Doesn't work because it depends on the surface you put the matress on. Besides, if you look at sleeping bags, temperature ranges are total BS. Companies can put whatever they want on it. Some use comfort, some use limit, but most of them use extreme, because then the bag loosk warmer then it actually is.
Thanks for the side to side. I've been using a Mtn Equip COOP Reactor for years which finally split and delaminated even though I stored it valve open. I'm only 5'8" and found an XLite size small, at a really cut price even though I replaced my Reactor with a TR Pro Lite+. I'm coupling XLite with a Big Agnus Twister Cane. I sleep hot, so.... I was concerned about the small size but I had a surprisingly comfortable sleep using it at home with an optimum inflation pressure for my size. I don't mind the inflation valve configuration. Nice tight seal, anyway. Have yet to do dirt time with it. Great review. Super review when you did the MSR Dragonfly too.
Neoair is for most campers. Xtherm is definitely overkill, unless you’re camping in the snow. Other than that save yourself a few bucks and go with the air.
That'd work with bulkier pads, but most thermorests pack small enough that the bag wouldn't be too useful as a pump. My uberlight short gets down to about the size of a can of soup.
@@gadblatz4841 Sea to Summit has the stuff sack that extends to become larger so part of the stuff sack is part of the whole pump sack. So instead of a small stuff sack and a larger pump, they have a small stuff sack and a another part that pull out when you open the draw string that extends and when is extended is about the same size as thermas stuff pump sack. It’s their pack size Matt. Not the big bulky ones.
hello! i was interested in those ones but once you said it is noisy i dont like... what would be your suggest for a regular wide/large size pad with "6 cm ground to body" and not too heavy (mayne 500 gr to 800 gr) thank you so much in advance!!
I've had 3 xlites and 10 uberlites and blew them all up my mouth. after each one dies/fails/gets retired, I cut them open and zero mold. Now eventually (100+ nights) they get a little heavier due to the buildup of moisture (about.6 of an oz), but that can be removed by blowing up with the pumpsack that comes with it several times in a dry environment and letting it sit till the air is saturated.. then letting the air out.
There's no such thing as too warm for a sleeping pad, the only thing a sleeping pad does is resist heat flow from your body to the ground when the ground is colder. So basically it can keep you warm when you need it, but it won't make you feel warmer in the summer.
I think about this: you don't change your home mattress in the summer, and most home mattresses are far more insulated than any sleeping pad, so I don't think it really matters that much.
@@tomsk7666 your home mattress isn’t outside in 80-90 degree weather, it’s in a temperature-regulated room. I could see the fact that it reflects body heat back up to you being problematic in hot weather, but that’s my totally non-scientific speculation. I haven’t slept extensively on either.
Instead of “three-season” and “four-season”, I’d like to hear temperature ranges.
Doesn't work because it depends on the surface you put the matress on. Besides, if you look at sleeping bags, temperature ranges are total BS. Companies can put whatever they want on it. Some use comfort, some use limit, but most of them use extreme, because then the bag loosk warmer then it actually is.
Just got an Neoair for $99!!!! That’s a steal!
Thanks for the side to side. I've been using a Mtn Equip COOP Reactor for years which finally split and delaminated even though I stored it valve open. I'm only 5'8" and found an XLite size small, at a really cut price even though I replaced my Reactor with a TR Pro Lite+. I'm coupling XLite with a Big Agnus Twister Cane. I sleep hot, so.... I was concerned about the small size but I had a surprisingly comfortable sleep using it at home with an optimum inflation pressure for my size. I don't mind the inflation valve configuration. Nice tight seal, anyway. Have yet to do dirt time with it. Great review. Super review when you did the MSR Dragonfly too.
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Neoair is for most campers. Xtherm is definitely overkill, unless you’re camping in the snow. Other than that save yourself a few bucks and go with the air.
Wish they made the pump sack as part of the stuff sack like sea to summit.
That'd work with bulkier pads, but most thermorests pack small enough that the bag wouldn't be too useful as a pump. My uberlight short gets down to about the size of a can of soup.
@@gadblatz4841 Sea to Summit has the stuff sack that extends to become larger so part of the stuff sack is part of the whole pump sack. So instead of a small stuff sack and a larger pump, they have a small stuff sack and a another part that pull out when you open the draw string that extends and when is extended is about the same size as thermas stuff pump sack. It’s their pack size Matt. Not the big bulky ones.
hello! i was interested in those ones but once you said it is noisy i dont like... what would be your suggest for a regular wide/large size pad with "6 cm ground to body" and not too heavy (mayne 500 gr to 800 gr) thank you so much in advance!!
Whats the weight capacity of these pads?
Don't use your mouth as it will introduce moisture. Then can mold
doest cause mold . thats wat thermarest say .
It’s more so a factor of introducing moisture into the pad which can reduce the R value. Mold isn’t really an issue
@@timg7627 thermarest say it dont
I've had 3 xlites and 10 uberlites and blew them all up my mouth. after each one dies/fails/gets retired, I cut them open and zero mold. Now eventually (100+ nights) they get a little heavier due to the buildup of moisture (about.6 of an oz), but that can be removed by blowing up with the pumpsack that comes with it several times in a dry environment and letting it sit till the air is saturated.. then letting the air out.
@@albertfinney1272 10 uberlights!
Does the xtherm feel too warm in the summer?
There's no such thing as too warm for a sleeping pad, the only thing a sleeping pad does is resist heat flow from your body to the ground when the ground is colder. So basically it can keep you warm when you need it, but it won't make you feel warmer in the summer.
@@nz3777 I heard from other people that the xtherm was actually too warm for them in the summer, but experiences differ between people
I think about this: you don't change your home mattress in the summer, and most home mattresses are far more insulated than any sleeping pad, so I don't think it really matters that much.
@@tomsk7666 your home mattress isn’t outside in 80-90 degree weather, it’s in a temperature-regulated room. I could see the fact that it reflects body heat back up to you being problematic in hot weather, but that’s my totally non-scientific speculation. I haven’t slept extensively on either.
I would also be interested to know this - does anyone have experience of using an Xtherm in hot weather?
Are you wearing Vivo Barefoot boots?
Both pads are not even close to wide enough!
They sell wide version of regular size or get large size