I know why cause it was something out of the box type and new to the generation not many people liked the flash just Superman now flash is a general pick and last and not least every running scene Grant Gustin actually ran for every one the rest of the season he basically used only his hands
I have something about noras reversing time she could do that with out consequences because thawne taught her his way and he said he knows what he is doing and that’s why there is no time wraiths
Couldn’t it have been how every other villain learns about his name? Literally every villain that learns his name learn it because they saw Barry Allen as a normal person, and connected the dots. Easy as that
The “finale” was ok, but I’ve realized how much the show has changed. It doesn’t feel like the flash anymore, he’s barely in his own story... season 1 is still the peak of the show which is sad after 6 seasons
SpadeZap I don’t think it should be classed as the “finale” just the last episode of this season due to the pandemic and we will see the real “finale” at the start of season 7.
The original timeline sounds so much more interesting than the timeline we have, in my opinion. Original timeline Barry just sounds much more competent and a cooler/more experienced Flash.
The Barry we see in the CW is literal dogshit. He's dumb as, OG Barry seems like he could actually do something, maybe even properly stopping Crisis with a well thought out plan as a solo
Haunted he isn’t dumb he is very smart just cuz there are smarter people then him doesn’t make him dumb he just thinks with his heart not his brain This barry is more experienced dumbass
@@madnessarcade7447 Dude, the OG Barry literally stopped Savitar, Eobard, and Zoom without the help of Team Flash. He's stopped every meta without the help of Cisco's tech, and he created Gideon. This makes now-Barry look like a dumb fuck who spends 40 minutes trying to stop a nuke, only realizing there was an earlier plot-point that fixes it. OG-Barry also became the director of CCPD, got a statue of himself, and probably would've stopped crisis.
*I'd really like to see flashbacks to the First "Original" Timeline when Barry gets struck by lightning from the Particle Accelerator that is created by the real Harrison Wells of Earth 1; and also witness the Origin Story of Eobard Thawne from centuries in the future* 🔥 *It would be nice to explore these aspects in the Finale Season of The Flash, presumably Season 10 !* ⚡⚡⚡
And also we can assume from now on it'll only be Cavanagh because Letscher hasn't been in the Arrowverse since Legends season 2. (Correct me if I'm wrong) And Cavanagh hasn't shown any interest in leaving anytime soon
Just remember the fact that in one of the episodes, they took a picture when Barry had his mask off so that later in the future, people could know who the Flash was and what he did.
No cuz reverse flash had already found him by time that picture was taken so that’s irrelevant. There was no team flash. Just flash. Bc he had to find out who the flash was in the original time line before he kills Barry’s mother. The show u watch on tv only happens once reverse flash kills Barry’s mother and gets stuck there. Without that he doesn’t kill wells to make team flash.
I remember Thawne went back in season 2 and that was when he learned which timeline he was from, he was then locked in the pipeline, in STAR Labs, so I assume he’d have figured it out during that time. (Edit) And you addressed that in the video.😂
Da1 King0fWakanda You literally just answered his entire video now if he really was watching the show he would’ve known that in this video would’ve not been made
@@m4ttebl4ck Yeah, there needs to a group of people that are collectively called the "cast of the show". But they don't need to dumb down Barry in order to do that. Barry should be *the genuis* guy of the show. There are so many redundant that does nothing and the same thing as some other person. There are like, 5 scientists on Team Flash that essentially are the same character, the "science guy/girl". And this show shouldn't even need that because the main character of the show should be the genius guy. I'm not saying he should the *only* character of the show, but if they want to so many characters then at least give them each something unique ability that doesn't take away the charm and focus from the main character.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf dont get me wrong i love the show but i feel a show where the main 'cast' r interacting with barry as a civilin instead of team flash would be better, have barry(scientist/superhero), tech guy (like cisco ), then more heavily focus on the police side of things with iris,joe other reporters/cops (and id personally luv to see red wally )
@@Dhruv-qw7jf Exactly. On Arrow, especially in the earlier seasons, Oliver was by far the smartest character. Sure Felicity was easily the most intelligent from an IQ standpoint, but Oliver was the genius when it came to how to wage his war as a vigilante, so much so that at times relying on his own plans rather than those of others was the only viable option. A great example in my opinion is when he tricks Slade into thinking he's one step ahead and luring him into a trap. It was Felicity's idea, but that's all it was for her. An idea. Oliver turned it into a plan and did not even tell her in order to ensure she had a genuine reaction on camera that would fool Slade as well. Another great example is in Season 3 when he completely abandons his team and actively fights against them as part of his plan to trick Ra's al Ghul into believing he switched sides. Oliver keeping his team in the dark was the only way to persuade Ra's, as it would provoke them into genuinely fighting against him. He would not be fooled by a half measure, which he easily would have discovered if Team Arrow was not genuinely trying to defeat Oliver.
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That Season 2 episode you mentioned was it, that gave Eobard all the info he needed because he saw The Flash was based out of Star Labs. All Eobard had to do when he got home was do some research and see that the Owner of Star Labs at the point in time he was in was Barry Allen, then do research into him and then after that he'd find all the bread crumbs and info he needed.
And what did he mean by "now I know what time period you're from!" Um, how did he not already know? The Flash is always on the news, he could've easily looked it up.
Polaris Castillo Well for much of his beginnings the flash wasn’t fully accepted as a thing.The mayor blocked any information of meta humans from the public,the only place to get info are theory’s on a blog.And even than how much of that is accurate.
Oh my goodness, not only a new Comics video - but about Eobard Thawne! A perfect combination. Did you get a new microphone? This audio seems more crisp.
How did Barry learn how to throw lightning? In Earth Prime's timeline, when he faced off with the Pied Piper, he threw lightning which was in season 1. This means that he did not learn it from Zoom, but instead from an alternate method. An easy conclusion is Eobard teaching him it, but why?
Another easy conclusion. It’s shown multiple times the original timeline of Barry was wayyyy better than this one and did stuff way faster so he probably taught himself
all earths merged into 1 earth post crisis, so it's possible that the storylines of both S1 and S2 happened simultaneously on Earth Prime. That WOULD mean it'd be harder for jay to fool Barry when he himself just got his powers, but it's believable that things happened differently enough so that he got the lightning throw early
bruh go onto Netflix and season two and there should be an episode with reverse flash going to random years to try to figure out about when Barry became flash, but Barry captures eobard and holds him in one of the jails. but this makes Cisco not exist because eobard wasn't able to go back and recruit Cisco as Wells. this makes Barry have to help reverse flash get back to his own timeline, but Barry reveals himself to reverse flash to set everything in motion. its been a while since I've seen the actual episode, so the exact details might be wrong. I know that you kind of go over this, but there was more right after that episode.
how to no CF if I remember correctly Barry doesn’t actually reveal himself to thawne, Harry mentions that it was thawnes origin and that was the moment where he learned more about the flash and Harrison Wells abs there was nothing they could do to change or stop that
Remember in season 2 ep 11 Harry said “Thawne knows about you. Right here. Right now. This is where he learns about you.”? ruclips.net/video/008DcLLAN0g/видео.html
@@bigclay8479 Barry never revealed himself though. He probably meant he knows about you as the flash. Remember, Eobard didn't know what time period Flash is from, so Harry is just saying, this is where he finds out about you(your time period).
He figured it out that one time he went back in time in season 2 I think. Harry said that’s where his timeline starts. Where he learns about Joe, Barry, and everyone else.
I’ve just been recently wondering so in the flash season 4 of flash time Cisco was not able to open a breach to a dead earth but how was Jesse able to go to earth 3 and during flash time since a breach would not have enough time to form. I hope u can see this comment and see if u can answer my question. Ty!
How does Thawne have a problem with the flash if he is from centuries in the future I mean flash disappeared after 4 years in 2024 WHY does Thawne have a problem with him and what is his problem, the show never explained these things it just showed us that reverse flash has a personal vendetta against the flash Can someone please explain it to me
I can tell you the mid-90s explanation. It's the one I like the most I don't know if its been retconned since but here it is. In the mid-90s Barry Allen was dead from Crisis back in 85. Wally West had been the Flash since then. During this time it is common knowledge that Professor Zoom, Barry's Greatest Enemy is a man named Eobard Thawne from the distant future and that he was killed by The Flash to prevent Zoom from taking another life. Fast forward centuries into the future. There a man named Eobard Thawne lives in a time without crime and without superheroes. It's a boring time in history and he idolizes the troubled period of the 20th century when superheroes were active. None more so than his personal hero The Flash. Growing up he idolizes the man collecting memorabilia and basically rebuilding the long forgotten Flash museum in his own home using long forgotten relics. At this time he is so in love with Barry that he wants to be him. Using his generation's version of plastic surgery he alters his face to match Barry's. After that he spends a fortune recreating the accident that gave Barry his powers. Now he can be just like his hero. One of his most precious relics is a damaged book written about the Flash by Iris West-Allen. A Book that told him who Barry was but not who Zoom was. Then one day he finds the Holy Grail of Flash Collectibles. He finds Barry's Cosmic Treadmill. (in the comics Barry can't time travel with the same accuracy and the treadmill helps ensure he goes exactly when and where he intends to) Thawne decides to grab the book hop on the treadmill and go back in time to actually meet his hero. The treadmill is damaged from age though and spits him out years after Barry's death. Not only that the journey leaves him confused and mentally unstable. Trying to find something familiar he stumbles into the flash museum and starts to remember himself and his purpose. As he's making his way through the museum seeing the relics in much better condition than they are in his time he stumbles into the rogues gallery. Excited he works his way through and finally there it is the Professor Zoom exhibit he will finally see the identity of his hero's greatest foe. He sees his own name. It breaks him. His mind snaps. For the next few months he becomes convinced that he IS Barry Allen The Flash returned from death. Everyone else thinks so too until his own natural ruthlessness takes hold. Wally figures him out and forces Thawne to realize who he is. Tricking Thawne into returning to his own time. Thawne addled by the return trip suppresses the memory of his own death but not the hatred of The Flash.
Short and more simple version: that eobard has been fighting Barry for so long that he just kinda figured it out after a while so he met our Barry and already knew.
My question is. How did Barry know how to use a lighting bolt when he was fighting pied piper in this timeline. I thought Zoom taught him that. And it was really early in his career too. I mean maybe Cisco but idk.
I think it might have been even simpler. Eobard explains that he became a speedster by researching the Flash and reverse engineering the process from the information he uncovered about the Flash's past. He had likely already believed that the Flash had been created by exposure to dark matter and lightning. So what was the largest known incident of dark matter leaking into the atmosphere in Central City? The launch of Harrison Wells' particle accelerator. Thawne would just need to travel to a time period shortly after that happened and look at social media, the news and police records if he could access them. There would be a list of people who had been hospitalised due to the accident. Eobard then just has to jump a few years in the future, to a time when the Flash is still active and check up on each and every one of them. All it would require is finding their home address and doing a stakeout. Given that Thawne is also a speedster, he would be able to spot Barry moving in and out of his home, whereas for others he moves too fast to see. The key problem with this whole process is that given how fast Future Barry appeared to defend his past self, he was already aware Thawne was trying to discover his identity and would try to find and stop him. So the closer Thawne got, the more he would have to fight the Flash, culminating in when he finally knew who Barry was and likely realised it in the middle of a fight.
If Eobard is like 100+ years after the TV Show then Barry is probably long dead and he’s actually a historical figure and everyone learns his identity and his history.
Hey man, Could you do a video explaining Barry's 2020 origin and what that would look like if the Reverse Flash (Eobard Thawne) hadn't changed history to kill Nora? Deeply appreciated, love your videos... Keep doing flash stuff
When Thawne said he knows what timeline flash is from it was 2016. So now Thawne thinks that flash is from 2016 but in the og timeline flash got his power in 2020. So it is not the og reverse flash. That means whenever Thawne mentioned the year 2020 now he would mention the year 2014, timeline is messed again and the timeline in which the show takes place is the og timeline now. Man all those things really messed up with my brain🤯
@@darshanasmoro9827 you seem pretty determined to tell everyone there is no og timeline, when there clearly is. In the original timeline thr particle accelerator goes off in 2020, and 4 years later the flash vanished in crisis. Thawne killing barry's mom changed time. Making the new accelerator explosion in 2014 and crisis to happen in 2020 Thawne tells harrison he needs the explosion to happen sooner, because he needs the flashes speedforce to return to his time, but in the end og thawne is defeated before the changes reach his time. Which is why the new thawne is season 2 finds out the flash time period is 2016, thats already the new thawne.
@@NTTofMisterynope, Thawne said it SUCCESSFULLY launched. That negates the possibility of an explosion. Thawne killing barrys mom didnt change time, it was ALWAYS meant to happen. He even says in 1x09 "it was your mothers destiny to die that night".
@@NTTofMistery Thawne from season 2 isnt a new Thawne. The writers confirmed that Thawne was Season 1 Thawne and Harry states it was his origin story, not some 2020 bullshit
@@darshanasmoro9827 it launched in 2020 which is when meta got thwir power in the original timeline. It didnt change thawnes time he was always gonna screw with time, but that doesnt mean its the original unaltered time. It is literally impossible for time travel to be included in an original timeline. Og barry just didnt have thawne messing shiz up
I think og barry didn’t disappear in 2024, also never forget the 2056 barry message, if that was from the regular(our) timeline then that means barry escapes eventually. If its from og timeline then that means he pretty much never disappears
I want a reverse flash suit with armor, more black like on the shoulders, something that matches Barry’s new suit just how the current one matched perfectly with the S4 suit
harry wells told Barry that " this is where he learns about you, you cant do anything about it " that explains how he came to knew bout wells and flash .
The Reverse-Flash confronted Superman in Earth-38. At some point in his personal timeline, Eobard learned how to travel through the multiverse, presumably via the Negative Speed Force.... Eobard finally discovered the Flash's identity: Barry Allen. I googled it and this is what GOOGLE says
I know the ultimate answer. Thawn was secretly at Barry’s bachelor party and he said when Barry was drunk and said “I’m the flash!” Thawn figured it out
I've always wondered; for how smart Eobard Thawne is... shouldn't he have realised that if he successfully killed The Flash as a child, it would have immediately cut off his own connection to the Negative Speed Force? If RF was successful, OG Flash would have dusted away at that same exact second (in the Allen house), completely erased from the timeline. Therefore erasing any potential connection to the SF for the NSF to feed off in that time period, rendering RF's time-travel and speed capabilities non-existent. _Even if_ RF 'planned ahead' for that, then why did he get stuck in the past anyway?
I think their attempt at fixing this issue was that bit about the negative Speedforce being able to isolate Thawne from changes to the timeline. If he had previously known about this effect then he would have assumed that it would yet again protect himself from any alteration and, in fact, give him what he wanted. He said he recreated the event that gave the Flash his powers and we know from Nora than the transition to the Negative Speedforce can be achieved via emotion. If the Flash were thus to be erased, Thawne himself would then become the first person to complete the Speedforce event and thus become the only first Flash his Earth had ever known. With his Timetravel abilities he could even sort of maintain the timeline by sticking around in Barry's timeperiod to perform the heroics the Flash would become known for, literally making Thawne the "real" Flash. As for his powers, they didn't vanish instantly and later episodes seem to imply that they actually returned prior to the explosion giving Barry his powers. I think one of the many flashback timetravel instances had red lightning crackle around his hand before the accelerator detonated. The issue isn't him having no powers, the issue is him not having enough speed reliably to pierce the time barrier. Given that the Speedforce has "talked" at several occasions by now, for all we know it actively sabotaged Eobard in order to force the creation of Speedster Barry. The proper backup plan, of course, would have been to stash a working timesphere or the likes in that time period xD
Don't you remember that one episode of season 2 called the return of reverse flash. In this episode Earth 2 wells said that that was how Thawn learned who and where he was.
I wonder if everyone in Central City being super smart could be because of the Particle Accelerator explosion, as we did see Dark Matter can increase the firing rate of synapses and base intellect to a degree
Ugh... yet another issue gets pointed out with the time travel of RF. His appearance in S2 is assumed to be the original timeline Thawne, but he is visiting Timeline 2b Barry in S2, which is about 5 years earlier than the original timeline Barry supposedly got powers... oh no... I've gone crosseyed.
we need like 1 season of just pure flash where thawed didn’t try kill him as a child and he never really time travelled until he knew thawed was trying to kill him
Eobard Thawne became Reverse Flash because when he went to the Flash Museum, he discovered he was meant to be RF. But how did the Thawne from the Museum become RF? So it's basically like a loop, and somehow he broke it when he found out who the Flash was.
His civilian life was a lot more progressed for two reasons. One his mom never died and so he grew up without having that weird dynamic with Iris, which in Flashpoint causes some ripple effect where Wally is a part of their life, not sure if that's just a flashpoint thing or not. And two, he became the Flash way later on in life, meaning not only was his career his focus, but also that he didn't lose almost a year of his young career to a coma
I hope the tv show gets back to Eobard soon. I would really like to see the "only time you'll spend with me" moment done in life action but I worry that the show won't do enough work with Eobards backstory to stick the landing.
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Maybe because he is always revealing his identity when he needs help
Well, maybe OG Timeline Barry Allen was better at keeping his identity a secret.
I know why cause it was something out of the box type and new to the generation not many people liked the flash just Superman now flash is a general pick and last and not least every running scene Grant Gustin actually ran for every one the rest of the season he basically used only his hands
I have something about noras reversing time she could do that with out consequences because thawne taught her his way and he said he knows what he is doing and that’s why there is no time wraiths
Hr Wells time wraiths only came from traveling in time. Her power wasn’t that.
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Barry doesn’t exactly do the best job at hiding his identity
You mean the suit, I love the suit but its pretty obvious whos behind that mask.
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Hey its better than a different hair do and glasses
@@anuragsenapaty True lol
PhAnToMhErO0 :? Nah super girls most obvious Barry's is some what hidden
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2020 can’t get any worst
2020: partial accelerator explodes giving criminals super powers and one dude speed
We just have to wait till the end of the year to see the DC universe come from our own
It never exploded in the og timeline
@@darshanasmoro9827 yeah it did, otherwise there wouldn't have been any meta humans, or flash, or Reverse flash
@@samcochran8203 Thawne said it was a SUCCESSFUL launch. That negates the possibility of an explosion
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Couldn’t it have been how every other villain learns about his name? Literally every villain that learns his name learn it because they saw Barry Allen as a normal person, and connected the dots. Easy as that
not every villain,Joseph Carver in the latest episode of the flash was murded in cold blood and died not kowing the flash at least that"s my theory.
Not really cause he’s always tracking back in time to fix mistakes that’s why it’s difficult to figure it out
@@samirsaleem5357 because he's a fucking dumbass
@Boi nah
The “finale” was ok, but I’ve realized how much the show has changed. It doesn’t feel like the flash anymore, he’s barely in his own story... season 1 is still the peak of the show which is sad after 6 seasons
Fr but s6 was good the Corona destroyed it
SpadeZap I don’t think it should be classed as the “finale” just the last episode of this season due to the pandemic and we will see the real “finale” at the start of season 7.
Its actually just a normal episode wasn't meant to be a finale
its really hard to keep it that way every show goes like that earlier seasons are always better...
@@likeaboss4314 yeah, if the writers lack creativity and imagination
The original timeline sounds so much more interesting than the timeline we have, in my opinion. Original timeline Barry just sounds much more competent and a cooler/more experienced Flash.
The Barry we see in the CW is literal dogshit. He's dumb as, OG Barry seems like he could actually do something, maybe even properly stopping Crisis with a well thought out plan as a solo
JustAGuy well no because original barry would have became flash this year so less experienced
Haunted he isn’t dumb he is very smart just cuz there are smarter people then him doesn’t make him dumb he just thinks with his heart not his brain
This barry is more experienced dumbass
@@madnessarcade7447 Dude, the OG Barry literally stopped Savitar, Eobard, and Zoom without the help of Team Flash. He's stopped every meta without the help of Cisco's tech, and he created Gideon. This makes now-Barry look like a dumb fuck who spends 40 minutes trying to stop a nuke, only realizing there was an earlier plot-point that fixes it. OG-Barry also became the director of CCPD, got a statue of himself, and probably would've stopped crisis.
It’s probability not more experienced,but more mature and well yeah experience to be better as the flash and faster.
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*I'd really like to see flashbacks to the First "Original" Timeline when Barry gets struck by lightning from the Particle Accelerator that is created by the real Harrison Wells of Earth 1; and also witness the Origin Story of Eobard Thawne from centuries in the future* 🔥
*It would be nice to explore these aspects in the Finale Season of The Flash, presumably Season 10 !* ⚡⚡⚡
The Next Level yes!! That could be a perfect ending to the series.
Harrison Wells and Tess Morgan.
Actually I think the OG Barry created the speed force. Just like how the Barry we know is trying to create it the same year the OG got his speed.
There is no Original Timelnie
@@darshanasmoro9827 How isn't there an original timeline?
Just watched the season finale. The way that Joe slapped Barry's back. You don't know true pain unless someone does that to you
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If Eobard ever makes his own joke,he’ll realize:”It was only a matter of Time.”
Reverse-Flash: And guess what, Flash. I know what time period you're from.
Anyone else want a season where barry is stuck in the future the whole time?
I think this has to happen otherwise thawne would be an idiot to not know what time period hes from
Crazy, I was just thinking of the same concept. Could the character room to grow more as an independent hero
@@awesomekevinb797 yes he relies to much on the team, and itd be cool to see him interact with future/past versions of characters
@@davidmackie5850 no I want a new team
i hope we get colbalt blue in season 7
Also the inconsistency of them showing Tom Cavanagh or Matt Letscher.
he did a whole video explaining the timeline
And also we can assume from now on it'll only be Cavanagh because Letscher hasn't been in the Arrowverse since Legends season 2. (Correct me if I'm wrong) And Cavanagh hasn't shown any interest in leaving anytime soon
Ethan Verkler and Matt can’t come back any way most likely sadly
Its sucks that Matt Letscher didnt had time for representation of Reverse Flash in past seasons. He was pretty good at this role.
@@bl5533 why not
Just remember the fact that in one of the episodes, they took a picture when Barry had his mask off so that later in the future, people could know who the Flash was and what he did.
Damn
No cuz reverse flash had already found him by time that picture was taken so that’s irrelevant. There was no team flash. Just flash. Bc he had to find out who the flash was in the original time line before he kills Barry’s mother. The show u watch on tv only happens once reverse flash kills Barry’s mother and gets stuck there. Without that he doesn’t kill wells to make team flash.
They should straight up just make an episode dedicated to what happened to OG Barry and what his life was like.
I remember Thawne went back in season 2 and that was when he learned which timeline he was from, he was then locked in the pipeline, in STAR Labs, so I assume he’d have figured it out during that time.
(Edit) And you addressed that in the video.😂
Da1 King0fWakanda You literally just answered his entire video now if he really was watching the show he would’ve known that in this video would’ve not been made
Clipbang30 He actually mentioned that in the video 😂I just said that before it was finished
Haven't finished this vid either, but I assume like.... Isn't....that ... It.....? Wells even SAYS 'this is his origin story' lol
Jaycutler709 Exactly, I rewatched season 2 about a week ago.
Summary of the video: The show would be a lot better without Team Flash.
Maybe, but a tv show is bult to function around a group or cast of people. Unfortunately, it has to happen this way.
@@m4ttebl4ck Yeah, there needs to a group of people that are collectively called the "cast of the show". But they don't need to dumb down Barry in order to do that. Barry should be *the genuis* guy of the show. There are so many redundant that does nothing and the same thing as some other person. There are like, 5 scientists on Team Flash that essentially are the same character, the "science guy/girl". And this show shouldn't even need that because the main character of the show should be the genius guy. I'm not saying he should the *only* character of the show, but if they want to so many characters then at least give them each something unique ability that doesn't take away the charm and focus from the main character.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf dont get me wrong i love the show but i feel a show where the main 'cast' r interacting with barry as a civilin instead of team flash would be better, have barry(scientist/superhero), tech guy (like cisco ), then more heavily focus on the police side of things with iris,joe other reporters/cops (and id personally luv to see red wally )
@@Ashton.camilleri that's basically what I said.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf Exactly. On Arrow, especially in the earlier seasons, Oliver was by far the smartest character. Sure Felicity was easily the most intelligent from an IQ standpoint, but Oliver was the genius when it came to how to wage his war as a vigilante, so much so that at times relying on his own plans rather than those of others was the only viable option. A great example in my opinion is when he tricks Slade into thinking he's one step ahead and luring him into a trap. It was Felicity's idea, but that's all it was for her. An idea. Oliver turned it into a plan and did not even tell her in order to ensure she had a genuine reaction on camera that would fool Slade as well. Another great example is in Season 3 when he completely abandons his team and actively fights against them as part of his plan to trick Ra's al Ghul into believing he switched sides. Oliver keeping his team in the dark was the only way to persuade Ra's, as it would provoke them into genuinely fighting against him. He would not be fooled by a half measure, which he easily would have discovered if Team Arrow was not genuinely trying to defeat Oliver.
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Maybe Gideon told thawne Barry’s identity since Barry’s built her she would know he is flash
No, if that's the case then he would've knew who The Flash was in Season 2 Episode 11.
@@darshanasmoro9827 true, unless he never thought about the fact that the flash creates her
@@Xjebin nah, he definitely asked Gideon who Flash was, and Gideon pretended to not know to preserve the timeline and Season 1 events.
There's also the fact that Thawne knew probably everyone who was killed/heavily affected by particle accelerator.
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That Season 2 episode you mentioned was it, that gave Eobard all the info he needed because he saw The Flash was based out of Star Labs. All Eobard had to do when he got home was do some research and see that the Owner of Star Labs at the point in time he was in was Barry Allen, then do research into him and then after that he'd find all the bread crumbs and info he needed.
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1/3 Of This Vid: How Eobard Actually figured Out Barry’s Identity
2/3 Of This Vid: CBVTW Going After Barry For Being Stupid.
Thawne was probably like Gideon find the flash
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I have been waiting for the finale
I’ve Been watching your channel since your Superman v flash speed video from 4 years ago
And what did he mean by "now I know what time period you're from!" Um, how did he not already know? The Flash is always on the news, he could've easily looked it up.
Polaris Castillo Well for much of his beginnings the flash wasn’t fully accepted as a thing.The mayor blocked any information of meta humans from the public,the only place to get info are theory’s on a blog.And even than how much of that is accurate.
@@hepty3179 yeah I'm not buying that
As always, wonderful video!
Anyone else hate the new comment section?
Me
It takes some getting used to.
I'm not sure what you're talking about, it's still the old comment section for me
If your account is an old acc the comment section are still the same
@@herizefell1431 I guess they'll eventually force us to make the switch
He doesnt upload much but when he does it's always good
i just really wish we got at least one episode in an exploration of the original timeline. it would be so cool to see it and that version of barry.
He is erased from existence.
Darshan Asmoro i’m aware, i’m talking about before his timeline got wiped. like what og barry’s life was like.
@@rushinz3761 the writers forgot abt it
Oh my goodness, not only a new Comics video - but about Eobard Thawne! A perfect combination. Did you get a new microphone? This audio seems more crisp.
*Newest Episode : 6x19*
Noone :
Comic book vs the world : “lets talk about Season 1 Eobard thawne”
Dark haha
Ive been wondering about that
*No one
Pied Piper roasting Cisco was hilarious lol.
Lost your meta mojo
supa hot fire
You know what Eddy Thawne Told him😂
Yay a new video is there a way you can upload anything slightly more often I love ur vids but it’s ok if ur cant
How did Barry learn how to throw lightning? In Earth Prime's timeline, when he faced off with the Pied Piper, he threw lightning which was in season 1. This means that he did not learn it from Zoom, but instead from an alternate method. An easy conclusion is Eobard teaching him it, but why?
thawne teaches him
Another easy conclusion. It’s shown multiple times the original timeline of Barry was wayyyy better than this one and did stuff way faster so he probably taught himself
all earths merged into 1 earth post crisis, so it's possible that the storylines of both S1 and S2 happened simultaneously on Earth Prime. That WOULD mean it'd be harder for jay to fool Barry when he himself just got his powers, but it's believable that things happened differently enough so that he got the lightning throw early
Great vids man
it would be fun if eobard thawne came back in some episode just like did in season 2, but instead he would learn barrys identity and face
Hey I like your vids its easy to understand and still not get bored and annoyed its just right keep it up
bruh go onto Netflix and season two and there should be an episode with reverse flash going to random years to try to figure out about when Barry became flash, but Barry captures eobard and holds him in one of the jails. but this makes Cisco not exist because eobard wasn't able to go back and recruit Cisco as Wells. this makes Barry have to help reverse flash get back to his own timeline, but Barry reveals himself to reverse flash to set everything in motion. its been a while since I've seen the actual episode, so the exact details might be wrong.
I know that you kind of go over this, but there was more right after that episode.
how to no CF if I remember correctly Barry doesn’t actually reveal himself to thawne, Harry mentions that it was thawnes origin and that was the moment where he learned more about the flash and Harrison Wells abs there was nothing they could do to change or stop that
@@firepilot21studios62 thanks for reminding me i know i said it had been a while, but man i was pretty wrong
I always enjoy watching your videos
I think found out who The Flash is when he stole Gideon from Barry
No, becasue in 2x11 he didnt know who flash was but he had gideon.
@@darshanasmoro9827 shoot forgot about that
Man, this makes me want an episode with Eobard and Flash backstory...
Remember in season 2 ep 11 Harry said “Thawne knows about you. Right here. Right now. This is where he learns about you.”? ruclips.net/video/008DcLLAN0g/видео.html
He just meant you as the Flash because Thawne didn't know what time period the flash is from.
Darshan Asmoro I don’t understand what you’re saying. Harry said “thawne knows about you” meaning he knows who Barry is.
@@bigclay8479 Barry never revealed himself though. He probably meant he knows about you as the flash. Remember, Eobard didn't know what time period Flash is from, so Harry is just saying, this is where he finds out about you(your time period).
Darshan Asmoro oh ok
He figured it out that one time he went back in time in season 2 I think. Harry said that’s where his timeline starts. Where he learns about Joe, Barry, and everyone else.
We don’t really know much about the old episodes after crisis
YESS YOUR BACK!!!
I’ve just been recently wondering so in the flash season 4 of flash time Cisco was not able to open a breach to a dead earth but how was Jesse able to go to earth 3 and during flash time since a breach would not have enough time to form. I hope u can see this comment and see if u can answer my question. Ty!
It's almost like there's a museum of the guy or something...
how did he recreate becoming a speedster, if he didn't know the flash was barry allen at that time?
gosh! I was waiting for u to post,amazing channel my guy!
How does Thawne have a problem with the flash if he is from centuries in the future I mean flash disappeared after 4 years in 2024
WHY does Thawne have a problem with him and what is his problem, the show never explained these things it just showed us that reverse flash has a personal vendetta against the flash
Can someone please explain it to me
I can tell you the mid-90s explanation. It's the one I like the most I don't know if its been retconned since but here it is.
In the mid-90s Barry Allen was dead from Crisis back in 85. Wally West had been the Flash since then. During this time it is common knowledge that Professor Zoom, Barry's Greatest Enemy is a man named Eobard Thawne from the distant future and that he was killed by The Flash to prevent Zoom from taking another life.
Fast forward centuries into the future. There a man named Eobard Thawne lives in a time without crime and without superheroes. It's a boring time in history and he idolizes the troubled period of the 20th century when superheroes were active. None more so than his personal hero The Flash. Growing up he idolizes the man collecting memorabilia and basically rebuilding the long forgotten Flash museum in his own home using long forgotten relics. At this time he is so in love with Barry that he wants to be him.
Using his generation's version of plastic surgery he alters his face to match Barry's. After that he spends a fortune recreating the accident that gave Barry his powers. Now he can be just like his hero. One of his most precious relics is a damaged book written about the Flash by Iris West-Allen. A Book that told him who Barry was but not who Zoom was.
Then one day he finds the Holy Grail of Flash Collectibles. He finds Barry's Cosmic Treadmill. (in the comics Barry can't time travel with the same accuracy and the treadmill helps ensure he goes exactly when and where he intends to)
Thawne decides to grab the book hop on the treadmill and go back in time to actually meet his hero.
The treadmill is damaged from age though and spits him out years after Barry's death. Not only that the journey leaves him confused and mentally unstable. Trying to find something familiar he stumbles into the flash museum and starts to remember himself and his purpose. As he's making his way through the museum seeing the relics in much better condition than they are in his time he stumbles into the rogues gallery. Excited he works his way through and finally there it is the Professor Zoom exhibit he will finally see the identity of his hero's greatest foe.
He sees his own name. It breaks him. His mind snaps. For the next few months he becomes convinced that he IS Barry Allen The Flash returned from death. Everyone else thinks so too until his own natural ruthlessness takes hold. Wally figures him out and forces Thawne to realize who he is. Tricking Thawne into returning to his own time.
Thawne addled by the return trip suppresses the memory of his own death but not the hatred of The Flash.
@@MrJackfaire so basically he's the biggest fanboy of all time
@@NavyBluePersonGuy yup
@@NavyBluePersonGuy he's so much of a fanboy he became an arch-enemy
Speaking of original Barry
I think he is from the timeline where the tidal wave is stopped without Barry time traveling
That’s not true
Is it just me or does the profile picture kind of look like a pug with a suit at first glance, it does for me
It really does
Most underrated RUclips Chanel
Idk how did he figure it out?
Short and more simple version: that eobard has been fighting Barry for so long that he just kinda figured it out after a while so he met our Barry and already knew.
My question is. How did Barry know how to use a lighting bolt when he was fighting pied piper in this timeline. I thought Zoom taught him that. And it was really early in his career too. I mean maybe Cisco but idk.
DBZ Fanatic You said Harry and I thought you meant Wells 😂You mean Barry right?
DBZ Fanatic I just thought about that. That’s another plot hole
Da1 King0fWakanda my autocorrect works in many ways
Wheel No.4 What is it?
maybe thawne taught barry how to do it idk
I think it might have been even simpler. Eobard explains that he became a speedster by researching the Flash and reverse engineering the process from the information he uncovered about the Flash's past. He had likely already believed that the Flash had been created by exposure to dark matter and lightning. So what was the largest known incident of dark matter leaking into the atmosphere in Central City? The launch of Harrison Wells' particle accelerator. Thawne would just need to travel to a time period shortly after that happened and look at social media, the news and police records if he could access them. There would be a list of people who had been hospitalised due to the accident. Eobard then just has to jump a few years in the future, to a time when the Flash is still active and check up on each and every one of them. All it would require is finding their home address and doing a stakeout. Given that Thawne is also a speedster, he would be able to spot Barry moving in and out of his home, whereas for others he moves too fast to see. The key problem with this whole process is that given how fast Future Barry appeared to defend his past self, he was already aware Thawne was trying to discover his identity and would try to find and stop him. So the closer Thawne got, the more he would have to fight the Flash, culminating in when he finally knew who Barry was and likely realised it in the middle of a fight.
Do a video of "where did the reverse flash go after Nora died" season 5
He died and became a spirit that haunted Nash.
Flash point happens if im not correct and. Every wells went inside one body
@@henzworth9984 not flashpoint. Crisis
Ohhh yeah my bad
I'd dont know about you but comics is a very underrated channel
Can you do a video on why Barry doesn’t work for the CSI no more?
Gandalf Harrison Wells He does,the show just doesn’t have the time to show it.
DARK CENTURIANS oh
Gandalf Harrison Wells the real question is why is Barry not already the head of the CSI department since he is the only one in it
"The year of 2020"
Imagine the show only started running this year....
If Eobard is like 100+ years after the TV Show then Barry is probably long dead and he’s actually a historical figure and everyone learns his identity and his history.
NoobMaster69 definitely, like arrow
If that was the case then Thawne would've known who the Flash is when he came back in time in season 2
Even the Flash Museum didn't have anyones identity
Speedsters also age slower due to their cellular regeneration
Hey man,
Could you do a video explaining Barry's 2020 origin and what that would look like if the Reverse Flash (Eobard Thawne) hadn't changed history to kill Nora? Deeply appreciated, love your videos... Keep doing flash stuff
When Thawne said he knows what timeline flash is from it was 2016. So now Thawne thinks that flash is from 2016 but in the og timeline flash got his power in 2020. So it is not the og reverse flash. That means whenever Thawne mentioned the year 2020 now he would mention the year 2014, timeline is messed again and the timeline in which the show takes place is the og timeline now.
Man all those things really messed up with my brain🤯
There is no OG Timeline. Harry in the season 2 episode said that this was Thawnes Origin Story, meaning it always happened in 2016 not in 2020.
@@darshanasmoro9827 you seem pretty determined to tell everyone there is no og timeline, when there clearly is.
In the original timeline thr particle accelerator goes off in 2020, and 4 years later the flash vanished in crisis.
Thawne killing barry's mom changed time. Making the new accelerator explosion in 2014 and crisis to happen in 2020
Thawne tells harrison he needs the explosion to happen sooner, because he needs the flashes speedforce to return to his time, but in the end og thawne is defeated before the changes reach his time. Which is why the new thawne is season 2 finds out the flash time period is 2016, thats already the new thawne.
@@NTTofMisterynope, Thawne said it SUCCESSFULLY launched. That negates the possibility of an explosion.
Thawne killing barrys mom didnt change time, it was ALWAYS meant to happen. He even says in 1x09 "it was your mothers destiny to die that night".
@@NTTofMistery Thawne from season 2 isnt a new Thawne. The writers confirmed that Thawne was Season 1 Thawne and Harry states it was his origin story, not some 2020 bullshit
@@darshanasmoro9827 it launched in 2020 which is when meta got thwir power in the original timeline.
It didnt change thawnes time he was always gonna screw with time, but that doesnt mean its the original unaltered time.
It is literally impossible for time travel to be included in an original timeline. Og barry just didnt have thawne messing shiz up
I wonder how OG Barry got so good considering the Particle Accelerator didn’t go off until 2020 and our Barry has had more time to hone his skills
I think og barry didn’t disappear in 2024, also never forget the 2056 barry message, if that was from the regular(our) timeline then that means barry escapes eventually. If its from og timeline then that means he pretty much never disappears
I want a reverse flash suit with armor, more black like on the shoulders, something that matches Barry’s new suit just how the current one matched perfectly with the S4 suit
He travels through different time lines. Of course he knows it.
You always ask the most important questions
harry wells told Barry that " this is where he learns about you, you cant do anything about it " that explains how he came to knew bout wells and flash .
The Reverse-Flash confronted Superman in Earth-38. At some point in his personal timeline, Eobard learned how to travel through the multiverse, presumably via the Negative Speed Force.... Eobard finally discovered the Flash's identity: Barry Allen. I googled it and this is what GOOGLE says
I know the ultimate answer.
Thawn was secretly at Barry’s bachelor party and he said when Barry was drunk and said “I’m the flash!” Thawn figured it out
Goated Leaks yup
Hey, y'know the flash costume, in the flash museum gift shop, some of the toys had yellow boots and gloves.
I've always wondered; for how smart Eobard Thawne is... shouldn't he have realised that if he successfully killed The Flash as a child, it would have immediately cut off his own connection to the Negative Speed Force? If RF was successful, OG Flash would have dusted away at that same exact second (in the Allen house), completely erased from the timeline. Therefore erasing any potential connection to the SF for the NSF to feed off in that time period, rendering RF's time-travel and speed capabilities non-existent. _Even if_ RF 'planned ahead' for that, then why did he get stuck in the past anyway?
I think their attempt at fixing this issue was that bit about the negative Speedforce being able to isolate Thawne from changes to the timeline. If he had previously known about this effect then he would have assumed that it would yet again protect himself from any alteration and, in fact, give him what he wanted. He said he recreated the event that gave the Flash his powers and we know from Nora than the transition to the Negative Speedforce can be achieved via emotion. If the Flash were thus to be erased, Thawne himself would then become the first person to complete the Speedforce event and thus become the only first Flash his Earth had ever known. With his Timetravel abilities he could even sort of maintain the timeline by sticking around in Barry's timeperiod to perform the heroics the Flash would become known for, literally making Thawne the "real" Flash.
As for his powers, they didn't vanish instantly and later episodes seem to imply that they actually returned prior to the explosion giving Barry his powers. I think one of the many flashback timetravel instances had red lightning crackle around his hand before the accelerator detonated. The issue isn't him having no powers, the issue is him not having enough speed reliably to pierce the time barrier. Given that the Speedforce has "talked" at several occasions by now, for all we know it actively sabotaged Eobard in order to force the creation of Speedster Barry. The proper backup plan, of course, would have been to stash a working timesphere or the likes in that time period xD
Hey, can you do a video about Eobard`s mental breakdown from the comics?
Dude! You seriously need to get hired for the writing team!!!
Don't you remember that one episode of season 2 called the return of reverse flash. In this episode Earth 2 wells said that that was how Thawn learned who and where he was.
Earth 2 Wells. As in not Thawne. Earth 2 Wells has no way of knowing what Earth 1 was like before the timeline was changed by Nora's death.
I wonder if everyone in Central City being super smart could be because of the Particle Accelerator explosion, as we did see Dark Matter can increase the firing rate of synapses and base intellect to a degree
Just now getting recommended this but good video
Comic Books vs the world, calculate the speed of the REAL Godspeed when he shows
Ugh... yet another issue gets pointed out with the time travel of RF. His appearance in S2 is assumed to be the original timeline Thawne, but he is visiting Timeline 2b Barry in S2, which is about 5 years earlier than the original timeline Barry supposedly got powers... oh no... I've gone crosseyed.
Fun fact: My headphones cut out during just the right parts of Thawn's speech so it sounded like he was cursing at Barry.
season 1 gives vibes of star wars luke vs vader when him and reverse flash encounter eachother
In season 7 I want to see some flashbacks of the original timeline. 2020 particle accelerator, 2020-2024 Flash, etc.
we need like 1 season of just pure flash where thawed didn’t try kill him as a child and he never really time travelled until he knew thawed was trying to kill him
I thought he learnt from season 2, even Harry says: "this is where re learns about everything, you, me, STAR LABS"
Eobard Thawne became Reverse Flash because when he went to the Flash Museum, he discovered he was meant to be RF. But how did the Thawne from the Museum become RF? So it's basically like a loop, and somehow he broke it when he found out who the Flash was.
His civilian life was a lot more progressed for two reasons. One his mom never died and so he grew up without having that weird dynamic with Iris, which in Flashpoint causes some ripple effect where Wally is a part of their life, not sure if that's just a flashpoint thing or not. And two, he became the Flash way later on in life, meaning not only was his career his focus, but also that he didn't lose almost a year of his young career to a coma
I just love when lex Luther takes over the flashes body and takes off his mask and is like “I have no idea who this is”
That was Wally, though
Still a funny scene though lol
@@pessimisticslytherin8712 I said flash so it still counts, but I totally see what point you’re coming from
I hope the tv show gets back to Eobard soon. I would really like to see the "only time you'll spend with me" moment done in life action but I worry that the show won't do enough work with Eobards backstory to stick the landing.
Can you do a science behind the article speedforce??
It'd be interesting if thawne somehow discovered his own journal which was written in the speed force language and figured out who The Flash was
But Comic, it couldn't have been that hard for Thawn to figure out who the Flash is considering how easy it was for Hartly to figure out..?
He probably got the full name of Bartholomew Henry Allen