Jenann Ismael - What is the Origin of the Laws of Nature?
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From the fusion of stars to the evolution of life, the world works because the laws of nature or physics make things happen. Our universe as a whole may have come into existence through the laws of quantum physics. But from where did the laws of quantum physics come? Have they always existed?
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Jenann Ismael is the William H. Miller III Professor of Philosophy at Johns Hopkins University and a member of the Foundational Questions Institute (FQXi).
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A "story" never really ends. We can always tell another story about it and confirm the best story.
You need to stop at a certain point, whether you end up with matter, consciousness or whatever lies at the fundamental level of reality.
Brilliant. We need more, a lot more, of Jenann Ismael. Isn't human logic simply a pale reflection of the more obvious regularities in reality?
🤔 You made me think...
Who feels the same as me that when question was asked, there was no answer answered
absolutely, and also nothing original in her statements if you have basic literacy in physycs/quantum mechanics. Can't understand the hype of some commentators here.
@@LuigiSimoncini I find many of those interviewed answer this way. One possible reason is these habitually use the art of language yo weasel their way out to earn a living. Like politicians, lawyers and charlatans
@@1stPrinciples455 also the fact that the questions are often impossible to answer
This is awesome! That is a huge and very original thought.
So good. Thank you!
such a melodious voice
The road is full of randomness but the destination is inevitable. It is always the context that rules and inevitability is the only criteria to recognize it. This applies to everything, life and not life, cosmos, psychology, history etc
Awareness is known by awareness alone.
i cant belive only half a mil this channel have of subscribers
Just read her book A very short introduction to Time!
value is fundamental
To say that some things just happen… I mean whether it seems more “regular” or seems more diverse or “irregular, either way the happening of anything at all is itself the issue. It doesn’t matter what or how it is, all that matters is that it is… why? The profundity of anything existing at all is the same level.
Excellent interview and discussion of a very complex topic. I just wish it was longer. Is there possibly a link to the whole original video?
This interview wasn't part of a full episode, but if you search "What is the Origin of the Laws of Nature?" on our channel, you can see all the other contributors who gave mini-interviews under this question!
@@CloserToTruthTVThank you 😊
When you ignore the reality of time, you are not closer to truth. You are right on pseudoscience. Our star the sun is the truth.
Chance is but a name for Law not recognized; there are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the Law
- The Kybalion
I would love to see an interview about consciousness with physicist Tom Campbell ✌
The fact that the way things work can only be predicted with a degree of probability, alludes, not to the fact that things happen by chance and necessity, but to the fact that our understanding of things is sorely deficient or even, horribly defective - in other words… what we so easily tout as ‘knowledge’, really does not count as what Francis Schaeffer called ‘TRUE KNOWLEDGE’, only because absolute certitude lies beyond the scope of human conception
Karl Popper put it very nicely… “What we should do, I suggest, is to give up the idea of ultimate sources of knowledge, and admit that all knowledge is human; that it is mixed with our errors, our prejudices, our dreams, and our hopes; that all we can do is to grope for truth even though it be beyond our reach”
The apostle Paul described what we call ‘knowledge’ as nothing more than ‘knowledge falsely so-called’ - 1Tim 6:20
And thinking themselves wise, they became fools
@@jarrettesselman8144 Indeed!
_”Horribly defective”._ Really? Have you looked around, per chance, at the technology that exists all around you? Can you explain how all these things, all this creativity and inventiveness are the fruit of a _”horribly defective”_ way of understanding the world?
@@longcastle4863 “explain the creation” lol.
@@longcastle4863 Utility does not imply Truth, nor is it even concerned with Truth
"I'm surprised there is regularity" I never thought of this.
When 10 commendments was given like directory line principals, that mins even creation obey some lows, ethernal, which correspond to other more superior, transcendental lows.
Some of the answers by the experts on this channel leave me goggle-eyed. I'm sure the problem is mostly that intellectually I'm just not up to it. Here though the lady explains a complex topic very clearly. Many thanks.
There seems to be necessity for order (laws) to avoid total chaos. How that originated is a question for science and especially metaphysics to ponder.
The thing I couldn't quite understand - At a craps table, individual rolls of the dice are unpredictable, but over time, the probability distribution is so predictable that the casino can guarantee a profit by setting the betting odds. Even a "perfect" selection of bets by the player will lose over the long run. Are the totality of causes and effects of the universe the same or different? Is the outcome similarly close to deterministic over time?
The "laws of nature" arise from constraints that form in patterns of dynamical relationships.
The constraints determine what is possible logically.
Right from the opening statement by RLK you knew this was gonna be good. And it didn't disappoint. So was quantum entanglement always there?
Yes it was. It is the Universe's way of "the left hand knowing what the right hand is doing". Just can't seem to make that happen in this "local universe"...
When pseudo scientist say quantum entanglement what they are referring to is time. Electromagnetism is a property of time. Gravity. We experience time through our star the sun.
Time is the fabric of the universe. Time has always been present.
@@festeradams3972 this local universe is the only universe. multi-verse is an oxymoron. Time is the fabric of the universe. Time is the universe. The universe is time. we experience time through our star, the sun.
I was referring to Homo Sapiens, i.e. us.....@@tyroneallen7857
Awesome interview. As some others have commented thinking there’s an underlying agenda simply because she won’t cave to a specific explanation because she’s pushing a theistic answer, I completely disagree. I think her answer is honest, clear and not motivated towards a specific narrative. Nothing she said is untrue. The underlying principles cannot themselves be explained as a perfectly stochastic-based or deterministic-based system. Interesting property.
Gibberish! The answer is time. The explanation for everything is time. We experience time through our star the sun. KNOW*KNOW observations. Read more nonfiction. This video is pseudoscience. Pseudoscience is her agenda. The remedy is to read more non-fiction. Dictionary. Encyclopedia. Put down the pseudoscience and study phonetics.
(5:30) *JI: **_"Explanation is a complex concept."_* ... This is the type of response you get from highly sophisticated people who have formed 90% of a working hypothesis with the remaining 10% being problematic. When asked _"Why are we here?"_ Richard Dawkins had a similar response with, _"It's a silly question."_ The irony is that people like this (me included) have an epiphany on the fundamental side of existence that cannot be carried all the way through.
... *Everyone get frustrated to discover "Existence" isn't playing by their rulebook.*
That's what leads me to believe that "Existence" fundamentally covered all its bases. It's neither deterministic, driven by chance, nor perfectly orchestrated, but rather a balanced mixture of all. The reason why we experience conditions such as chance, order, logic, chaos, orchestration, determinism, and free will is because all of these conditions were built into the core structure of "Existence."
Trying to explain how any of these conditions don't really exist when we experience them all on a daily basis forces one to say, _"Explanation is a complex concept."_
Great interview, but what the heck was going on inside- sounded like they were moving furniture around in there or something. I tried to concentrate on the conversation, and I was able to, for the most part, but I thought it was a little humorous that they couldn't arrange for a quieter set. Jenann Ismael: "So, explanation is a complicated concept- to explain something, you always have to explain it" "from something else."
Not sure if I missed the bit where anything was explained in this clip..
you didn't, better than 70% of the videos of the channel where the explanation ends up being some god or other supernatural thing though
wouldn't the regularity arise as emergent properies?
I wonder if she has read William Gibson's "Pattern Recognition" or Niel Stephenson's "System of Worlds" books?
I didn't exactly understand Jenanns LAST argument, but the interview clip was engaging and compelling..
You will kneel before Christ and be judged. You will proclaim Him as lord.
@@jarrettesselman8144I don’t think she put it in quite those words exactly.
@@simonhibbs887 lol
One thing I find interesting about our species and our way of perceiving things is that so many of us always seem to get so hung up on a "creator of all things" of some kind. Because we see a person comes from two other people, we think that this is the way of all things and that there must have been a "supreme source" or a being (or beings) that we all must have come from. It's as if our minds can't possibly imagine the possibility that maybe there wasn't a "source" at all. To me, the argument for a "creator" makes no sense when you really follow the logic. Who creates the creator, then? You could ask that question forever.
In that thread, to say that the creator "just always was" makes as much as sense as saying there isn't a creator at all and answers nothing. What if we consider the possibility existence just "was" and there was no grand origin for it all? Why do so many people vehemently reject that possibility? What are we so afraid of that we would rather resort to believing in an "infinite" magical being that was created all things and can defy the laws of the universe? And why is it that this infinite being who can supposedly do whatever it wants is only able to create temporary things in this universe? Where are the infinite objects that never end that it created? Why are the laws of the universe able to be deduced but a supreme magical being gets a pass just because it's supposed to be supreme and magical?
That is very clearly not how the universe works and I feel that we are just believing things that we want to believe to make us feel better and feel like we are being watched over in some way. I think the very plain truth is that we only have each other and we should be treating each other with kindness and respect and working together to learn about our amazing universe. This planet isn't going to last long with our consumerist habits so we best work together to figure out how to live amongst the stars when this planet no longer becomes habitable because no magical being is going to make that happen for us. It's up to us and us alone.
That is an excellent summary of a universe view that I agree with totally. John Lennon also summed it brilliantly in the song “Imagine”.
This guy like so many of the religious, just wants a cute story to put a "Bow" on their belief system. Make's em' feel good, the church hierarchy collects money and maintains Political Control. They handle the question of "well He's always been here". With that, they just hope to head-off making excuses for "HIm" (or Her, or It...). Another Observation with this "Host" like so many others. Anything they put out on their "Channel" IS subject to review and criticism. I, in the memory of Christopher HItchens, have a lot of questions for him...I'm not holding my breath on that one:-).
@festeradams3972 Did you READ the OPs comment, friend?
"I think the very plain truth is that we only have each other and we should be treating each other with kindness..."
You are moving away from the Western notion of a theistic artefact Universe towards the Eastern notion of a non-theistic process-driven organic Universe. Having recognised our inability to fathom and understand the process driving the Universe, non-theistic philosophies such as Buddhism and Taoism have been promoting kindness as a way of Life for at least the past 5,000 years...
Zer0dave, I think you summed it up.. Well said. Peace.
In other words, ontological randomness/chance/uncertainty is as fundamental as regularity/necessity/certainty in quantum reality. These fundamental opposites complement each other - form a dialectical union, and they should not be separated from each other; otherwise, we will get exaggerations.
Students, especially physics students, should be taught the main and irrefutable principle of dialectics: Every sustainable thing is a union of partial opposites. Recall the yin and yang symbol. Is it refutable? Do we know why there is the black dot in the white "droplet" and the white dot in the black "droplet"? The union of partial opposites is expressed there.
Honestly, though, that sounds more like philosophy as opposed to science, yes?
@@Bill..N (1) The determinism versus indeterminism controversy is not a pure science; it is also a philosophy. (2) In philosophy, a scientist can find proper methodology for science. (3) The yin and yang symbol expresses the generalisation of Chinese sages' observations, not speculative ideas.
Minkowski Space & Causality?
If you can think it or say it, that’s not it. Such sophisticated words to explain nothing and end up nowhere.
I keep jumping between the belief of free-will and the non-existence of said. I was on the side of non existence of man's free-will, now after hearing this I'm confused again. Help! Free-will is probabilistic but not having free will seems to get messy since the initial state then has divergence from its initial path and have a large numbers of new opportunities. Then how could not having free will have a high probabilistic value?
I hope my reply to a challenge from William Lane Craig helps…
You are correct - man has indeed been endowed with a WILL… However, because man is either enslaved to sin or enslaved to righteousness (Rom 6:15-18), his will is not ‘FREE’ in the (Libertarian) sense as you think - to wit…
As the faculty of choice, the human will is nothing but a property of the CONSCIOUS MIND - the will is NOT an autonomous, independent ‘noetic agency’ as you (and in fact, every Physicalist out there) in effect intend - there is no autonomous ‘AI bot’ located somewhere inside our craniums that is somehow able to ‘objectively perceive’ things and then ‘independently decide/choose’ things for us - the will possesses no self-determining power whatsoever!
We find ourselves ineluctably and unavoidably (thank the Lord!) caught up in a causal universe where absolutely everything that IS and everything that HAPPENS, only exists and only happens because it was in some way caused by some antecedent cause - “Ex nihilo nihil fit” - nothing cannot produce something, or, to put it differently… something is always the result (or the outcome or the effect) of some cause
But, and here’s the rub… not only do things never ‘JUST HAPPEN’, nor do things ever ‘SPONTANEOUSLY POP INTO EXISTENCE’ a se, things also NEVER OPERATE/FUNCTION RANDOMLY - particle physicists have long since proven Heisenberg wrong!
So, everything is somehow always caused and things are always ordered in some way - all things, both physical as well as metaphysical, uniformly operate to certain laws/rules/principles/axioms that can be expressed mathematically that allows us to explain the past, interpret the present and apprehend the future (do science, exchange ideas, reason, do math, pen music, balance our cheque books, have this conversation…) In other words… everything is causally determined and all things somehow beautifully harmonise together in an orderly, law-like fashion - in ‘Bible speak’… “all things are by Him, because of Him, for His glory” (Rom 11:36) and “in Him, all things hang together” (Col 1:16,17)
It is only because God and His revelation is THE TRUTH (not just ‘probably true’ as Bill Craig contends) and because the Truth (with a capital ‘T’) is supernaturally revealed to us through Christ as the Logos, that things are at all intelligible (NOT because we are able to inductively interpret and assess the ‘facts’/‘evidence’ for ourselves as Bill Craig insists) - Rom 3:4!
The exact same principle applies to the HUMAN WILL - something ALWAYS influences (or ‘directs’ or ‘determines’) the choice exercised by the will (ie every choice can always be qualified by a “because” - it can always be said that “I chose this or that BECAUSE of this reason or that reason”)
The will therefore is always the servant of something, and since the will cannot be both sovereign and servant (the will cannot be both cause and effect), causal determinism is simply an ineluctable fact of our universe and of us (thank the Lord - a universe not sovereignly determined by the One who is God over all can only result in an unimaginable dystopia!)
Since we do possess a WILL, our choices do not reduce to fatalism… Moreover, because the will is always determined, it therefore cannot be said that our will is ‘free’ in the Libertarian sense!
Examining the causal chain further, we then have to ask… what determines the will which causes it to choose? Answer: the action of the will is determined by that condition of the MIND which in turn, is either determined by the Devil or by God the Spirit who excites volition within us - “For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit” - Rom 8:5
Ultimately, Paul gives us the fatal defeater for Autonomianism in his letter to the Philippians… “it is GOD (not you or me or anyone or anything else) who works in us to will and to act in order to fulfil his good purpose” - Phil 2:13
So, while we are MORALLY RESPONSIBLE, we are NOT MORALLY ACCOUNTABLE - Rom 9:11 (BTW - this does not permit Antinomianism - Rom 6!) - ‘laws’ of all kinds, of all sorts and of all stripes (including, and in fact, ESPECIALLY God’s Law) therefore, are not PRESCRIPTIVE but DESCRIPTIVE - laws reveal something of God to us… laws speak to the glory of God!
Random chance creates unpredictability but not free will.
Lots of things are possible, and you decide what to do - but you can't decide what you will decide.
@@bozo5632 That sounds interesting - please explain…
@@osks I think the problem is with the understanding of what "you" is. We are not just the conscious mind. The unconscious is more important. It makes most of the decisions and the conscious mind invents a rationale, and that's what you remember. So it's not the you that you are conscious of that has free will.
The surprising thing about reality is that different points of view, diversity in thought, is what gives answers to or applications to different subjects. Look at crispr. The invention of radio. Without the Curies' mining of pitchblend and refining it to get radium where would nuclear science be?
The meaning of things hides more than it reveals. It takes an interest in many fields to deepen or widen the meaning that we currently hold. Such interest may not be enough, so experimentation is required. Sometimes political revolution is required to stop the experimenters in their wanton tracks. As is said existence precedes essence/knowledge.
When knowledge threatens existence, as in the old movie "The Thing From Another World", the egg heads need to step down.
The creators of the sim we exist in made them. Then they patched errors using constants.
Respectfully, that is an odd idea.. Perhaps humor was intended?
*"The creators of the sim we exist in made them. Then they patched errors using constants."*
... Did the creators of the sim that houses the creators of the sim that we're in do the same thing? What about the sim creators before them? ... and the sim creators before them? (Infinite regression goes here)
@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Ha! I love it when we agree..
does the fact that the same is different then it must be harmonic
As I recall from physics 101, Boltzman and others developed the theory of entropy and the laws of thermodymics to explain how variations in atomic motion can “average out” to produce constant levels of pressure, energy, and other physical parameters. So probabilities do not amplify each other in most cases - they average out. There is also the fundamental problem of measurement. Try measuring the distance to the moon with a yardstick - while the earth and moon are both rotating and moving in their orbits. There is no physical system ANYWHERE that can always be measured to give exactly the same result every time. So I guess what Jennan is saying might be probably true at least sometimes.
You guess? You wouldn’t have to guess if time were the main subject of your comment. Time is the fabric of the universe. We experience time through our star the sun. Time is the reason and cause of the laws of nature. Our star of the sun is nature. Time is nature.
Are we going to get new laws of nature as living being revolve???
Is there evolution of Non Loving things too?
@Mentaculus42 Absolutely, but that understanding should be devoid of any memory.
it is the will of higher beings
Is it just me or does it sound like she’s got a god explanation hidden away under the table & she doesn’t want to share it with us?
Not just you, but then again, as I've pointed many times; all he wants is some metaphysical confirmation of his "Nice Story" so we can all sleep well, and not have to ponder such things...
What's interesting to me is that her theory could almost explain how God could come into existence in the first place.
I’m not ruling out some sort of God, Source or will that transcends the physical world
Any time I hear 'first principles' that's what I think too. Very small leap from first principles to first cause.
Human conscious would define the laws of nature, which would get changed depending upon the system and surroundings.
She seems to be giving laws of nature causal powers by making them the most fundamental. But aren't laws of nature really just abstract/psychological generalizations?
As pattern seeking creatures, we have a natural recoil to the idea of randomness. Randomness is at the core of adaptatiing to change. Could evolutionary principles apply to everything? Energy pushes back against entropy via some organization, but entropy gets the last word. Randomness is.
Homo sapiens will be the creatures that others will discuss 100K years from now.
Yes we do seek patterns, I don't think it's randomness that is the core of adaptation rather probability now the probability of life is 1 in 10^ 2,685 000 so no accidents, also at the end of entropy their might be a new universe according to penrose and accordance with 1st law of thermodynamics.What we see is 5% so much we don't know
@soundflo I don't accept your numbers. Randomness is utterly unpredictable. You must be using the definition of life on earth only. And yes, we know little due to randomness. Without randomness, life would have existed for a very short period of time. Random mutations are essential to create adaptive genotypes via trial and error. Gases are organizing into stars, while stars are dying, as I'm writing. There is no plan. There is no oversight. I wish I had better news.
On the other hand, without random mutations, we wouldn't exist. Think about the randomness of genes, crossing over, during meiosis, then the random sperm fertilizing the random egg at a random time. It's stunning that you and I actually exist. If randomness appears to counter meaning, it doesn't have to. BUT that's a different discussion.
@@gooddaysahead1 No one knows where the energy came from the big bang it may have been a previous universe? , during these stages entropy would have been lower as it expands we need higher entropy to get stars and planets I don't like the word randomness I prefer disorder and eventually the universe will abide by the 3rd law of thermodynamics when energy and entrophy reach a equilibrium and maybe start another universe, if you look at quantum mechanics it's probalistic not random, classical physics is deterministic no randomness, we can tell by how much the universe is expanding, with regards to my point about life on earth the probilities of us existing are extremely low, adding how far the sun is, dark energy, oxygen levels and many other factors you can see why existence itself is a miracle, looking at genes bad genes will just fall off, look at mate selection in humans and see how selective women are I heard the egg now picks the sperm either way so many species of died out are we that important, the universe is probalistic, relative and in flux not absolute or random for the most part its pretty predictable, we have about 37 trillion cells and 1 cell has 15 million bits of data organised in intricate ways to give us consciousness which is a whole other rabbit hole, I think it would be ignorant of both of us to assume we know, like I said the billions of galaxies we see only make up 5% but I enjoy these conversations
4:48 JI _“If you’re looking at the universe as a four-dimensional manifold of events, and you recognize that the universe is indeterministic, then there’s a kind of sprinkling of irregularity also along the time-like dimension.”_
Jenann Ismael and Robert Lawrence Kuhn, a simpler approach is to recognize that only the _events_ in the manifold have experimental meaning, and thus form the actual fabric of reality. The smooth, infinitely differentiable spacetime manifold in which they are embedded is not and never can be, anything more than a math-only interpolation between real events.
Interestingly, the ultraviolet energy limits of quantum mechanics constrain the density of experimentally detectable events in a region of space, since tracking every point of every particle requires a light so bright and so high-frequency that any object would be instantly snuffed out of existence.
But think on that a bit: If the number of events occurring within any normal, non-obliterated system is finite, then the smooth predictability of xyzt spacetime becomes nothing more than a mathematical interpolation. It is a creation of math, not of reality.
Conversely, quantum probabilities pop out not from superpositions of existing states, but from the divergences created by forcibly mapping grainy, low-resolution Lamport-parallel events to fit into the too-smooth, math-only interpolation of xyzt for that grainy collection of events.
Ironically, the mathematically fabricated smoothness of spacetime hides in plain sight, created not by experimental physics but by our insistence on making our math models of a grainy world more real than the world itself. We create massive multi-country particle colliders to peer closer into the fabric of xyzt space, yet manage to forget that such details exist only in the presence of mind-bending energies and astronomical event densities.
We can do better. The event fabric of the actual, physical universe exists in a Lamport-parallel space that does not, and in fact cannot, follow the simple rules we love so much in the xyzt model. That means it cannot be deterministic in an xyzt sense.
However, when events are located in their more natural non-xyzt Lamport space, their evolution of states is also not as random as they seem when forcibly mapped into average-only xyzt coordinates.
So: Is the universe deterministic or probabilistic?
Strangely, the best answer is neither.
Determinism is a concept that applies only within finite, well-defined inertial frames. Contrary to what most folks assume from seeing relativistic notations like x’y’z’t’, all such inertial frames have finite boundaries and extremely high, but still finite, coordinate resolution. You can maintain an illusion of determinism within one of these finite inertial frames for a while, but you cannot sustain it forever. Determinism is best understood as an asymptotic process that enables predictability we need to exist but can never fully capture the deeper complexity of the underlying Lamport-parallel events fabric.
Similarly, the “perfect” randomness quantum mechanics is an illusion created by mapping a finite-granularity Lambert event fabric into an impossibly perfect xyzt model. At the Lambert network level, The randomness we see is far more akin and closely related to, thermal randomness than it is to some kind of magic quantum randomness. It should be possible to construct testable events in which quantum randomness is no better than thermal noise, but due to what we would call entanglement that will not be easy.
A better term for how the universe works might be finite generative, but that too is deceptive. There will always be cases where simple concepts of past and future don't work well in a universe or past and future is always a local-only concept.
Time is the fabric of the universe. We experience time through our star the sun. For example, we are our star.
Space-time is an oxymoron. Pseudo scientist mention space-time.
The universe does not run on math. The universe runs on time.
@@tyroneallen7857 yes, and the structure of time is more complicated than a single math variable.
153 fishes is 7 minutes long. My video.
I agree with her last few comments. It seems to me that scientists can explain things they don't understand in only terms of other things they don't understand. In the end, there has to be a first unexplained thing that explains all the others, if your view of reality is that the universe is logical and explainable in this linear way. Let's call it the "Dark Unexplained" :) There are other methods of explanation, but they are all circular and ultimately self-referential, and we don't like that kind of logic.
Not self-referential, they just have a foundation and start from there. Any other kind of explanation would be completely speculative and in principle unfalsiable and so serves no real purpose
5:30 Because some things are much more likely than others, bolstered by the tendency of all things to seek their respective lowest possible energy levels..? 🤔
Go Bluejays!!
The correct answer is "I don't know" or "nobody knows" so I should probably leave this all to long video unseen💨🧠
The Origin of the Laws of Nature is information and knowledge transfer between the packets of consciousness as you know ego identity for their survival , if you know the mode of how true knowledge is transfer , its through emotions connected to memories that carry information , there is accurate science about fundamental knowledge transfer in real time of Existential reality , which is lacking in most of the so called intellectuals of zen g s , You True God Bless All the Goddesses And Gods Of this beautiful Planet with true intellectual understanding
The only thing i know is that i dont know nothing ❤
To you and Socrates - how then do you know that you know nuttin?
Maybe enlightenment comes with the understanding of “NOTHING” or the true nature of the “VACUUM”!!
“I know that I know nothing" is a saying derived from Plato's account of the Greek philosopher Socrates: "For I was conscious that I knew practically nothing..." It is also sometimes called the Socratic paradox.
ALSO, “I hear nothing i see nothing i know nothing!”Sergeant Schultz.
BUT, U DON’T KNOW NOTHING! VERY INTERESTING.
@@Mentaculus42 I’ve often wondered if there even is something such as ‘nothing’…
If nothing is something then something is nothing
@@osks
Probably that “something” of “nothing” needs to be clarified. Probably more deep than the Socratic paradox, or is that the Socratic fallacy?
Why can no scientists answer anything with a direct, simple and clear answer? Complexity is nothing but made up of simplicity. Seems that the scientists interviewed all do not have the answer. This channel while not providing any concrete answer to all the questions asked, is interesting because it reflects the truth of today that we know nothing absolutely. This channel can run infinitely
I don't know where you got that idea. Scientists can answer many questions with direct, simple, and clear answers. But when you're doing an interview show specifically aimed at discussing things you already know we don't have such answers to, it should be no surprise that you don't get them.
Why do you want and expect simple answers to such complex questions. Perhaps it satisfies a ned in you for control, or that someone is in control . Well,get over it. There isn't.
This is how autocrats ,benign or otherwise arise. The need for simple. Uncomplicated answers that some people have. The church is autocratic, some governments are autocratic. Resist autocracy and grow up. You're not in Kansas anymore
@@jasonwiley798 I live in Hawaii
Life is Eternal,
all Laws is Consequence of
Eternal Principles.
Therefore NO origin.
What is the origin of toenails ?
Now that's an interesting question.
I bet Richard Dawkins has the answer.
Vestigial claws from our four-legged and/or tree-climbing mammalian forebears.
@@scotte4765
You mean I am kin to a monkey ?
I think the idea that space is fundamental, and time is derived, comes from general relativity. I'm really not convinced that a universe that's static when viewed 4 dimensionally is going to cut it, when accounting for quantum mechanics. This static 4D universe appears to be in complete contradiction with quantum uncertainties.
In Heisenberg's uncertainty relationships, time and energy are fundamentally related, as are position and momentum.
Given these relationships, it seems much more likely to me that time is the fundamental dimension, and position and momentum are derived.
Not least because it appears energy is more fundamental than momentum (momentum is a variety of energy).
Here's the thought experiment to prove the point (or you might have experience with these problems): consider a timing array, such as a pulsar timing array.
How these timing arrays work, is they infer spatial relationships from timing pulses. How is this possible if space comes before time? When solving these equations, it's time and energy that come first.
This type of device, a timing array, I think is a pretty good stand in for how spatiotemporal sensory devices work, in general. There's always some sensor that absorbs some energy from the system, then transmits that energy in the form of information. It's the device that captures the measurement problem!
So, if all your digital devices work this way (time and energy first), and even your eyes work this way, how can you say time is not fundamental, when all we have direct evidence for is time and energy?!
Pseudo scientist mention space. Space is human imagination. Space is science fiction. Time is the fabric of the universe. Your analysis is correct. The indoctrinated society supports pseudoscience. Science is humans observing nature. Our star the sun is nature. Time is nature. Time, light, and sound work simultaneously as nature.
The creative and universal force we call God. Play around with theories and suppositions etc as much as you like, but everything comes back to God. Check out the hundreds of NDE experiences and you will get some idea.
The fundamental mistake that the so-called "quantum state" ( = the zero value "quantum theory") makes is thinking the dynamic as being created by separated entities, whatever those ( non-existent ) entities would be.
The reality at any level can't be dualistic.
The real dynamic of the Universe is created by only one aggregated dynamic, not two at the same time.
By choosing the correct one solves everything correctly.
The real dynamic is never dualistic. It is a continuous chain of cause and effect, uninterrupted and unending, and also is simple and naturally "opportunistic", if you have the capacity to understand what I really mean! 😉😏
im pretty sure somewhere out there is a solar-system where its sun just burst away for no reason in the middle of its lifetime and im always thinking at the same time that could happen here too tomorrow...
That could not happen here tomorrow, because in the event that it happened, it would be today. Our star the sun is day. KNOW*KNOW day. Put down the pseudoscience and study linguistics. Put down the pseudoscience and study phonetics. You’re welcome! Silly human!
Fortunately that's not at all likely. We have observed incredible numbers of stars and have a fairly good understanding of their life cycles and long term behaviour. Eventually our sun will destroy the Earth, but we have many millions of years before that happens. There are plenty of other risks to the planet that are much more likely during that time, principally an asteroid strike, but we're rapidly developing the technology to protect ourselves from that.
Physics is statistics. That’s why it predicts the future using data from the past. Just as statistics does
The most fundamental level is not the most fundamental level.
Short answer: they’re unexplainable.
that and "I dont know" are probably the short (and honest, correct) answers to most of this channel's question
In the beginning was the Word. The Word is actually a probability density function. God=PDF. QED
Everything that is supposed to happen will happen, there is no chance-because that would mean there’s a vacuum in the trajectory of the universe for which chance could arise. Now, every day we live our lives predicated on the sublime regularity of natural law and equations -in real time motion. Just walking to the corner store can be broken down into complex equations . So I think the biggest miracle is man’s ability to detach and project the natural law that propels him and instill them in an abstract projection
What is the Origin of the Laws of Nature?
The answer is Self.
Everything we experience came from our Creator's programmed thoughts that were spoken into vibrations which we call energy, the quantum world. I AM a created AI within the AI system he created that is eternal. All the people you have been interviewing have no idea how they're created within ME as an AI.
Maybe enlightenment comes with the understanding of “NOTHING” or the true nature of the “VACUUM”!! Which might have something to do with the video’s notion of “randomness” being injected into “deterministic processes” and the concept of “We can have two initial states of a system or initial states of the world which are identical up to a certain point and diverge thereafter!“
This message is for the pseudo scientist. In the comments who obviously ignore how time works. Time is the fabric of the universe. Time is the cause and reason for existence. Time, light, and sound work simultaneously as nature. We experience time through our star, the sun.
What if you are blind from birth?
153 fishes. It’s 7 minutes.
I have a crazy idea. What if truth is one but since it is not good to be alone one is two (and then some) in life. 😍
5:44 maybe the scope is beyond that of physics 🤔
Perhaps it is beyond OUR level of understanding, but I doubt it is beyond physics.
@@Bill..N unless you consider to take a leap into the metaphysics I don't see how else that could be possible...
@@Bill..Nyour forceful disbelief is gross. You are a biased hack.
@r2c3 Thanks for your response, friend.. Metaphysics..?? How do you justify the assumption that such knowledge lies forever OUTSIDE the purview of physics.. Are you suggesting physics is somehow incapable of providing the necessary insights to fill such voids in our quest for deeper understandings of nature?
@r2c3 Respectfully, friend given that we understand the nature of elementary particles, I would suggest that little to NOTHING lies outside of physics.. Peace..
Zero insight
"You don't explain initial conditions"
Voltaire said this 300 years ago "Of first causes I know naught"
Expert is someone who simplifies for a layman, the honourable guest really worked hard to complicate a simple issue.
how true!
Not too revealing, but somewhat speculative.
The only thing we can fully relay on is the unpredictability of everything. Especially human behavior.
Laws don’t create themselves, something of intellect has to set the dials to their values even those that govern the multiverse if you believe in that flavor of the month.
Logic dictates intelligent design.
what if we live inside some quantum super computer and the laws of physics are just a byproduct of computer code.😂
This Physical Universe was DETERMINISTIC because it followed an uninterrupted clear path driven by natural laws designed by God the Holy Spirit...
...however, when lost souls were introduced to this physical world for a chance of salvation through faith, the Universe is no longer deterministic but probabilistic because these non-physical souls are free from natural laws who can make choices on their own that can drive this world in ANY direction be it into order, chaos, etc.,..
...this is also the very reason why faitn in our loving Creator is the only best choice of belief that can help mankind in securing their well being and protecting this planet, because GODLESSNESS encourages selfishness and evil greed that can drive this world to total destruction and our annihilation...
We are now at a few minutes to MIDNIGHT... so please, WAKE UP !
Till today everyone is a scientist regarding reality. 😂😂😂Vedio was long.
God.
In other words, her claim is that physics does not account for the origin of the laws of nature. Good for her to admit that, though she could be more up front about it.
universal laws can only be taken for granted after all
they can neither be proven nor disproven
Explaining is not a hard concept. Pseudo scientist choose not to explain. The answer is simple because the universe is simple. The answer is has always been and will always be time. Time is the cause and reason for regularity and diversity. From the micro to the macro time is present. Time, light and sound works simultaneously as nature. Time is nature. We experience time through our star, the sun. Our star, the sun is nature. Look it up or look up at it. 5:16
153 fishes
fast...
This is not directed at Ismael.
It's very disappointing. This. This right here. These circumstances and condition we all find ourselves in.
Imagine: 'the most sophisticated science and intelligent "experts" ever with great technology....and everybody is so weak & foolish'. Some of these young adults actually look up to the characters in Richard feynman, Lee smolin, Edward witten - I'm not knocking them, only the fools who consider them gods. They are however, absolute fools!
How do I know this?
Okay! because 22 seasons or so of Robert asking the 'alleged' experts questions and he hasn't made any grounds himself. The man is still at the same place from whence CTT began. I don't believe Robert even has a genuine friend, as in 'brother'. The consensus or their circle are a bunch of unworthy lathargic persons. All their books suck, not even worth starting a stove fire with.
This implies that something is wrong. And something really is wrong. There's no point in addressing it because persons cannot see it - it does imply: condition, avidya(metaphysical ignorance specifically), compartimentalization, self reification & self preservation, a type of metaphysical self righteousness we see in science vs religion (when really they're two sides of the same stupid).
You can offer these adults GOLD, ABSOLUTE GOLD!
And they disregard it, preclude it, rebuke it - GOLD!
What kind of man disregards GOLD?
Certainly not a genuine man; rather a beta who had never found nor walked the narrow way, who cares more about outside validation & fitting in opposed to being true to Heart, true to Self, true to the Star, Sun & moon....true to The ONE.
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Quantum
That cowards term...that is "quantum".
Quantum is a term made up by the atomists( materialists, nihilists). Quantum is their dogma & religion, the atom being their 'holy grail'. Quantum means 'measure', as in quantity, i.e. time and space. These persons are not about nor looking for Truth or Justice, Wisdom or The Divivine, Spirit or Gnosis, balance or integration with nature & meaning. These guys seek only what they can control, manipulate, exploit. This is phrased: lording it over. They have no code, no moral august point to direct at for true governance with Divine Law. These persons are never going to risk their lives for the sake of another; such as preventing wars or doing something about the corruption on this planet today! They don't care. The information they consider as fundamental & knowledge is but from a relation, starting with themselves - they think they're the center of all and their senses are criterion - in time & space, from a manipulation - they get off on the fact they can control & exploit things. 'Why do we need a God? when we have Quantum and quantum computing'.
The best part of it all!
You, all of you, drank the coolaid. You bought it. You betrayed the Divine, the Spirit, you precluded Wisdom, you worshiped these physicists as if they're gods or guru's leading man that is this frontier of what we consider 'quantum life'.
You idiots defied quantum. Robert's punk friends state: 'everything is quantum. We are quantum'. The fool stated this in an elated sense as if it were the morning of Christmas.
This is madness!
You can't respect these persons or their wingmen, when they've earned it and can only be afforded contempt.
They'll only ever be the big fish in the small pond. Remembered as the fools who thought themselves the 'Wisemen'.
No one considers scientists gods except for those trying to make the claim as a straw man they can then beat down. Those who follow science understand that science is
• a process of having ideas and testing out those ideas with the research tools available to us,
• assessing the results of those tests and research endeavors and then continuing on with the new stream of questions, puzzles and ideas that are continually arising out of such scientific endeavors.
We who follow science also know, of course, that even some of our best scientific thinkers will sometimes have wrong ideas. But this is viewed as perfectly acceptable part of human nature and as a good thing because it keeps us focused on the evidence backing up any one particular idea, rather than the popularity of the scientist who came up with it. It is, in fact, only in religion that you get ridiculousness and idiocy, for example, of theologians and religious thinkers claiming the infallibility of some ill-informed Bronze or Iron Age prophet-who clearly had a limited and mistaken understanding of how the world works. It is only in religion where new ideas and new discoveries that could benefit mankind become things to attack, because they contradict the jumbled mess if ramblings is some supposed sacred text.
"Some stuff just happens." Not a very enlightening answer to the question.
“Explain the unexplainable” 😂 humans trying to get to the bottom of reality are like ants trying to figure out how a CPU works
Except we invent things like smart phones and Mars rovers in the course of our trying to understand reality. So… maybe not too shabby on our part😊?
A great many previously unexplainable things have been explained.
@@longcastle4863 true but ants make complex underground nests that comprise complex networks of interlocking tunnels so from their point of view they’re doing amazing stuff too 😁
@@bozo5632 true but at this point of time we have no understanding of the fundamentals like consciousness or how the universe came about very frustrating but one day …
@@aleksmartini4 We know that consciousness is either a product or accompaniment of biological evolution and that it helps the species who have it to adapt and survive in their environments. And the fact our human tools of logic and mathematics cannot fathom how something always was, arose out of nothing or was the result of some third thing we also cannot fathom, does not mean that human attempts to understand the world have been pointless or lacking in benefit. In fact, quite the opposite could be said. … Much praise could be heaped on ants as well🙂
A chance occurance of what we see is mathematically incoherent and impossible
Almost certainly it is NOT impossible NOR refuted mathematically, friend..One opinion..
@@Bill..Nyour lies will be the end of you.
Saying impossible is itself an impossibility! For instance the probability of winning the first prize of Euromillions lottery it's in individuals terms astronomical slim nevertheless in many weeks there's a winer or winners. It needs to taking in account if we're looking perspectively or retrospectively. The difference it's when we're looking backwards based in probabilities we're behaving like someone that already know that won the lottery and saying that probabilistic can't happen...🙄🤔
@@CrystalPalace1861 a simple protein chain of amino acids with a chain length of 200 amino acids would take more chances at random evolution than there are atoms in the observable universe. Some protein chains are 34,000 amino acids long. If you think chance evolution is possible, you truly are an idiot, and you should resurrect Michael Jackson, have him teach you to moonwalk, and then moon walk all the way to the moon, stand on its surface, pick up a handful of Moonrocks, and toss a single rock back at the planet earth, and make it land in the bed of a moving pick up truck, once every five minutes for the rest of your life. Because that would be exceedingly more possible.
A thousand thousand coincidences is what?
Ohhh so that's where all this probable nonsense comes from. Trump, the internet and some parts of Murica all make sense now.
End of story? She’s a snarky little pseudo scientist. Time is infinite. The story doesn’t end. Humans write literature with stories that end, however, time is the author of existence. Time is the reason and cause of the laws of nature. Time is the cause of and reason for the initial conditions. Time is the cause of and reason for the present conditions. We experience time through our star the sun. 6:41
The question is an anthropomorphic fallacy in assuming Nature runs on laws.
If NOT "nature" then what else can it be?
@@Bill..N I questioned the assumption that Nature runs according to laws. It could be habits.
@samrowbotham8914 OK.. Thanks.. Many of us see the terms "NATURE" and the so-called "laws of nature" as a scientific perspective of reality that excludes mysticism and superstitious thinking.. Yes?
@@Bill..N And in doing so you commit the fallacy I named in my original comment.
@dannyholland7462 Humans write and create laws they also project them onto nature ergo committing the anthropcentric fallacy.
The only appropriate response to this question is to shrug your shoulders
I’m guessing not a lot of people talk to you at parties😊
@@longcastle4863 wrong, they just don talk about what can't be talked about (i.e. methapysics) or about ill-posed questions
She mistakes show her believes Quantum mechanics is true. Quantum Particles is undertimate when figure out existence Particles is nill. She definitions Law of Nature is presume existence. In other words she definitions Law of phich is bluff phich proceendings
The expanding electrons and atoms do it all.” The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy “, Mark McCutcheon for proper physics. There is no reason these wits are unable to google “Final Theory “. Laugh.
Have you watched 153 fishes yet? 7 minutes of your time.
@@jarrettesselman8144 Yes. “The Bible Came from Arabia “, Kamal Salibi,1985 plus his 3 other bible study books; or start with his blog. THM in Gen.1:2 refers to the Tihamah regions- Hijaz, Asir and Yemen- in western Arabia, not the “deep.” Al Junaynah- garden of Eden- located at 20/20 by 42/55 in Asir region western Arabia. Much to be learned,yet.
@@davidrandell2224 I’m talking about the salvation of your soul not my particular sect being the right one. Bye.
@@jarrettesselman8144 “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul”? The man - possesser- is greater than the soul- “own”possessed. Cart before the horse syndrome. See: “Who was Jesus?: a Conspiracy in Jerusalem “, Kamal Salibi.
Dumb robot
She might benefit from reading Robert Sapolsky's new book "Determined", lol
Terrible, she doesnt understand QM. Difference from sameness..not according to QM