Everything Wrong With Passengers In 16 Minutes Or Less
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2017
- Passengers has a wonderful premise, a f*cked up middle, and a batsh*t insane finale. So, of course it has sins. Duh.
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I think they should have made the movie from Aurora’s perspective. So it starts with her waking up and exploring the ship, finding Jim, falling in love with him and then, when he reveals to her that he woke her up, it is an actual revelation in the plot that NOBODY sees coming.
A dude did that, and it works. See ruclips.net/video/Gksxu-yeWcU/видео.html. Jump to 1:23 to skip the explanation of the film that you already know.
I have also seen that idea (and the video), but I'd take it one step further, and it would fix some things about this movie.
So start with her. Then the betrayal, the crisis, and the flashback. During the flashback, as he's building a relationship with the bartender, the bartender is dropping subtle suggestions that are almost a little too on the nose. Then have it revealed that as the ship's networked systems were being overloaded, they reached out for help and the bartender was charged with fixing the systems. Well, there's not much a bartender can do, but a bartender knows people. So it makes the call to wake a human. Or doesn't have direct access to the staff either, so it searches the crew for an engineer and wakes Jim. However rules of being a bartender, you can't tell people what to do, so all he could do is drop subtle hints. Now Jim is the one betrayed and spirals into depression. Eventually he forgives the bartender so they can have a clear relationship when she wakes up and movie proceeds.
I think that could have affected Chris Prats career
That's actually a way better and complex story then this. Would have been nice to see
Zachary Wilson so true
"Why does Jim have no idea where he is?" Man sometimes I wake up from a nap in my own house and have no idea where I am lmao
it happens to me too. I ask what's going on so that someone else can give tons of exposition to the audience.
Also, ¨Character wakes up disoriented from hibernation¨ cliché. So it's still a sin, just not the one Jeremy pointed out.
And if I remember correctly, the AI even explains to him that he may feel out of it because he just woke up from hibernation.
+subwayvesubscriber "Hum, how do we make sure that people waking up from hibernation know what's going on? I know! let's put a half disembodied head just inches away from their faces! that surely won't freak out a disoriented person! genius!¨. Also, let's not forget, ¨Cryogenic pod malfunctions and wakes up character at an inconvenient time/place¨cliché from ALL THE MOVIES.
Dorian Arbos Calm down, there. I wasn't defending the movie or its logic or any other movie's logic, so there's really no need for the fuss.
When she goes nuts and is about to kill him in the middle of the night with the bat, he just relaxes to let her and then she drops the bat realizing she can't kill the only other person she can interact with for the rest of her life. That scene is pure genius.
crowbar
If it took u that long too realize that then you're just a serial killer. That means: That she didn't take one second to think or give a damn about the consequences
Genius my ass😂 it was freaking stupid
LO. I never forgot this scene. She beat him up like how a EXACTLY like how in every way a man would do to another man. LMAO.
@@secretagent0280 english guy. English.
Shes kind of a psychopath to be honest. I don’t know many women who would behave like that let alone a guy doing that to a woman
Sin 118 - I guess the Homestead company is lucky that out of 5,000 passengers, the one guy that got wokened up early after a series of critical malfunctions is a mechanic....
Jim ex machina
Also aurora ex machina
because the movie has to happen
because of god@@fuzzblightyear145
siin 119, how the hack did wildlife get into the ship?
This is the extreme version of waking up before all of the other people at a sleepover, and not knowing what to do
This comment is underrated
Underrated comment here. The only one that actually made me laugh
LOL... Lil' late but I was ALWAYS that kid.
If this aint tru tho
Factssss
If we found out that he woke her up when she finds out that would have been huge! It would have made that scene freaking iconic.
The only thing though is that the bartender telling her would have no context. She would have to learn from Gus, but I think that dynamic would be interesting as well.
watch deleted scenes: She (& audience!) could have figured it out from clues jim left around!
Agreed.
I think that could have affected Chris Prats career
@@MiguelAngel-vt4ge how?
J Law - "However will we fix this sophisticated interstellar fusion reactor computer?" - Chris Pratt pulls a giant Lego block out of the first drawer he opens "I got this"
You mean Emmett? Lol
Man they really simplified nuclear physics , thermo nuclear dynamics and quantum physics into hot swapping giant floppy disks.
Everything is awesome lmao
@@NoxLegend1 The ship was automated, they only had to fix the computer.
to be fair, the modularized computer parts would make sense (and the readily available replacement parts), since you wouldn't be able to fix a broken complicated computer in a timely manner while in space with limited supplies.
then again, it also means you could have a space maintenance robot that could just find out the problem right a way and swap the computer module, and it just needs to run on it's own computer and talk to the main computer of the spaceship, so it can operate independently even when spaceship's computer manfunctions/offlines.
then again, we wouldn't have this movie if this happened.
oh well.
11:10 The plan wasn't to wake the passengers up a year before the arrival, but a few (I think it was 4) months. Which I think was not only for the enjoyment of the ship, but also for recovering purposes and to prepare the passengers for the new planet (for example instructions for the people who go there to work, like Jim).
@@someguybreaks well maybe the passengers still sleep/live on the ship even when they arrive on the new planet. i don't think some restaurants showers or random houses are already on the new planet lol
@@someguybreaks It is a money-making venture remember. Get them to spend a bunch of money in the 4 months and be in debt to the company but I agree why not drag it out a year
Never understood how the company would profit from that. It would take more than 240 years to get anything back from the planet, at the very least. And there's still the time needed to mine whatever would be of value. Plus the colony could just give the middle finger to the home planet since they are so far away since they are there with all the resources to start a new civilization. Unless Earth would be willing to slag the planet because of the rebellion, which they would be able to do with a relativist kill vehicle since they obviously have the ability to speed up to a fraction of the speed of light and steer towards a certain planet to hit it.
I was saying the same thing. This kind of stuff is why I've stopped watching CinemaSins, so self-absorbed. Anyway they are sort of right since the movie screws up it's explanation by insisting on having Homestead II in the epilogue sequence.
I just had to watch this flick again after so many years. I think the 4 month wait is for deceleration. We just have to imagine the ship has a way to decelerate gently from the “ludicrous “ speed it’s flying. We don’t want folks plastered to the front facing windows, do we?
The best twist would have been if Aurora was a lesbian.
Isomer Mashups actually... That might have been genius.
Then he would throw her back in the pod and pull out another slu
Plottwist, Jim uses the autodoc to go full transgender, because he's thirsty af. And they scissored happily ever after !
Haha, I've said that many times: ok, the world's population dies off except for 1 man and 1 woman....last two people on earth....and he ends up sterile lol......or impotent lol.....
The supreme being has chosen YOU, a good man, and YOU a good woman, to repopulate earth....now, ye go forth and multiply!
Ahem, errr excuse me, ah, I think you made a mistake...
The supreme being does not make mistakes....
Ah, well, hate to say this, but, err, ah.........I'm ....um....ah....sterile!
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Then he wakes up another girl to fuck, but she's also lesbian and fucks Aurora instead.
Plot twist: The ship purposely woke Jim up to fix the ship.
Hugh Vupy exactly.
Hugh Vupy 😂😂
But why Jim and not someone from the crew?
@@hadassawolf2332 he is a mechanic
@@dredre2005 Still a crew member would know the ship better and have a better idea on how to fix it
So we're not gonna talk about how all the people that woke up at the right time had to find two corpses?
Not only the corpses: the smell, the bacteria,.....
Why would anyone need to talk about that?
Why would we? Doesn’t matter
They probably had kids
@@NoxLegend1
They probably wouldn’t want their kids to suffer the same torment.
A more gripping and sympathetic story imo would’ve been someone waking up early and grappling with the decision to wake someone they already loved for company, a spouse/sibling/parent. They don’t want to be alone but they also don’t want to deprive a loved one of a new life. THAT would’ve been super upsetting and ambiguous.
True except that why she woke up early is cringy.
He had a huge crush on her, which is the reason he woke HER up and not some random other person.
So what you describe is basically just what actually happened in the movie.
@@teramalik7260He replayed the same 30 sec clip over again knowing nothing really about her. If she was even slightly less attractive, that would've saved her from being woken up by him.
Would he done the same thing to someone he actually knew and cared like his mom or a brother just so he wouldn't die alone is what they're implying
Imagine if he woke her up and she turned out to be a lesbian lol
Trisha Bharti I think u have forgotten it is a movie ☺
Imagine if she had a dick
Trisha Bharti yeh lol, that was exactly my first thought when i saw this movie.
what a twist!!
Still would have been worth it to have another human being to talk to. Even if he hated that person, he'd be drawn enough to talk and interact just because humans are social creatures
Black Guy still died first....He DIDN'T even get shot
Ye you're right wtf hahahah😂😂😂😂
Bluskys maybe one of his 612 diseases was from a gunshot wound
lol
Bluskys yeah dude they wanted to keep it as accurate as possible. it seems that that's probably the only thing that the movie did right. Now if anyone on the planet Earth is reading this coming to you guys please keep my channel alive out of extermination thank you so much thank you
Kuronetwork lol yeah it's probably programmed in the computer system juice to keep things as accurate and real as possible. now if anyone on the planet Earth is reading these common could you please check out my channel for preservation please keep my channel alive thank you
It would be a perfect sci-fix horror if we start with Aurora’s prospective, fall in love with Jim, but then found out she is not the only one he woke up--Jim was too lonely he woke up few ladies before Aurora, however none of them worked out as he wanted to, so he murdered them, Aurora is already the 5th.....😜
Right out the airlock... Or wake up multiple and have a harem.
Then when she finds out truth, she kills jim then after few months she too becomes lonely and depressed, so she decide to wake up someone else.
There was a movie (sorry but I forget the title) where this mad-scientist-type keeps cloning his dead wife. The first several find out what's happening and try to leave so he kills them. The 4th or 5th wife figures it out and kills him to escape, assuming the identity of his wife and taking over all of their assets.
Yeah...this film could have been improved with a good twist of an ending.
I've seen that movie
@@MarkAhumuza what's the name of the movie?
Personally I would have woke up an engineer to fix the pods after fixing the ship and put myself back into hyper sleep.
all of the engineers are in the crew quarters and sealed away. Plus the pods keep you in stasis, they don't put you under
I think they specifically state that people can only be put under while in a facility outside of the ship. I mean…it’s still idiotic but it IS explained. 🤣
He is an engineer
@@Anubis30224 They have access to the whole ship. The autodoc could be used to put someone in stasis. Pay more attention next time you'll feel the urge to correct someone.
@@lief3414Uh, yeah. The autodoc can be used to put and keep ONE person in stasis. Just ONE!
And even that is only possible to do with the extended access rights of a crew member.
I guess you should pay more attention next time...
What if Jim woke up Aurora but she was gay? *"She's gay Jim"*
I don't think he opened her pod because of sex though. He just needed some kind of companionship.
pyrotechNick --> that was my first thought!!!
Marianne Hord he opened it because of sex.
Marianne Hord Why didn't he wake up a dude then?
He needed companionship, but he also fell in love with Aurora. Also he's a guy, so he wanted sex, but that wasn't the primary motivation.
It's kind of depressing when you think about how one of them probably died of old age before the other one and the other was just alone for a few months or years until they too died of old age
Not really. Jennifer Lawrence's pod was fixed but she chose to not use it and stay with Chris Pratt.
When one of them died, the other one could have gone back into the pod if they wanted to.
He's like a dozen years older than her and men don't live as long so likely she would've gone into the autodoc although being old on a colony planet would've probably kind of sucked but she'd certainly have the celebrity she wanted.
Good mention. However, that far in the future, with medical technology such as med pods, I think it safe to assume that the life span between genders has most likely been slammed shut.
Yeah they're certainly working on it but he's still 13 years older. I still don't get why they have two of everything but not even one spare autodoc. Even if they believe the unsinkable analogy with the lifepods never fail with more than 5000 people on a ship it's definitely possible to have two really sick or hurt people at the same time.
31webseries nahh he woke up a year before her. No way he's 13 years older
I actually do understand why Jim’s doing what he did because he probably went actually insane without human contact
He could have woken her up but told her the truth right away. But yea I don't know what I would have done.
@@peterisawesomeplease I think many of us can now sympathize with Jim a little more now after having been in lockdown for so long, I know I would have gone insane within a year without human interaction.
That is what would make a good character villainous or relatable. What he did was wrong because you basically kidnapped someone just so you wouldn't be alone, however a lot of people would do that because they value their necesites more than the life or freedom of others and we will try to talk us into thinking we are doing something because it is necessary or it is better in the end although we know it is wrong. Kind of self delusion to justify what is seen as selfish but is kind of escencial to us. It makes a good character because even if we criticized him it conflicts us to think how would we really do when faced with such a situation.
Holy sh!t you guys are all delusional. With this logic you are saying that an incel, who is lonely and usually has no human contact, can just stalk a girl on facebook or something, and go kidnap her. How is that okay?!?!?!?! Let me give you an alternative: what if little buddy Jim here would've gone through all the files of the people to find the SMARTEST person, or even like a hacker or a programmer, so he can help him out figuring out what is going on, or maybe even reprogram the pods so they can go back to sleep. THERE IS NO REASON AT ALL FOR HIM TO HAVE WOKEN UP A FEMALE BECAUSE HIS D!CK IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HIS OWN LIFE AND THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE ON THE SHIP. Holy sh!t, are you guys r@p!st apologists too or what?
@@Kittysuit lol calm down it's just a movie. I love how you've taken our comments way out of context. Yes, I would have liked to have seen Jim use his brain a little more and maybe discover an alternate solution. I haven't seen the movie in a long time so I can't say for certainty, but I believe he did try to get the pod to put him back to sleep and it almost killed him. Also, not sure how you came to the conclusion that apparently we're all stalkers/rapists. We're discussing a move here love, that's all it is, a movie. It has nothing to do with the real world, because, and ill say it again here, it's just a movie.
And "How is that ok?". Well, that's a massive part of the movie, the moral dilemma, It's not ok, but is it? It sparks discussion (like this one). What would you do in Jim's situation? You have nothing, nobody, as far as you know you're going to die alone on this ship, do you wake someone up to keep you company?
Even though there’s a lot of plot holes and a different scenario where we all find out later that he woke her up.. I still thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I loved the concept and the acting.
I enjoyed the movie. But man, this guy was kind of a douche.
Me too
I agree. It raises an interesting moral dilemma...as in "what would I do in this situation". Also I think the production visuals are excellent. I love it and frankly I am disappointed that critics hate it.
There are no real plot holes, just think it really through.
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that in the ending THERE ARE BIRDS?
Johnny Timberlake and trees and plants. The ship had seeds and eggs and all for them to grow in the new planet🤷🏽♂️.
Maybe they used a giant UV light machine or something. I mean it is supposed to be the future I guess. It does seem strange... Where did the birds come from? Maybe they brought animals in cages like Noah's arc lol
Somebody left the eggs out again. Wife is going to be pissed.
I watched til the end just to see if he’d make a comment. There’s chickens and birds... HOW?!??
Johnny Timberlake BOIDS!! silly boids!!
CinemaSins Syndrome: Not being able to watch a movie without sinning it because of your habit of watching too much cinemasins
Brian Jean I am a. CinemaSins Syndrome survivor.
I HAVE THIS
+jbvader721 I suggest the name to officially be "CinemaSindrome".
Good one. "My name is _________ and I am a CinemaSindrome survivor."
Brian Jean People won't watch movies with me anymore because I feel the need to point out everything wrong with the movie.
I watched this last night, and aside from the many plotholes, the moral dilemmas really killed me. It kept me up for a while thinking about how scary the event that happened in the movie were.
I like the way they built up the moral dilemma, and how Chris is clearly aware of it, and suffering from guilt.
What irks me very much is: the movie tries to pretend that Chris had a sort of connection to her, read her writing and liked her personality, and that was why he picked her.
And that personality just accidentally was in the body of a ten years younger, stunningly beautiful woman. Rrrrrrrrrright.
Honestly, having her look a bit more average - quite bluntly, a bit more on Chris Pratt's level - would have worked better, because there wouldn't have been this "picked the prettiest sleeping girl he could find" vibe.
We know at the end of the movie that they can put a person back to hibernation mode. So why not just wake up 85 people, tell them how to do it, and send all but one to hibernation and let each person rotate each year. This means each person only ages 1 extra year and they'd all be able to reach the planet safe.
Because there is only 1 Pod. Meaning that if they would rotate with 85 people, everyone would age at least 84 years....
What could work is if the two switched every year. By the end, they would have aged 47 years each, but they still would be around 75 years old. Ofc that would mean that they are alone for that timespan.
You know that the pods don't work like that, right..... The pods are meant to keep you in suspended animation not put you in suspended animation. They can't do that
@@nocloutchasersundermywatch yeah that's right.
@@birddabble2430 Actually, there were two operational pods - Aurora's and the medical lab capsule. And there were education resources. The engineer could have been placed in one of them after giving instructions/access key. A child - or pregnant person - could have been put in the other. A time share would have given both of them a chance to see the new world after educating the child to take a meaningful place in it.
The sad thing is that the crew would spend the next month erasing the event from existence. Can't have the passengers knowing that two people woke-up early and prevented the destruction of the ship. It's bad for business and morale.
It's a colony ship where humans are trying to colonize another planet, writing a new human history. Do they really want to start off their history books with a lie?
Yes
Wesley Wallace there’s a reason for the saying “history is written by the victors” it doesn’t always mean it’s right.
@@wesleywallace4426 Happened before.
Except that it would take at least another century for anyone on Earth to know about it.
A better ending: Aurora is unable to rescue Jim, he ends up dead in space and his body floats away. Aurora tries to cope but slowly goes insane due to the thought of inevitable isolation. Then she decides to wake another passenger out of desperation, just like Jim did; as the passenger's eyes open after she short circuit's a pod, the screen fades to black.
Space and romance don't mix.
That would have made a FAR better ending.
Yes
lolol, then she would understand why Jim did what he did
did you watch the nerdwriter video per chance?
Or instead, the full story was in a dream and that was at the last years there. Welcome to my world I had been in from the past: 5-year-old me's Imagination!
Cineme Sins Gets _One sin_
For assuming the movie would wake them up a year early to enjoy the ship
when the movie explicitly says they wake up 4 months before they arrive
as the ship is nearing the planet and they enjoy luxury basically while the ship is entering orbit.
Plus, if Aurora Lane had the situational awareness of a real journalist, she'd think about how 1. Jim was awake a year ahead of her 2. She coincidentally is an attractive woman his own age 3. He was nicely groomed and shaved upon meeting her, after a year alone, and 4. He didn't seem nearly surprised enough when he saw her.
That’s a fact !
Good point
Journalist are not as talented asyou think
Her name is ridiculous, but it deserves an additional sin for what I assume is a ham-fisted Sleeping Beauty reference.
i think it's a reference to Aurora Borealis, but i chuckled at your comment because that could also be true.
Now I feel ashamed for naming my lazy cat Aurora.
next do everything wrong with the boss baby
definitely, I'd look forward to watching that
zest1513 hey!leave (princess)AAaurora alone!
"Unexplained white stains on the glass" 5:45
Paul Cosby GG
This needs to be the Top Comment ..
I don't get it
Paul Cosby At first I thought "hand prints" then I was like, wait what?
Paul Cosby o
So I saw this movie for the first time on FX it had already started by the time I turned it on. I came in right when Aurora woke up and let me say that I preferred starting at that point than seeing the entire first part of the movie. It was much more emotional to not know he woke her up on purpose.
Sure you did...
And you just ignored the part where Jim asked Arthur to keep his secret?
Based solely on this video, I'm going to dream up a story concept somewhat similar to this. Just consider it a skeleton...
Our lead protagonist, a beautiful, doe-eyed young woman called 'Dot (Amanda Seyfried),' wakes up inexplicably aboard the Spaceship 90 years too early. She meets 'Aubrey (Joseph Gordon-Levitt),' a slightly older, handsome, refined bloke who claims to have been awoken along with her. The harrowing situation slowly unfolds and Dot realizes, with suspicion, that a significant portion of the ship is off-limits to the passengers. Aubrey steadily begins to woo her but Dot eagerly ignores him while desperately trying to break into the restricted areas, hoping to find a solution to their plight. Dot is in fact more infatuated with another individual still in his pod called 'Gerald,' whom she met only briefly before cryosleep and was looking forward to getting to know when they awoke. Finally, Aubrey gives up and Dot is left alone to wear futilely away at the locked doors. Eventually, she too gives up and spirals despairingly into near-suicidal thoughts as she realizes that she's going to grow old and die on the ship.
Weeks later, Dot approaches Aubrey and the two begin to bond. Days elapse and a relationship grows between the two characters. At the same time, Dot begins to receive hazy, encrypted messages on her room's intercom from an unknown source which she is unable to decipher, though doesn't tell Aubrey as she doesn't entirely trust him. Weeks later however as the chemistry blossoms between them, Dot finally succumbs to his charm, the two go on a spacewalk together and, of course, make love afterward in Aubrey's room. In the middle of the night, however, whilst Aubrey is asleep, Dot wakes up and notices that he too is receiving the same encrypted messages as her on his intercom. Suddenly made suspicious of Aubrey, Dot discreetly searches his room till she finds a drawn cryptograph which allows her to decode the messages on her intercom. The messages appear to have been sent by an unnamed source which repeatedly demands Aubrey to open the restricted areas. Suddenly suspecting Aubrey might have someone trapped in the ship, Dot leaves the room and, remembering their spacewalk together, dons a spacesuit before entering the restricted section of the ship through the exterior. Once inside the dark, seemingly deserted area, revealed to be connected to the engine room, Dot searches for life and is abducted by an obscure figure.
Dot awakens in an interrogation room sat before an android called 'Jensen (Bill Skarsgard),' an automated Air Marshal who takes on the form of a six-foot, sinewy, tailored, emotionless, deadpan male. Jensen reveals that Aubrey actually awoke five years before Dot due to a system's malfunction and when he began preparing to open another pod, Jensen sought to restrain him, thus prompting Aubrey to entrap him in a section of the ship. Dot is in disbelief and eagerly departs from the room. However, before returning to the other section, Dot decides to explore a bit further and eventually finds a room, empty but for a pile of body-bags, revealed to contain other young women like herself. Horrified, Dot briefly collapses disillusioned before storming back to the main section where she confronts and reprimands Aubrey. Feeling trapped, Aubrey sedates Dot, locks the door she came through, and tearfully laments over his latest failed attempt to find love, forcing him to commit yet more sins. Meanwhile, Jensen is still trapped but now has Dot's spacesuit. He collapses his limps to fit into her size and goes on a spacewalk to enter the main section through the airlock. Meanwhile, Aubrey carries Dot to the infirmary and lays her on the trolley, hesitantly preparing a syringe to kill her. Jensen grows back into his normal size. In the infirmary, Dot awakens from the sedation before Aubrey can spike her. As she backs away from him, Aubrey reminds Dot that she can't go back into hypersleep so she is affectively delaying the inevitable by running from him. Dot concedes this to be true, but then remarks that she can't let anyone else fall victim to his lust. With this, Jensen suddenly barges in and shoots Aubrey with rubber bullets, severely injuring his leg as he flees into the corridor. He then turns to Dot and squeezes the pressure point in her neck, causing her to collapse unconscious. A lengthy chase ensues as Aubrey flees into the bowels of the ship, Jensen calmly pursuing him. Dot finally regains consciousness and gives herself an adrenaline shot to boost her awareness. She follows the pursuit to the engine room where Jensen eventually corners Aubrey who, in a bid to escape, climbs onto a crane rig suspended above the main reactor being cooled in a pool of water. This alerts Jensen who knows that if Aubrey were to fall in it would result in a chain reaction that would incinerate the ship. Due to his injured leg, Aubrey begins to struggle, leaving him dangling above the pool, and Dot finds the controls for the crane which allows her to manipulate it toward her. With Aubrey still struggling, Jensen decides to turn off the main reactor but without the time to don any protection, his circuits are melted by the lethal radiation. With the reactor successfully turned off, Dot goes to the walkway above the crane where she puts her hand out for Aubrey. Upon seeing her, however, Aubrey is guilt-stricken and willingly lets go of the crane before plummeting into the pool of ionizing water. Weeks later, Aubrey's body has been cleared from the reactor and Dot is left alone on the ship. The story ends with Dot staring hesitantly at the pod containing Gerald...
So there you go. It's not perfect but I was sort of making it up as I went along and with a bit more elaboration, I'm sure it could be great. Anyway, please let me know what you think and have a nice day xxxxx
I’d watch that movie!
Nice!
I should specify that in my version the Spaceship wouldn’t look like a lavish, video game candy land. Instead, it’s more like a submarine; dense, stripped down, no space goes to waste.
This should be a movie
👏👏
not having kids over 90 years?? thats good birth control there
petealwayslovesu exactly my thoughts
The heroes are travelling through space on a giant spaceship with crazy tech filled with all sorts of goods and you can't believe they have proper birth control up there ? 1) We're in the future. 2) They have the autodoc to safely perform any abortion if needed. 3) Don't you expect a luxury ship with 5000 passengers that are going to celebrate for two months to have plenty of condoms aboard :D?
I probably wouldn't want to have a child in that situation either, knowing that it will probably experience how a planet with fresh air looks at feels like when it reaches retirement age, if ever. Also being alone for a few decades since mom and dad won't live forever.
@@Zazume_ That wasn't the point of his comment. The point was that how on earth did they have sex for decades without getting pregnant!? There must've been a life's worth of condoms on the ship or either of them infertile! But yes I'd never want to have a child and then have to leave it alone for the rest of its life.
Or maybe they had a son, who as an adult took care of his parents when they were old, and once they passed away he (or she) got into the autodoc and was able to reach the end of the trip without aging, and so be as a "legacy" of their parents making the dream of reaching that new world come true, living for them the life they had wanted to have, and telling the story of everything that happened. Greetings from Chile...
I feel like this would have been a good horror movie if they had surprise revealed that chris pratt woke jen up early and then had him as an antagonist for the rest of the movie. Cus he knows all the ins and outs of the ship and how to control stuff and shes still relatively new, and him being alone for that time drove him crazy.
TheMightyGhost this movie is almost a remake of Pandorum. its a horror movie about an engineer who wakes up on a ship traveling to a new planet but there are only a few crazy people awake and the rest are asleep or killed by these man-eating monsters
TheMightyGhost what if they shot most of the film the same way but didnt tell chtis hes the badguy
I recommend watching nerdwriters video about this. He suggests writing the movie from Jennifer Lawrences perspective. Starting with her waking up. It was an interesting video
BarDs Mat except pandorum was actually good!
I actually watched that the other day on Starz and made the connection..good call.
Apparently Gus’ pod gave him syphilis.
Because if you look at the list of disorders (12:48) the 9th one down in the 2nd column (and the 13th one down in the 3rd column) is syphilitic aortitis. Which is inflammation of the aorta associated with the tertiary stage of syphilis.
Unless he had syphilis before going into the pod and it was overlooked which seems unlikely
racist much? How are you talking about Morpheus bro
there's literally aortic dissection there which means immididate death
@@nigenex3501 It also means Gus had it for more than 10 years....
So in the movie Jim says there’s no way to go back into hyper sleep. So how does the crew go back into hyper sleep for the return trip? It also makes no sense that the crew isn’t awakened in shifts to monitor things or at least a more sophisticated robot than the bar tender roaming around.
Well, they probably do the preparations on Homestead II they did on Earth before the ship launched
You mentioned that if the movie was filmed from Jennifer Lawrence's perspective, it'd be a horror. You're right, and had the movie started with her waking up, and only given us insight into Jim's character and perspective AFTER she discovers what he did, the movie would have been a thousand times better. The movie in its final state treated the audience members as idiots by delivering boring exposition, and telling us what to feel through Jim's eyes, however had we not known Jim's intentions or justification for what he does until 2/3 through the movie, it would've created tension and unpredictability through us sympathizing with Lawrence's character, and eventually forced us to choose whether or not Jim was justified in his decision due to not seeing his side of the story until later on. Very poor screenwriting can be fixed with just a few edits.
Edit: Because nobody is reading my replies, I wanted to clarify that this idea was first presented to me by Nerdwriter after he got the idea from another RUclipsr whose name I've forgotten. Check out the Nerdwriter for a better explanation than this comment, and please stop calling me a thief - this is how I felt when I saw the movie on opening night, the Nerdwriter simply explained it in a way that let me write this comment in the first place.
Totherphoenix They kinda addressed Jims actions by him looking for a way for her to go back to sleep and dieing alone on the ship.
Which I thought was predictable and did nothing for the story but further justify/forgave Jim's actions.
Totherphoenix Predictable, yup. Justify, I don't think so. Give her the capacity to forgive yes. Nothing for the story, I disagree. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
It's not the story that the writer wanted to tell, though. It's obvious that this is a love story, not psychological horror. As a writer, you make this kind of decision BEFORE the script is finished.
The real sin is that the writer made a bad decision by letting his main character do an inexcusable thing and not addressing it as much as it deserves. Which might have been a tall order for a movie, so he should have found another way to get the two lone people together like it was needed.
And yes, another malfunctioning pod would have been such a way. Not a great way, because it's 'just the coincidence that was needed', but if you have the choice between a weak excuse and a disgustingly terrible one, better pick weak. It#s the smaller of the two evils.
Totherphoenix
That kind of reminds me of 10 Cloverfield Lane. Almost exactly, too. If you haven't seen it, it's really really good and deals with isolation and that type of tension.
When Jim wakes his pod tells him he's in perfect health. Wouldn't Gus's pod have told him he was, at the very least, extremely sick and to seek medical attention immediately? Like maybe before coughing up blood?
Maybe he was so dizzy while waking up (because of his illnesses) that he couldn't listen to that voice properly. We didn't see how he woke up, but he mentioned that his pod broke much worse than Jim's did, causing that the waking up introduction maybe wasn't even there.
he knew
The list of conditions they show is far too unrealistic. He has half of known types of vasculitis, two or three granulomatous diseases, his aorta would be a light touch from completely rupturing from the 2 or 3 aneurysms they list, is actively bleeding in the brain and he has end stage syphilis.
They could just have him be exposed to high doses of radiation or something, not copy-paste the google results from "vascular disease"
his pod was malfunctioning. it would be messed up, unable to warn him of his health issues
He was apart of a plot device. That's why.
I mainly like how after their falling out when she discovers the truth, they apparently have a custody deal with the bartender.
Technically you resuscitate a dead person, when a person's heart stops they are technically dead.
Shhh, he might learn something!
you are technically dead upon brain death, not before
I HATED the Fishburne Ex Machina. They need a character to open a door. So they let him wake up. Then they don't need him anymore. So they let him die. SERIOUSLY??
yeah I didn't like that either. They should've thought of something else instead of this.
+Ryan Crins Maybe have the ship's identification system shut down or all the doors start malfunctioning? That way, it shows off more ways that the ship is breaking down aside from "roombas are falling from the sky" in addition to letting the characters go where they need to, and also ties in to when JLaw mentions she was stuck in her room for two days. That could lead to some contrived-feeling moments when the door to a plot-important room won't open when it has every other time though.
Yoctopory I was so mad they used Fishburne for such a bullshit small role. He is such a good actor and they wasted him!
Yeah I was mad about that. There is absolutely NO REASON why e had to die. I'm only 12:45 into this video but I want to go ahead and also call BS on there only being one medical pod for 5,000 people.
You are silly. It sounds like you think they base the plot around Fishburnes character.
But to answer your sub-question. Yes..that is how black characters in white movies live. The world has been split bewteeen cultures and races since dawn, no surprise I hope?
I thought what if Jim actually did end up dying at the end and couldn’t be revived, then Aurora would be alone and it would be her being alone for a year or maybe two years and she gets desperate and wakes somebody up then end credits. It would have been a crazy way to end it
Llama holy shit
She doesnt know how to open it though
You would think the people paid millions of dollars would figure this shit out
Llama and kinda hypocritical lol
With a whole year of nothing to do, even you would learn how technology works and open pod up.
Watching this movie in 2020 you realize that Chris Pratt essentially became Thor from Avengers Endgame.
I think (at least) two major sins are missing:
1. If Aurora has bought a return passage, one would certainly expect some unit on board that can put her to sleep again in the original pod, not just the autodoc. Apparently, when return of the ship is intended, also the crew would have to be put to sleep again ...
2. Given how gravity is created on such ship (namely by rotation of the whole ship, or at least the outer ring) there is no way it can break down and recover as fast as it happened two times (when Aurora was in the pool and when they crossed the main hall). And, to add on this, gravity in the reactor area (which should be close to the center) would have to be much weaker than on the living quarters on the outside.
Maybe she was bound to return on a different ship
Very good points.
How was the "your door will illuminate for you" going to work if all the passengers were waking up?
Maybe the door illuminated for that person only
My point was that there would be a lot of passengers there at once. Lots of doors would be lit up.
"Maybe the door illuminated for that person only"...? -_-
Doesn't help. If there are lots of people around, then lots of doors will be lit up. A person cannot tell which door is meant for them.
He meant that maybe the ship would make it so when the door illuminates only the person who has that room would see it light up. Don't think that's possible though
Is nobody going to mention the fact that Jim or Aurora had to watch the other die when they got older, and had to spend the rest of their (old) life with a corpse on board? Alone?
Julia Caro Unless a double-suicide happened... Mirai Nikki style
Unless they died within minutes of each other. That has been known to happen.
Either way, there wouldn't be a corpse on board. They could easily eject the corpse out the airlock.
Unless they were too attached to the corpse to jettison them, but yes, they could.
Julia Caro Now that I think about, after one of them dies from old age the other could lock themself up in the medical-pod like Jim mentioned they can and get to live at the new planet even for a bit.
Or maybe they could've taken turns in the medical-pod and calculate their time so they both won't be too lonely or old and actually get to reach the new planet
+abridgitt k.
That alternate thing was *exactly* what my friends and I thought about at the end. But then I figured they wanted to spend more time together, and if they alternate, (i.e 44 years me 44 years you) they stil barely get time to communicate. Even if they switch every day, the switch has to be quick or else even minutes of time spent together adds up in 44 years.
Plus, 44 years added to their 20s or 30s would still make them old.
This movie with its few logical flaws is still one of my favorite sci-fi films. Very unique sense of aloneness and the decision to basically end someone’s life by waking them up which is a duality in of itself, is just amazing.
That's a tragic twist, and now I am very sorry for Peter and Wendy.
Sin 117 - Aroura was supposed to spend 1 year on Homestead 2 and flight back to earth - presumably with at least part of the remaining 257 crew. How were they going to do that with no capacity to put people back in hybernation except for one autodoc...
Maybe the crew would do it
Ooof pothole. Realistically a colony ship would be hitting multiple stops along the way, putting the crew under each time, so there would be a way to put a passenger back to sleep. It was probably just bad corporate propaganda that there weren't any failures of the chambers because who would want to risk a 1% chance of dying?
How awesome would it have been if they released two versions of the movie from each perspective at the same time, like an a side and b side. One is romance, the other one horror
Team 974 Would be interesting
A horror movie where eventually the victim falls in love with the creep. Lol
When I watched this blind, I thought that one person wakes up and then when they die someone else wakes up. When Jim was going to walk outside without his spacesuit, I thought he actually would and Aurora would wake up afterward.
Team 974 Not awesome at all, one film was bad enough.
In the horror; Arthur brakes all the bottles of booze.
Why is nobody mentioning the fact that they probably would have had kids walking around in the final scene that were probably adults by the time the others woke up.
Yeah, that's what I had thought about! Also, why is the voice in the end the one of a young female telling about all the wonderful things they had achieved. I would have at least expected an old voice, wouldn't you?
I thought it was Aurora's voice, will have to rewatch that part.
Yes it was, but since it was clearly a recorded message, you should've expected an old version of her voice.
ahh true true good catch, she would have been a granny talking about the life they had.
I also thought about the child situation, but maybe Aurora and Jim were a thoughtful couple and figured out it wouldn't be life worth living for their children if they ever had them. Just imagine growing up, never going to school, never meeting anyone besides your parents and siblings, the moment your parents die... And let's not even talk about incest... It would be awkward for the rest of the 4998 passengers to wake up to witness _Deliverance_. :D
Plot Twist: The ship`s AI is actually the villain. Initiated as a malfunction, it wakes up a passenger with just enough skills to fix the malfunctions on the ship but they can only be fixed with at least a second person he has to wake up, but it has to be a passenger, he can not wake crew members. Leaving him only two choices: Unable to fix the problem single-handed he will die alone OR he commits a crime by waking s.o. up & forcing him/her into the same treadmill as him, but repairing the ship together and thereby saving over 5000 lives.
Sin - 119: Hearing that Aroura was planning to travel back to earth, Jim does not suddently realize that there must be some technology available on board to put people back in hybernation
Yeah I caught that too. They really didn't think that plot point through very well
Man, the REALLY sad thing is that this would have been so brilliant as a stealth thriller where we don't know Pratt opened her pod and, you know, presumably goes all stabby when she rejects him. Like, I almost wonder if that's how this script started out, but once J-Law and C-Pratt got attached, some genius decided it HAD to be rewritten into a romcom no matter how much sense it didn't make.
Jason Blalock, I was wishing it would be that way too.
Jason Blalock I KNOW RIGHT. honestly I hate when Hollywood has a good idea and fucks it like this
Yes it could have been a stalker film but nope it had be romantic.
I remember reading about this, the original script had the girl come in at the end and the section with him getting depressed and beardy lasted much longer. I think it was also supposed to be creepier as well.
It's close to being a good film, and then you feel like the there was some company meddling involved. You could either do it 1) Start from where Aurora wakes up, follow the film from their normally, show her existential dread, and her getting stockholmed by the Pratt man. We get the reveal he woke her up, then we flash back. We see the first bit of the film and follow Jims story, where he slowly goes insane for a year. I want to push the insane a bit further than we see in the film.
Or, 2) The film continues normally, we see all the normal shit that happens, and instead of blanketing over Aurora wanting to be with Jim, we discuss it further, look deeper into the morality of the whole thing.
Or 3) The Films the same, we cut the middle relationship bit down by like 30%. We find out somethings wrong with the ship after waking Aurora (we don't need the Fishburne in any of these by the way), we do the reveal bit again, they argue, the bad stuff happens, and then we get Jim fixing the problem. But instead of the feels good ending, Jim dies. The back section of the film is watching Aurora, who in this would never have gotten back with Jim and apologised, deal with being the only one awake. The film ends with her waking up another passenger.
This movie would've been a lot better if Jim died in space and the movie ended with Aurora being alone on the ship, it could've ended with a black screen and the ship saying another person has been woken up
wow.. that would have given the movie a little depth at least
THIS!
This is almost the exact same ending my friend and I discussed after watching this movie. Except we had a slightly different idea. Instead of Aurora remaining awake with Jim at the end of the movie, Aurora decides to go into hibernation and Jim roams around the ship in isolation. After perhaps cleaning up a few things, or making a few differences here or there (such as planting the trees in the main hall), Jim returns to the 'bungee jump room' for lack of a better term, and proceeds forward into the airlock. The final shot of the film is Jim contemplating suicide through ejection, and as his hand nears the button to open the door, the film ends abruptly, leaving it up to the viewers to decide whether he lived or died.
I agree with most of the sins, if not all in this video, but my biggest gripe was that the theatrical trailer hooked people in to watch the movie on a lie. Through clever line merging/editing, the trailer creates the impression that there was a higher purpose or potentially malevolent reason as to why Jim and Aurora are the only two awake on the ship. This is enforced by the simple line: "There's a reason we're the only two awake on this ship.", which turned out to be, as I stated, dialogue from different parts of the movie merged to deceive. When I found out the movie was one big sappy load of shit I regretted seeing it in theatres. What a bummer of a movie.
No, I don't think a depressive end would be right for this movie
Brummbar Gaming the ending was depressing as hell anyway idc how much the director tried to make it seem other wise
Brummbar, It's not depressing, it's ambiguous. I'm sure the ratio of movies ending on positive tones as opposed to negative/neutral ones far more favours the former. I like ambiguity, I enjoy mystery, and I love the conversation that those bring.
Cinemasins forgot that wouldn’t they go blind if they looked at the star??? Like we can’t look at the sun and it is a star😂
Well, like in the movie Sunshine I am sure this ship's viewing port has a sufficient filter to allow safe viewing.
Considering that they developed a way to ship people across galaxys, its almost impossible for them not to develop some safety measure to put crew asleep if they woke up, and that they would not have a team of crew members alternating hyper-sleep in case something happened
We have companies out there they catch ransomware and have no backups and you think this makes no sense. LOL
How upset are all the other passengers going to be when they find out those two have been raiding their stuff for a half century. On top of that, they are expecting four months of luxury cruise and will be waking up to Jungle Book.
They'll be out looking for the bare necessities I guess...
yarpen26 I hate you
yarpen26 Ha! 😄
Pick a choice, wake up 90 years earlier all alone, or wake up to a jungle book that last only 4 months. I prefer the latter. The crew and passenger have no one to blame except themselves for being so arrogant about a fail-safe in a TOP-10 concern.
I died at jungle book
Can we have a sin for the fact that on a ship with top fucking futuristic medical stuff that can replace stem cells and basically do god damn anything, Jim and aurora weren't able to live to 110-120 years old????
exactly. 1:43:21 into the movie, notice that a function called "Telomere Reset" exist?
It's basically mean reset aging, restore DNA's regenerative capability, and young again...
Well they would have to know about the function to actually use it. Then again after 80 or so years on the ship they should proably have run into it after several cases of probable health issues.
Jim said that their are parts to everything. So technically shouldn’t he be able to make another pod and then they could both be alive.
The pod dosnt put them to sleep it keeps them asleep they were put under on earth
@@hopelessheathen8190 yes that's right
7:03 ALSO Aurora demonstrates she has zero intuition after hearing this message by not already realizing that if Hibernation Pods fail this infrequently, then there is probably more of a chance of Jim opening her pod himself then a totally separate Hibernation Pod error.
The dark version would be She is still angry at Jim for waking her up, kills him or maybe he dies saving the ship, then she becomes lonely and at the very end we see her waking someone up so she doesn’t have to be alone, Doing exactly what Jim did to her.....😧
Sometimes we have to believe in fate, too. I see that God or Goodness is touching in this story.
Phenomena or miracles have happened many times in the world and our life.
• Then, Don't underestimate anything in one way.
• It's a sci-fi film, so think about the possibilities.
Jim did not intend to awaken anyone until he began to love Aurora.
I don't say that he did the right thing, but his situation forced him to do that.
If Jim hadn't met Aurora, there would be no love or hope.
Therefore, he would be alone and would become a mental patient, which would result in suicide.
If Gus woke up in that situation, he wouldn't know what's happening here. Perhaps he would go to the auto doc to be hibernated.
Or
When he discovered the problem of the ship with his poor health, all would be late.
Even if he had called certain crew members, it would have taken longer to get them back.
Anyway, things would be a disaster.
Aurora loved him with all her heart, she doesn't like to put him alone there.
so she decided to stay with him while she had an opportunity to return to hibernation.
Jim and Aurora cared about the food and other provisions of the ship so that other passengers could survive when they woke up. That's why they decided not to give birth to the kids. They might have received assistance from the auto doc.
This story is about pure love.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonour others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. It isn’t happy with injustice, but it is happy with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hope, always perseveres. Love never fails”.
WTF. LOL.
That is actually what I thought was going to happen. That would have made a little more sense than her just suddenly getting over it and deciding to stay with him the rest of her life.
I was actually thinking this while watching the film that she wakes up a hot dude to get back at him or some chain reaction happens where people keep waking up other people and it devolves into lord of the flies. Would have been like a prisoner experiment type of situation.
That's actually a great idea
Also, Jim's awake and his door lights up.
But what if his thing didn't malfunction and he woke up at the same time as everyone else? Then based on this logic, EVERYONE'S room door would light up. Wouldn't that be confusing?
Nice catch! Imagine someone breaking into your room every 5 minutes 😂
Surely the process of waking each pod up would be staggered? So that there is time for each person to find their room before the next comes, prevents crowding too.
they would have been dead remember?
They would've woken up dead.
They wouldn't be dead. No malfunction=no asteroid hit.
Or what if it went around the asteroids thus no problems = everyone wakes up at once.
They would need at least 30 minutes between wakes to not cause confusion. Multiple that with 5000 and you get 150 000 minutes or 2500 hours or 104 days So.....
Ps.: If you knock it down to five minutes it is still 17.7 Days. It is possible it's just long to accomplish.
The problem was the ship designers didn't include a Huey, Dewy and Louie roaming around fixing things that went wrong.
But they did have a ship full of Roombas...
This is why this ship almost failed in a few years whereas the Red Dwarf was able to happily sail along for 3 million years with no crew
Scutters: never underestimate them
Moral of the story : if you want to reach the new planet safe and sound, be ugly.
10:00 you cant even stare at the sun ON EARTH, theres is no way for them to stare at a star this close and not get binded.
Vaporized*
@@alexamadori9884 heat transfers from a material to an other, In the movie it seems that they are near to the star but they are probably millions of km away from it. Imagine they were in a disntace of just 2.2 millions of km away, they would be ok because the spaceship probably has thermal shields that protect tbem from the heat and radiation. Nowadays we have these carbon-carbon shields that can protect us from more than 2.500°C. Btw in the movie it seems they are really close to the star but imagine being just 2.2M km away from the SUN, it would be that big. Just to have a comparisson in Earth we are 150M km away from the sun.
Depends on the age of the star really young stars are not powerful in comparison to an older one
@@seanomanary5691 well yes and no, it's a really complicated topic and crticizing the movie for that is really stupid tbh
Three words: automatic tinted glass.
Aurora....Sleeping Beauty...Brier Rose...Rose from Titanic. Ohhhhh I get it.
Aurora! Of course. :D
holy shit.
took me one whole goddamn year.
Briar Rose IS sleeping beauty, it's just the Brother's Grimm version that she's named Briar Rose instead of Aurora
There are quarters because IN THE MOVIE, they say they wake up a few weeks before they reach Homestead II.
Um duhh he's gotta go check the obd2 port, it'll probably be under the dashboard somewhere
Well... At least it's not a remake or adaptation.
..Yet.
A one and done, those are a rare thing nowadays. You can tell a story in a single movie rather than a trilogy or a franchise. It's also not a sequel or a prequel, at least that we know it.
It is an adaptation, its based off a book.
John Crum he would have said "challenge accepted!"
Nope, but it is still part of the latest movie-trend of space and desperate situations that have released recently. Passengers, Gravity, Interstellar, etc.
It’d be a cool idea to have not let the audience know Chris Pratt didn’t wake her up. Imagine that twist
Sometimes we have to believe in fate, too. I see that God or Goodness is touching in this story.
Phenomena or miracles have happened many times in the world and our life.
• Then, Don't underestimate anything in one way.
• It's a sci-fi film, so think about the possibilities.
Jim did not intend to awaken anyone until he began to love Aurora.
I don't say that he did the right thing, but his situation forced him to do that.
If Jim hadn't met Aurora, there would be no love or hope.
Therefore, he would be alone and would become a mental patient, which would result in suicide.
If Gus woke up in that situation, he wouldn't know what's happening here. Perhaps he would go to the auto doc to be hibernated.
Or
When he discovered the problem of the ship with his poor health, all would be late.
Even if he had called certain crew members, it would have taken longer to get them back.
Anyway, things would be a disaster.
Aurora loved him with all her heart, she doesn't like to put him alone there.
so she decided to stay with him while she had an opportunity to return to hibernation.
Jim and Aurora cared about the food and other provisions of the ship so that other passengers could survive when they woke up. That's why they decided not to give birth to the kids. They might have received assistance from the auto doc.
This story is about pure love.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonour others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. It isn’t happy with injustice, but it is happy with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hope, always perseveres. Love never fails”.
[1 Corinthians 13:4-8]
But he did wake her up? I'm confused
You're right! That would make it more from her perspective - she wakes up, is hung-over, there's this guy explaining to her what happened ... different story, but at least as good because the audience would really hate Chris' guts.
The way it is, viewers are kind of on his side after seeing how one year of isolation got to him.
@@crazyclemsonfan8305 you stupid or what?
Cool idea indeed but it would require serious rewriting of the script. Sometimes simpler is better.
I remember thinking that if i was in the same situation, i would just cry all day , everyday cuz i would be too scared to open another pod to get help
the biggest sin is having Andy Garcia act in the movie for 2 seconds
I think the bartender woke Jim up so he could do what he's supposed to do.
he can't, because he was on wires, maybe that doesn't make sense but in other words he was limited because he had his route or something, just look at the part of the movie where Jim looks at him and say "oh he's a robot".
Plot twist: bartender got waken up too early, so he woke up Jim in order to have some company
Plot twist, the Robot is a lesbian
goddamnit, someone ruined the 666 likes
Why was there only 2 space suits for over 5000 people on the ship
Because when you go to the theme park, they don't have a giant wheel with millions of seats. Everybody has to wait for their chance. That spacesuit thingy was like a theme park ride to experience zero gravity. Not for running away from the ship or anything.
Come to think of it, what would be the use of mutiny in space? Gonna die there eventually, just waaaaaaay faster than you would at sea.
Anonymous Horse Titanic-logic.
that is simple my friend. if you remember the plot you will remember that they are charging for everything. therefore you can understand that they will charge very heavily for space walking as well. if sending a 1-minute video to earth cost 6k just imagine how much they would be charging for spacewalk time LOLZ. it would not be crowded as only the super rich would be willing to pay for such luxury.
Jim didn't care since he was not going to pay the bill anyway. lol
Anonymous Horse there wasn't
here is why, because this movie is stupid and it was written by stupid people
Why didn't Jim punch Arthur in the face real hard after he opened his big mouth to Aurora about opening her pod intentionally after he promised not to say anything? If I were Jim I would have been so mad at Arthur, as mad as Aurora was at Jim.
not arthurs fault, aurora said "there is no secret between us" arthur says to jim "Is that so?" and jim replied with "you heard the lady"
Because Jim answered aurora to author you heard the lady when she said there is no secrets between us
Because he's a robot.
This movie would have been so much better if it started when Jennifer Lawrence wakes up, and then she discovers over time that he woke up first and woke her up. It would have been amazing to learn that he woke her when she did.
9:32 "Attention, you may wish to proceed to a viewing area"
you missed a well disguised "you have to take a look at this" cliche
Kék Dragnal a
Great catch!
I think it was Nerdwriter1 who suggested that the movie would be much much better if it was rearranged to be from Jennifer Lawrence's perspective. The whole tone of the movie would change and our first instinct would be to not trust Chris Pratt's character instead of empathize with him, and when Jennifer learns that she was woken up early by Chris it would be more of a twist than an inevitability that she found out. They could definitely put the whole beginning when Chris Pratt wakes up in a later part of the movie to have you finally emphasize with the character after not trusting him and learning of the horrible thing he had done, showing a depth of character that isn't there when we are shown Chris Pratt's perspective of it first.
I watched that video, too. I would be very interested in watching a rewrite of the movie with that storyline.
Sean Parmer empathize =/= emphasize
sad they didn't do this, would have made such a great plot twist
I don't think think so. The script it's not that good and neither are the actors, so that couldn't have been pulled off.
I don't see how "not trust Christ Pratt's character" is possible, like he's either goofy or charming. The movie genre would still be a mess, going from sci fi, to romance to sci fi and on again, the third act would still flop.
And i think if they would've go that way they would have got into more problems than they already have with feminist and crap, and Chris Pratt backstory on the third act won't have change that.
Still Chris Pratt waking Jennifer Lawrence still should been the twist, sice that's what most of the marketing of the movie was based on
I was thinking this too omg
Chris Pratt with a fake beard just looks like Bo Burnham and dammit now I can't unsee it...
14:59 You can revive dead persons
Jim problems are probably hypothermia which can be easily fixed
Morpheus had long existing illness that developed into untreatable ending
Did anyone else think her name was a Sleeping Beauty reference? I mean, she's beautiful, she's "sleeping", and her name is Aurora. Oh, and she gets mistreated by a man while sleeping. Hmm.
Ooooooooh
Mistreated? You have read/seen Sleeping Beauty right? Is CPR also mistreatment?
@@SlavaUkraini1114 You haven't read the original where she ends up pregnant and still asleep?
@@dmf81 Can't tell if troll, moron, or victim of fake news.
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Grimm%27s_Household_Tales,_Volume_1/Little_Snow-White
In the original the prince's servants trip over a tree stump causing the poisoned apple to dislodge itself from snow white's throat.
Oh the horror! Call the Misogyny Police!
@@SlavaUkraini1114 Actually, she was raped.
But that's not very child friendly, so it was cut out.
That bar is really giving me "The Shining" vibes.
Special Agent Washing Tub thought it was only me
It's clearly a nod to the shining.
I was rather annoyed he wasn't named "Lloyd" ...
WHOA man I was watching The Shining last night and my mom goes "doesn't that bar scene make you think of the movie where those two people woke up in space...?" that's so nuts, the more you think about it the more similar it feels
Special Agent Washing Tub first thing i said when i saw it
This movie would have been so much better if it opened when Aurora was waking up. Then we all wouldn't be aware of Jim's dark secret until close to the end. Then bam, we escalate further into both of them having to work together to save the Avalon.
I laughed out loud when the ship stoped spinning IN SPACE when the engine went out
The computer told Jim when he woke up that he would be spending the last 4 months on the ship before reaching the new planet. That's why the ship has all the amenities.
Throat Auger and yet everyone woke up as homestead was in clear view and considering it looks about twice the distance from our moon there shouldn't even be that much amenities
That should have been one of the last sins in this video.
It was the 3rd to last sin.
The ship was traveling at half the speed of light at the point at which Laurence Fishburne awoke -That doesn't mean that's how fast it travels. A more plausible dynamic would be that the ship spends something like half it's voyage accelerating and half it's voyage decelerating. It might reach 75% of C by the time it starts slowing down.
Also - the crew and passengers would be awake and going through colonial orientation for 4 months prior to debarking, but that does not mean they would have to be awakened when the ship is "4 months worth of distance" from it's destination. A more plausible dynamic would be that the ship awakens the passengers and crew upon arrival and enters a stable orbit around the planet for 4 months, during which time colonial supplies are systematically debarked to the new planet, so that when they do start ferrying passengers down to the planet there are already habitats, medical facilities, and rudimentary agri-facilities capable of sustaining the sudden arrival of 5200 humans.
A more egregious sin than any of these would be how are (presumably) 2500 breeding pairs sufficient to sustain stable planetary colonization and isolated evolution, without controls in place to coordinate mating best-practices? Each passenger would have to be carefully screened for genetic diversity relative to all other passengers, as well as fertility concerns, and and then you'd just have to hope that not too much cousin-love starts taking place. Seems like you'd need to keep refreshing the population with more and more colonists every few hundred years I guess. Otherwise you'll end up after a few generations with and increasingly dull witted and unhealthy population of colonists.
+No Scope The thing is, if the ship traveled Brachistachrone-style, then why is it still accelerating _towards_ Homestead II when it's so close to the planet.
are we not gonna talk about the fact that at the end there are chickens, birds, rabbits, plants, streams, AND a sun.... on a spaceship 😐😂
Where did they get the soil from?
What about water?
lol
They had plants in stasis (the roses) and most likely they would take the opportunity to bring fresh livestock to the colony planet. If you notice, in one scene in the cargo storage there is even a submarine hung up near the ceiling. Pretty good bet there is a veritable plethora of randomness in the cargo hold.
MrShadowpanther3 good point 😂
MrShadowpanther3 Doesn't that mean they ruined the future by freeing the cargo?
There are probably multiple ships on their way to the planet. They didn't ruin the future but merely inconvenienced it.
Sin number 117: at the ending scene there are birds flying around
That Superintendent Chalmers quote at end?
Perfect use of it! (Chef's kiss)
Arthur was the best part of this film.
tru
His acting was spot-on, and he looks so suave.
100% agreeeeeee I watched the film just because Michael Sheen
Arthur was the best character and you can't change my mind
I'm surprised he didn't point out that they look directly at the sun for about a solid minute with no consequences. We can't look at the sun here on Earth. But if you're in space and attractive, go for it.
Andrew Morales the windows were probably hella tinted
Also, wouldn't the intense radiation completely disintegrate the ship
Luke Bas, It stands to reason that if you have a ship capable of interstellar travel then it has the ability to deal with large amounts of radiation as the passengers would all die of cancer if there wasn't some sort of shielding present.
Special tint my ass..they didn't even have replacement pods!!!
Andrew Morales one pod for 5000 colonists and 258 crew members. Yep, that's budget cut.
it would’ve been amazing if at the end there was an old couple at the bar saying,”good morning!”
After the Christopher Columbus the sixteenth gag I had to get a towel to wipe up the milk I HAD been drinking
+1 sin for the inclusion of animals in the flourishing foliage scene, since there were no animals to be seen on the ship previously in the movie. I mean, sure, maybe they had plant seeds kept somewhere on the ship, but animals? I think not.
The animals would have been in stasis too...
PangoPixel they actually did have animals on the ship in one single scene, however the thing I found most bullshit was the fact that both of them could squeeze into the pod in the medical ward. It's not like you need to lay down in the thing for it to put you to sleep, just lay on your side or some shit. Seriously also they woke up those animals from hybernation just to have them around, why? Another thing, they didn't have kids, like at all, even though they were madly in love with each other at the end and were going to get extremely bored very fast, they still didn't have kids, man fuck this movie.
Perhaps Jim's "death and resuscitation"/"Main character can't die" left him sterilized making it impossible to have kids.
In the scene when he goes to find a rose, he walks past cows. Also FUCK that lazy bullshit ending. I mean NO kids?
PangoPixel Exactly that's the only problem I seen and have with this movie other than that it was a good movie
I am so happy that Cinema Sins busted out the approximate distance to particular stars just to call out bullshit on this movie.
I was also thinking that they came waaay too close to the star. Seems like they should have gotten a bit toasty, no?
You can't even look at the Sun from Earth on a clear day, yet they can see a larger star basically right next to them without going blind with a giant viewer....
True, the right way to have done it is to not have windows at all (structural weakness and all that) but instead have viewing screens that show what the outside currently looks like.
15:51 The ending of your video was more entertaining and made more sense than the entire film.
"HotBody McFabTits" LMAO
There are a ton of alterations where this movie *could* have been a masterpiece. But sadly mainstream audiences can't handle dark and twisted psychological stories. They just want mushy romance.
My favorite part of this movie was where after she finds out he woke her up, she goes into his room while he was asleep and starts beating him up. Then stops herself right before killing him. They likely wanted it to seem like she couldn't kill him because she still "loved" him or something, but I want to believe she didn't because then she herself would then be alone.
same
Yup
You’re not special stfu
Seeing as mainstream audiences didn't like this film your point is kinda moot.
I thought it was a good movie. Even as a 33 year old male.
should've sinned for the fact that in actual space asteroid fields are much too spaced out to even notice an asteroid field. when nase sends probes out to planets beyond our own, they still do the math and put it on a course to make sure it won't hit any, but really the odds are so incredibly minuscule they wouldn't really have to. people / directors really be thinking asteroid fields aren't just literally 99.999% empty space.
That’s actually a really cool fact
Thanks dude
Nasa
Yeah, but I mean the scriptwriters cannot be bothered to calculate the approximate distance of a real star they put in the movie from the earth. Actually reading up on Asteroid fields would be a far stretch imo!
Brett if they had thought this through this movie wouldn't be born at all!
plot twist. that's exactly why the ship had no safety measures for an asteroid strike, because the chances were so incredibly low! you just justified one of the least believable parts of this movie! lol
As a mechanic I will vouch for six mechanics wiping out a bar.
14:24 But the engine does not affect the gravity because the gravity is simulated. It is just centrifugal force meaning it is only affected by the speed at which the ship is rotating, not the engine. Even if the engine is off why would the ship stop rotating?