I used to be a fat teen and it was rough. People around me were rather mean . It lead me to question my diet and explore exercise. I am now in my late forties and I have considerable advantage and knowledge on both the dimensions- diet and exercise. I look and feel good. Life is meant to throw challenges at you . It is better to choose courage , discipline and strength instead of feeling victimised and excluded above all expect people to treat you with kid gloves. Demanding validation and approval is a weak choice . One should be willing to earn things .
Well said. I started to go bald at the age of 15, extremely so at the age of 16, so by the time I was 17 I just shaved it all off. I used to be really insecure about it, to the point it sabotaged me when it came to attracting women. As I got older, I stopped caring about it, got over it, and once I raised my self esteem, I started noticing women checking me out constantly. As it turned out, being bald is not unattractive, being insecure about it really is though. Believe in yourself, treat yourself with respect, and other people will believe in you and respect you too. Hard lesson to learn, but it is there to be learned regardless.
Reminds me of a talk that Simon Sinek did. He pointed out that people who call themselves leaders are very much the same as calling themselves handsome. In that example, one can muddle up what a leader is but this "hotness" argument is just plainly delusional...
I used to be a size 28. I'm a size 10 now; I'd like to thank all normal people in my life for fat shaming me. I'm now a happy, healthy mother with a much longer life expectancy. And it's also nice not to have a fat arse!
I do think it's a little ok to overvalue your own hotness, if gives you the courage to get out there. But no one has the right to demand other people to like them. I thought we all learned that at 3 years old.
No. Someone with narcissistic traits has very low self esteem and either a grandiose or vulnerable way of either controlling others or manipulation of others to get their emotional needs met at the cost of other people's emotional needs consistently and do not see the effects of their behavior on others. The term is grossly overused and memeified. Some of us actually grew up with a mother or father who is one. The other parent is a suppressed quiet enabling personality and the kids develop issues like substance abuse, perfectionism, eating disorders, video game addiction, anti social or other cluster B personality traits depending on the degree or intensity of the family system.
@championchap I don't know why you're so hard stuck on something you're wrong about. If you have never heard of grandiose narcissism then I suggest you educate yourself on topics before talking about them.
I've noticed you always get fat women telling everyone they're hot and 'slaying Queen yass', and they don't need to change who they are, but you never get fat men doing that. Fat men don't delude themselves, they never call themselves hot, and if they don't like how they look, they don't tell everyone else to validate then, they work to change. I hate the mentality of trying to force others to change how they are before looking at how you can change first.
It's because women don't want to be surrounded by other women that threaten them. Someone who could possibly take your moment in spotlights from you. That's why they want their friends to remains fat and to many people: undesirable.
The idea that one can proclaim their own hotness is the very definition of being narcissistic Basically, no one fancies them so they fancy themselves as a substitute We’re all doomed if we continue to give these people a platform.
I am seriously beginning to wonder if we are in the dawning of the era of narcissism. Jonathan Haidt says we have raised an entire generation of narcissists. I believe he is correct.
You don't have a right to be considered anything you haven't earned. If you've gone to medical school and earned the title, you have the right to be called a doctor. If you're 5 feet tall and 300lbs with blue hair, you have earned the right to be called exactly what you are. And while I'm at it, whether you're nasty, or trans, or in whatever other marginal life choice category... I DON'T HAVE TO FIND YOU ATTRACTIVE AND SLEEP WITH YOU. Forcing someone to have intercourse without consent is snuggle struggle. You chose your path in life, walk it for good or bad.
I would say more like this: you can identify with what the hell you want, hot as the burning sun, but to other people this may mean absolutely nothing.
While I agree with you, I don't think anyone, even feminist land whales, are "forcing" you to have sex with them. Ironically enough, those types are actually quite choosy and have undeservedly high standards.
Attraction is also reciprocal. You tend to find girls attractive who display a positive response to you. The subconscious runs a kind of algorithm calculating positive and negative feedback and your 'type' is the cumulative average of all the positive interactions. It isn't fixed, it changes as you move through the world and responses towards you change. A simple example. Given equally average looks, If a girl at the supermarket always smiles at you and another always sneers you will develop a physical attraction towards the first type. It's like water following the path of least resistance. Media and pornography have messed with peoples ability to navigate this algorithm correctly, which is why you get so many confused guys hitting on girls in ridiculously inappropriate ways. Their 'type' is based on unreal screen information and doesn't correctly align with reality.
It’s easier to just decide you’re hot than actually become hot. If you’re unintelligent then it’s easier to decide you’re smart than actually become smart. They’re just moving the goal posts closer to them because it’s easier
How is this concept not contradictory to the concept of consent? It’s so weird to me; The idea that if you don’t think someone is attractive then you’re a bad person. It doesn’t match up with the idea that people have the right to say no, and also have the right to love whomever they choose.
It is perfectly fine to have a positive self image, but make no mistake: no one else has to agree with or participate in your proclaimed self image, positive or negative. "My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" -- Dave Chappelle
The narcissism of younger people these days is stunning. They demand that other people treat them with a respect they haven't earned. They demand parents repent for their alleged sin of not making every moment a wonderful experience. They make other people responsible for their life. These children never grow up and if their parents refuse to treat them as privileged children they expect the government to make their life a perfect one. I want nothing to do with these people.
It's one thing to define yourself as hot in your mind, actually, you should, being confident and not berating yourself in front of a mirror is great. But it's a whole different thing to impose that idea onto others. I consider myself hot, I look in the mirror and think, damn! Now, if someone tells me, nah, I don't think you're that hot. You're too tall, too fat, etc, I can't impose onto that person my IDEA that no, no, you don't understand, I am actually super hot. Don't we call that being delusional?
It's strange and remarkable that classically attractive females rarely, if ever, have these profound revelations about this particular topic, even while eating spaghetti
Maybe we need to come up with yet another overly long acronym to categorize ourselves every time we see someone who does not me our attraction criteria. Yes, that was a sarcastic joke for those without functioning humor radars.
People say, "you don't have a right..." "you do have a right...". How do they know? Do people ever wonder how they acquired this knowledge? Where does this confidence come from? When you assert something like this, it would be nice to hear the rationale behind it. How did you arrive at this level of confidence? I do not have these kinds of experiences. I'm genuinely interested in how people know.
Remember when they used to say that incels don't have the right to have people have sex with them or be attracted to them...funny how that seems to change when its trans, gay or female.
Social and corporate media is basically social engineering. I'm just seeing this now. It's becoming a tool to tell people what to think, what to say, what to feel.
Degeneracy knows no limits in modern times. But you can't change reality no matter how hard you try. Either someone is attracted to you or they are not.
You don't have the right to be considered hot by others but you can feel whatever you want. Everything has the right to be wrong, and it is subjective after all.
Hotness isnt subjective lol. 99.5%+ of men have the same common understanding of what is 'hot' in a woman. The ideal female form hasnt changed from what it was in cave drawings
@@xraceboyex I would say today the general majority definitely has somewhat of a same ideal, but it is still somewhat subjective. Some men are ass men, some prefer blondes, some prefer more curve and some prefer more athletic figures. I just meant in that sense, not that a land whale can be a "hottie" because a few chubby Chasers exist
@@idk-imacat Concur. I honestly don't even believe chubby chasers find them physically appealing. Has something to do with accepting you're never going to be good with women and chasing what's realistically available to you. I commend them, but don't believe a single one of them would actually want a land whale if a 10/10 hot chick was willing and available haha. Barring mental disorder, there really isnt much subjectivity.
Exactly. Even though i know others are attracted to the blonde bimbo look I personally don't. I prefer the more natural no makeup look especially if they have some cute quirk thats different.
I signed up for some dating apps recently to see for myself how bad things are and omg...... after a few days I deleted them all. I feel for the guys that keep trying....
This all stems from women who have made poor choices, particularly over their calorie intake, not wanting to be held accountable for this by not getting the attention from the men they crave. I wonder if those claiming the bigotry would suggest that a gay man is a bigot for not finding women 'hot' or that a lesbian should sleep with men to avoid being a bigot?
There are a growing number of people making that exact argument regarding trans. If people prefer the same sex but will not date or sleep with a member of said community that “identifies” as the same sex then they are labeled a bigot. It’s gaining traction and really splitting the alphabet community.
I've often felt there is a certain confusing way we speak about "rights". We don't often even notice that it is a confusing term. Some people seem to be invoking some cosmic entitlement. Others, more reasonably perhaps, acknowledge that what we call "rights" are fluid concepts we construct. They are no more significant or effective than we allow them to be. You don't have a "right" until someone agrees you do; and then suddenly, you do. For me, it couldn't be more obvious how arbitrary this all is.
Thinking that your brand of looks or style, vibe or personality is "hot" is great, and such inner confidence can really help make a person many degrees more attractive than their simple appearance might do. That is terrific, I, myself, really find the "jolie laude" woman the most intriguing and attractive, with cookie cutter beauties mostly boring. And many of these typically beautiful clones just stop there, never worrying over their inner appeal. However, that is all me, and my own preferential decisions. If I don't take Hollywood and general consensus to much account, how much less someone's own insistence I find them "hot". Absurdity that these people think they can just turn ages of human sexual perceptions on it's ear by whining and bullying.
I totally agree with what was said. We've gone so far in the tolerance trend that having preferences isn't allowed anymore (particularly if you're a man BTW). But all the cheap rethorical manipulations of the left won't be enough to change biology. Hetero men are attracted to young healthy fertile cis women (I consider "cis" a synonym for "actual"), hetero women are attracted to strong competent protective men, there is no reason it should change. There is "selection" in sexual selection so it has to discriminate the least reproductively insteresting individuals. Nature is meant to be efficient, not fair. I think everyone is free to try or not try to correspond to the sexual standards, but aren't legitimate to blame the others for their poor results. Thanks Chris for your video, loov your accent by the way😉
"Wont be tolerated" only applies if you offer yourself for validation. I don't date fat chicks, I don't have to tell anyone that to practice it. I don't feel the need to tell anyone - I just don't date fat chicks
Thankfully, not everyone fits into your rigid little boxes. While it's absurd to try to dictate to people what they should find attractive, it's also absurd to proclaim that everyone is identical in what they find attractive.
@@billadonnicadonnicabilla4960 Youre conflating generalization vs. absolutism. I'm saying 99%+ of men PREFER chicks who arent overweight, and that's an objective fact. Just because some losers will settle for a land whale doesn't mean it's what they would PREFER. Every guy I've ever known whos dating a fat chick wishes they werent so fat. All you need to do is look at any piece of male entertainment for the last 10,000 years and you will find what men find attractive to be the same across all time and space - and fatties aint it
@@billadonnicadonnicabilla4960 Obviously, not everyone has similar tastes but there are still tendances that are justified by evolutionary phenomena. Obviously, some men like fat women, some women don't dislike poor men but if you're realistic, you'll quickly realise that those cases are exceptional and should be treated as such. You'll notice that the individuals who have exceptional success with the opposite sex have common traits : highly pproductive for men, and optimal physical attractiveness for women.
The point of language is to communicate. Making a definition mean something different to a different group of people detracts away from the point Making everyone able to be everything ends in everyone being nothing You can identify as hot, but that has nothing to do with me. I can then label you as hot or not, as can every individual on this planet
Yea I'm afraid that's not how that works. By definition, if you're trying to attract people, those people decide if you're attractive or not. That's how it goes. Separate discussion from whether or not YOU like what you see when you look in the mirror. Conflating the two is a recipe for disappointment.
Convincing everyone that being fat is attractive, instead of putting in the work to lose weight is THE most Based strategy ever created for a woman attempting to bag the best catch of a man. I applaud any woman with the ability to pull this off.
Women, in general, don't view words as having a meaning in any way other than whether or not it achieves their ends. Men say what they mean and let the chips fall where they may - that's just our nature. The nature of women is to avoid being held accountable for anything negative they do or say. Once you understand that, women aren't that complicated.
Do you have the right to be considered 'hot'. No, actually you don't. Why? Because that would entirely defeat the idea of hotness, which is literally a competition for the attention of high value mating partners. And it's not a competition where 'everybody wins'. And if you don't like the rules of that 'game', well seek wealth or cultivate humor or charm or some other valuable social currency. Regardless of what you were taught by misguided people when you were young there's an economic principle called 'no free lunch'. And demanding a free lunch not only doesn't work, it gets you the middle finger. And yes, boundaries suck, which why you are supposed to be taught all about them as a small child. So bottom line - gender is a social construct. Absolutely it is, it was designed so people 'interested' could signal their interest to the opposite sex - the more work you put into your presentation of gender the stronger the signal of interest you are sending out and the more likely you will receive a return. You want to imagine a gender no one has ever heard of, well good luck attracting a partner with that numbers game. You better get used to imagining a partner attracted to your imaginary gender. These signals of 'readiness' were the very reasons good parents limited the 'signals' young girls could put out into the world - like make-up, and high heels and push-up bras, and all the other trapping of the female gender used to attract the attention of the male, until they were actually emotionally and physically ready to deal with an attracted adult male - that's an acquired skill, which is also why young girls once upon a time had chaperones.
I think there is something to the idea that hotness or sexiness, can be a vibe (as in you can feel sexy when you dress a certain way, etc). That still needs to map onto the world or it's merely narcissism (existing as a manufactured version of yourself). It is definitely more than just looks or whatever fashion editors think is supposed to turn men on, though.
It's like those dudes who give themselves a tough nickname like "Destroyer" and claim others gave them the nickname. All it does is paint the red flag dayglow and puts the words "avoid me" on said flag in flashing bright lights.
Don't worry about doing things to become more attractive, just create your own reality It's not delusion, it's your truth.. I see that panning out really well for people Especially as they get older
You wouldn't need to decide and declare publicly that you're hot because you decided it's the case if you didn't first feel a void in your self worth that went unfulfilled by other people. That's the funny and ironic part. The sad part is how common this type of thinking is and how much encouragement people get from implementing and spreading it. Confidence is great, but this whole changing the definition of what a word or concept means to suit your needs and make you feel better is just hyperwoke, zoomer idiocy.
It's called confidence. You can proclaim yourself hot because either have or are cultivating your own confidence. However, when you're trying to force others to agree, it just shows that that confidence is just a mirage. No one who is ACTUALLY confident needs anyone else's confirmation of their own hotness.
Things people are doing: 1. Adding +phobic in attempts to shame people as to expand their available mating pool (I made a video about this). 2. Taking terms people use for others and redefining them as something you can call yourself *if this were something the user genuinely believed to apply to the self, there wouldn't be a need to write articles or make videos-they would be content just with the thought, but they're taking to online platforms to garner validation
Do what you want with your live as long as it's not harming others, but you aren't owed other people liking it. Same the other way around, like whatever you like, but nobody owes you doing what you like indstead of what they want.
No one should be rude or cruel about it and certainly could keep their opinions to themselves, Making people think you are cute or smart or skilled or interesting is not a thing. If you care so much do something to change what people are reacting to.
This is just another way of saying "I identify as hot". And considering that people seem to be identifying as whatever the fuck they want, this doesn't comes as a massive shock.
I was talking to a female friend about this topic yesterday. I told her that some people thought I had looked like the 90's bombshell Pamela Anderson when we were BOTH in our prime years. I showed her some (not my best) pics from back then and she told me, "Yes, you resembled her. I get it." Then she gave a few additional compliments. But she also told me that "it could be considered bragging." I thought about that for a second, and replied, "It's not 'bragging' if I'm just simply relaying the facts -- telling someone the exact comments/compliments that I had been told on a regular basis." She had NO answer for me then. It was clear why. It's NOT bragging if I'm just repeating the words that were told to me, by both men and women, and especially blunt people (demographics count) with NO agenda. She made me feel guilty just remembering some of the comments/validation I had gotten when I was younger. I can't tell some people close to me about my best years because I'm going through a mid-life "crisis" (lol). They'll feel threatened in some way -- even if I'm speaking with complete humility about it!!
@@radhiadeedou8286 Well, what if I told you that I was going over these memories of my prime years because the black pilled guys, moderators, and some of the women (the women were more covert) on a bodybuilding site were constantly trying to gaslight me -- and I mean viciously, sadistically and calculatingly trying to ruin my long-term memory of some of the details of my experiences? They knew I was dealing with a mid-life crisis and all those gaslighting techniques (done through cyberbullying) ruined some of those real-life memories that were once very vivid BEFORE they started the "verbal" beatdown. Because of them, I have to talk with someone to try to remember exactly how much of those comparisons to Pamela I had gotten (only when in my twenties). That's a HUGE part of my identity they tried to destroy. Is that STILL considered bragging?
@@radhiadeedou8286 There's nothing wrong with she did. Good grief. Are people that ridiculously insecure that they can't bear for someone else to tell something positive about themselves?
Know matter how hard people try.......... Biologically attractions cannot be changed........ Make an effort towards oneself..... That is the " secret ".
They have the right to self-identify and think they're hot even if they are farking obese, ugly, have two heads and five legs or whatever. (There's probably someone out there that does actually think that is hot.) However, I also have the right to think you're not hot and not date you.
Nature saw fit to bless me with a deadly accurate "barometer" of "hotness"... It's never let me down yet... ...except for that one time in Amsterdam that is...
Race and ethnicity is probably the most obvious way in which people discriminate (or exclude from their dating pool) in choosing partners nearly universally across cultures, yet most people don't think twice about it.
Yeah, no. There are legitimate rights: the right to choose your economic path, self defense, property ownership and defense, bodily autonomy, the right to raise your children according to your values, the right to religious practice and more. Baby, bathwater, etc.
You can believe whatever you like. If you believe you are hot, then feel free to think it. However, please do not force me to agree with you. That is going over the line.
"The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking." - Steve Sailer, blogger
Full episode with Andrew goes live soon. Press Subscribe you hotties.
Always a treat to listen to you and Andrew talking. Can't wait for the full episode!
dont patronize me william
Uhh, I wasn’t consulted about this!!!
@@andrewwabik5125 hahaha
Don't call us that! 😂
Correction - Demisexual is being attracted to the way someone thinks. Sapiosexual is being attracted to the persons intelligence.
I used to be a fat teen and it was rough. People around me were rather mean . It lead me to question my diet and explore exercise. I am now in my late forties and I have considerable advantage and knowledge on both the dimensions- diet and exercise. I look and feel good.
Life is meant to throw challenges at you . It is better to choose courage , discipline and strength instead of feeling victimised and excluded above all expect people to treat you with kid gloves. Demanding validation and approval is a weak choice . One should be willing to earn things .
Well said.
Exactly
That sounds like it was a very healthy journey. We should always try to be our best!
you found the lesson awesome ✊🏽✊🏽
Well said. I started to go bald at the age of 15, extremely so at the age of 16, so by the time I was 17 I just shaved it all off. I used to be really insecure about it, to the point it sabotaged me when it came to attracting women.
As I got older, I stopped caring about it, got over it, and once I raised my self esteem, I started noticing women checking me out constantly. As it turned out, being bald is not unattractive, being insecure about it really is though.
Believe in yourself, treat yourself with respect, and other people will believe in you and respect you too. Hard lesson to learn, but it is there to be learned regardless.
Is there a "right" to be considered anything - attractive, smart, whatever? No, obviously. It's a mind-bogglingly asinine proposition.
Reminds me of a talk that Simon Sinek did. He pointed out that people who call themselves leaders are very much the same as calling themselves handsome.
In that example, one can muddle up what a leader is but this "hotness" argument is just plainly delusional...
You can agree, or say nothing. Anything else is hate speech.
@@Vitlaus disturbingly true.
This "right" is also exclusively female.
I used to be a size 28. I'm a size 10 now; I'd like to thank all normal people in my life for fat shaming me.
I'm now a happy, healthy mother with a much longer life expectancy. And it's also nice not to have a fat arse!
Well done and well said.
More power to you ❤️
Oh no! A mentally healthy person! Chase it away!
Congratulations on your new arse. Bet your fella can't keep his hands off you.
I do think it's a little ok to overvalue your own hotness, if gives you the courage to get out there. But no one has the right to demand other people to like them. I thought we all learned that at 3 years old.
These woke ideologists behave Like 2-3 year olds. So makes Sense.
I honestly did not learn this at any age.
Isn't deciding you're hot, the definition of a narcissist?
Not quite. Deciding your decision was important enough for the world to know about? Definitely a flag towards it.
it also an indication that you have too much free time on your hands
No. Someone with narcissistic traits has very low self esteem and either a grandiose or vulnerable way of either controlling others or manipulation of others to get their emotional needs met at the cost of other people's emotional needs consistently and do not see the effects of their behavior on others. The term is grossly overused and memeified. Some of us actually grew up with a mother or father who is one. The other parent is a suppressed quiet enabling personality and the kids develop issues like substance abuse, perfectionism, eating disorders, video game addiction, anti social or other cluster B personality traits depending on the degree or intensity of the family system.
@@jrg305 some narcissits have extremely high self esteem. It works on both extremes.
@championchap I don't know why you're so hard stuck on something you're wrong about. If you have never heard of grandiose narcissism then I suggest you educate yourself on topics before talking about them.
I now understand how old people become irritated by the younger generation.
I've been thinking this recently, swiftly followed by the thought, am I old now?
I don't think I am, no one told me!
@@Madonnalitta1 lol I am oldish, 43. 😂 That happened quickly.
29 and I have also been having this thought lately. Guess im going to be hella grumpy when Im 60
I’m only 24 and I’m annoyed ahaha, shit’s getting crazy
@@Bjorn_R we'll all end up in some sort of camp for wrong think though lmao
Funny but not funny errgh
I've noticed you always get fat women telling everyone they're hot and 'slaying Queen yass', and they don't need to change who they are, but you never get fat men doing that. Fat men don't delude themselves, they never call themselves hot, and if they don't like how they look, they don't tell everyone else to validate then, they work to change.
I hate the mentality of trying to force others to change how they are before looking at how you can change first.
@@Winterascent yeah fat women can increase room temperature as they sweating more then average ppl
@@Winterascent do u go to gym
@@man58652 The thought of breathing in unhealthy people make me feel fat-phobic.
The fat women you speak of are just clutching at straws making excuses for lacking any self control and their lack of self esteem.
It's because women don't want to be surrounded by other women that threaten them. Someone who could possibly take your moment in spotlights from you. That's why they want their friends to remains fat and to many people: undesirable.
"Can I not self identify as hot?" I laughed out loud on the train at this 🤣
If anyone can, it's Chris. Stupid sexy Chris...
The idea that one can proclaim their own hotness is the very definition of being narcissistic
Basically, no one fancies them so they fancy themselves as a substitute
We’re all doomed if we continue to give these people a platform.
I am seriously beginning to wonder if we are in the dawning of the era of narcissism. Jonathan Haidt says we have raised an entire generation of narcissists. I believe he is correct.
You don't have a right to be considered anything you haven't earned. If you've gone to medical school and earned the title, you have the right to be called a doctor. If you're 5 feet tall and 300lbs with blue hair, you have earned the right to be called exactly what you are.
And while I'm at it, whether you're nasty, or trans, or in whatever other marginal life choice category... I DON'T HAVE TO FIND YOU ATTRACTIVE AND SLEEP WITH YOU. Forcing someone to have intercourse without consent is snuggle struggle. You chose your path in life, walk it for good or bad.
I would say more like this: you can identify with what the hell you want, hot as the burning sun, but to other people this may mean absolutely nothing.
Amen
While I agree. I'll also say you have stretched that one to it's maximal conclusion. I don't recall anyone talking about rape in this segment.
While I agree with you, I don't think anyone, even feminist land whales, are "forcing" you to have sex with them. Ironically enough, those types are actually quite choosy and have undeservedly high standards.
Katy Perry has had blue hair
You dont 'choose' to be 5ft
Many people find shorties attractive
Attraction is also reciprocal. You tend to find girls attractive who display a positive response to you. The subconscious runs a kind of algorithm calculating positive and negative feedback and your 'type' is the cumulative average of all the positive interactions. It isn't fixed, it changes as you move through the world and responses towards you change.
A simple example. Given equally average looks, If a girl at the supermarket always smiles at you and another always sneers you will develop a physical attraction towards the first type. It's like water following the path of least resistance.
Media and pornography have messed with peoples ability to navigate this algorithm correctly, which is why you get so many confused guys hitting on girls in ridiculously inappropriate ways. Their 'type' is based on unreal screen information and doesn't correctly align with reality.
Back in the 80s we use to call these, Ugly Girls Arguments 👧
You‘ve had the best times to be young😂
Gentlemen, it’s time to bring rise to the phrase.. ‘my eyes, my choice’.
😂🖒
Truer words 👏
Gonna use that at the gym.
It’s easier to just decide you’re hot than actually become hot. If you’re unintelligent then it’s easier to decide you’re smart than actually become smart. They’re just moving the goal posts closer to them because it’s easier
Attractiveness is subjective. No one can tell you what you should find attractive.
How is this concept not contradictory to the concept of consent? It’s so weird to me; The idea that if you don’t think someone is attractive then you’re a bad person. It doesn’t match up with the idea that people have the right to say no, and also have the right to love whomever they choose.
"TO WHOM!?" Gold.
Whenever you think you have the right of something, we should ask ourselves if we have the responsibility of it.
It is perfectly fine to have a positive self image, but make no mistake: no one else has to agree with or participate in your proclaimed self image, positive or negative. "My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" -- Dave Chappelle
Truth, goodness, beauty. They went after truth, then the good. Now beauty
Me, out of fucks to give:
“Well, guess I’m a bigot then.”
Bigotism is a western construct.
Me too. I'll take a double helping of bigotry please.
Honestly a good thing at this point lmao - let them label you a bigot for having common sense, we’ll all be bigots 😂
The narcissism of younger people these days is stunning. They demand that other people treat them with a respect they haven't earned. They demand parents repent for their alleged sin of not making every moment a wonderful experience. They make other people responsible for their life. These children never grow up and if their parents refuse to treat them as privileged children they expect the government to make their life a perfect one. I want nothing to do with these people.
Put the conversation out Chris! Can’t wait!
My new pronouns are now
"Hot and Handsome"
It's one thing to define yourself as hot in your mind, actually, you should, being confident and not berating yourself in front of a mirror is great. But it's a whole different thing to impose that idea onto others. I consider myself hot, I look in the mirror and think, damn! Now, if someone tells me, nah, I don't think you're that hot. You're too tall, too fat, etc, I can't impose onto that person my IDEA that no, no, you don't understand, I am actually super hot. Don't we call that being delusional?
It's strange and remarkable that classically attractive females rarely, if ever, have these profound revelations about this particular topic, even while eating spaghetti
Maybe we need to come up with yet another overly long acronym to categorize ourselves every time we see someone who does not me our attraction criteria. Yes, that was a sarcastic joke for those without functioning humor radars.
People say, "you don't have a right..." "you do have a right...". How do they know? Do people ever wonder how they acquired this knowledge? Where does this confidence come from? When you assert something like this, it would be nice to hear the rationale behind it. How did you arrive at this level of confidence? I do not have these kinds of experiences. I'm genuinely interested in how people know.
Remember when they used to say that incels don't have the right to have people have sex with them or be attracted to them...funny how that seems to change when its trans, gay or female.
I knew there was a recent guy example, but couldn't remember.
Yes, it's exactly the same but you can't say that because misogyny something something.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's that simple.
True, and some people have beauty that more eyes will behold as "beautiful."
True !
Social and corporate media is basically social engineering. I'm just seeing this now. It's becoming a tool to tell people what to think, what to say, what to feel.
Degeneracy knows no limits in modern times.
But you can't change reality no matter how hard you try. Either someone is attracted to you or they are not.
You don't have the right to be considered hot by others but you can feel whatever you want. Everything has the right to be wrong, and it is subjective after all.
Hotness isnt subjective lol. 99.5%+ of men have the same common understanding of what is 'hot' in a woman. The ideal female form hasnt changed from what it was in cave drawings
@@xraceboyex I would say today the general majority definitely has somewhat of a same ideal, but it is still somewhat subjective. Some men are ass men, some prefer blondes, some prefer more curve and some prefer more athletic figures. I just meant in that sense, not that a land whale can be a "hottie" because a few chubby Chasers exist
@@idk-imacat Concur. I honestly don't even believe chubby chasers find them physically appealing. Has something to do with accepting you're never going to be good with women and chasing what's realistically available to you. I commend them, but don't believe a single one of them would actually want a land whale if a 10/10 hot chick was willing and available haha. Barring mental disorder, there really isnt much subjectivity.
I don’t find all “hot” women attractive. I guess that won’t be changing much for me going forward 😂
Exactly.
Even though i know others are attracted to the blonde bimbo look I personally don't.
I prefer the more natural no makeup look especially if they have some cute quirk thats different.
"I don't check fashion news"
"That surprises me"
Sick comeback. Can be taken well, can br taken as a joke. I'm stealing it 😂
I signed up for some dating apps recently to see for myself how bad things are and omg...... after a few days I deleted them all.
I feel for the guys that keep trying....
Big Dick is no longer in the eye of the beholder.
It's a mood.
It's a vibe.
This all stems from women who have made poor choices, particularly over their calorie intake, not wanting to be held accountable for this by not getting the attention from the men they crave. I wonder if those claiming the bigotry would suggest that a gay man is a bigot for not finding women 'hot' or that a lesbian should sleep with men to avoid being a bigot?
There are a growing number of people making that exact argument regarding trans. If people prefer the same sex but will not date or sleep with a member of said community that “identifies” as the same sex then they are labeled a bigot. It’s gaining traction and really splitting the alphabet community.
Chris I just spit my drink out ! Lmao! Was that hot? Idk.. I Think there for I am?
I know im fckin hot. A hot mess.
I identify as tall, muscular and intellectual.
I've often felt there is a certain confusing way we speak about "rights". We don't often even notice that it is a confusing term. Some people seem to be invoking some cosmic entitlement. Others, more reasonably perhaps, acknowledge that what we call "rights" are fluid concepts we construct. They are no more significant or effective than we allow them to be. You don't have a "right" until someone agrees you do; and then suddenly, you do. For me, it couldn't be more obvious how arbitrary this all is.
Reminds me of Brave New World where everyone was expected to sleep with whoever wanted to sleep with them because to turn them down would be rude.
Yes!
Thinking that your brand of looks or style, vibe or personality is "hot" is great, and such inner confidence can really help make a person many degrees more attractive than their simple appearance might do.
That is terrific, I, myself, really find the "jolie laude" woman the most intriguing and attractive, with cookie cutter beauties mostly boring. And many of these typically beautiful clones just stop there, never worrying over their inner appeal.
However, that is all me, and my own preferential decisions. If I don't take Hollywood and general consensus to much account, how much less someone's own insistence I find them "hot".
Absurdity that these people think they can just turn ages of human sexual perceptions on it's ear by whining and bullying.
“I think you are handsome Chris and that’s all that matters to me”
- Peter Thiel
It’s an exact quote of course LOL.
That's it. From now on, anyone who doesn't consider me hot is a "hotness racist".
(Am I doing this right?)
Perfectly. 👍
I totally agree with what was said. We've gone so far in the tolerance trend that having preferences isn't allowed anymore (particularly if you're a man BTW). But all the cheap rethorical manipulations of the left won't be enough to change biology. Hetero men are attracted to young healthy fertile cis women (I consider "cis" a synonym for "actual"), hetero women are attracted to strong competent protective men, there is no reason it should change. There is "selection" in sexual selection so it has to discriminate the least reproductively insteresting individuals. Nature is meant to be efficient, not fair. I think everyone is free to try or not try to correspond to the sexual standards, but aren't legitimate to blame the others for their poor results.
Thanks Chris for your video, loov your accent by the way😉
"Wont be tolerated" only applies if you offer yourself for validation. I don't date fat chicks, I don't have to tell anyone that to practice it. I don't feel the need to tell anyone - I just don't date fat chicks
Thankfully, not everyone fits into your rigid little boxes. While it's absurd to try to dictate to people what they should find attractive, it's also absurd to proclaim that everyone is identical in what they find attractive.
@@billadonnicadonnicabilla4960 Youre conflating generalization vs. absolutism. I'm saying 99%+ of men PREFER chicks who arent overweight, and that's an objective fact. Just because some losers will settle for a land whale doesn't mean it's what they would PREFER. Every guy I've ever known whos dating a fat chick wishes they werent so fat. All you need to do is look at any piece of male entertainment for the last 10,000 years and you will find what men find attractive to be the same across all time and space - and fatties aint it
@@billadonnicadonnicabilla4960 Obviously, not everyone has similar tastes but there are still tendances that are justified by evolutionary phenomena. Obviously, some men like fat women, some women don't dislike poor men but if you're realistic, you'll quickly realise that those cases are exceptional and should be treated as such. You'll notice that the individuals who have exceptional success with the opposite sex have common traits : highly pproductive for men, and optimal physical attractiveness for women.
The point of language is to communicate. Making a definition mean something different to a different group of people detracts away from the point
Making everyone able to be everything ends in everyone being nothing
You can identify as hot, but that has nothing to do with me. I can then label you as hot or not, as can every individual on this planet
Yea I'm afraid that's not how that works. By definition, if you're trying to attract people, those people decide if you're attractive or not. That's how it goes. Separate discussion from whether or not YOU like what you see when you look in the mirror. Conflating the two is a recipe for disappointment.
‘Gate keepers of beauty “ lol
Convincing everyone that being fat is attractive, instead of putting in the work to lose weight is THE most Based strategy ever created for a woman attempting to bag the best catch of a man. I applaud any woman with the ability to pull this off.
Excellent interview
Women, in general, don't view words as having a meaning in any way other than whether or not it achieves their ends. Men say what they mean and let the chips fall where they may - that's just our nature. The nature of women is to avoid being held accountable for anything negative they do or say. Once you understand that, women aren't that complicated.
Those books are so well organised.
It's not about the title "hot", it's others' perception of you. Twisting words doesn't change how people value style, health, symmetry, athleticism.
Reminds me of Albert Huxley book: Refusing sexual advancement was bigotry
Do you have the right to be considered 'hot'. No, actually you don't. Why? Because that would entirely defeat the idea of hotness, which is literally a competition for the attention of high value mating partners. And it's not a competition where 'everybody wins'. And if you don't like the rules of that 'game', well seek wealth or cultivate humor or charm or some other valuable social currency. Regardless of what you were taught by misguided people when you were young there's an economic principle called 'no free lunch'. And demanding a free lunch not only doesn't work, it gets you the middle finger. And yes, boundaries suck, which why you are supposed to be taught all about them as a small child. So bottom line - gender is a social construct. Absolutely it is, it was designed so people 'interested' could signal their interest to the opposite sex - the more work you put into your presentation of gender the stronger the signal of interest you are sending out and the more likely you will receive a return. You want to imagine a gender no one has ever heard of, well good luck attracting a partner with that numbers game. You better get used to imagining a partner attracted to your imaginary gender. These signals of 'readiness' were the very reasons good parents limited the 'signals' young girls could put out into the world - like make-up, and high heels and push-up bras, and all the other trapping of the female gender used to attract the attention of the male, until they were actually emotionally and physically ready to deal with an attracted adult male - that's an acquired skill, which is also why young girls once upon a time had chaperones.
Beautiful is all those Wodehouse novels on Andrew's shelf. hahaha.
Smiling
I think there is something to the idea that hotness or sexiness, can be a vibe (as in you can feel sexy when you dress a certain way, etc). That still needs to map onto the world or it's merely narcissism (existing as a manufactured version of yourself). It is definitely more than just looks or whatever fashion editors think is supposed to turn men on, though.
The idea that your sexy should be coming from someone else, not yourself.
Some people are attracted to blue hair...oh wait! Is anybody?
It's like those dudes who give themselves a tough nickname like "Destroyer" and claim others gave them the nickname. All it does is paint the red flag dayglow and puts the words "avoid me" on said flag in flashing bright lights.
you can consider yourself hot in your own mind , but your still gonna sat at home watching some crap tv with your cat
can't wait for this to drop! 🤘
Humans are genetically wired to view similar physical traits as "hot". Sorry - identifying as hot doesn't actually mean you're "hot" to the masses.
The narcissist believes she is entitled to everyone seeing her in a certain way only.
Don't worry about doing things to become more attractive, just create your own reality
It's not delusion, it's your truth..
I see that panning out really well for people
Especially as they get older
@@justanothernick3984 You know OP is sarcastic right?
@@justanothernick3984 The sarcasm was deep? Let me edit the comment to make it less so
So Hottness is the new Solipsism.
Andrew and Chris. Very nice.
Oh now I know why Kim Kardashian made the spaghetti eating D & G T-shirt!!
Congrats on 500k 🎉🥳
this screams insecurity, and it's not other people's fault you're insecure with yourself.
2:50 slight whoosh
You wouldn't need to decide and declare publicly that you're hot because you decided it's the case if you didn't first feel a void in your self worth that went unfulfilled by other people. That's the funny and ironic part. The sad part is how common this type of thinking is and how much encouragement people get from implementing and spreading it. Confidence is great, but this whole changing the definition of what a word or concept means to suit your needs and make you feel better is just hyperwoke, zoomer idiocy.
It's called confidence. You can proclaim yourself hot because either have or are cultivating your own confidence. However, when you're trying to force others to agree, it just shows that that confidence is just a mirage. No one who is ACTUALLY confident needs anyone else's confirmation of their own hotness.
Years ago Dan Savage used to say that you can call yourself whatever you want. It doesn’t mean anyone else has to believe you
I am perfect in every way. Because I believe it.
A what point do I throw my hands up in the air and say fuck it I am out. Send me to Mars
Damn Chris! Nice recall ability Man!
Things people are doing:
1. Adding +phobic in attempts to shame people as to expand their available mating pool (I made a video about this).
2. Taking terms people use for others and redefining them as something you can call yourself
*if this were something the user genuinely believed to apply to the self, there wouldn't be a need to write articles or make videos-they would be
content just with the thought, but they're taking to online platforms to garner validation
Lol, this is hilarious 🤣 great vid @Chris Williamson
Do what you want with your live as long as it's not harming others, but you aren't owed other people liking it.
Same the other way around, like whatever you like, but nobody owes you doing what you like indstead of what they want.
I am of the mind that only Paris Hilton is allowed to tell me what’s hot.
No one should be rude or cruel about it and certainly could keep their opinions to themselves,
Making people think you are cute or smart or skilled or interesting is not a thing. If you care so much do something to change what people are reacting to.
This is just another way of saying "I identify as hot". And considering that people seem to be identifying as whatever the fuck they want, this doesn't comes as a massive shock.
No comment.
I was talking to a female friend about this topic yesterday. I told her that some people thought I had looked like the 90's bombshell Pamela Anderson when we were BOTH in our prime years. I showed her some (not my best) pics from back then and she told me, "Yes, you resembled her. I get it." Then she gave a few additional compliments. But she also told me that "it could be considered bragging." I thought about that for a second, and replied, "It's not 'bragging' if I'm just simply relaying the facts -- telling someone the exact comments/compliments that I had been told on a regular basis." She had NO answer for me then. It was clear why.
It's NOT bragging if I'm just repeating the words that were told to me, by both men and women, and especially blunt people (demographics count) with NO agenda. She made me feel guilty just remembering some of the comments/validation I had gotten when I was younger. I can't tell some people close to me about my best years because I'm going through a mid-life "crisis" (lol). They'll feel threatened in some way -- even if I'm speaking with complete humility about it!!
It is bragging honey, you don't need to lie or exaggerate to brag. If you have a Lamborghini, you're bragging if you mention it even if it's a fact
@@radhiadeedou8286 Well, what if I told you that I was going over these memories of my prime years because the black pilled guys, moderators, and some of the women (the women were more covert) on a bodybuilding site were constantly trying to gaslight me -- and I mean viciously, sadistically and calculatingly trying to ruin my long-term memory of some of the details of my experiences? They knew I was dealing with a mid-life crisis and all those gaslighting techniques (done through cyberbullying) ruined some of those real-life memories that were once very vivid BEFORE they started the "verbal" beatdown. Because of them, I have to talk with someone to try to remember exactly how much of those comparisons to Pamela I had gotten (only when in my twenties). That's a HUGE part of my identity they tried to destroy. Is that STILL considered bragging?
@@radhiadeedou8286 There's nothing wrong with she did. Good grief. Are people that ridiculously insecure that they can't bear for someone else to tell something positive about themselves?
Know matter how hard people try.......... Biologically attractions cannot be changed........ Make an effort towards oneself..... That is the " secret ".
Beauty as a thing are biological aspects signaling health and balance.
Insecurities are loud, Confidence is silent.
They have the right to self-identify and think they're hot even if they are farking obese, ugly, have two heads and five legs or whatever. (There's probably someone out there that does actually think that is hot.) However, I also have the right to think you're not hot and not date you.
Nature saw fit to bless me with a deadly accurate "barometer" of "hotness"...
It's never let me down yet...
...except for that one time in Amsterdam that is...
🤣
Race and ethnicity is probably the most obvious way in which people discriminate (or exclude from their dating pool) in choosing partners nearly universally across cultures, yet most people don't think twice about it.
Love your work mate.
Hot is in the eye of the beholder, surely true. But cold is a given!
Whenever I hear 'the right to' I default to thinking, oh this person Appeals to Authority and is a full-blown Statist, Government-as-daddy-fetishist.
Yeah, no. There are legitimate rights:
the right to choose your economic path,
self defense, property ownership and defense, bodily autonomy, the right to raise your children according to your values, the right to religious practice and more.
Baby, bathwater, etc.
They’re thinking of the word “confidence”. Or just narcissism.
You can believe whatever you like. If you believe you are hot, then feel free to think it. However, please do not force me to agree with you. That is going over the line.
"The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking." - Steve Sailer, blogger
As the old saying goes, " Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."-- unknown. I would never call myself hot. That's to arrogant in my opinion.