Elegoo ABS-Like 2.0 Longer Exposure Times???
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2023
- Quick video where I discuss my initial impressions of Elegoo's new ABS-Like 2.0 resin.
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Thanks so much for this. This is my first venture into 3d printing and you have saved me hours with this little snippet of information. 10 months later and yours is still the only video on RUclips about this resin!
Settings that worked for me were 5 second exposure and 55 seconds on the bottom layers on an anycubic photon mono 2
You're very welcome!
did you change lift speed etc? what are the layer tickness? Quite interested in your full settings
@sefabey3247 no changes to lift speed. A bit more messing with it got it down to 30 seconds exposure on the bottom layers though. I'm printing in a cold garage using a brewing heating band on the vat too
Thanks so much for this video man. I thought i was crazy about the exposure times. On the mars 4 Max the settings are 2.5 seconds but if you actually use that you're going to get failure after failure.
whatd you end up settling on im waiting for my resin and max printer to arrive.
can confirm, Ive had some details missing and ive been printing with exposure 4 seconds. Ive upped it to 4.5 now and it seems much better, now Im going to try 5 as you suggested and see if that makes even better results. Cheers for the post, its good to see when others have issues.
FINALLY. I have a Mars 4 Max and just got the 2.0 resin and have been having a hell of a time dialing in settings.
glad to find this because i was printing on my saturn s using 2.8 and consistently failing after many calibrations ive finally narrowed down my exposure time between 5.5 and 6 seconds. It took me way to long to calibrate because i couldnt find any information on the abs like 2.0 and was basing most my tests off the recommended 2.5 - 3 seconds of the regular abs like. Ikept trying to over expose it so i could find a range and everytime I upped my test it was still coming out underexposed. I almost gave up, wish the exposure times were easier to find so I didnt waste so much time. I printed at 2.5-3.2 in .1 intervals then upped it to .5 intervals from 3.5 to 6.
I'm struggling with the sunlu abs like brand, will try 5-6 seconds tomorrow and see if that cure the issue, thanks for the info 👍
I'm using abs like 2.0 with the Saturn 3 Ultra using 3 seconds exposure and 0.05 layer height, no problems with prints yet
Hiya! Extremely helpful video. Couldn’t find anyone else talking about this. Any update 10 months later?
No real updates, I still likeElegoo Resin but have switched to Sunlu ABS-Like resin I'm getting similar detail with the prints being even more flexible. The big advantage is that Sunlu ABS-Like is often on sale for around $35 US on Amazon for 2 liter bottles.
Here is a link to a video I did on the Sunlu Resin
ruclips.net/video/5W6jcwBJhC0/видео.html&lc=Ugx_5FkRcq0j8cqd-rV4AaABAg
When you strain it with your filters are you getting loads of like gritty gunk left in the mesh screen? I am with mine and its a new date on the bottle from April 23
Yes definitely having same issues, have you looked more into this? Very interested to what your experiencing I just cannot get these numbers down to get full success prints with this stuff it's starting to get one nerves lol
Interesting. Yesterday I set up my printer with this new resin without even thinking about changing settings, my print came out almost exactly the same as with 1.0 resin. It wasn’t a highly detailed print so perhaps it’ll become obvious if I was to print a mini or something
Will abs-like resin react to acetone?
Just ordered a bottle of the 2.0. Using a Saturn 2, currently printing at 2.5s with the original ABS like. Will update on the 2.0.
Let us know how it goes.
So how did it go??
@@iangraham6730 needs a MUCH longer cure time. Quality is solid but a much slower resin. Not sure if it's a huge jump or worth it tbh.
@@InVerum Okay, thanks man, I'm really struggling to print with this stuff, so I'll bump up the cure times tomorrow and see how it goes 👍
I am using 55 sec base and 7 sec for the rest and get great reliable prints every time. Mars 4 9K.
I'm using the 1.0 with 2.65s exposure at the moment and find it breaks/shatters easy. I even ordered Siraya Tech Tenacious to mix in as I wasn't happy with it. Its not bad for busts or larger models but I don't like it for minis. I'm gonna have to try this 2.0 as I just saw it on there site then jumped on RUclips for a review and here I am. Weird it has double the exposure times..
Thanks for the video.
Durability is subjective. I mostly print tabletop minis so they need to be somewhat durable. I've been happy with the results from 2.0. Definitely more brittle than plastic. It's a huge improvement from normal resins though. I just finished my first prints with sunlu's abs like. I'll post a video with my thought on the sunlu resin in the near future.
@@oldoneswithdice Looking forward to the Sunlu video
Wow, I'm not having that problem at all. My Gray ABS-like prints are crazy resilient. It's all I use now for minis. How long are you curing them for in post-process?
For most of my minis, I'm curing them in my wash & cure station for two 4 minute rounds (flipping them over after the first round to make sure I get all sides). I crank it down to 3 minutes if the parts are particularly fiddly and/or thin. This seems to hit that sweet spot of rigidity & flexibility. My parts come out slightly harder that plastic, but have enough bend in them to resist snapping if undo pressure is applied.
Only changing the exposure time is enough? The rest of the settings stay the same as with the old ABS like? Been trying to print with this new version and I’m not able to find perfect settings yet.
For me, just the layer exposure time had to change. Even the layer timing stayed the same. (30 seconds)
This is great info.
What calibration tools did you use to find the correct exposure?
I used the Cones of Calibration test to get me in the rough area. Then I used a mutil exposure test from UVtools to fine tune the exposure time.
Had the same issue and thought it's something with my Saturn 2 at first. Now I'm printing with 3.5 seconds but fine supports will still fail most of the time. There is no chance to print LordOfThePrint Models with this since you can't trust the resin with supports. I will try with something between 4-5 seconds and see if this resolves it for me. Thank you for your video!
How did the longer exposure times work?
@@oldoneswithdice It resolved the issue completely. I settled for 3.8s for general prints and 3.9-4s for LOP models. Only had one failed model since and the details are still great.
Where are you located? I’m wondering if the climate there makes a difference to where I’m at. I’m in Louisiana and I’m chasing settings constantly
Northern Wisconsin, though temp wise I use a heater in the enclosure to keep the temp at 80 F
Мне кажется, чем дольше времени требуется пластику на экспозицию во время печати, тем надёжнее должен получится итоговый отпечаток. Я имею ввиду надёжность со временем, так как многие фото полимеры имеют тенденцию становиться хрупкими через несколько лет. Заказал этот пластик, попробую посмотреть насколько он хорош в инженерных целях.
Hello, im also looking for elegoo abs like resin settings for dental printing but no one talks about this, but i used ai chat and asked the “bot” for help and theres none magic settings, all printers are diferent from all and each one needs custom settings;) so that’s clear, i will buy a few liters of resin and start tweeken’ Best Regards!
HELP PLEASE! Mars 2 pro. Standard gray works perfectly. Just got ABS 2.0 for the first time. Failure after failure! I used default settings. 60 bottom 8 layer. ABS recommended settings 35 bottom 2.5 and 3 layer. Still failure. I'm new to resen printing (except for standard resen)
How is it failing. Are the base layers sticking to the build plate? In general I would recommend trying to print with 5 to 6 second for normal layers. Then reducing that exposure time until you have the level of detail you're looking for
Please test version 3.0
Just curious, what's the ambient temperature of the room you're printing in?
That's an excellent question. I use a small heater mounted inside the printer cover. I keep the temperature at 80 degrees F
@@oldoneswithdice great thanks, I'm wondering if increasing the temperature will make it easier to work with. I have a 1 bottle on the way and I was considering buying more but I went for the sunlu after watching your other video
Recommended settings for my Saturn 2 are 2.5-3 seconds for 2.0 Have made multiple attempts with 3 seconds. I keep having failures. I want this resin to work as it is much more flexible. ABS 1.0 shatters like glass. Will try 5 seconds. The base layers seem to stick better oddly with 2.0. I am down to 30 seconds for 2.0 where I have to go up to 34 -36 seconds with 1.0 depending on model size. Hope I can dial it in.
I would recommend the cones of calibration test. Every printer is slightly different, and temperature can make a huge difference.
@@oldoneswithdice My results from 3 seconds to 5 seconds are all over the place, I cannot get consistency. Would attach a picture of the failure side but its comments.
I'm not a expert on 3d print. Just a lucky amateur. Hit me up on Instagram and I can try to help
Just curious what camera did you use? This has a great sharpness, dof and color.
This one was done with a Panasonic Lumix Gx7 with a kit 12-42mm lens. Not the best camera for video. This camera doesn't have anything audio input and the screen doesn't flip forward. It was what I had at the time.
@@oldoneswithdice Thanks for your feedback. It may not be suited for the type of work but generally looks great and crisp. Looking for a camera for casual artistic shots so this is a great info and I have a look.
I kept getting fails at 2.5 exposure so I just upped it to 5 and will test! lets hope for the best
Let us know how it goes.
@@oldoneswithdice had to replace my FEP screen but the prints work well. Theyre a bit shiny compaired to the old resin I used but they look nice. Think i have a slight issure with shrinkage at these exposure times but more testing will figure that out
I am doing cones now but I am already up to 7second exposure time I am also doing the cones of calibration its very weird I am not sure if this is normal or not.
Which printer are you using?
@@oldoneswithdice I am using a Saturn 8k
@Ben Ziff the easiest thing is to see the results you are getting in cones. Dm me on Instagram and I'll try to offer some better advice
I dont know what im doing wrong, but also right? Im using this at 1.6sec exp with great results. Phrozen mini 8ks. Used cones of calibration to get that dialed in
If you're getting good results with 1.6 seconds, that's great. Every printer will have different exposure times. Good to know phrozen might have stronger UV lamps.
@@oldoneswithdice I looked it up in other videos and other are going even lower and it is indeed down to the LCD. I'm printing in a cold basement around 19c.
With Elegoo white ABS-Like(not 2.0) resin was sticking on film when bottom exposure time 35s. I've decreased to 25 sec now i am fine with Saturn 3 Ultra.
And what common Exposure time did you set?
@@anaraids_pitfall_EXTREME 2.5 was fine with chitubox cuz autosupports was thick but after changing to lychee increased 2.7 sec and support tips thinnest should be 0.6 mm. Also try bottom exposure time 20 sec. I think it's better. If you have Fep sticking issue also calibrate z again. Go zero with leveling card and upper 0.4 mm. Then save.
I'm trying this 2.0 now it's awful absolutely awful it's like 3.2 exposure on mine but not constant success prints plus when straining the amount of like grit caught in the mesh is unbelievable yeah I'm not liking it but will keep trying with it! Now I've come to RUclips to look for answers I will try your 5 second time it seems alot but I'm getting nice detail at 3.2 it's more 3D like than a flater design print if I can explain it this way! On the test card Phrozen and Matrix at .02 exposure what I was with then old stuff now there's not much raised detail in the card till upped it to 3.2 then it's started to come alive! Still not happy though as some parts are still not holding to the supports on the same plate as the rest of the successful printed parts I was thinking of printing the cones of calibration again as got a complete fail at 3.2 with them still way under exposed! Definitely interesting but not a resin I use all the time I much prefer anycubics abs and tough UV it's flawless resin even though people say it's rubbish half haven't even tried it
Me too! I thought there was something wrong with my printer!
I just got my first bottle of this stuff delivered an hour ago. 5s per layer is disheartening but good to know. I just finishee a bottle of their 1.0 abs and inwas happy with its durability but found it broke easily. Nesrly every print i did was a fail and i never got it calibrated just right. Cones of calibration never worked and eventially i just settled for 2.5s exposure time per layer. Rarelynwas there a success and aince i was trying to do full plates, it only made it more difficult.
Even the ones that succeeded, I found them brittle. I guess longer print times is a small price to pay for better prints. Im going to start woth 5 seconds and figure it out from there. Hopefully this stuff gives me a much needed step in the right direction.
How did the prints turn out with longer exposure times
@@oldoneswithdice I've been great. Not a single failure and was able to print dozens of models in just a few days.
Though there were some issues with minor detail failing, nothing broke or god stuck to the plate and I'm really happy with everything!
It's on their site
Printing Setting: (For Mars)
Bottom Exposure:60s
Normal Exposure:8s
With these settings result is good but too long!
I see that unfortunately it doesn't specify which model of Mars. My personal settings on Elegoo Saturn are Bottom exposure 30s and 4.75s Normal Exposure.
@@oldoneswithdice Oh! Next time I will try your settings!
@@oldoneswithdice greetings! which one Saturn do you have?
I have no idea what is going on with this resin, and i really dont want to burn my screen out.
What is your exposure time per layer?
@oldoneswithdice so I started with the recommended and downscaled it using 3d printing pro's math. Took it to 1.9s at .025 height I believe.
Then started the climb, I'm all the way up to 3.8 at .025 and still getting failures all around.
Have you tried .050 height and 5 second exposure as test?
@oldoneswithdice I have not, I will be trying it next. I had a weird print last night that made me quit in frustration. My saturn 2 I noticed wasn't moving mid print (32%) and so I canceled the print and moved the build plate up, in the middle on the Cones of calibration there was a slime string about 8 inches long of resin.
Could I ask about your lift speeds? I read this resin needs certain loft speeds too.
I get lots of misprints with 2.0
Won't buy that again.
Sorry to hear that. What printer and settings are you using?