Mac Studio M2 MAX - BUY THE BASE MODEL!
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Apple just refreshed their new pro Mac lineup and for the first time has an updated apple silicon Mac Pro and a new M2 Ultra Mac Studio on the top end of the pro lineup. However, you may want to consider skipping both of those models for what I think is the best pro Mac in the entire lineup, the M2 Max Mac Studio.
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I have a 2009 Mac Pro that still works great. Almost bought the M1 Studio last year, but glad I waited. Looks like this M2 has the potential to outlive me. I’m 71 and got my first Mac, a Plus in 1986. The future is here!
I had the 2010 Mac Pro 12-core 3.46 Ghz. Now the Studio M1 Max. Very much faster, even the emulated Intel programmes run faster.
I have an Intel 13900k with NVidia RTX4090 for myself. I bought the M2 max studio with 38 GPU core and 1TB of storage for my wife. I just cannot get over how much I like her computer. Powerful enough (more than powerful enough) for gaming and 100% totally quiet. I still like my computer for its power but I am so impressed with this studio and I always look at it walking by her office. I would even say I am a little jealous!
what gaming can you don't on this?
Excellent video! Just ordered the base model and I’m so excited. Coming out of a 2015 iMac, this is needed improvement for me.
I ordered 2 of these this week for my office. The only downside was the storage. 1GB storage should of been baseline for these machines as I had to upspec both which kind of sucks. I was tempted by the high end mac mini pro - but the 32g in the studio and cooling tipped me over the edge. Thanks for the great content.
I 100%. If you’re going to have it be 32gb then storage needs to be 1tb.
@@j0j01192 external storage is cheaper
U mean 1tb?
why? I use external drives for all of my files. I would be good with 100 GB and cheaper mac.
clearly.... really worth correcting?@@aaravsethi6070
I agree with your assessment. I run a professional recording studio and went with 64gb of RAM. I’ve only used it for a few hours so far and I can tell that 32gb would have been perfectly fine. 64gb however gives me some future proofing and extra horsepower for the densest of projects.
Sound designer and composer here.. I bought the Mac Studio M1 Max 32gb variant last year and I've been great however I will say that the 2 things I wish I had done was purchase the 64gb spec with a larger HD. So I will be eventually upgrading to the M2 with 64gb and larger HD.
@@GodsRockstarMusic absolutely. Running my first tracking session today and it’s been absolute butter with 64gb and a 1TB drive. Granted it’s a really chill acoustic ballad, but I’m definitely happy that I bumped up the RAM and HD. I’ve also been recording all day at a buffer size of 32, which I’ve never been able to do past 25 tracks on any of my previous machines.
@@redconvertiblerecording These silicon chips are amazingly efficient. I primarily use Logic so I never had an issue with 32gb, however getting the 64gb will future proof me for the next 6+ years. I've noticed how things have gotten better as the software companies upgraded. I've been using less Rosetta and more Native the past 3 months. Last year there was a lot of angst and I had to have a lot more patience. lol
@@redconvertiblerecordingllo God's Rockstar,I've ordered the M2 max studio with 64gig ram but only 512 HD.Should I bump it up to 1tb or just use portable hard drives? I'm using logic,pro tools and reaper.How much faster efficient would 1td be?
@@tomalexiou9573 I’ve definitely seen videos online recently showing that 1TB will give you a pretty good speed bump compared to 512gb. That was part of the reason I went 1TB. Also my Mac Studio is using around 300gb of storage with all my plugins, samples, etc installed so I would’ve only had roughly 200gb of free space as opposed to 600+gb of space with 1TB. IMO just go with 1TB if you can still update your order. I highly doubt you’ll regret having more storage 2-3 years down the road.
thank you very much for this "not boring AT ALL review" 😊 please, which configuration would you suggest for logic pro multiple vst and plugin, and little video editing? also, I'm working currently on I mac pro 2019, which monitor would you take? thanks a lot and have a nice summer
If I buy a new Mac in the next couple of months it will absolutely be the base Mac Studio. It's brilliant. I currently have the el cheapo M1 Mac mini ... and it's the best Mac I've ever purchased and it's also the cheapest. However, I should have bumped the RAM from 8 to 16. On the current M2 Mac mini by the time you bump the RAM and the SSD (to the speedier one) ... you're close enough to the price of the M2 Studio that it just makes sense. -- By the way ... probably not fair to compare the prices of laptops and desktops unless you include the cost of a monitor with the desktop.
Thanks, Great review. What is the name/brand of that shelf/riser your monitor is on?
I'm gonna to buy my first ever Mac, mostly working in adobe illustrator and streaming on twitch. Which version do you reccomend? Will 64 GB Ram enough? Or take more?
I wanna know what differences it makes between the M2 MAX 30-core GPU and the 38-core GPU but I can’t find any info of it
Spend the $200 to upgrade to 1TB SSD for faster SSD performance (and longer SSD life). Then use external storage if you need more bulk storage, as it’s much less expensive.
the education discount makes it a wash
100% agree, 1TB is the minimum for a lifetime SSD. The less chance there is of filling a drive close to its maximum the longer it will survive.
@@dilbertpugh8517that makes perfect sense, but are any of these computers "lifetime"?... Isn't this going to be obsolete in 3 years?
@@BillySoundFarm well not so much the buyers lifetime as the computers lifetime.
I've only owned Macs with upgradeable parts until now and I'm still running two iMacs, 2011 and 2012, which have been upgraded with 1TB SSDs and just bought a 2017 MacBook Air to which I've added the same as well.
Call me a cheapskate but I love the challenge of keeping things working!
The iMacs are even running Catalina thanks to a hack.
@@dilbertpugh8517 that makes a lot more sense
What does the value prop look like for the Mac Pro M2 Max now in comparison to a MBP M3 18GB RAM?
So, I bought the m2 pro Mac mini last month for music production w/16gb of RAM. I compose music for film and tv and I use mainly midi vst instruments, 3rd party libraries, and drag and drop audio files. Yesterday, I got a notification in Logic Pro X that my RAM was maxed out, and I only had like 4 tracks running on it.
My question is do you think the M2 Max Mac Studio will be a bigger and better jump from what I currently have? And how long do you think it would last me before having to upgrade my computer again? Thanks in advance!
Great vlog, Luke! Could you tell us about the performance difference between 32 gpu cores and 38 gpu cores of m2 Max? Thanks.
Any advice please on spec for general video editing with potential for some 3D work..not sure whether 32 will be enough. Also, 30 or 38 core GPU? Many thanks
Thanks for sharing. I appreciate your thoughts! Blessings on your day!
For normals would say M2 Mac mini in the consumer/desktop would serve them well. For RUclips content creators may want to step up to professional/desktop M2 Mac Studio and only thing I would add is more SSD storage than the 512GB to at least 1TB.
Just wondering what screen/monitor you're running there?
Hey Greg, thanks for the education on the details on this Mac offering! The debate in my camp is: Running purely Logic Pro and Pro Tools, dedicated music production computer, Mac Mini vs Mac Studio: one side is concerned the studio fan is loud. One side is concerned the Mini will obsolete out faster. Im leaning towards the studio M2 Max with 1TB SSD. Care to settle the debate? Thanks for the content!
Thanks for your great video. I have one question though. I just noticed something at 0:25 min. Is the LED really flickering during (SSD)use? Isn‘t that annoying?
good question, I have such led in hub and had to put a stick on it
Glad I've waited for the 2nd generation Mac Studio, thanks for the great review
I purchased the M2 Max last week and linked it to the studio display. LOVE IT
Question for you or for anyone who picked up this model. My Macbook was dying, so I ended up upgrading to this model last week, and it is just excellent and quiet. My main issue has been a 'warm' smell from the back that my wife described as "alkaline." I'm unsure how to describe it, so opt for her description. The first day, I could smell it from my chair (the unit is on the back corner of my desk), but now, after a couple of days of use, I can only smell it if I move right next to the unit. I looked on discussion boards and whatnot, but I haven't found anything about this. Everything runs normally. And some have said this is a 'new computer' smell. I'm wondering if you noticed something similar on your unit?
Hi, I just got the M2 Max Mac Studio with 38 core GPU/64GB/2TB and am waiting for my Studio Display to be delivered--SO excitedt! 😃
How is it? These are the specs I'm considering. I didn't know if I should go to the 38 or not.
Agreed. I got the base model and it exceeded my expectations.
Thank you so much! This was very helpful. I currently use the intel MacBook Pro from 2013, so this will be a worthy upgrade.
Buying Max2 Studio wanted longevity - was thinking of 2T 64gb but not sure if to upgrade GPU from 30 - 38 thoughts??
What if the 27" iMac has a 6K Pro Display XDR panel, or something close to it, and is priced at $5000-6000 including an M2 Max or its successor in the product matrix?
Yep, I highly agree, the M2 Max is insane! Assuming you want in the apple ecosystem. For me, it's more than enough power and I tend to push about 18-24 gb of ram anyways, seeing how the 32gb of ram is perfect, at least for my use. Heck, even the M1 Max is still probably really good!
If you do video encoding the M2 has extra encoders to make it more powerful.
yep i got m2 max 1tb and it loads webpages super quick compared to my old PC. i dont even know how to test the power of this machine.
Replaced my mid 2011 iMac with a M2 Max Mac Studio and a Studio Display. True story, got home and discovered the Apple store sold me an older M1 Max Studio by accident. I got a darn good deal after they corrected it and compensated me for having to drive back and return it. 😉
You could’ve replaced that thing in 2018. You’ve been using an unsupported OS for years. Not smart
@@emilsecker7881 Thanks for your brilliant insight Mr. Obvious. Could of replaced it at anytime. It may of been unsupported but it was working perfectly fine. It's only recently the software that I use started complaining that it was unable to update. I also have an Atari TT030 from 1991 that works. Want to talk about unsupported? lol
@@emilsecker7881 Someone who grew up hacking shit together with GFA Basic does not need a stinking supported system.
I have the base model M1 Studio Max. It is a superb device and my budget won't allow upgrading to the M2, but it isn't necessary because the M1 exceeds all my needs. My workaround to the fan noise was to install the free app Macs Fan Control and manually set the fans to 1100 RPM. The computer maintains 32C and is whisper quiet. Based on my experience I don't think you can go wrong with either the M1 or the M2.
I’m thinking of getting the M1 Max for this reason. Some good bargains out there and it looks as though it has more power than I would ever need
@@aligizzle69 It sure has met all of my needs. Even if my budget allowed I don't think there would be enough of a speed bump to justify trading up, and I don't have use for the improved wi-fi, bluetooth, or HDMI.
@@bryans8656 interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m definitely leaning towards a used M1 Max
Just did that. Refurb from apple base M1 Max Mac Studio, no brainer. (And fast 512 ssd)
@@MrJbbolcato any regrets about not getting the M2?
Would this be good for live streams / OBS?
The good size M1 Ultra with 2TB SSD und 128GB RAM is the same price as a M2 Ultra Base Model. I really thinking about buying it for Software Development
Would be nice to see Mac an update of the Apple 27" display to go with the Studio.
It doesn't have to be 5x5K monitors.
Been able to output to 4 projectors plus a monitor from 1 computer is heaven for us projection designers.
I consider the base to replace my 2019 iMac 5K with i5 and upgraded RX580X with 8GB RAM. There's nothing wrong with the iMac but after switching from 2019 MBP to M1 Air I know how much snappier the M2 will be. Thanks for the review.
Did you swap 2019 iMac for M2 Studio ? Making same decision now
I replaced my aging 27" iMac i7 with the base model Mac Studio M2 MAX with a 1T SSD. I edit using DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.6, iZotope RX 10, with all media on Samsung SSDs. It has been an incredible jump in speed of use. I also use Adobe's Lightroom Classic, Photoshop, Batch, and InDesign. I took a chance with the base model and did not upgrade to 64GB of RAM. So far with all working situations the Mac Studio has not broken a sweat. Your remarks were very helpful in guiding my choice. Thank you.
Hey, Im also an editor but using Premiere Pro. Looking at the M2 Ultra 64gb and 1TB. I was wondering how you find editing from an external ssd? Is there one that you recommend? I have never edit using an external ssd and I worry that it's a bit slow. I mainly edit weddings multicam which requires quite a bit from the pc
I'm still running an IMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017). It still works well but there's a lot of new software (Adobe anyone) that I cannot run. I just today purchased a Studio, M2 Max. I hadn't seen your video before purchasing (it'll be a week before it gets here). But I was really gratified by everything you said and felt that I had indeed purchased the perfect Mac for my needs. Great review, thanks for the peace of mind.
I've had my M1 Mac Studio since April 2022 and never heard the fan. 🤷🏾♂
Thanks!
I think upgrading the SSD to at least 1TB is a must as it doubles the read/write performance (and 512 GB is ridiculously small anyway).
I didn't know that. Apologies for being unaware. Where can I find this information ? Thanks
I don't know about double, but faster. 1 TB is 2 x 512 GB SSD, so double the bus width.
makes no difference with 32gb of ram
I have the Mac Studio M2 - My MacBook Pro M1 16 inch stopped working like 2 weeks after the warrantee was up. It's kind of a scam to force a laptop to have a functioning battery so that you cannot just plug it in and have it work (even with bad battery). So, I had to buy the studio (because it has no battery - to STOP working). No Apple repair where I am. They send it off for 2 months or more. Can you stop working for 2 months while you wait for a computer?
I'm not sure if you meant 'base model' as in the Max instead of the Ultra, but otherwise, the 30 -> 38 core upgrade for a couple hundred bucks seems almost a no-brainer. That's over a 25% increase in GPU power for not a lot of extra money. The 512 GB to 1TB SSD upgrade also gains quite a bit of storage performance, though the base is probably fast enough for most anyway.
Good video. Base Mac Studio M2 Max is a great value.
Does the better performance from 1 TB ssd work only when you are using something like FCPX off the internal SSD or even if using a project that is on an external SSD? I bought the 1 TB SSD version Studio Max 2 and waiting for it to arrive but was wondering , My projects are pretty big and with all my apps and plugins on a 1TB SSD drive, I won't have much free space to edit off the internal SSD. So is that performance better with all tasks anyways no matter where my editing projects are located? Thanks for clearing that up..
So how is it? Did You get it?
@@smgbeats I bought the M2 Studio Max 1TB SSD and 32 gigs of Ram
Yes no fan noise! Great job Apple🎉
I want the imac 30-32" if apple decide to make it. I will buy for sure love the imac
Just ordered it with 64GB of RAM, 1 TB (I have multiple 5 TB external drives), 38 GPU core.. Let's goooo I haven't upgraded my computer since the 2017ish iMac with i7.
When the sponsor segment is 25% of the video. Bro,... :/
I have 2200.00 and am wondering if I should get the M1 Studio Max 64 gigs memory and 1 TB SSD or the M2 32 Gigs Memory and 1 TB SSD? Any suggestions please!!! I have to buy it in the next 2 days Thanks!!! I do mainly FCPX editing, Nothing super long or 2 complicated and currently editing on an M1 Airlock 16 ram and pretty good, but lately getting memory usage warnings often... Thanks!!!
Interesting -- this is around my budget as well and was looking at the M2 Max Mac Studio with 32GB, 1TB -- wondering if that is good or if the 64GB is truly needed. I only occasionally edit family photos or videos and don't do any graphic design or 3D rendering or gaming or music production. The rest is office productivity, browsing, some statistical analysis, large spreadsheet manipulation, Netflix, and writing. I'm thinking the base 32GB will be fine but curious what you went with and your experience.
@@kenl6324 I ended up getting a refurbished M2 Studio Max 1 tb SSD and 32 ram, it has been amazing so far, I edit 4K timelines and do not even need to make proxies and it is buttery smooth playback and all while having photoshop open, 20 pages in my safari browser etc etc... Never even see a spinning beach ball so far.. Best Buy so far. I would rather have 1 Tb ssd over 64 ram.. They state 1 Tb ssd is going to be faster than 512 and 512 Is not enough for me with all my apps, plugins etc etc and 32 ram so far has been plenty!!
What's the best way to migrate programs etc?
Backup with TimeMachine or Carbon Copy Cloner.
yes ok, but the ssd on the base model mac studio m2 max are really slow compared to those mounted on the m1 max. Not for me...
I have the M1Max Mac Studio with Studio display and 42" HDR OLED screen, really hoping for Pro Display XDR 2 in October. Will upgrade to macstudio again when the M3Max version launches
Still debating. But leaning towards the mbp 16. Really just need it for productivity in running a business otr trucking. Maybe to start a RUclips also. Most importantly I’m a big behemoth of a guy. And need somthing heavy and sturdy.
Sounds like the MBP is the right option for you, although you might find the 15” MBA works well.
I just bought this very model, and OMG, this thing is FAST. And I have a 5 camera shoot in 6k BRAW. Not a stutter.
512 GB storage / 32Gb Ram version?
@@andykar13 yes, from Costco
I'll look at a base model M1 Max Studio now that they'll be cheaper after the release of M2 Max Studio.
Add the 1TB SSD
Seems this is the best overall mac at the moment
What are some good monitors to go with it? Apples is kinda pricey lol
If you can afford a Mac Studio, you can afford a studio display
MacOS has terrible scaling support for standard display resolutions (like 4k). So, you need to buy Studio display or Pro Display XDR. You voluntarily bought the non-upgradable/repairable box from Apple, now you've to follow their rules.
If you go with a 2K monitor, like the ASUS ProArt, your resolution won't be a good (of course) but they scale perfectly with the Studio.
Any good 4k (or higher) HDMI display will work. I would recommend looking for a 90%+ DCI-P3, 10-bit HDR display using an IPS panel if you want something that’s even close to the Studio display. Large OLED panels are still expensive and have potential burn-in issues. If you don’t care about HDR, a good 8bit IPS panel with 85%+ DCI-P3 and good color accuracy (low delta-E) is a good option.
get the new samsung oled 49" ultrawide. i saw it on sale for $1700, like $500 off
Buy the M3 base model it will be the best value. Waiting for next gen. I bought M1 but skipping M2.
Me too.
I think the Mac Studio really is Apple's "new Mac Pro". They just decided not to call it a "Mac Pro" because after the misstep of the 2013 Pro, and the subsequent back peddling they did with the 2019 Mac Pro, Apple felt it was better to simply create a new nameplate in order to not invite comparisons. Though at this point, I think it's pretty obvious the era of the expandable Mac is basically over. I would be surprised if the Silicon Pro is not discontinued altogether sooner than later, now that Apple has kept their promise of migrating it too.
No the M2 Extreme was planned for the new MacPro. But we know it failed and a new CPU Architecture takes 5 years to develop. And i hear nothing anymore about the 3nm process from TSMC getting better (over the 40 yield) anymore.
I actually think the naming is pretty clever. Studio versus professional. Studio is a small team who needs a lot of processing power versus a Hollywood Studio who needs access to stuff like PCI slots and very niche requirements. Professional equipment (in that sense of the word) has so many crazy things that are so insanely expensive for relatively mundane things. So Studio I think makes sense. Even though it is just marketing...
@@llothar68 tough to say. ...and yea, a new architecture does take 5+ years to develop, but you're assuming they don't pipeline these things (start the next architecture, while they're still working on the first), which they certainly do. It's possible that they expected to have an "extreme" chip, one which "required" the big tower form factor. But I think there is more to this story than that. Clearly, looking at the hack job they did adding PCIe, I don't think they had real plans to create a serious Mac Pro. Because if they did, the M architecture would support PCIe as a first class citizen, which it doesn't. The way they pushed this product out (just talking feature set here) it really doesn't look like they have any real commitment to platform.
@@jambononi I like the Studio name. I just think Apple's main motivation was specifically to avoid comparisons to previously expandable so-called "Pro" products. I've also ways like upgradable products, but Apple is clearly against it, and if they are going to offer it, they are going to shake you down to give it to ya.
7:00 THAT is crazy!! 😅
I don't usually give manufacturers a pass but the HDMI port was probably the older version because of supply chain constraints
Late reply, but I guess it was due to chips being designed before they realised people would care (or yeah, they saw supply chain issues and decided it's safer to downgrade else they might not be able to produce em).
I don't understand in what application you would want 5 monitors? I wish instead they had more ports to connect older gear, such as Firewire and Thunderbolt 2. So much expensive gear that will end up in a landfill because of Apple's constant changes and lack of backwards compatibility.
Oh I would love if I could afford the studio display and the base level max studio. I have the base level M1 MacBook Pro 14"
Now that it has a modern HDMI port, I’ll just wait for next years’s model to get this year’s model cheaper lol. Not in any rush
From 85 fps to 102 fps, it’s a +20% jump (not +17%) 😉
100% agree, unless you need the extra performance now, the base model is the way to go.
I see one potential fatal flaw with its design: how do you clean it?
It's a stationary roomba, how do you extract years of sucked-in dust?
I doubt you have right to repair on this product, for such a simple thing as chronic dust accumulation that simply needs a can of air spray, but there's no way to open it up either at home or a local service store, so you'll have no choice but to mail it back to the manufacturer, only to be advised you should purchase the next model through an exchange discount program.
I see a long-con, am I right?
Apple needs to make the Mac Pro more expandable and customizable. It should have upgradable and expandable RAM and storage, not the same SoC that their smaller systems have. So should the Studio, for that matter. Would their ARM-based system performance suffer greatly from offering this? If so, is it really a worthwhile transition? I like their Mx Macs for their efficiency, but I don't like how it's increasingly a hermetically sealed gizmo that you're expected to simply dispose of rather than open up and tinker with. It's a step in the wrong direction for home PCs.
We don't do that here.
Yep. External RAM, more PCIe lanes, and at least two 4xPCIe m.2 NVMe SSD slots. The RAM is not on-die anyway, so it’s more a matter of packaging and bringing those memory channels off chip and putting DIMM slots on the motherboard.
Also, figure out how to offer a quad “Max” CPU.
Make it a real Pro class machine. It’s a good machine as is, but offers almost nothing over the Studio, while costing $3000 more for the same configuration. Makes for a very expensive, large, and heavy case currently.
Of course, they don’t want to do that as it would demonstrate they could easily support external RAM, and the chip would be more expensive because of the larger packaging and extra pins. But it would make it a Pro class machine.
@@geoffstrickler Yep! Also, they don't even support graphics cards in this new Mac Pro, right? At least not for driving displays? That's nuts.
@@ericwood3709 I sort of agree, but since the Ultra chip supports at least 5 displays, I don't think that's a huge issue. Definitely need to support/allow Nvidia/AMD graphics cards for compute purposes
@@geoffstrickler I would think it would also allow for higher performance and, most significantly, upgradability. Why replace the entire system to get faster graphics a few years down the road? It's a limitation that doesn't need to be there in a tower form factor.
Bravo greg!
The Mrs has just bought the new Specced up 15”Air with 16/512gb and I am feeling a little left out...Will this be light years ahead for video edits or would it be splitting hairs for my none professional needs even if i do want it.😂
It would be faster, but not drastically for most purposes. If you use blender, or other tasks that are GPU bound, the Studio would be much better, but for most purposes, even most video editing, it’s only going to be “somewhat” faster. In the more extreme cases, the Studio might be 2x as fast, but typical case will be 10%-30% faster
The one notable difference is that the Studio won’t thermally throttle on long tasks like the Air will. But in almost all cases, that’s less than 20% difference in time.
@@geoffstrickler Thanks for taking your time to answer,Maybe the Mini Pro will more than enough for my needs.
Genuinely was confused cause I saw the Mac Studio thinking it was a Mac mini and I saw M2 Max chip and I’m like huh??!
I just picked one up refurbished, 32 gigs of ram and 1Tb SSD, they are already on the refurbished site if anybody is interested...
How is it so far?
The problem I have with the new silicon based Mac is the non replaceabilty of the ssd which is also tied to the t2 chip. How malicious is that. It’s the hardware version of malware. Although the trash can is way out of date now, looking back on it, feels like that machine is a dream compared to anything with Apple silicon in it.
We’ve all dreamed of a trash can Mac that works… that’s would be great if they could do it
Looking forward to get the M2 Max 1TB 64GB model to replace my MacMini (late 2012). So I guess the music & video production will be a little more efficient than before.
why 64GB instead of 32GB? How much GB do you have in old one? my situation is similar I have 2013 iMac and see no hope for larger iMac this year...
@@hugonot2008 I have 16GB in the old MacMini. But since I'm planning to keep it for at least 10 years and want to do multicam editing & multicam livestreaming in the future it seems to be the better option for me. If you don't do heavy video editing or streams I think the 32GB will ok.
I have a hard time with the M2 Max studio because you can get an M2 Max in the MacBook Pro 😮
Too long of a front end advertising pitch 🤦🏻♂️
so what you're really saying is wait for the m3 base to have better performance than the m2 ultra.
Good video, but I kind of disagree with the point you made that the M2 Mac Studio is better value than the 16 inch MacBook Pro. Sure you get the little additions you mention like slightly better performance, more ports, etc. But for $1k more the MPB adds an amazing 16 inch XDR display (for me this is already worth the 1k difference, since Apple sells the 32 inch Pro Display XDR for $5k), better speakers, a pretty good keyboard, an amazing trackpad, and the ability to work wherever you want without needing to be plugged in. I mean if you bought the mac studio, and a mediocre monitor, speakers, trackpad and keyboard that would already be an extra $500. I'm saying this because I've been using the M1 Pro base model 14 inch MBP since release and I'm amazed how for $2k you get an all included workhorse machine that you can use without needing to buy anything extra and it just works so well and has an amazing display. I really think a lot of people underestimate the display, speakers, trackpad and keyboard on MBPs and that they should be taken into account when considering the value of the product.
I bought the 12-core mac mini pro when it first came out early this year... now I'm pissed.
You shouldn’t be. It’s still a great machine
I would too, for the same price you can get the mac studio base model.
LOL
@@kelvinlau09 u should wait for the m3... that's gonna be a giant leap forward.
@@minigiant8998 I definitely will upgrade to M3 next year if Apple can close the gap of gaming and 3D from PC.
Good video, but too long sponsor add.
I envy Jim.
The M3 mac studio will move even closer to instantous video and photo editing, and when we see the M4 debuts we may be reaching instant editing of most media. It's doubtful if 8k or 16k will be future formats, and if so they will stodge up any future processor howcever fast. Watching reviews lately, power differences between M1 and M2 studio are hardly ground breaking, but certain users will benefit from the upgrade speed. There will always be those at the front end upgrading with every new machine release, but mortals like me will work with their M1 device. I think the end game is instantous performance, then what will need to be faster?
I doubt we will see an M4. Maybe a N1. The current CPU design hit a limit. And 8k is already a future proof format. I hear from many teams that commericals are now done all in 8k, thats where the money is. Not sure that 16k will ever come.
@llothar68 I'm still on 4k, so inless y ou have an 8k monitor or tv , how will you view that extra resolution, inless you have amazing eye sight that can absorb all that detail. Maybe improvements in audio are on the cards but beyond 8k looks unlikely, inless a 10k format arrives. Based on 4k I think the M3 max chip will chomp through video in near real time.
@@frazerweb Just get 4x 4k and you are good to go. We are talking about video monitor walls here, concerts/events, cinemas (yes movies are still mostly rendered in 2k but the projectors are often 8k already) or large buildings with outdoor screens. 8k is not for private persons as i said. But the Dell 8k monitor was for sale two years ago for 1200 Euro. Dont know that it costs regular now. For home usage the 600W per display made me pass. Also i need a KVM triple monitor switch.
Even 4k is still an absurd overkill for the most part. In any case the M2 Max Studio baseline is more than what 99% of what mortals need even if you edit some 4k.
@@cactusjackNVlol spot on. Everyday I watch so many 1080p videos on RUclips or elsewhere and then suddenly switch to a 4k one and I’m like “hey what’s the difference?”. Heck even a 720p video looks superb on Apple-designed displays (e.g iPhone, iPad, mbp etc) nowadays if the footage was shot with a decent camera.
Heck…just watch some Linus Tech Tips videos at 360p on the iPhone 14 Pro Max and you will see what I mean.
I would be anal about 2k, 3k, 4k etc only when it comes to playing big budgets games and high end, complex flight simulators but I do none of that on Macs.
Love the new M2 Mac Studio especially the edu pricing $ 1799
in US edu procong is very good, but in the rest of world not neccessary
@@ThatGuyOverThereWeird ticket from here to US will only increase the price, there are no easy solutions
@@ThatGuyOverThereWeird Which states are those? I thought Florida had no tax but lately almost everyone is charging taxes if bought on the web and sent there...?
@@ThatGuyOverThereWeird You actually have to be a student or educator though to get edu pricing.
Super ❤❤
The Studio is an awesome value, if you need the power and RAM. But beware... your wife might be angry, when she finds out, that your Mac mini has somehow grown through some mysterious magic. 😄
Mine has not... Yet
@@sparacin Nor mine.
Good honest review amidst a million M2 Ultra reviews… just ordered a a modest upgrade to the base spec M2 Max with 38Core GPU / 64GB / 1Tb. Really helpful video for us non video workflow creatives 👍🏼
"Modest" I hate people humble bragging on the internet lmaoo
So, when talking about how much cheaper the Mac Studio is to the MacBook Pro, you seriously didn’t think about the screen? Wow.
Wait for the M3.
Gooood
The transition is incomplete without an iMac. An iMac Pro to be exact.
The 27" iMac was replaced by MacStudio + Studio Display. If they sell them together even fanboy people would realize that they raised the price by $800.
@@llothar68 You don't think there will ever be a high powered Imac?
@@mededmoon6265 I don't think so. They said on the WWDC that their portfolio (not the transformation) is now complete.
Pretty sure the iMac Pro is dead…for now anyway. They MAY introduce another 27”-30” iMac, but I wouldn’t suggest holding your breath because the rumors say it’s not coming.
@@geoffstrickler Just got a leak on MAXTECH channel that the iMac m3 is confirmed. Go figure the day after I post my comment something like that would leak.
Mac Studio video with Mac mini thumbnail. 🤣
can this be connected to an imac?
No?
No lol. Buy the Studio Display.
Why HDMI (for TV), instead of DP (for monitor displays) and why 8k, where Apple‘s macOS just even supports 2560x1600 only and not even 5k (just quadrupling every pixel😂)? Those engineers are crazy (or their business controller counterparts).
I think the sweetspot is Mac Studio M2 Max with SSD upgraded to 1 or 2 TB. 32 GB RAM should work great for all "semi pros" and "prosumers".
Maybe - MAYBE - that 64 GB RAM will be good to pay for if you plan to use that Mac Studio for 5-10 years or more. Futureproofing.
But I feel that it's much better to spend the extra money on larger SSD in Mac Studio than more RAM if you wanna have a "good deal".
What I think about is swapping on the SSD. With 64 GB RAM you can run Mac Studio really really heavy and no swap on the SSD. With 32 GB there's gonna be no or pretty little swapping at "pretty heavy load".
I'm really glad that M2 Max starts with 32 GB RAM and that it cannot be downgraded.
I'm planning to buy a new desktop Mac soon and Mac Studio with upgraded SSD looks like the best model and configuration for me. I think everybody should buy Mac Studio with at least 1 TB SSD. You gonna fill that 512 GB SSD so fast! The upgrade to 1 TB SSD is not that expensive.
I also feel that "M2 Max with more GPU cores" is not worth the money for average users. If you're a real PRO user you gonna go for M2 Ultra anyways with 2x cores :)
M2 Ultra is "M2 Max Duo". Everything is doubled! Even RAM.
The only sad thing is the strong US dollar. That makes ALL Macs more expensive in other countries. I don't know if all or most tech youtubers from USA are aware of that...
The strong US dollar - is - a big problem. Apple's products are kind of expensive because of that - outside USA of course. All Mac customers in USA are lucky of course!
so 32GB or 64GB? which version you decided to purchase? and which monitor? Apple Display Studio?
Not bought it yet. And that monitor is too expensive. I might go for 32 GB but not sure...
@@cjeelde yes, ASD is very expensive,. I hope that 32GB is enogh, taking into acont that mini has 8GB, but I am not sure. I tride to compare power consumption M2 Pro mini and Mac Studio
I've watched some videos about 32 vs 64 GB RAM for M1/M2 and it's "impossible" to start swapping on the SSD with 64 GB. 32 GB seems to swap at least a little with really heavy workload. 32 GB is much better than 8 GB RAM.
Mac Mini M2 = up to 150 watts
Mini M2 Pro = up to 185 watts
Mac Studio = up to 370 watts
Compare this with Mac Pro that can use up to 1280 watts! The base model at normal usage by an average user will use way less than that. 1280 watts is probably with many PCI cards and heavy workload.
@@cjeelde Thanks a lot. I am still working on iMac late 2013 - heavily consumption is 139W, when I change it to ASD + Studio power consumption will seems to be much higher, but 24" iMac is too small for me...
The mac pro just looks like a huge cheese grader lol Great video!
I bought the M2 Ultra Studio a few months ago (now ancient with the M3 Ultra coming 😭) but can someone explain to me WTF the speakers suck worse than the speakers on my iPhone?! Answer me Apple! W.T.FFFF. 😂