This episode of "To Tell The Truth" is a HUGE surprise. I NEVER thought I would ever see any TV footage of Bud Collyer in color. Thanks, Match Game Productions, for sharing this rare episode of "To Tell The Truth" here at RUclips!
Game two is fascinating. According to Wikipedia, Judge Carro is still alive (posted 5/30/2020) And was a New York State Supreme Court Judge. He practiced law in New York and gained a reputation for champion human rights. Being of Puerto Rican heritage, he gained the respect of the court system not only in New York but in the history of the United States. In later years, the "John Carro Award for Judicial Excellence" is presented to an individual who excels in a career of being a judge. His most famed recipient is current United States Supreme Court Justice, Sonya Sotomayer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carro
To Match Game Productions, one will notice that the total length of this clip is 17:50 instead of 21 or 22 minutes. The reason was the time slot CBS assigned the daytime edition of TTTT ended five minutes early. Reason: CBS did a five minute news update with long-time report/anchor Douglas Edwards.
I wish there were more Color Collyer episodes. Just like I wish that there were original broadcast color video tapes of the CBS TV live Sunday night What's My Line?, originally SEEN IN COLOR between 1965-67. We are lucky to have the black and white versions of those shows. WML? ran from 1950-67 on CBS, then was syndicated in color from 1968-75.
That second one - chilling and more relevant than ever. And I nailed it btw. #1 just seemed like your typical inept state worker. I guess I spent too many years working for the state myself.
I thought the same thing as you did. He just said little without any substance. The other 2 were more empathetic - dead give away they don't work for the government. Like you, I also worked for the State - I guess we can spot an inept worker a mile away!
The second game was a rare situation where the content was deadly serious. When this show was taped in 1967, America was still shakened by the JFK assassination. The seriousness of the panel and their questioning was thoughtful. Humor would have been inappropiate until the panels' summation. I can not recall more serious subject matter in the history of TTTT.
One of the truly sad ironies is that Bud Collyer died the very day Garry Moore's syndicated version of "To Tell the Truth" debuted from the very stage at the Ed Sullivan Theater that was home to the original.
It's so great to see a color episode with Bud Collyer, as opposed to the b & w kinescopes that primarily survived the era. It was also at this point that Bud was doing the voice of Superman in the classic Filmation cartoons seen on Saturday mornings in 1967. Enjoyed this a lot.
More than that, Bud was recast as SUPERMAN, which he originated on the radio in the 1940s and also on the Fleischer and Famous Studios animated SUPERMAN cartoons, which you can see here on RUclips.
Bud Collyer also did the voice-over work for the "Superman" cartoon show that aired on CBS during the 1966-67 season. I am not sure if he did work on the 1967-68 season. Collyer suffered a heart attack in 1968. Because he suffered from yellow fever during World War II, it weakened his heart and circulatory system. Bud Collyer died in 1969 due to circulatory failure.
Obviously they didn’t redo their set before switching to color. They certainly did with the next series. Loved the days when people waxed their kitchen floors.
Examples of storing kinneys for copyright purposes are all of the NBC-owned episodes of "Concentration" after the network assumed ownership from the original Barry & Enright Productions in the wake of the quiz show scandals. When U-Matic videocassettes became the norm in 1969, the remaining 3 1/2 years worth of shows were the stored on the cassettes. After longtime denials regarding their existence, NBC finally admitted that they do indeed exist five years ago.
True. I remember those continued well into the 1970s before local stations went to two-hour newscasts (starting with WNBC in 1974, the first to do so) in the afternoon and all-news radio stations like WCBS 880 and WINS (1010) became more common across the country.
"Kinney" is short for "kinescope". Before videotape, a 16mm camera was set up to record the live shows from a monitor. These filmed shows would then be broadcast to the West Coast. Even when videotape became the norm, the canisters were huge and a nuisance and huge expense to replace. While videotapes started to be used regularly in 1964 for rebroadcast, they were wiped for re-use. However, a kinney was usually created to be stored for copyright purposes.
Actually, all of the daytime CBS color episodes from 1967-69 exist on tape; the producer of the daytime version kept them (many have been converted to digital format). The original Game Show Network televised most of them when it started up. While a fair number of the black-and-white nighttime tapes were preserved, most of them (including the last nighttime show that was originally in color) are on kinney films.
Joy Behar of the TV show THE VIEW sounds like an older version of Peggy Case . I wonder if the couple in the first contestants got married are still married and are still alive ? Anybody know .
It's rare for a Goodson/Todman game show to use flip-numbers ala some Bob Stewart game shows like Pyramid and Shoot for the Stars. Also from Liar's Club.
And what is odd is most of my generation that grew up in the 1970s and early '80s better remembers Garry Moore for hosting the second version of TTTT as opposed to I've Got A Secret (which did have a brief comeback itself in 1972).
Daytime versions of prime time game shows ALWAYS paid less money and awarded less valuable prizes. The ad revenue was always less than for prime time broadcasts.
Does anyone know how to spell the last name of Lee Harvey Oswald's former probation officer? I couldn't catch whether it was "Caro," or "Carol," or what. Once I get the correct spelling, I'd be interested in whatever memoirs this man has left behind.
Don't believe the JFK movie trash, or Jesse Ventura's ramblings. The facts are Oswald was a sharp shooter. His military scores which are a matter of record prove it. It's also been proven many times by many people that Oswald could have gotten that many shots off in that amount time. I do agree with you though, that he was set up to take the full blame for the assasination. He did not do all of this on his own.
This was the old set used for black and white broadcasts. For the daytime version of the show’s final season, the set was renovated to a white background, with multi-colored accents on the walls.
“Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will...."
Amazing to me how many people hate Orson Bean for no good reason. He's actually very intelligent and witty. It's Kitty Carlisle that was an ignorant, obnoxious stooge.
What I notice more than anything else is the animosity Peggy Cass has toward Tom Poston. He seems to get on her last nerve, and she has no problem expressing her irritation. I don't think I've ever seen her crack a smile at anything he said or did.
As a 9 yr. old visiting from California with my parents -saw this show in '67 & '71. Great fun!
I loved Orson Bean's drawings on his card when I was a little kid!
This episode of "To Tell The Truth" is a HUGE surprise. I NEVER thought I would ever see any TV footage of Bud Collyer in color. Thanks, Match Game Productions, for sharing this rare episode of "To Tell The Truth" here at RUclips!
It was followed by "The CBS Afternoon News With Douglas Edwards".
Game two is fascinating. According to Wikipedia, Judge Carro is still alive (posted 5/30/2020) And was a New York State Supreme Court Judge.
He practiced law in New York and gained a reputation for champion human rights. Being of Puerto Rican heritage, he gained the respect of the court system not only in New York but in the history of the United States.
In later years, the "John Carro Award for Judicial Excellence" is presented to an individual who excels in a career of being a judge. His most famed recipient is current United States Supreme Court Justice, Sonya Sotomayer.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carro
Thanks for posting, very interesting! Imagine how that system failure to help Oswald must have helped to motivate him. Incredible story.
To Match Game Productions, one will notice that the total length of this clip is 17:50 instead of 21 or 22 minutes. The reason was the time slot CBS assigned the daytime edition of TTTT ended five minutes early. Reason: CBS did a five minute news update with long-time report/anchor Douglas Edwards.
Nice to see this color daytime episode. Not many of them around any more. Thanks for uploading it for us :)
I wish there were more Color Collyer episodes. Just like I wish that there were original broadcast color video tapes of the CBS TV live Sunday night What's My Line?, originally SEEN IN COLOR between 1965-67. We are lucky to have the black and white versions of those shows. WML? ran from 1950-67 on CBS, then was syndicated in color from 1968-75.
That second one - chilling and more relevant than ever. And I nailed it btw. #1 just seemed like your typical inept state worker. I guess I spent too many years working for the state myself.
I thought the same thing as you did. He just said little without any substance. The other 2 were more empathetic - dead give away they don't work for the government. Like you, I also worked for the State - I guess we can spot an inept worker a mile away!
The second game was a rare situation where the content was deadly serious. When this show was taped in 1967, America was still shakened by the JFK assassination. The seriousness of the panel and their questioning was thoughtful. Humor would have been inappropiate until the panels' summation. I can not recall more serious subject matter in the history of TTTT.
BUD COLLYER , THE SUPERMAN IN 1941 ,PROBABLY BEING A GREAT PRESENTER TV SHOW,CONGRATULATIONS
One of the truly sad ironies is that Bud Collyer died the very day Garry Moore's syndicated version of "To Tell the Truth" debuted from the very stage at the Ed Sullivan Theater that was home to the original.
It's so great to see a color episode with Bud Collyer, as opposed to the b & w kinescopes that primarily survived the era. It was also at this point that Bud was doing the voice of Superman in the classic Filmation cartoons seen on Saturday mornings in 1967.
Enjoyed this a lot.
More than that, Bud was recast as SUPERMAN, which he originated on the radio in the 1940s and also on the Fleischer and Famous Studios animated SUPERMAN cartoons, which you can see here on RUclips.
And CBS carried the new adventures of Superman for 3 years in color.
From watching , "To Tell the Truth" , I had the biggest crush on Orson Bean .
Bud Collyer also did the voice-over work for the "Superman" cartoon show that aired on CBS during the 1966-67 season. I am not sure if he did work on the 1967-68 season. Collyer suffered a heart attack in 1968. Because he suffered from yellow fever during World War II, it weakened his heart and circulatory system. Bud Collyer died in 1969 due to circulatory failure.
He was asked to return for the revival but was too ill to consider it
Obviously they didn’t redo their set before switching to color. They certainly did with the next series. Loved the days when people waxed their kitchen floors.
Examples of storing kinneys for copyright purposes are all of the NBC-owned episodes of "Concentration" after the network assumed ownership from the original Barry & Enright Productions in the wake of the quiz show scandals. When U-Matic videocassettes became the norm in 1969, the remaining 3 1/2 years worth of shows were the stored on the cassettes. After longtime denials regarding their existence, NBC finally admitted that they do indeed exist five years ago.
Noveltooner , a shame we don’t have more daytime Hollywood Squares available. A lot of laughs lost to erasure.
True. I remember those continued well into the 1970s before local stations went to two-hour newscasts (starting with WNBC in 1974, the first to do so) in the afternoon and all-news radio stations like WCBS 880 and WINS (1010) became more common across the country.
Rare to see Bud on videotape AND in color,too!
0:43. If the audience shot looks familiar, that's because this episode was taped at the Ed Sullivan Theater during a taping hiatus of that show.
It wouldn't have had to be a taping hiatus. Ed Sullivan only used the theater on Saturdays and Sundays.
YES, I REMEMBER HEARING THE STATE WANTED TO PUT LEE OSWALD IN AN INSTITUTION IN A DOCUMENTARY!
Bud Collyer was a legend. Nobody like him since other than Alex Trebek.
Why they cut to 100$ ?
Wow. Imagine the regrets that former officer had to live with, even though he tried his best. No wonder he went to law school.
So that's how Bud Collyer looked in color. Lol Awesome!
It's a first for me, too.
The sound quality is so much better, too.
First time I've seen Bud in color.
So weird to see Bud in color?
"Kinney" is short for "kinescope". Before videotape, a 16mm camera was set up to record the live shows from a monitor. These filmed shows would then be broadcast to the West Coast. Even when videotape became the norm, the canisters were huge and a nuisance and huge expense to replace. While videotapes started to be used regularly in 1964 for rebroadcast, they were wiped for re-use. However, a kinney was usually created to be stored for copyright purposes.
A super host, in reference to what I believe to be Collyer's best-known radio role, right?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carro This is the spelling of John Carro, who is still practicing law today.
MrKTVM It is a bold, perhaps even arrogant claim to make... "I could have stopped Lee Harvey Oswald when he was 12"
Not at that time...
Actually, all of the daytime CBS color episodes from 1967-69 exist on tape; the producer of the daytime version kept them (many have been converted to digital format). The original Game Show Network televised most of them when it started up. While a fair number of the black-and-white nighttime tapes were preserved, most of them (including the last nighttime show that was originally in color) are on kinney films.
9:00 John Carrow: Bronx Probation officer who tried to take Lee Harvey Oswald away from his mother.
Joy Behar of the TV show THE VIEW sounds like an older version of Peggy Case . I wonder if the couple in the first contestants got married are still married and are still alive ? Anybody know .
Wow... Orson Bean asking intelligent questions. I wonder who wrote them for him?
It's rare for a Goodson/Todman game show to use flip-numbers ala some Bob Stewart game shows like Pyramid and Shoot for the Stars. Also from Liar's Club.
Merry Lee filed for divorce in 2010. Steve's obituary in 2020 lists a different woman as his "companion"
And what is odd is most of my generation that grew up in the 1970s and early '80s better remembers Garry Moore for hosting the second version of TTTT as opposed to I've Got A Secret (which did have a brief comeback itself in 1972).
I like the added interest of the audience vote but the cheapskates dropped the prize money.
Daytime versions of prime time game shows ALWAYS paid less money and awarded less valuable prizes. The ad revenue was always less than for prime time broadcasts.
I think she liked number 2 a lot.
Orson
Does anyone know how to spell the last name of Lee Harvey Oswald's former probation officer? I couldn't catch whether it was "Caro," or "Carol," or what. Once I get the correct spelling, I'd be interested in whatever memoirs this man has left behind.
Carro
Don't believe the JFK movie trash, or Jesse Ventura's ramblings. The facts are Oswald was a sharp shooter. His military scores which are a matter of record prove it. It's also been proven many times by many people that Oswald could have gotten that many shots off in that amount time. I do agree with you though, that he was set up to take the full blame for the assasination. He did not do all of this on his own.
Why did Oswald need anybody else? He worked on the parade route. From that sniper's window it's a turkey shoot.
First Round if he had been a REAL gentleman, he would have given up his seat to his fiancee.
At about 1:09, you can see the top of the young lady's stocking and garter strap as she takes her seat!
Seymore Skinner And your point is...?
+MrKTVM Skinner got to See more.
+BigSCTVfan I guess you that sort of hang-up...
Good eye. You sure your last name's not 'Hiney'?
Set looks rather murky in color. Could be because it was designed for black and white
This was the old set used for black and white broadcasts. For the daytime version of the show’s final season, the set was renovated to a white background, with multi-colored accents on the walls.
9:00 9:28 17:03
Interesting to note how universally accepted was the notion that Oswald killed Kennedy was in 1967.
Not necessarily.
Bud Collyer, you told us to buy Geritol, and I did. The stuff may help with iron deficiency but it is disgusting!
Maybe add some vodka?
“Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will Well, if you will...."
Amazing to me how many people hate Orson Bean for no good reason. He's actually very intelligent and witty. It's Kitty Carlisle that was an ignorant, obnoxious stooge.
Love Orson, love Kitty.
What I notice more than anything else is the animosity Peggy Cass has toward Tom Poston. He seems to get on her last nerve, and she has no problem expressing her irritation. I don't think I've ever seen her crack a smile at anything he said or did.