The Most Comfortable Sleeping Pads (And The Most Uncomfortable)
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Over the past few years, Neil has tested a variety of sleeping pads, some providing him with a restful night sleep, while others turning his nights into a restless ordeal. Stay tuned to discover which pads have been left behind and which one is his absolute favorite.
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Outline:
Intro - 0:00
No Sleeping Pad - 0:57
Klymit Inertia X Lite Sleeping Pad - 2:11
Sea-To-Summit Ultralight Insulated - 3:26
Decathlon Foreclaz Trek 700 - 4:28
Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite - 5:54
Other Sleeping Pads - 7:15
Final Thoughts - 7:59
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As a female with a "powerful" posterior, when i do no-pad i have to dig a hole in the dirt under my tent for my butt. Now i have a folding pad, and I love that it sets up immediately though i don't love how bulky it is on the bike. My husband has the big agnes xl and he loves it- and i love that he isn't an unslept grump.
Thanks for the review, Neil. Once I found the thicker pad options that changed the game. My new favorite is the Nemo Tensor Ultralight insulated in wide. I love it. It’s light, packs small, insulated, and has a nice feel for sleeping directly on top of it. One final thing, it’s quiet. After a recent trip and my tent was next to another camper who moved all night long, a quiet sleep pad is nice for everyone.
Sounds like they were having more fun than you🥳
I agree with the Nemo Tensor 👍🏻
I use a Sea to Summit Ether light XT, 4 inches thick with a r value of 3.5 +-. Ive never been cold. Im all about the thick pad. The game changer in my sleep system was the StS pillow and the pillow lock.
Currently using an Exped. Main reason for selecting this pad is that it uses an inflation bag which makes setup fast, as well keeping moisture out of the pad interior.
I'm currently on my third Exped...as in my second warranty replacement for the first pad. Two separate times now I've had the adhesive keeping the long cells together violently separate and turn half of the pad into a big hotdog shape. It was pretty loud too, (probably because I had my head resting on the pad), like someone popping a balloon in your ear.
I guess the customer service has been great and they assured me they have since fixed the issue, but it's hard for me to trust this as a reliable piece of gear. I'm sure I'll use it for overnighters, but I don't know if this pad is coming with me on any serious trips.
I have the Nemo Tensor insulated pad. I know there are mixed reviews on it, but it has been great for me. It’s pretty similar to the Therma rest in terms of thickness and comfortability but less noisy.
I love my tensor, don't get thrown off the side like on the NeoAir, and agree, the noise factor on the neo was a problem even w ear plugs
Tensor is way more comfy than the Xlite in my opinion. The quilted baffles provide fewer pressure points.
Team Tensor here too. Regular wide size and well worth it for the weight to have a pad that is 25" wide the whole length instead of 25" wide for a foot or two on the mummy-shaped Themarest pads.
I find I need a 25" wide pad, not 20". I sleep on my side, and I don't like my hands falling off the pad. I currently have the Big Agnes Rapide. It is very comfortable and quiet. So far, it is holding up well. I had an old one, and the valve started leaking on it. The new valves seem to be a much better design.
It seems like Big Agnes hit the reset button on their pads, good to hear you like it. We will have to give them a shot soon.
I also have tried several brands of sleeping pads. I always go back to my favorite for the last 10 years. The REI Flash. Light enough for me and comfortable.
I love my Zenbivy Light Mattress. It's very warm, light, supportive for side sleeping, comes in several sizes, and is quiet to sleep on.
I would like to add for winter and for protection of an inflatable, grab an ultra thin neoprene pad. They can pack down very small, but that little bit of closed cell rubber foam will protect the air pad, keep it from shifting around on the tent floor, and add just a little r value.
Hi, do you have a link for an example? Never seen one of those. Thanx!
Agree 100%. Try putting it underneath your tent on sketchy ground for the same benefits along with added protection for your tent floor
I use the Gossamer Gear thinlite foam pad for this purpose. protects the pad and adds a little more insulation
I too have the Big Agnes AXL and it has performed exceptionally well. No punctures, great insulation and the thickness = great comfort.
I agree that the Forclaz pad is great value for money. I have used it 3 years now in all seasons. It probably has about 15 trips on it with out issues. So for me, its the best pad ive owned. I keep a space blanket packed with it for colder trips that I lay out beneath the pad. This works out well. Cheap, lightish, and packs down smaller than an insulated pad.
Hey! That’s good to hear. What temperatures have you used it at? And does the space blanket make much difference? I wouldn’t expect that
Agree - my favorite sleep system is now the Neoair combined with Vesper quilt. The other thing I do is slide the pad inside a silk sleeping bag liner - super light and compact, and it means I’m sleeping under a down quilt and on top of a silk sheet - doesn’t get much more comfortable than that 😉
Holy…. Genius!
Great idea. I just got back from a Florida trip and while the mattress was ok, I would have preferred a liner. But I hate sleeping bags, hence the quilt. Putting the mattress inside the liner is pure genius.
I do have a version of the decathlon sleeping pad and have no troubles as a side sleeper so far. It has just enough thickness for me with about 62kg. Heavier people might need a thicker pad. The price to performance ratio is really good, if it can support you. I tried foam pads like the z lite and i can't make that work and they are also very bulky. The neo air is definitely something i might get, but it is also kinda hard to justify at that price.
I used a 1/8" foam pad for a CT trip. It was mostly psychological but it worked having my defined sleeping space. Usually found some sand or pile of pine needles for the actual cushioning.
I love my Paria outdoor ReCharge pad. Way less expensive, good R value, thick. Very comfortable. Laying on it right now about to go to bed.
For summer bikepack racing, my go to is still the Klymit Inertia X lite. It's packability on the bike is second to non. After a long day of riding the ease of inflation is a huge plus. Only down side for me is no padding on the knees, which I tend to wake up with sore knee caps (stomach sleeper). So I would consider the full-size inertia. But it has lasted many nights on the ground (no tent) and held up great. Probably over 60 days total on the pad. Would buy again
The REI Helix pad has been an incredible pad for the money. I've taken it down to 27 degrees. pretty comfortable. I tend to roll around in my sleep and thickness is super comfy .I like the baffle system. Air valves are great. l like it more then the Nemo tensor.
I've actually had a lot of success with the REI Flash Pad. Decent R-value for the price, and it's managed to keep me comfortable as a side sleeper.
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I have been using a Decathlon sleeping pad, a version older than the one in the video, and it is still in great condition. I love to bring it with me if I have a flight with a long connection 🙂
Def try the big agnes zoom ul or the rapide sl. Most comfortable pads I've ever used.
In the last year I’ve tried 2 pads camping roughly 100 nights bikepacking from California to Maine. I started with the Big Agnes pads excellent comfort, but I found it frustrating to lose air from a puncture in the middle of the night. I switched to a closed foam thermarest and have learned to love the reliability of closed cell foam. It’s not as cushy, but I’ve learned how to make my sleep space cozy.
One important skill to make any pad a bit more comfortable: prepare your sleep area by removing any twigs and cushion it with leaves (or any other plant debris, breaking up some rotting tree can actually be very cushy).
I have the Sea to Summit but the R value is pretty low and left me cold a lot on those cool summer nights in the mountains. (I also found it was best to inflate when setting up camp--then reinflate after eating/before laying down for the night.) I'm trying the Thermarest xlite now--but even the new "quieter" version is annoyingly loud. I wish I could make one of those foam thermarests work because they are so quick to pack up, but just can't figure out how to strap one on the bike in a good way (and they're not thick enough or warm enough for my old bones).
I have that big Agnes pad. Love it, but it does have the poorest inflation bag design. I also use it in the amuk Dramer hammock and love that option.
Nemo Tensor insulated. I'm on my 3rd one in 4 years from too many leaks but I just can't quit it!
You should try the Sea to Summit Ether light XT or the Insulated version, its thicker than the Thermarest and not a super loud chips bag like the Thermarest.
I think Therm-a-rest fixed that loud problem, the one I tested is not noticeably loud. Thanks for the recommendation.
Yep the new ones fixed that problem and are also warmer than the old ones. Having owned both S2S Ether light as well as a bunch of Thermarests nothing beats Big Agnes when it comes to comfort. For me: S2S Ether light: 8/10 in comfort and 10/10 in ease of use and 6/10 weight/warmth; Big Agnes: Comfort 10/10, Usability 7/10, weight/warmth 5/10; Thermarest NeoAir 6/10 comfort, 6/10 usability, 10/10 weight/warmth. That said the comfort of the Big Agnes makes me reach for it pretty much every time...
@@milkmanbenjawhich big agnes mattress is that ?
That Forclaz is now the MT500 and Decathlon has a new top of the line pad caled the MT900 (that solves the issue of falling between the grooves). Cheers from Portugal.
Must not be available on their website yet or at least in the United States. Thanks for sharing.
Many UL Hikers also use a thin 2-3oz. 1/8" foam pad to under lightweight inflatables to reduce punctures by about 80%. Increase the R value, reduce dirt and doubles as sit pad. Silver sharpie label one side as UP so only one side gets crud on it.
Good idea, I never leave home without Tyvek ground cloth now, just another barrier. I guess one thing I should mention is that if you use another foam pad as a sit pad/sleeping pad, make sure there is nothing stuck to it when you move it into your tent. I had to be really careful when I brought in my Big Agnes Foam sit pad into my tent during a few recent Arizona trips.
While I've used my NeoAir extensively, I plan to replace it with something else because the narrow shape doesn't work for me: even sleeping on my back my elbows are at the edge of the pad and they constantly slide off it (I'm 6'6", so not small). Plus it's an older model therefore noisy. I may replace it with a wider NeoAir, as the few extra grams for a good night's sleep is likely worth it for me. Though other comments here are giving me lots of other options to consider!
I’ve been using the Neo Air XTherm for awhile now. I finally found a pad that I stay warm on. The only downside is the noise when moving around on it. I’ve heard similar complaints about the X-Lite. Do you find that to be a problem?
I‘m with the Nemo Tensor UL insulated. With Exped I had too much quality problems. The x-lite has been too load and the big agnes axl air is sooooo cold brrr.
I used the NeoAir recently and have since sold it because I don't care for the tapered shape (kept rolling/falling off) and I found the fabric incredibly noisy/crunchy which interupted sleep. It's hard to deny its compact, lightweight and good R-value, but the comfort of sleep and good sleep made it unusable and frustrating. I have since bought an Exped wide pad for better sleep and am really enjoying it. Of course there's many options out there and it's hard to try all of them without significant financial investment.
I have a Therma-rest, too, with the same complaint. It's just not wide enough, and I'm not that big to begin with.
I also have an Exped pad and it is great, mine is the Versa 5R and it feels durable (my main concern in camping gear, I am not an UL camper) and comfortable, and doesn't sound like one was laying on a bag of crisps.
Same experience. Bought it because of the rave reviews, now disappointed for the same two reasons. And I'm not a big guy either (5'11/160lbs)
Had the same issue, but then I found the Xtherm Max Large. I am not rolling off that thing.
Never had a problem rolling off mine and the noise has never been an issue....I'm a light sleeper. No punctures and I have 100+ nights using it. I did get the women's version though which has a slightly higher r value of 5. Also, I'm strictly a side sleeper.
I use a Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Insulated. Ticks all the boxes for me. I'm 100kg, a cold and side sleeper for reference. Very quick and easy to inflate with the pump sack and then tweak the amount of air to get comfortable. My S2S pillow stays put with the pillow lock and I get a good nights sleep. Have used it on a few cold nights and never got cold. The only other pad I've tried is a NatureHike one I got on special and it doesn't compare...
A welded seam in my Exped Winterlite Synmat let go one night when hammock camping. I thought I'd been shot such as the bang and the sudden redistribution of air almost threw me out onto the ground😱
In hindsight ,pulling the rolled up mat out of my seat pack repeatedly probably weakened the seam. I loved that pad😢
I have used several pads the the one I use the most is the Klymit Static V pad for price, inflation and quality.
Was hoping to see your take on the Nemo Tensor - maybe next time!
Just got that one after this video.
@@BIKEPACKINGcom Awesome! Keep up the great work! Cheers from the East Coast!
I find most pads to narrow. When I lay on my back my arms fall beside the pad.. which is not only awkward, but cold as well. Extra wide pads are fine (but at a cost of extra weight of course)
Here is my experience;
thermarest pads roll your body weight side to side due to Tubular length cells. They also require more thermal insulation because of cool air transfer from side of pad to your center.
NEMO Tensor and BA having baffled or pleated const. don't because of closed cells that don't transfer air as quickly. Stress on the welds and their failure is a problem with these pads.
I choose baffled for short trips and tubular for longer trips.
That’s timely, I’ve been looking for a new sleeping mat. Finding mine is too cold. Would you say the neo air xlite is a bit of an all rounder? Can a higher r value in the summer make it too hot to sleep?
I'd go with a high R value pad, and then a couple of different sleeping bags/quits. Potentially even combining a quilt on top of a sleeping bag.
@@alexdrinkwater28 cheers. I’ve got a couple of different bags. Just the mat I have seems to let a lot of cold temps through. It is very light and has no rating. So it’s time to try something else for everything other then summer
Thermorest X-Therm Max. Wide warm and durable.
Best advice I have is to go for a wide pad, even if your an athletic build.
How about the Nemo Tensor?
That’s the only pad I use and the only one I trust. We'll have more on the subject on the site soon.
@@pedalingnowhere I'm excited for their new Nemo Tensor Trail version coming out early next year.
@@alexdrinkwater28 Interesting. I haven't heard of that one yet
I used the insulated version for bikepacking in Iceland in summer and it was superb.
Trekology pads from Amazon are amazing
Could you talk about camping in hammocks? How good a sleep can you have in a hammock?
I've only had a few nights in them, was not a fan, that was maybe 8 years ago now, so perhaps its worth another shot...
Sea to Summit all the way!
What about Exped ?
What about the noise? Just moving around in your sleep-even a little-causes a loud racket from some sleeping pads. Have you ever experienced this...or am I the single light sleeper?
Yeah, the neo air is comfy, till it gets a micro puncture and deflated over a couple of hours. Try finding that sucker. ((Weeps with frustration)) 😬
if you cant find it, dump it in the bath tub and look for the bubbles.
Mine is Naturehike fc-10
6,5 cm and 550 grams. $25
My camp sleeping problems were all solved with a hammock.
Do you carry an insulating layer for beneath you (against the hammock)? If so, what do you use? In fall/winter here in the PNW, hammock camping is great with the abundance of trees, but it can get cold without still bringing a pad.
I tried that one, it was a while ago and it kept me up at night, but perhaps it's time to try it again. Do you use a pad inside or no? I did both at one point and couldn't get comfortable either way.
Twin sized air mattress
Totally agree with @bvan1970. After multiple days touring around Door County WI and the UP of MI region, I found the tensor to pack down really well and blow up surprising quick! Yes, its on the thinner side but it checks all the boxes for me - light, durable, quiet and thick (enough). No punctures yet and to be honest, that was my biggest worry when purchased (feels really thin to touch) from REI at the gearage sale for $85. STEAL.
Neo air is great when it holds air but it always gets punctures with me and I do a good job of prepping my site.
One puncture was so small it took an act of god to find it.
Too fragile in my book!
Exped Ultra. Next question?
For areas that require it, what’s the best way to pack your poop out?
@@BIKEPACKINGcom 30 x 20cm tray, about 5-6cm evenly across. Bake for 30 mins at 200c.
your rig must be heavy with an oven.
Korean glamping style. Take the whole kitchen. @@BIKEPACKINGcom
I wish I could carry a canvas cutter
wow, those things are wild. Thanks for the share.
Therm-a-rest NeoAir Xlite NXT Sleeping Pad
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