Very detailed and informative. This video made me rethink how i should upgrade my c43 burnmester system. I just feel like they're lacking. It would be really cool if you can include a list of all or most of the product you used in the video on the desciption(maybe with links). Awesome video. Thanks!
@@hksice200 I’ll try to explain this best I can but listing every product would take me half as long as the build itself haha. But if you have a specific product you are curious about, don’t be shy to ask about it.
Peter at ps sound has done some amazing systems on the mercs with burmeister. He often uses the factory burmeister kick woofers and rates them once tuned with a helix dsp amp, worth considering before spending money unnecessarily
Great video with a lot of good information! Question for you: I have a 4Runner that I'm currently piecing together a Helix build for. I'd like to keep everything in factory locations also (car doesn't have 3-ways up front). I'm thinking i7 components in the front doors, coaxials in the rear doors, 8" sub in the factory JBL enclosure, all powered by a Helix V8. My question is do you think it would be better to do #1) i7 6.5" woofers and tweeters, or #2) i7 8" woofers and tweeters in the front doors (lower door has quite a lot of space from the factory 6x9)? My thought is since I won't have a lot of bass coming from the 8" sub in the factory trunk enclosure, the 8" i7 woofers might help fill in the low end and bring some bass up front. But then I'm worried I may be missing out on too much of the upper-mid range with that larger gap between the 8" woofer and tweeter combo?
Great video. Looking forward to more. I had a system in my 2016 Cayman but I didn't need a MOST interface since it had line level outputs. Easy to add aftermarket. I now have a 2022 Taycan which I have been contemplating a system for but not sure how to work around the electrical system of an EV. I've also been out of the game for awhile so I don't know what equipment is out there now. One question I have is about power distribution. Most installers seem to gravitate towards fuses rather than circuit breakers. I always liked circuit breakers for the ease of disconnecting the system. Is there something about circuit breakers that installers shy away from?
@@808labradors thanks! I personally run a Stinger circuit breaker in my truck but I know most installers stay away from them cause they have track record of being more sensitive to heat. But I’ve installed probably a dozen circuit breakers without issue. I’d recommend looking up PSSound as he has done some EV builds and I know one was a Taycan. I’d suggest subbing to his Patreon and chat with him direct about it.
@@lukeouellet The sensitivity issue with breakers is a real thing. Fuses will withstand an overcurrent condition for slightly longer than a breaker which is why sizing breakers needs to be done carefully. But the convenience of allowing for rest and disconnect without actually removing anything offsets that for me.
I grabbed the same 38 pin plug except off some chinese site mine came with a male and female end , i couldnt find it on its own anywhere except without wires and that crimping all that seemed like a nightmare lol aliexpress has them now too for around 40 bucks wire is quality too.
What's your opinion on the Helix V8 vs say the JL VXI 800/8? Nearly every shop I visit in SoCal wants to push the JL. Thanks and these videos are good to see.
Hey Jimmy - from a pure "how does it sound" perspective - they are qual playing fields but I have removed as many VXi amps from builds as I have installed new V8s mainly because of OEM integration issues. The VXi feature set is very basic and limiting when compared to most DSP Amps on the market - 16 volt limit, 10 band eq and input summation, input EQ and delay missing. JL essentially mandates you need to buy a Fix 82/86 to live in front of most VXi set ups that aren't using a digital signal. So now I need two devices and need to spend almost $1000 more to get a device that still doesn't have nearly the same tuning or integration capabilities of the Helix suite. Really hard for me to justify installing a VXi in any new build. JL makes good hardware and tends to have a decent dealer network but the VXi was obsolete the day it was released, dealers just push JL for the name brand familiarity and usually have decent sized dealer minimums to meet quarterly. With that said, if you are only working with a tuner that is familiar with TuN and Vxi - I'd still recommend looking at that as you will likely get better results than making someone learn a new software.
@@lukeouellet Wow thank you for that detailed response. I was afraid of that. I have a 2024 GMC Canyon AT4 non Bose and I know OEM integration is going to be a pain. Local shop here in San Diego is going to use high level inputs only. I bring up a lot of questions from your videos, Resonix, and PSSound and most shops don't even know what I'm talking about. I'm a novice but watch a lot of videos and understand the concepts of what you guys are doing to get great sound. I had them just throw a front sub in for now and sounds pretty good. Waiting on the AMT Mundorf Tweeters to arrive from Resonix and then will go from there. Really appreciate the response.
I'm looking forward to seeing more on this install.
Very detailed and informative. This video made me rethink how i should upgrade my c43 burnmester system. I just feel like they're lacking. It would be really cool if you can include a list of all or most of the product you used in the video on the desciption(maybe with links).
Awesome video. Thanks!
@@hksice200 I’ll try to explain this best I can but listing every product would take me half as long as the build itself haha. But if you have a specific product you are curious about, don’t be shy to ask about it.
Peter at ps sound has done some amazing systems on the mercs with burmeister. He often uses the factory burmeister kick woofers and rates them once tuned with a helix dsp amp, worth considering before spending money unnecessarily
Keep them coming
Great video with a lot of good information!
Question for you: I have a 4Runner that I'm currently piecing together a Helix build for. I'd like to keep everything in factory locations also (car doesn't have 3-ways up front). I'm thinking i7 components in the front doors, coaxials in the rear doors, 8" sub in the factory JBL enclosure, all powered by a Helix V8. My question is do you think it would be better to do #1) i7 6.5" woofers and tweeters, or #2) i7 8" woofers and tweeters in the front doors (lower door has quite a lot of space from the factory 6x9)? My thought is since I won't have a lot of bass coming from the 8" sub in the factory trunk enclosure, the 8" i7 woofers might help fill in the low end and bring some bass up front. But then I'm worried I may be missing out on too much of the upper-mid range with that larger gap between the 8" woofer and tweeter combo?
Great video. Looking forward to more. I had a system in my 2016 Cayman but I didn't need a MOST interface since it had line level outputs. Easy to add aftermarket. I now have a 2022 Taycan which I have been contemplating a system for but not sure how to work around the electrical system of an EV. I've also been out of the game for awhile so I don't know what equipment is out there now. One question I have is about power distribution. Most installers seem to gravitate towards fuses rather than circuit breakers. I always liked circuit breakers for the ease of disconnecting the system. Is there something about circuit breakers that installers shy away from?
@@808labradors thanks! I personally run a Stinger circuit breaker in my truck but I know most installers stay away from them cause they have track record of being more sensitive to heat. But I’ve installed probably a dozen circuit breakers without issue. I’d recommend looking up PSSound as he has done some EV builds and I know one was a Taycan. I’d suggest subbing to his Patreon and chat with him direct about it.
@@lukeouellet The sensitivity issue with breakers is a real thing. Fuses will withstand an overcurrent condition for slightly longer than a breaker which is why sizing breakers needs to be done carefully. But the convenience of allowing for rest and disconnect without actually removing anything offsets that for me.
@@808labradors likewise
I grabbed the same 38 pin plug except off some chinese site mine came with a male and female end , i couldnt find it on its own anywhere except without wires and that crimping all that seemed like a nightmare lol aliexpress has them now too for around 40 bucks wire is quality too.
What's your opinion on the Helix V8 vs say the JL VXI 800/8? Nearly every shop I visit in SoCal wants to push the JL. Thanks and these videos are good to see.
Hey Jimmy - from a pure "how does it sound" perspective - they are qual playing fields but I have removed as many VXi amps from builds as I have installed new V8s mainly because of OEM integration issues. The VXi feature set is very basic and limiting when compared to most DSP Amps on the market - 16 volt limit, 10 band eq and input summation, input EQ and delay missing. JL essentially mandates you need to buy a Fix 82/86 to live in front of most VXi set ups that aren't using a digital signal. So now I need two devices and need to spend almost $1000 more to get a device that still doesn't have nearly the same tuning or integration capabilities of the Helix suite. Really hard for me to justify installing a VXi in any new build. JL makes good hardware and tends to have a decent dealer network but the VXi was obsolete the day it was released, dealers just push JL for the name brand familiarity and usually have decent sized dealer minimums to meet quarterly.
With that said, if you are only working with a tuner that is familiar with TuN and Vxi - I'd still recommend looking at that as you will likely get better results than making someone learn a new software.
@@lukeouellet Wow thank you for that detailed response. I was afraid of that. I have a 2024 GMC Canyon AT4 non Bose and I know OEM integration is going to be a pain. Local shop here in San Diego is going to use high level inputs only. I bring up a lot of questions from your videos, Resonix, and PSSound and most shops don't even know what I'm talking about. I'm a novice but watch a lot of videos and understand the concepts of what you guys are doing to get great sound. I had them just throw a front sub in for now and sounds pretty good. Waiting on the AMT Mundorf Tweeters to arrive from Resonix and then will go from there. Really appreciate the response.