could have given the blueprints to the police when they first found it, they could have not cared when they found the blueprints and just moved on with their lives and they didn't even know who was behind everything, they did everything right, achieved the goal of pretty much all of that. Honestly if that couldn't get them in the eye I don't know what could.
Yezz theWizard you take this video way too seriously.
The video is framed seriously.
I’ll get them in the eye, 🌬🍆 gnome sayin?!?
Exactly. Even the director deserves to be in the Eye for plot convenience!
the movie aint this shity as it sound tho
Scraped Society joins the I don't understand cinema sins cliche
Scraped Society it actually is
It is
FBI and Interpol walk into a room of a missing safe and don't notice mirrors or reflections or dylan gets teleported in the time it takes thaddeus to come by stairs
I know! I like this movie!
Only 8 minutes? I was thinking something about the whole movie length.
You have to admit though, most of those weren't even sins, and this movie was absolutely fabulous. Hands down.
wow melia
What? The movie is awesome.
They had to say something though, or else it will be an one minute video. That, or they will have to point out to sins that every film makes so it will be entertaining.
One of my favorite movies!
I didn't ask for your hate. Can't you watch a movie and enjoy it without picking out all of the flaws? I mean, seriously. Don't rain on my parade simply because I enjoyed the movie and felt I needed to state my opinion. I liked the movie because of the amazing special effects, the characters, and the plot twists. The movie was just all around fun and it doesn't have enough flaws to make it a bad movie. It's a movie. Nobody's perfect, so get over yourself.
Those jump cuts at the beginning are so badly edited it hurt.
I counted 4 cuts between shuffle sequences... He does an entire customized sybil cut sequence...
Over half of these "sins" had nothing to do with continuity errors or plot holes or anything to actually critique. Most of this was literally just things that happen in movies that you don't like. Way to go.
the Social Network, Shawshank Redemption and the Avengers reference killed me
what Avengers reference?
+1F Y0U C4N R34D 7H1S Y0U'R3 C00L
that's my secret Cap .... I'm always angry ( the last part)
ahhhh okay thanks :)
The Dexter reference was better.
I honestly loved this movie. It was charming, unique, and the cast was great. Yeah the twist at the end kind of disappointed me, but I still really liked the movie.
I was a fan of the twist, and watching the film a second time round made me see things in a different light
rAgeMC I certainly agree that the twist was unexpected and admittedly left me speechless, but the reason it disappointed me was simply because I really liked Dylan's character throughout the film. He was rough around the edges, constantly being outsmarted by the horsemen, and had an increasingly interesting dynamic with the female lead (whose name escapes me at the moment). But revealing that he was the mastermind all along kind of took some of the character away in my personal opinion. Nevertheless, it was still an excellent (and criminally underrated) film; and I eagerly await the sequel. :)
Alma Dre was the Interpol agent, I though the twist was so unexpected that nobody could see it coming, and that was why I liked it so much, I also am excited for the sequel
+rAgeMC yall should all watch the sequel. it was amazing!
Yes mate
When she was trapped in the water tank. She was actually struggling to break free because she was actually stuck there for a moment and everyone on set thought it was just really goods acting lol
That's true
If they used that shot for the final cut, that's a pretty weird move
+TheRealBeatMaster in Django, Leonardo DiCaprio actually cut his hand on broken glass in a scene but kept going. He actually smeared a mixture of fake/real blood on a woman's face and did the whole scene and they kept it because the reactions were better than any acting would've been
Sydney Lawrence I know, and while that must've been a bit disgusting for Kerry Washington, nobody was in any danger. Leo cut himself, but we didn't watch anyone about to die
My only question is: where did they got the money to pay all of their magic show things? Like, the houses, the equipments, jets, security and stuff. When they broke the old man they literally didn’t had any money
The old white guy endorsed them but when they robbed him they had to take over a building cause they didn’t have any monet
They make money from the show dimwat in movies
They rob people that’s why there are cops always trying to get them and they usually don’t pay for anything they do
The ending of this film drives me CRAZY... It's so annoying! "1....2...!!!!" Where's the 3!!! You said open your eyes on 3!!!
They end up saying "3" right when the screen goes black
+Goldberry you should watch through the credits. there's a secret scene
Eline Hov "So this is our new equipment?"
+Darren Fajardo Yup.
So basically I'm blinded forever now?
I thought this was an amazing cinematic experience.
I got a Now You See Me 2 trailer ad, lol
Same lol
me too
Same
i watched the new movie. it was awesome
6 years later and this is still one of my favorites!
People don't seem to understand the point of this movie. Dylan was acting like a cop because he was testing the horsemen. He wanted to see if they were worthy, so he did everything in his power to try and catch them. He wasn't on their side, he was legit trying to stop them from doing what he told them to do.
Yeah, sure. The guy who's spent decades plotting his revenge on Morgan Freeman's character is REALLY trying to catch them. I think YOU missed the point, he's just playing his part to move the plan along. Would someone really chase themselves through New Orleans over several blocks without realizing they're tracking themselves? No, but conveniently he doesn't "discover" this until he leads all the FBI agents to his location (far from the Horsemen).
He also chases the guy to the bridge so the car can flip and he can "recover" the plans which move the FBI in the right direction. Everything he does that attempts to foil the plan actually results in helping the plan move forward.
Funny part, after defending this issue, I didn't even like this movie that much. Too convoluted.
This explanation helps a lot.
Why did you sin them for not checking their bank account on their phones and then pointing out yourself, that they do it right after?
+Silly Duck Because this guy is an idiot - he gave sin counts because Dylan helped advanced the plan from his end (unbeknownst to everyone) and did things like scream Freeze which caused him to get tackled, or had his phone switched and bugged purposely... someone obviously didn't understand the concept of the film.
+Ash Barker the concept was retarded and the execution and writing followed suit.
people who don’t know what the Channel their bitching about is about need to be the ones who understand the concept.
Mckenzie .Latham Your english gave my eyes cancer.
Silly Duck
You should congratulate me, it might save you from having to ever see this movie again.
*****
Well no accounting for good taste...
I for sure thought that at the end, when they throw the key into the river and you see all the keys at the bottom, at the last second the audience would see the safe that Lionel "died" in. Maybe he died, maybe he didn't, either way I think the safe would be down there. Assuming that the Siene is the river he did the trick in, they never specified what river (at least I don't think they did). Either way the shot of them panning across the bottom of the river and then just cutting to credits was a total let down. I was like "wow this is a somewhat clever connection" AND THEN THEY DIDNT FREAKING MAKE IT.
Tricomet Oh ok, I didn't catch that :P I wish they would have made it happen in Paris though, it would have been a cool connection. Thanks for the correction!
Tricomet
Speaking Of Sequel, At the end they said, "On The Count Of Three Open Your Eyes, 1, 2." I think That Means If There Is A Sequel It Would Open With One Of Them Saying Three, Right?
It happened in the Hudson River it says it on the newspaper Alma was reading on the bridge when Dylan started talking to her
The funny part is, it has actually been proven every trick in this particular movie can truly be done. Yes most of it is chance, but also the trick with the handcuffs, he did actually control the environment, when someone gets arrested off the street they check pockets, n other stuff, but if you hide Bobby pins (they can’t be detected by metal detectors btw) in your hands, you can manipulate handcuffs and pull off the flip, but it’s still hilarious lmao
This movie actually managed to break my bullshit-o-meter
I've been avoiding watching this video for so long because this is my favourite movie and I knew I was gonna get mad. I was right
I GOT SO MAD HE WAS SWEARING AT ALL OF IT AND........OH MY GOD I CANT
Jodie Leigh grow up
I liked this film too. I just don't get butthurt when someone has a different opinion than me.
jodie SAME OMFG
This movie was by far a favorite of mine, because the tricks are awesome and some of it isn't actually acting or cgi such as Jack throwing cards at Dylan before the car chase, the storyline is great, and the cast is H O T (dave franco, jesse eisenberg).
Some Sins I disagree with here: Dylan planned for this revenge almost his entire adult life. That the four Horsemen pulled off their plan in a year isn't that hard to believe, knowing that. Then there's the problem of how the tricks are performed: Freeman's character debunks them, but we *never* get confirmation if he's right or not: it's all how he thinks it happens.
Then there's the car chase: it didn't really matter if Dylan or any cop followed them, what they needed was witnesses to one Horseman's death and that bridge was packed. Also the vault manufacturer used low grade steel, which they said they didn't, which caused the vault to warp under the water pressure. Had they used the steel they said they used, it wouldn't have warped.
It's a good CinemaSins, but not all of the Sins were thought through.
Yeah, let's discuss the movie, because you are movie fan, a fan of a terrible shitty movie that was very poorly made, and now, now you're gonna explain it to us! When I read what you write, I have a bible deja-vu. There's a book, poorly written, full of bullshit, with a lot of assholes, called priest, that interpret it. However, the bottom line is that I hate stupid people and what they say.
bigballsgame
No, I'm not a fan of the movie. I wrote that i disagreed with "some" Sins, not all of them. If you're going to make a strawman out of this, be better at it... and if you hate stupid people and what they say, are you always quiet then?
bigballsgame
Shitty movie?
This movie was very good.
bigballsgame
Having plot holes or 'sins' doesnt mean the movie is shitty. Also disagreeing with some of the 'sins' does not automatically makes one a fan of the movie.
However clever you imagine yourself to be and stupid you think others are, that was a seriously embarrassing comment.
Thank you. The are plot holes in this movie, but he pointed out all the wrong ones.
Here are all the audio outtake clips at the end:
1 (8:21): Dexter, "Smokey and the Bandit" (season 6, episode 3; Showtime, 16th October 2011)
2 (8:34): The Social Network (Columbia Pictures, 2010)
3 (8:39): The Shawshank Redemption (Columbia Pictures, 1994)
4 (9:05): The Avengers (Paramount Pictures, 2012)
I wanna see "Everything Wrong with 2012" That video would prolly be like 15 minutes long
You let the movie off too easy.
I agree with most what he says. This movie was filled with flaws. And the Biggest flaw was the twist, that didn´t make any sense whats so ever. You need to be able to connect the solution to every pre happening scenes, not just come up with a some solution that no one expected, because it doesn´t make any sense.
Duh, I know that the story is about revenge, that doesn´t save the plot, it was really badly written anyways.
How many million dollar box office movies have you written again?
wow
six672 Give anyone commenting on this video a couple of years, millions of dollars and a studio...I'm pretty sure half of them would have made a better movie.
Cameron Roark do you have any idea how hard it is to actually write a script? How to do story line, and character development simultaneously, while also moving the plot along at a steady enough pace as to keep the audience's interest, but not so fast as to make them feel as though it was...well..."Jumper" is a good example of what happens when it moves too fast.
Also, putting In meaningful dialogue, while also developing a climax, and just because every production company needs a love story for some god-forsaken reason, throw in one of those.
Then, once you have done that, surviving the first draft re-writes from the studio. Then the on the spot re-writes from the director, and then because of production problems that always happen, the unforseen re-writes.
You don't just sit down at a computer and say "I'm gonna write a movie today." and rarely, if ever, is it the same movie on screen that was originally written.
I think Dylan was actually trying to catch them. He was never letting them get away. He wanted to see if they could pull it off, If they could then they could join The Eye, if they couldn't then they'd get caught and never learn that it was Dylan who had given them the invite to The Eye.
So they break in to the warehouse to set up a huge mirror, that would obviously take a long time to set up, just to make it seem like the safe is gone for when the cops get there, even though the cops could notice the mirror just by walking a little further, then when the cops leave, they'll sneak back into the warehouse to get the safe. What was stopping them from just taking the money in the first place, so the warehouse actually would be empty by the time the cops get there? That would've been a lot simpler and faster then setting up the mirror
They probably needed time to crack open the safe and take the money out, not to mention the work it'll take to transfer out using multiple vehicles until they can stuff it into Thaddeus Bradley's (Morgan Freeman) car to frame him at the end.
But then again, it would seem like even more work to get an exact replica of the safe and stuff it with balloons.
I don't know LOL
***** It couldn't have taken more time than setting up the thing moving the mirror
They needed the police to follow the truck with the fake safe in it. Why?
First, because they needed the distraction, otherwise the police would go straight to the show instead of finding balloons at the moment the show was starting.
And second but not least, because Thaddeus Bradley would be there acting like a know-it-all and Dylan could make himself look "clueless" in front of him, after all, it was all for Bradley.
Valentina Vallejo Da Rosa they still would've been able to use the decoy safe
I would watch the Prestige over this anytime, much better intrigue and plot twist elements in my opinion.
Alfred and lucius fox, batman where the hell are you hiding?
+Mitya Petrov
He became the Hulk
Oh cmon batman. Y u doin dis
THAT TRAITOR
+Mitya Petrov Behind you.
These episodes are getting longer. Are movies getting worse or is he becoming more critical
More popular = more money = more effort can go into vids cos they are paying the bills. Not more critical, just more time to be critical.
I don't think movies are getting better or worse (you could argue less original but only cos any new movie will inevitably be compared to others even if they only share one similarity e.g. shark tale and finding nemo - these were compared cos they were aninated movies about fish. That was all they really shared in common.
Turbo 86 wrong since he only did a certain amount for titanic which is like almost a 3 hour movie.
nah I think ur right honestly you can see it
None, YT got greedy and the channels too
@@kerrinelyse879 seriously gonna compare these 2 movies
Most of these "things wrong" with this movie are things that can be argued from both sides. On the other hand, most of them aren't true. Any person can see that these opinions about the movie was wrong. Each of these situations has a background story to it. So in that case, all of these can be argued as false. (Some of these however do give good points)
Thank you. I guess this video would have been more comedic and rationally observed if I didn't watch the movie. But the movie was a beast of a film.
***** Welcome.Yes, they try to expect realism out of a movie about magicians and that doesn't give it valid reason to be wrong. 😊
So, Dylan's secret is he is always angry XDDD
I liked the movie, sometimes u need to just not think about things and enjoy the movie.
Except the whole point of movies like this is to appear clever. If they stop being clever after you think about it, the movie was never good in the first place.
+Vontos' Magic Murder Bag the whole premise of the movie is pretty stupid when you think about it. This guy spent all this time planning revenge against the people who got his dad killed but if you really think about it it's pretty stupid. His dad got ridiculed because of how so,eons exposed his trick but what does it matter if you know how a trick works it's still cool. Second he died because he tried to do an escape from the safe but it warped and he drowned how is that a flaw that means the safe kept everything locked down and he never tested that trick or anything? Then the insurance company refused to pay because they couldn't get his body but what kind of life insurance policy covers drowning or suffocation because you locked yourself in a safe underwater? Not to mention his dad became an alcoholic, they could make a case it was insurance fraud. Next why did he have to frame Morgan freeman, a cop trying to do his job, by stuffing the money in his car he is not the hero
Jesus Christ, work on your grammar.
+LittleChicken that's your first concern after all this? Seriously thinking you need to chill
+brownwindedangel I agree
Also the point of films where their is a big twist at the end is that when you rematch you see there are loads of little clues you missed, otherwise you can just declare that some character is secretly the villain or the hero or a figment of someone's imagination without any buildup, it's pointless.
The woman in the tank actually almost drowned. Her fear was real
And that's why she refused to be in the second movie and they had to replace here.
akatsuki-espada10 I thought it was because she was pregnant ... I'm actually almost sure she didn't go into the second movie because she was pregnant. Almost though, not completely sure
Yeah, I just looked it up, it's cause she was knocked up not cause she was "scared"
Oh okay. I read an article that said she quit because she almost died. I guess I should've looked more into it. Thanks for letting me know the truth :)
She refused to be in the second movie because she was pregnant guys. She's gonna come back for the third one and I can't wait! I know the 2nd one is shit but I'm still looking for it anyway :)
Loved the video, but I didn't think it would take so long to hear the reference at the very end :)
1:32 if you saw the movie... he already have that deck of cards
Also, if you think about it closely, the ending is disappointing when you realize that they did all this only for a carousel ride.
I wonder if Jeremy knew about the post credit scene
About the safe that Dylan's father dead in,I have a theory for "where the manufacturer done wrong."
My theory is,that the safe he used was meant to be a "special ordered safe for magic trick purpose"(which,as my guessing,may have some trapdoor or mechanism installed).
Yet,as the manufacturer used some steel that isn't reach the standard(or just mess up with the orders,and send the magician a "normal" safe),
so the mechanism failed,and make the magician dead inside.
Makes sense.
And After watched the second movie...it's sence like my theory is half right...in some way,i guess.
I was expecting a hulk joke. Im not disappointed
where was it
Last 20 seconds of the vid
This movie was just BAAAAAAD....
one of the best movie
I strongly disagree
angelswave88
how can you say this movie was baad and who dont like amazing magics?? if this were to be performed in reality, who would not watch except those who cant afford for the ticket>..??
***** purely opposite to you.. the best movie ive seen in the 10 yrs.. the way freeman exposes the magic was awesome and the magics were super...
***** i think i didnt?? did i ??
“The magicians pinned the heist money on the black guy” 🤣🤣🤣👌🏾
Prestige > now you see me
The comments on this video are so divided. When I first saw this movie I fell in love with it and I was honestly kind of annoyed because I felt like it was probably not a very good movie lol. I've just always been very very interested in scams, magic, con artists, and casinos, so it makes sense. I will always hate how much they played up Dylan being the antagonist when he was actually the fifth horseman. Watching the movie I never thought it would be him just because that would be too easy, but they did it regardless. After watching the second one, I hate to say it but I really think that they are going to make it so that Dylan's father never died. I know it is way too obvious and easy but they really set up for it, not only is it very likely that they are going to make a third installment of this, but there is an "overlord" character of the eye who has not yet been identified, and they mention several times that Lionel Shrike's body and the safe were never found or recovered. I want other people's responses and fan theories!!
+Ashley Adams yeah same, like its way too obvious and easy but they keep hinting to it. it would be such an annoying way to end it
+Jaiden Boucher I think you are right in your predictions.
Don't forget the 'I always have an Ace on my sleeve' thing he said in the second movie. +the fact that he himself could easily have escaped the same way his son did.
Oh and there will be a 3rd one (as said by the director) where I assume the father will come back
I Just saw it SPOILER
His father actually died
at 6:27 why would the cops believe that he somehow robbed the safe and completely filled the car with the money so much that he couldn't use the car?
You missed how the paper said he was orphaned by the father dying, but he says his mom didnt get the insurance pay out. So, he wasnt an orphan.
SPOILER ALERT:
In the sequel your sentence actually comes true, congrats!
I saw the movie and noticed that too.
yeah lol haha I watched this after I watched the second one, I just noticed he predicted the future :0
+Mary Levina what sentence?
+Ela Towers "Recreate Lionel Shrike's underwater safe trick" sentence at the 8th minute
Haven't even started watching it and I already know this will be a good one!
I loved this movie. The magic tricks and battles of wits were so slick! I wish the language was cleaner, though.
Dobbys Boggart The fight scene with Dylan and Jack was pretty awesome. Favorite scene, especially when Jack starts throwing flash paper and cards at Dylan
Now do part 2
+Elsa Butler why? A lot of tricks were real.
all the tricks are possible to do, it was said by the director
+Jackson Duong I would believe that
Possible to do YES possible to do when less then 24 hours prior you couldnt even get a card to fly 5 feet? NOPE. It would take YEARS of flinging cards to master how to make a card bounce off the ground and back up to go into a coat. Not to mention the added weight would make it more difficult for a novice to try as it would throw off the mastery. So yes you are right Jackson Duong the tricks are possible but improbable for McKinnley from how he is shown at the beginning almost like he has never touched a deck of cards.
Most of these sins can be answered with 'it's magic, it's never real, even when it's not in a movie' or 'they had a year to plan it out'.
You forgot to mention that Interpol doesn't actually have agents. But hands down, I don't care what people think about this movie, it was fucking fun to watch it.
You criticize Tressler for having so much money in a single bank account and not diversifying it, then you go to wondering how he still has money as if his single bank account was the only place he kept his money. DING!
This was the dumbest movie I've ever seen in my life. The amount of things left to chance is unbelievable, it made no sense and the plot twist was stupid. Basically the one character that seemed like they would help make sense of the impossible things happening in the movie ends up being the chief bullshiter. Also how annoy are those dumb magician characters?
Yep, people parade it as one of the best "mind-boggling" movies out there. It's honestly the most senseless movie i've ever watched
@@IamAeroDynamic It is because 99% of people are stupid in the world with low IQ. Everybody is given the chance to live and copulate and populate because of advancement of medical science and law/order. In a primitive world, these people would have been dead (war fodder) earlier because of their low IQs.
The only defense I can give for the FBI figuring out the Horsemen robbed Tressler so fast is they can probably access that information whenever they want. Citation: I was contacted by the FBI about a case and they knew my name, address, number (obviously), birthday, and Social Security Number all without me giving them any sort of "permission" to research me.