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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
  • Being impaired while doing a very important job adds a lot of risk and this is a scenario I had never really considered as a pilot.
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  • @Laciesgrl33
    @Laciesgrl33 Год назад +2576

    Congratulations Captain Kelsey. The 74gear community is so proud of you.

    • @T-Chair
      @T-Chair Год назад +62

      Totally, those bars look real good and well earned

    • @robertedison4814
      @robertedison4814 Год назад +65

      @@T-Chair...4 STRIPES was the first thing I noticed on this excellent episode!!!!!

    • @Fastvoice
      @Fastvoice Год назад +18

      @@robertedison4814 He already had them on the episode before. 😉

    • @darringreen8630
      @darringreen8630 Год назад +40

      Guys, he was drunk and stole the captain's epaulets.

    • @joshilini2
      @joshilini2 Год назад +8

      Nice if he would respond to these comments . . .

  • @stellardendrite
    @stellardendrite Год назад +569

    Congrats on the 4th bar, that's freakin' awesome!
    I'm ground-based EMS, and if it hadn't been hours and hours of this controller sounding this way, I'd have guessed he was having a stroke or some other neurological or diabetic/metabolic emergency. I don't know if we'll ever find out what was going on with him, but hopefully it was handled appropriately and everyone was okay!

    • @phillipwells6758
      @phillipwells6758 Год назад +85

      I am a retired firefighter and have been an EMT since 1980. I am also a private pilot though not current for a while. The most disturbing thing about this whole story, too me, is how no one thought to ask for someone to check on this controller for hours. Or so it seems. Very sad.

    • @indahooddererste
      @indahooddererste Год назад +22

      @@phillipwells6758 I remember this clip from VAS where an atc in Las Vegas Aiport had a stroke and they called the company to take care of that.

    • @douglasphillips1203
      @douglasphillips1203 Год назад +19

      ⁠@@indahooddererste The LAS incident wasn't a stroke. From what I read at the time it happened, they were drunk, it wasn't the first time it had happened, and the person was fired. Apparently there was a lot of other drama around it as well that was discussed on pilot forums. A lot of it was deleted for legal reasons but there are comments regarding it on that VAS video.

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 Год назад

      ​@@phillipwells6758exactly! I would have called in right away.

    • @deeponchaudhuri106
      @deeponchaudhuri106 Год назад +7

      Neurology Resident here. Frontal lobar strokes do occur even though they are rare.
      It's definitely an interesting case if it is not explained by toxins and metabolic disorders.

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 Год назад +1098

    good on you for making it clear there are medical issues that can seem similar to a person being drunk.

    • @shadowprince4482
      @shadowprince4482 Год назад +78

      Yep, I have a speech impediment and sometimes get low blood sugar. Oddly enough 1 or 2 beers helps my speech but it falls off pretty quickly after that. So people constantly think I'm drunk except for when I've actually had a little alcohol. It's super annoying especially because I also have a general tremor in my hand which alcohol also usually but not always fixes.

    • @jennifercoulter6886
      @jennifercoulter6886 Год назад +58

      Sounds a lot like a diabetic with low blood sugar

    • @factzilla1868
      @factzilla1868 Год назад +64

      Quito's altitude can also cause hypoxia/mountain sickness in even healthy individuals and exacerbate those medical issues. symptoms include confusion as well as impaired judgement to realize what's happening (hence the value of hypoxia training)

    • @autohitman
      @autohitman Год назад +31

      There is a very good video on RUclips with air traffic control who was having a medical emergency. It sounded very similar to this controller. I’m sure you can search for it and find it. It was a great video.

    • @rationalbushcraft
      @rationalbushcraft Год назад +58

      Low blood sugar normally doesn't last for hours like this. Either it keeps dropping until you pass out and eventually die or someone recognizes it and gives you some candy or juice. What I find more disconcerting is that this lasted for hours. No pilot who heard this did anything? How would any of these people felt if a couple of planes full of people collided? Not only would I have not taken off I would have called right away and got someone out there ASAP before someone got killed. To me that is the big story here.

  • @MoMadNU
    @MoMadNU Год назад +366

    In November 2018 the tower controller at Las Vegas International was having a stroke. What ensued was nothing short of amazing, as there were aircraft both on the ground and in the air at the time. The pilots involved switched to the CTAF and ran the whole operation as if it were a non-towered airport. The dialog sounds like everyone was in a single engine prop aircraft flying GA and everything was nominal. It's really worth a listen.

    • @slappymcgillicuddy7532
      @slappymcgillicuddy7532 Год назад +14

      she had been under the influence as well since she was terminated shortly after.

    • @CapStar362
      @CapStar362 Год назад +28

      @@slappymcgillicuddy7532 she wasnt terminated either, she resigned and then disappeared before they could even properly terminate her.

    • @computer_toucher
      @computer_toucher Год назад +10

      Link?

    • @CapStar362
      @CapStar362 Год назад

      @@computer_toucher google it, every single one of them says she resigned before the FAA could even start the investigation, but there are a few links still lurking around of aviation forums and other controllers talking about the ACTUAL events people who actually knew her personally.
      My cousin is a controller and sent me a photo back then from a few months after -
      Its a nationwide Trespass Warning and BOLO for others. It's got her name and her photo on it.

    • @circuitgamer7759
      @circuitgamer7759 9 месяцев назад +15

      @@computer_toucher It's been 3 months and still nobody has shared a link... If there is one, have you found it, or has anyone else found it? I found one short article briefly mention it, and that's it.

  • @Vivien1501
    @Vivien1501 11 месяцев назад +29

    Whooaaa.... something extra YELLOW has landed on your shoulder's. Huge congratulations, looking 'great' Captain Kelsey!

  • @jdonovan74
    @jdonovan74 Год назад +3304

    I see 4 bars on the uniform!

    • @randallsluder8289
      @randallsluder8289 Год назад +86

      Yes, what’s up with the 4 stripes?

    • @davids5006
      @davids5006 Год назад +421

      @@randallsluder8289he made Captain

    • @firefly4f4
      @firefly4f4 Год назад +182

      Those were there last week too. 👍 🌝

    • @baseballmomof8
      @baseballmomof8 Год назад +111

      Yes. Those showed up last week.

    • @kiloyardstare
      @kiloyardstare Год назад +155

      Despite all his YT shenanigans!

  • @kathleenlyle281
    @kathleenlyle281 Год назад +412

    Congratulations Captain Kelsey. My son-in-law is a commercial pilot and a captain and I am just as happy for you. Our family knows how hard you've worked and you seem just as kind as our son-in-law and we send Christmas blessings to you

    • @abdosimon
      @abdosimon Год назад +14

      What a nice message. All the best for your son in law.

    • @susansoper9818
      @susansoper9818 Год назад +5

      ⁠congratulations and on your fourth stripe. Did you get a raise too?

    • @Sinister_fartbox
      @Sinister_fartbox Год назад +4

      Kelsey doesn’t give a fuck

  • @ABQSentinel
    @ABQSentinel Год назад +46

    Merry Christmas, Kelsey, and congratulations again on making Captain!

  • @andrest2003
    @andrest2003 Год назад +27

    I live in Quito and did flight school here at the old airport which was even higher, this was a huge shame down here and well, the guy was fired. Saludos Capitan Kelsey !

    • @takane151
      @takane151 6 месяцев назад +7

      Was he drunk or having some medical issue?

    • @deborahchesser7375
      @deborahchesser7375 14 дней назад

      @@takane151 I’m guessing drunk if he was fired, they probably wouldn’t have fired him for a medical issue.

  • @andreaguillade7120
    @andreaguillade7120 8 месяцев назад +21

    Congrats on the 4 bars!!! A few years ago I had a stroke, I had no massive symptoms, I just sounded drunk because I slurred my speech and I had a hard time finding the words I wanted to form at times, then other times I was fine, and I felt relatively fine... no weakness on one side of the body, no face muscle laxness... the kind of things you look for if you suspect a stroke... it took almost a whole day for me to realise that something might be wrong and go to the ER just in case... clinical examination cleared me, it was only after the MRI that they found out I had had quite a large ischemic stroke. Good for you to be cautious and not just assume this ATC was drunk

  • @theoriginaldude1805
    @theoriginaldude1805 Год назад +109

    *Congratulations, Captain Kelsey for your promotion* ❤🎉❤
    *You deserve every bit of it. Those 4 bars suits you perfectly* ❤

    • @lessharratt8719
      @lessharratt8719 Год назад +3

      Wow. YEA!!!! I don't sub to this channel, But I love it. Congratulations CAPTAIN Kelsey.

  • @danmartens8855
    @danmartens8855 Год назад +203

    Kelsey, you are the biggest recruiter they have. They should pay you.
    I knew a pilot very well back in the day. He said that if a fellow pilot showed up drunk he would suddenly "acquire" a violent stomachache and leave the plane.

    • @gijbuis
      @gijbuis Год назад +6

      Sounds as though he has experience of fellow pilots turning up drunk... sure, happens everyday!

    • @imbwildrd3693
      @imbwildrd3693 Год назад +15

      it's pretty disgusting to know that your pilot friend had no concerns about the passengers on the airplane he was happy to let a drunk pilot fly.

    • @killeverything200
      @killeverything200 Год назад +13

      ​@@imbwildrd3693He said he didn't though

    • @ChadDidNothingWrong
      @ChadDidNothingWrong Год назад +4

      You sure like assuming things. Kind of being a drama queen if you aren't even gonna ask any details before getting huffy over something that probably happened before you were even born....

    • @devotchkac8365
      @devotchkac8365 Год назад +16

      ​@@imbwildrd3693how do you know he didn't just use that as an excuse to avoid confrontation with someone under the influence, to then leave the cockpit to go notify someone?

  • @rikko9219
    @rikko9219 Год назад +30

    wait... THOSE ARE 4 STRIPES!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! Merry Christmas and happy new year Kelsey and everybody.

    • @baseballmomof8
      @baseballmomof8 Год назад +5

      Yes. They showed up last week. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @SydMountaineer
    @SydMountaineer Месяц назад +9

    A lone, impaired/ ill controller at Quito (already nearly 2 miles high in altitude, on a hill with a very steep canyon on short final) with dangerous wind, guiding you into a narrow, 3 sided “box” of mountains is the stuff of *nightmares.*

  • @emhoj97
    @emhoj97 Год назад +89

    Congratulation on your promotion, CAPTAIN Kelsey 🎉 Well deserved, and wishing many happy days to come 😊

  • @martyrichardson8851
    @martyrichardson8851 Год назад +74

    Glad to see they finally gave you that 4th bar. TY for all you do keeping us informed.

    • @KentTexas
      @KentTexas Год назад +7

      They didn't GIVE it to him! He EARNED it!!

    • @MultiChrisjb
      @MultiChrisjb Год назад +3

      @@KentTexas i've always wanted to own a bar.

    • @Optimus-Prime-Rib
      @Optimus-Prime-Rib Год назад

      @@KentTexaswas about to write that myself.

  • @Slartibartifast
    @Slartibartifast Год назад +82

    CA of a B747. Congrats!!!! As a Former FA, it is always sooo wonderful to see an FO take the Right Seat!!! I've been following your channel for years and to you SIR Congratulations!!!

    • @Slartibartifast
      @Slartibartifast Год назад +8

      Now tell us your becoming a Captain story!!!!

    • @Philip_J
      @Philip_J Год назад +14

      Don't you mean the left seat ;D

    • @paulis7319
      @paulis7319 Год назад +6

      @@Philip_J maybe this is his day off and his turn to be drunk. 🤣

    • @jenv4074
      @jenv4074 Год назад +5

      ​@@Philip_Jjust means the "correct" seat!!

  • @mysticlv1
    @mysticlv1 Год назад +21

    Congratulations on making Captain Kelsey, You made it. Great job! The Strips look good on you.

  • @Jack777760
    @Jack777760 6 месяцев назад +16

    I am 42 years Left Seat, and I find your program both entertaining and very well presented. Please let's have lots more.

  • @comicus01
    @comicus01 Год назад +129

    Kelsey: I work as a RN, I think the best word you are looking for is "Altered". Altered Mental Status is often listed as the chief complaint for a patient presenting to the ER. And is sometimes the admitting diagnosis if they can't sort it out in the ER (but they will have ruled out the easy diagnoses such as a stroke or hypoglycemia). Possibilities that come to mind as to why he was altered: Alcohol, street drugs, prescription drugs, low blood sugar (hypoglycemia), stroke/CVA/TIA, infection (UTIs in particular are known for making some people altered). Could even possibly be something cardiac related. My best guess is alcohol, 2nd guess is a stroke/CVA of some sort.
    If I were a pilot, knowing how strict airlines and the FAA are about following proper procedures, I would have been scared as hell if I were trying to land. And not sure I would have taken off either. I would have hoped that once those guys landed that they tried to call the tower or talk to airport operations. How was he ever allowed to stay up there for hours???
    And congratulations on the promotion!

    • @Fireandbubbles
      @Fireandbubbles Год назад +9

      Night shift nurse. Sounds the most like he didn’t sleep last night, tbh.

    • @mike406
      @mike406 Год назад +2

      Ok so out of this huge paragraph we’ve determined that there is one out of a hundred possibilities someone could be speaking like this. Truly groundbreaking. You can’t diagnose someone based off audio alone.

    • @comicus01
      @comicus01 Год назад +10

      @@Fireandbubbles I'm night shift as well, and I can't say I have sleepy patients sounding like that. Though I do have a friend when she's really sleep deprived will sound a bit like that controller and become a bit delirious. But he didn't sound sleepy to me.

    • @comicus01
      @comicus01 Год назад +22

      @@mike406 We can't, correct. That's why I said the best umbrella term is "Altered". Saying someone is altered is a description of their symptoms, not a true diagnosis.

    • @deeponchaudhuri106
      @deeponchaudhuri106 Год назад +11

      Neurology Resident here. I agree. Needs thorough clinical evaluation.

  • @Parawingdelta2
    @Parawingdelta2 Год назад +29

    That's what nightmares are made of. My father was an air traffic controller in the Royal Air Force. He told of an occasion where a Senior Air Traffic Controller (SATCO) was in the tower on duty, He was a Polish ex WW2 fighter pilot who no longer had flying status and had assumed ATC duties. As a result of the situation on the day, this officer got so confused and exasperated he started communicating with aircrew in Polish! He was removed from his chair by subordinate staff immediately.
    First thing I noticed was the extra bars. Congratulations.

  • @keithbrown9198
    @keithbrown9198 Год назад +271

    I earned my PPL in the Philippines back in the 80s at Clark AB. On a dual cross-country, we were inbound to San Fernando, La Union, which had a tower, and got no answer to radio calls. We entered a right downwind and looked for light gun signals. Nothing. Now, my instructor was a helicopter pilot that served in Vietnam, so he was not about to be deterred. We landed without a clearance and taxied up to the base of the tower, shut down and walked to to the entrance and were greeted by a very drunk air traffic controller, who invited us up to the cab. There were three (or four, I don't remember exactly) with a bottle of Tanduay rum, almost empty. Apparently it was a Filipino holiday that even my instructor wasn't aware of. He asked if they had heard our radio calls. "Yes, we hear you but our radios don't work". He asked about the light gun. "She no work either." So I'm asking myself, WTF are you guys even here for?? Then they asked us for money for more rum. My instructor peeled off a 100 peso note ($4 at the time) without hesitation, after all, we had landed without clearance. Smiles all around and we departed, but not before we asked the drunk controllers if we could do so. "Sure, no problem Joe". Ay yay yay, flying in the third world is interesting.

    • @ViceCityMasta
      @ViceCityMasta Год назад +21

      So your instructor encouraged their dangerous behavior by giving them money for more alcohol to drink while working? That's nice

    • @keithbrown9198
      @keithbrown9198 Год назад +13

      @@Dennis_The_Dude Ever been there? I lived there for 3 years. My whole family is Filipino, wife and kids. I'm quite comfortable with my assessment.

    • @keithbrown9198
      @keithbrown9198 Год назад +31

      @@ViceCityMasta We were probably the only aircraft that would land that day. It was basically a bribe to avoid trouble. You have to understand how things work there. They couldn't talk to any airplanes nor had any way to control them. Safety was not compromised. I had more hazardous encounters with local pilots at uncontrolled airports.

    • @krisk1547
      @krisk1547 Год назад +5

      ​@@Dennis_The_Dude it kinda is. Not as bad as some but there is lots of poverty and not so much for country's economy.
      I am still thinking to retire there. Can't afford to live in second world country canada😅

    • @luminisant
      @luminisant Год назад

      canada is first world and a whole hell of a lot better to retire in than the phillipines lol @@krisk1547

  • @196cupcake
    @196cupcake Год назад +53

    I used to drive busses for the university bus system, and when working the "drunk bus" 10pm-2am Fri/Sat shift, you'd report at the office at 10pm but wouldn't start driving until midnight. In part, it was an incentive - watch a movie or whatever while still getting paid - but it was also so that they could make sure you were sober enough to drive the bus.

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z Год назад +2

      why not just do mandatory breathalyser tests?

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Год назад +1

      Clever

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Год назад +4

      @@jort93zyou know only the police had those until recently right? Couldn’t buy them at Walmart

    • @tritontransport
      @tritontransport Год назад

      @@M_SCyep and you have to be certified to use them legally and a breathalyzer isn’t even legal admissible evidence for police since they aren’t medically certified which is why police can only use them as probable cause to arrest you then you have to go have anBAC test done by a blood test

    • @tritontransport
      @tritontransport Год назад

      @@jort93zemployers can’t just give breathalyzer tests because they’re not considered proof or evidence of anything and they aren’t medical professional and those test kits can be manipulated to give false readings. They can’t even be used in court as evidence

  • @ko4kin
    @ko4kin Год назад +9

    Four Stripes? Nice! Congratulations!

  • @arianakbarian
    @arianakbarian Год назад +18

    Congratulations Captain on the four stripes😉. It's an honor to be part of this journey with 74gear.

  • @UTarcher72
    @UTarcher72 Год назад +19

    4 bars, and you let your hair grow out!! Outstanding work Kelsey! Keep up the good work!!

  • @patriciavankampen6136
    @patriciavankampen6136 Год назад +33

    I'm from the Netherlands and i remember during the Covid pandemic a small plane pilot got clearance to access Schiphol Airport (Amsterdam) airspace to just fly around . He took pictures and video showing a completelly desserted airport. It's was unreal to see, but for this pilot an once in a lifetime oppurtunity. When you mentioned that you could taxi at will when you where in Amsterdam i had to think of this pilot

    • @modavies8401
      @modavies8401 10 месяцев назад +2

      During the Icelandic eruptions.LBA, Bradford, closed, and refused all traffic entry. LHR London Heathrow invited any piston engined private aircraft aircraft to carry out missed approaches, with the caveat that touching the runway would result in a four figure landing fee.

  • @kamikazinyc
    @kamikazinyc Год назад +16

    Whoa, congrats captain, just noticed the extra strip!❤

  • @Gnosch
    @Gnosch Год назад +9

    Congratulations on your promotion to captain, very well deserved and I had tears in my eyes when I saw it!
    Cheers from Germany!

  • @larryfromtoledo
    @larryfromtoledo Год назад +19

    You are my hero. Had my sights on a career towards the 747 freighter before 9/11. Made it to 727 FO and got diabetes. By the time I got it under control everything was shut down and I had to start over with a new Company. Didn't work out and now I fly via RUclips. Keep healthy!

    • @JSB2500
      @JSB2500 11 месяцев назад +1

      Oh Larry, what a life story! Something a bit similar happened to me around the same time, though I didn't get as far as you. At least you seem happy now!

  • @Les__Mack
    @Les__Mack Год назад +30

    I'm always drunk when I watch your videos so this is right up my alley! Thanks for another great video!

    • @johnstreet797
      @johnstreet797 Год назад +6

      You might consider flying for underground airways, "the impossible way to fly"

  • @peggyh8937
    @peggyh8937 Год назад +244

    I don't understand how this could go on hours. The very first plane that had contact should have alerted someone to check on the tower. This is scary! Thanks, Kelsey and congratulations Captain! Happy Holidays to all!

    • @Mebsuta
      @Mebsuta Год назад

      Call me a rightoid, but I blame PC culture. You don't want to be that white guy that accuses the latino worker of being compromised in their position.

    • @justiceBustamante
      @justiceBustamante Год назад +12

      I don't understand how this video can go on for what SEEMED like hours

    • @mowtivatedmechanic1172
      @mowtivatedmechanic1172 Год назад

      Alert who exactly?

    • @donkey7921
      @donkey7921 Год назад

      @@mowtivatedmechanic1172 watch the video.

    • @aserta
      @aserta Год назад +41

      @@mowtivatedmechanic1172 Dispatch, which then works their magic. Like Kelsey said. You're the pilot, you don't have to deal with this, so don't.

  • @HughPlatt-g5u
    @HughPlatt-g5u Год назад +295

    Good morning, Captain!
    Still so excited for you on earning the 4th bar, but now we’re worried: isn’t it tough to go from being the FO with the highest seniority to now the Captain with the least? Tell us about it, please!
    Wishing you happy holidays and a great new year. Blue side up, always!

    • @WithmeVerissimusWhostoned
      @WithmeVerissimusWhostoned Год назад +14

      dayum, I just noticed too! Amazing!.. Congrats Kelsey! And Merry Christmas! \o/

    • @davids5006
      @davids5006 Год назад +47

      Yeah he's modest it seems, last 2 videos he's sporting them but not mentioned it

    • @butchieblock9118
      @butchieblock9118 Год назад +30

      ​@@davids5006 Yes, quite true!! That's part of the reason he's so LIKABLE!!!

    • @davids5006
      @davids5006 Год назад +14

      @@butchieblock9118 I'm guessing he's probably walking a little differently though lol I would be

    • @sendthis9480
      @sendthis9480 Год назад +31

      @@davids5006
      “Honey…can you take out the trash”
      “Ummmm…didn’t you see this 4th bar”?!?!

  • @SpaceCadet2569
    @SpaceCadet2569 Год назад +24

    Congratulations to our very own Captain Kelsey. May your sky always be blue and your landings be soft like butter

  • @Chefin243
    @Chefin243 Год назад +6

    I've missed only this single video and missed the most important part: Captain Kelsey! 👏👍 Congratulations, such a wonderful milestone! Always have safe landings! 😊

  • @JamieMSFS
    @JamieMSFS Год назад +32

    Congrats on becoming a captain!

  • @enigmawyoming5201
    @enigmawyoming5201 Год назад +39

    CAPTAIN KELSEY! ! Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉!

  • @MikeOhhhh
    @MikeOhhhh Год назад +11

    Congratulations on the left seat Kelsey! This situation is important as we constantly evaluate our information that’s transmitted. Excellent video!

  • @eduardootero2953
    @eduardootero2953 Год назад +7

    Congrats Capt. Kelsey! The best of luck and God speed on all your flights.

  • @yammt3148
    @yammt3148 Год назад +25

    "Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit drinking."

  • @lawsonic
    @lawsonic Год назад +25

    You're not a doctor, but you are, now a Captain!

  • @AusNetFan13
    @AusNetFan13 Год назад +14

    Greetings Kelsey. Again, congratulations on becoming a Captain. You deserve it. Wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Be safe out there during this season. 🎄🎊👍

  • @FredFolkerts
    @FredFolkerts Год назад +16

    AMAZING explanation on what is going on, what a pilot is expecting, and your facial expressions when something doesn't sound right is spot on.

  • @MrJdsenior
    @MrJdsenior 9 месяцев назад +4

    A pilot should be REQUIRED to report such a problem, preferably before somebody dies. The fact that this went on for hours is a horrific safety loophole in procedure. When a controller is making multiple mistakes of the level of calling our a runway that doesn't exist at the airport, confusing aircraft, and failing to give out standard info, especially after having been asked for it, that is definitely a problem. It could also be a life threatening situation for the controller, like blood sugar, one you mentioned, which can quickly be life threatening. The next step there, shortly after the kind of thing you are hearing here, is lapsing into a low blood sugar coma, which leaves no controller at the airport, and if emergency medical personnel take a little too long to get there, death.

  • @georgiadavis8600
    @georgiadavis8600 Год назад +14

    Congrats on making captain. Lots of hard work finally paid off.

  • @BugSmasher9
    @BugSmasher9 Год назад +10

    Congrats Captain Kelsey! I have been waiting for this moment for a long time! Well Done!😀

  • @waynekotyk5233
    @waynekotyk5233 Год назад +27

    Congrats on #4. Well deserved. Looks great on you. I am a retired first responder and it was always a proud moment getting an advanced epaulet or medal. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Fly safe!

  • @mishkamcivor409
    @mishkamcivor409 Год назад +117

    Astounded that not a single pilot that flew in or out of that airport whilst this was ongoing for at least an hour thought to let anyone know what was going on, if this controller was having a stroke or diabetic emergency he could have died without prompt medical attention not to mention any of the issues of having someone clearly impaired from their job controlling comercial traffic. Hope the guy was ok and glad nothing bad happened in the meantime.

    • @sunshineflyer
      @sunshineflyer Год назад +6

      It is unbelievably strange.

    • @hadevos
      @hadevos Год назад +7

      Exactly what I was thinking. Apparently the pilots are so used to almost inaudible controllers (which often amazes me) that this doesn't alarm them.

    • @anteshell
      @anteshell Год назад +3

      @@hadevos Inaudible? Do you mean incomprehesive? The sound volume has nothing to do with this, and if the tower speaks too quietly, there is volume controllers in the plane to compensate.

    • @EricLondaits
      @EricLondaits Год назад +5

      I guess it's because they decided to take off or land... so now they have to claim nothing was off, otherwise they would be responsible for the decision they made, in knowing that the ATC was incapacitated to perform their task. Really bad.

    • @hadevos
      @hadevos Год назад +1

      ​@@anteshell - I used the same word as used in the transcripts in the video (see 10:08 for example). But I have to say I was already doubting about using this word, because I thought of the same meaning you are mentioning. However, one could debate that this is not about comprehending, because that would come after you hear what the controller is saying. In this case you hear that the controller is saying something, but you don't hear what he is saying, let alone comprehend what he means.

  • @DillandShaj
    @DillandShaj Год назад +18

    Just wanna say the video production quality and the animations have improved massively, it's impressive! Also congratulations on your 4th stripe!

  • @dantemoose420
    @dantemoose420 Год назад +7

    Just recently discovered your channel, been spending the last week binge watching it while studying for my O&P'S. Gotta say, you've got a *very* soothing voice to study to. Thanks for making these, as a maintenance tech, it's interesting to see more of the pilots side of things.

  • @Dudee78
    @Dudee78 Год назад +27

    Congratulations Captain Kelsey!!!!!!!!!!! Very proud of you.

  • @rhennaostrander5910
    @rhennaostrander5910 Год назад +82

    Someone should have called to see what the heck was going on with this controller. If something would’ve happened, I think they would’ve felt guilty for not doing anything.

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 Год назад +5

      Like in Vegas, they went to CTAF operations while some airline dispatcher called the medics

    • @clockworkvanhellsing372
      @clockworkvanhellsing372 Год назад +8

      Yeah, I really don't understand how this could go on for hours without someone (like the pilots in the delta plane waiting to taxi) calling emergency services or somebody at all to check on the tower. It reminds me of the controller who had a heart attack, if nobody had cecked on her, she could have easily died.

    • @DaBoaringDragon
      @DaBoaringDragon Год назад +1

      @@clockworkvanhellsing372Do we know they didn’t call it in? Could be they did, but everything else in the chain of getting that guy out of there got bogged down somehow?

    • @clockworkvanhellsing372
      @clockworkvanhellsing372 Год назад +4

      @@DaBoaringDragon that is a possibility, but still having this going on for multiple hours is bad. I'd expect an ambulance or the airport firefighters to be faster than that.

    • @Catpanl
      @Catpanl Год назад +1

      @@clockworkvanhellsing372it’s not America. Life is so important down there.

  • @mapratt
    @mapratt Год назад +127

    The fact that this went on for hours is amazing. Yes, someone should have reached out to their dispatch and raised the concern

    • @cloudstreets1396
      @cloudstreets1396 Год назад +4

      Here's the thing. If operations stop to check in on the tower controller, that could mean massive delays and/or cancellations. Who knows if anyone else is even around. It seems like the weather was VFR, it's a smaller airport and not super busy. If you can get out of there safely and get on with an approach controller that is not impaired, then you are all set. I'm sure the other aircraft were listening to the conversations going on and had a sense of where everyone was. I would just verify routing in the air. It's a really tough situation, but the guys on the ground looking to leave are definitely thinking about being stuck in Ecuador.

    • @gingerman5123
      @gingerman5123 Год назад +40

      @@cloudstreets1396I’d take massive delays over dead people 🤷‍♂️

    • @oldRighty1
      @oldRighty1 Год назад +20

      Yeah wondering how a pilot who landed didn't get off the plane and march up the tower.

    • @douglasphillips1203
      @douglasphillips1203 Год назад +12

      I know of a case like this (not airline related) where there _were_ reports made, and they were told "we are getting someone on it", but that still took several hours to resolve, and that was in the US. So it's entirely possible in this case that someone had been notified, they just didn't have someone that could get there in time. Orrrr they said "yeah we'll get on it" and just did nothing. Either way the pilots are in a rock and a hard spot.

    • @DeltaEntropy
      @DeltaEntropy Год назад +4

      There’s not much US dispatch can for a controller in Ecuador.
      Just getting a translator would take longer than the aircraft has fuel for.

  • @roedere
    @roedere Год назад +1

    Congrats on the upgrade! I pulled that trigger too!

  • @annenourse1657
    @annenourse1657 3 месяца назад

    Thank you very much for your videos from an older lady who is afraid to fly. Your intelligent presentations, clear explanations & sense of humor make your videos fun to watch. I hope now that you are a captain you will still have time to make more Air Traffic Controllers vs. Pilots videos. I also love your voice over lady & her funny comments.

  • @desmond-hawkins
    @desmond-hawkins Год назад +45

    Wow. I landed in Quito a few years ago, and found the approach pretty scary with this late turn just over the mountains. It's already a challenging landing, I think I would have been even more worried thinking that the ATC controller was impaired…

    • @indahooddererste
      @indahooddererste Год назад

      Also hot and high engine characteristics deterioate massivley.

    • @vicpz1
      @vicpz1 Год назад

      How long ago did you land in Quito? They changed airports to the current one. The old one was very very scary with late turns on mountain etc.

    • @desmond-hawkins
      @desmond-hawkins Год назад +5

      ​@@vicpz1 Interesting! I didn't know, thanks for mentioning this. I see that it changed in 2013, I went in ~2009 (maybe "a few years ago" wasn't quite the right way to put it). It looks like the new one is on more of a plateau, whereas the previous one was in the middle of the city. I can confirm the "very very scary" comment, with a late (left?) turn around a mountain to line up and then quickly touch down and brake super hard. It was certainly the scariest landing I've experienced. *edit:* Wow, the list of accidents on the Wikipedia page for the old airport is nuts.

    • @annlidslot8212
      @annlidslot8212 Год назад +1

      @@desmond-hawkins Hi, I'm with you that. 2009 WAS a few years ago, but then I'm getting older by the day. Very rude of life, sneaking that on you there while you're busy with stuff.
      As the end user of aviation in this channel's comment section, I'd still rather stay on the ground than having all the (what 5 or so?) pilots around, trying to ATC themselves to a good solution. Except if I'm in the plane in the air. If the people up front don't have enough gas to divert to somewhere safer, I might agree with a decision of calling everybody up saying something like "Hey everybody! I'm in the air and I need to come down right now, or there are going to be some very surprised llamas shortly. Everybody stay where you are right now, 'cus I'm coming DOooooown!!..."
      After that I would be glad to shake the drivers hand (always at least two, right?) (drivers that is. Hands too usually but not as relevant.) on my way out, and then try to find ground transportation out of the place. Yours, Ann

    • @RPSchonherr
      @RPSchonherr Год назад

      Have you ever flown into Tegucigalpa, Honduras? I was a passenger on a plane flying into there and it was scary. Short runway, surrounded by mountains and the runway ended in a drop-off. The approach is to circle in a few laps to get down to the final and brake hard once you land. Lots of pucker on that one.

  • @simuler
    @simuler Год назад +5

    Just noticed the 4th stripe on your shoulder, big Congratulations Kelsey for your promotion to a Captain! And thank you for the interesting video!

  • @Kjtravels40
    @Kjtravels40 Год назад +6

    Good Morning Kelsey! Merry Christmas! I remember recently when HNL tower had a medical emergency and had to shut down ops for an hour. Hopefully the person was ok.

  • @Art_64
    @Art_64 11 месяцев назад +2

    Congratulations Captain! Well deserved! Fly safe! 🎉

  • @IdiotEarthworm
    @IdiotEarthworm 28 дней назад

    Fantastic episode. I am always amazed by Sam's honesty in sharing all his experiences. Very well done. 🙏

  • @ShaunPuzon
    @ShaunPuzon Год назад +4

    Congratulations, captain! Happy holidays, Kelsey, and thank you for all the awesome videos!

  • @johnolsen7073
    @johnolsen7073 Год назад +7

    Congrats Captain Kelsey, Enjoy the change of view. I was asked the drunk captain question a my interview and had it happen once. Please describe your first day in the left seat. Mine was exciting for the wrong reasons. Merry Christmas.

  • @seagullsbtn
    @seagullsbtn Год назад +4

    Congrats on the fourth stripe! Fantastic. Enjoy your next Quito flight.

  • @SusanCote-n7z
    @SusanCote-n7z Год назад +2

    Thank you for your explaining things so clearly to us non-pilots! I hate flying, have almost crashed in a huge wind storm on a small charter in the San Juan Islands where all the alarms went off and our pilot yelled "HANG ON". Charter service shut down after our landing on a tree lined grass runway. The more knowledge I have, which you have helped me with, the better I feel. Still hate flying though.

  • @nahwaalnoorahdheen185
    @nahwaalnoorahdheen185 Год назад +2

    Congratulations Captain Kelsey! iam currently studing to get my CPL license. you have been a great inspiration on my journey.

  • @LReBe7
    @LReBe7 Год назад +5

    Congratulations on the fourth bar! I am not at all connected to the aviation industry, but I noticed immediately because I have been watching a lot of your videos! I love your videos, they make me feel like I want to be a pilot when I grow up (for reference: I am a 33 year old telecoms engineer and I could never do the constant jet lagged sleeping schedule).

  • @jamestoepfer7601
    @jamestoepfer7601 Год назад +6

    I see your epaulets are sporting 4 bars now. Congratulations on your upgrade, Captain Kelsey! Well deserved!

  • @sallygough5409
    @sallygough5409 Год назад +8

    I am SO very proud of both you and those 4 bars Kelsey! Well done - you’ve done so well and worked hard. Congratulations and a very happy and blessed Christmas 😁🤗👍❣️❣️

  • @jameshughes7953
    @jameshughes7953 11 месяцев назад +1

    Congrats Kelsey , Four (4) bars. Impressed and well deserved I’m sure. You know, my last name is Hughes as well and I too used to fly regional out of IAD & DCA.

  • @adc19671
    @adc19671 Год назад +8

    Hi, Kelsey! Im not sure why I find you so entertaining, but I do. I'm scared to death of flying. It isn't natural. Man has no business in the sky, but I sure like watching your content. Keep up the good work and stay safe!

  • @Tiisiphone
    @Tiisiphone Год назад +5

    Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones Kelsey! ✈🎄🎇🎀🎁♥
    Thanks for keeping us entertained with your informative and often humorous videos!
    Greetings from a subscriber living next to BRU.

  • @squidleyskidley
    @squidleyskidley Год назад +96

    Four hours can literally be the difference between being able to get a clot-busting medication to reverse damage from a stroke or it being too late. Scary! I really hope this person is okay.

    • @MetsterAnn
      @MetsterAnn Год назад +13

      If it’s a hemmorhagic stroke there is no drug that will help. It’s not caused from a clot but a brain bleed.
      Seems most thought he was drunk since nobody called anybody, and that’s sad. If he was drunk, he should be fired and if he was in a medical emergency, he should be helped.

    • @squidleyskidley
      @squidleyskidley Год назад +10

      @@MetsterAnn yes, although the vast majority of strokes are ischemic, not hemorrhagic. So it’s more likely that time mattered.

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 Год назад +2

      The golden window! I hope this guy is ok

    • @annlidslot8212
      @annlidslot8212 Год назад

      @@MetsterAnnHear, hear! Yours, Ann

    • @jilpok1074
      @jilpok1074 Год назад +4

      I have a feeling this was not a stroke. Low blood sugar perhaps. Or perhaps he took some medication that he didn’t know how he would react to. It is hard to imagine that he is drunk, but that’s also a possibility.

  • @bubbaoriley7864
    @bubbaoriley7864 Год назад +25

    The FAA started alcohol testing controllers back in the 90's with zero tolerance for >.04BAC(immediate dismissal). Prior to that it was quite common for the ATC facility to smell like a brewery mostly due to controllers coming in still drunk from the night before, but a few were hard core alcoholics who drank on the job. Alcohol testing didn't eliminate the problem, but did cut back on it tremendously. Don't know what was going on here, but it wouldn't surprise me if the problem is still widespread in countries that don't have such rigid protocols for alcohol testing.

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 Год назад +2

      Yikes. Even keeping to the 10 hours "bottle to throttle" or whatever the equivalent for ATCs is, if you had a couple of good ones the evening before, or if you drink regularly, it can still affect your performance the next day. Well beyond those 10 hours.

    • @alanm5013
      @alanm5013 Год назад +3

      I thought about training to be ATC but decided my aged brain doesn't have the ability any more to juggle that many things at once and make the correct decisions 100% of the time, even sober. It's hard to imagine how anyone could do it impaired!

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 Год назад

      @@alanm5013 You can only start training if you are under 30.

  • @mish130
    @mish130 Год назад +19

    "As far as I'm aware, a plane has never won a battle against a mountain". Kelsey, you crack me up. LOL

  • @lynnstevenson11
    @lynnstevenson11 2 месяца назад +1

    I worked in jersey CI as a youngster and always served the last flight pilots in the hotel. These guys could put the whiskey away. … drinking until 2/3 am and away to airport for first flights. Mental. Wish I had confidence all those years ago to refuse alcohol . I was just a 18 yr old kid .
    Wee question. Is there random breathalyser’ tests for pilots ?
    Great work captain Kelsey 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @muskiet8687
    @muskiet8687 Год назад +23

    What kills me is that since this is clearly a dangerous situation, it still went on for hours.
    He could be having a medical emergency or sent a plane into the mountains.
    A plane could be having an emergency and having to rely on this guy to get them down and get fire trucks to the runway.
    Sure, he's up there alone, but you can't tell me any of these pilots that had to deal with him couldn't call a number and get help up there faster than a few frickin' hours.
    Looks like they just decided they didn't want to deal with it and get the heck out of there.

  • @DRV-mt5dd
    @DRV-mt5dd Год назад +11

    Thanks for the video, captain. Congrats.
    I must say I am disappointed that nobody openly addressed this obviously unacceptable situation. (But maybe they actually did and we don't know it from the radio conversations. At least I sure as heck hope they did).

  • @ryukyusun
    @ryukyusun Год назад +14

    Captain Kelsey, Congratulations.
    Well deserved!
    It's not hard to see that you are a non-bias, loving, hardworking, and reasonable man.
    God Bless you and your family!!
    Thank you for bringing us 74 Gear!!

  • @joycetsai5106
    @joycetsai5106 Год назад +2

    Congrats, Captain Kelsey! Thank you for all the informative and entertaining videos!
    I started following you 5 years ago when I was considering piloting school.

  • @cherveny
    @cherveny 11 месяцев назад

    I appreciate your videos. so many aviation posters just provide the voice channel audio, and no feedback or minimal feedback. your in depth explanations really help us laymen understand when we have only a cursory understanding

  • @julzb7165
    @julzb7165 Год назад +6

    Congratulations Captain Kelsey 🎉🥳👏

  • @English_Fun_for_Kids
    @English_Fun_for_Kids Год назад +5

    Hey congrats on becoming Captain Kelsey! Nice addition to the three you wore before. Well deserved🎉🎉🎉

  • @TheObsessedPatriot
    @TheObsessedPatriot Месяц назад +6

    I could obviously never talk to air traffic control. Without the captions, I can never understand a word anybody says. I don't get how anyone does.

    • @singingway
      @singingway 2 дня назад

      Agreed! ATC everywhere always sounds like they had zero training in enunciation.

    • @TheObsessedPatriot
      @TheObsessedPatriot 2 дня назад

      @singingway Yeah exactly what I was thinking. And since you can't have captions while flying a plane, I would be screwed constantly "can you repeat that? What runway? Did you just say chicken dinner was great or was that runway 8?"

  • @ajnathan9490
    @ajnathan9490 9 месяцев назад +1

    IMPAIRED is the word you're grasping for (doesn't unnecessarily accuse him of being drunk whilst still conveying that he is not (for wateva reason) functioning appropriately.
    Ps live your humorous banter 😂

  • @BluemanDrummer
    @BluemanDrummer 7 месяцев назад

    Love your channel ❤

  • @ElijahPerrin80
    @ElijahPerrin80 Год назад +34

    I was a dispatcher when I began getting migraines and it was a very confusing time for me and my cabs, going from being an acceptable dispatcher to garbage in waves and I was unaware and getting angry. Very odd for me. I hope he is ok.

    • @ElijahPerrin80
      @ElijahPerrin80 Год назад +2

      @@RiDankulous it is slowly getting better but very slowly

  • @Ifollowtheway7
    @Ifollowtheway7 Год назад +3

    Finally!! Wao! So proud of you Capt. Kelsey... We're all so proud of you. Always remember to "keep the blue side up" lol!

  • @romanrohlfs
    @romanrohlfs Год назад +4

    So entertaining to listen your own stories like the “Amsterdam taxi wherever you want” that you throw in. I can feel your positive energy when you’re talking about your job as a pilot. (You really like what you’re doing) 🎉. Thank you for your time that you put into this channel to let us see your world. Congrats to your ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Stripes Captain. Cheers from Seoul / Korea ☕️😎.
    Ps. (Have to think about your Korea Video when I landed 😄)

  • @marlagryboski4685
    @marlagryboski4685 Год назад +3

    Congratulations on your 4th bar Kelsey! I always enjoy your videos.

  • @scottsymonaitis4441
    @scottsymonaitis4441 9 месяцев назад

    Gtraz on the 4th bar. Thank you for sharing your experience and aviation facts. May your journeys be safe and inspiring.

  • @MotJ949
    @MotJ949 Год назад +97

    If this guy was having a medical event, they all did him dirty by not getting help to him.

    • @elduderino1635
      @elduderino1635 11 месяцев назад +4

      Underappreciated comment!

    • @codymoe4986
      @codymoe4986 10 месяцев назад +3

      "they all did him dirty by not getting help to him"
      They, as in, the pilots???

    • @MotJ949
      @MotJ949 10 месяцев назад +33

      @@codymoe4986 yes, someone should have called for help, the controller was obviously not OK. There’s another ATC video floating around the internet where the controller was having a stroke and the pilots called for someone else in the tower to check on them. Time saves brain.

    • @james-p
      @james-p 9 месяцев назад +6

      We don't know, but they probably did call to report the problem. It wouldn't be on the ATC tapes.

    • @onerider808
      @onerider808 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, ‘they’ were all sitting in the break room laughing. They knew he was having trouble and just did him dirty, lol. WTF?

  • @Montana_horseman
    @Montana_horseman Год назад +20

    I was watching and in the back of my mind thought.. has he always had 4 bars?? Comments confirmed that nuance for me. Congratulations Kelsey! I have around 3 pilots I can say I have massive respect for and would fly anywhere with, no matter how sketchy. You are one of those 3.

  • @aaronbeaulieu6086
    @aaronbeaulieu6086 Год назад +7

    All I want for Christmas is 8 gold bars. 4 on each shoulder. Congratulations, Captain Kelsey. Always Faithful, Always Forward
    Aaron Beaulieu

  • @lonewolf5238
    @lonewolf5238 9 месяцев назад

    I am new to your channel, but from what I've seen so far, I gotta say you are without doubt, the king of understatement!
    -------
    Subscribed, goes without saying

  • @sportster902
    @sportster902 Год назад +2

    Hey Kelsey, I am a new subscriber. I've been watching your videos since I got covid, and I must say I really enjoy all your videos. Thank you for keeping me entertained these last few days. Great content, I am a big fan. Be Safe out there.
    Steve from San Jose 😊

  • @traestuart384
    @traestuart384 Год назад +6

    Looks like you're really trying to keep the facade authentic looking by stepping up to a captain's costume lol. Awesome and congratulations!

  • @hsbvt
    @hsbvt Год назад +19

    I think your company needs to send you to recruiting events...Happy Holidays everyone! Enjoy a cup of cheer...(as long as you are on the ground!) Take care everyone!

  • @theophrastus3.056
    @theophrastus3.056 Год назад +6

    Congratulations on your promotion. An interesting scenario, but yes, the use of “we don’t feel safe” is appropriate for those taking off. The one coming in to land has a more difficult situation.

  • @Angelica6-i1t
    @Angelica6-i1t 6 месяцев назад

    I have been noticing those 4 bars too. Congratulations!

  • @karlbark
    @karlbark 11 месяцев назад +1

    Cap'n Kelsey !
    - I just noticed that there was something unusual about your uniform...
    ...and then I realized; 4 stripes ! 😁
    Congratulations sir !
    -Cheers from Karl Trausti
    in Iceland 🇮🇸