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No, I didn't find out. At the end of the day, they are just little garden sheds, which only technically need consent due to their proximity to the boundary - not that anyone ever bothers with that.

This was by far the worst I've seen, although, to be fair, I really haven't seen that many. It's normal to have a few minor issues, but to have so many trusses wrong, repeatedly, is very unusual. There's about a dozen detailers at that factory, and this one told me he does 6 houses a week, so they are under a bit of pressure. It is all done off plans, and sometimes plans aren't the best and are open to a bit of interpretation. I don't see how any of the issues on this one were the result anyone's mistake but his own.

Thanks mate. I really didn't think this one would turn out as well as it did.

Thanks man. It definitely helped seeing what was made in the factory and how it related to real construction. Prenail do get a lot of flak, even from me, but building frames is a special skill that most NZ carpenters don't get to practice nearly enough.

Thank you. Yup, I agree on the H3.2 and I would prefer a double top plate, but unfortunately, none of this was my decision. In my hast to get this video ready, I neglected to mention the joins and corners will be battered and the whole thing will be painted, so they will come out looking pretty good. The boss is also welding up a door frame to fit. I might get back there for an update photo at some stage.

It'll just be corrugated iron like the units, I imagine. I won't be there to do any of that though. I'm off to start a new job next week.

Should be TPO

Why? Iron is cheap, effective and will match the house.

Thanks

I may have had to bribe him 😂 He was pretty good, although I’m sure he was playing games a few times

@@nakedapprentice haha. Kids are a bit like that. I try to get mine involved when I can. Your second attempt looks great. It almost seems like they had a design that most would struggle to finish in the allowed time and a few things that would take some skill not to break, like those corners. Plus it’s a challenge to not have tools you’re normally used to working with. It’s all about testing you

@Mueller_projects Yeah, absolutely. The goal was to test as many skills as possible in 2 hours. The funny thing is I asked my contact at Master Builders for a digital copy of the plans for this video and was sent a plan that was slightly different. It had all the measurements on it, but some of the check outs were different and it probably would have been a bit stronger. I suspect that may have been a draft which they later amended.

Good to hear from you! I was worried you’d taken a turn for the worst. I seem to recall you were ill. I think I know about that staircase. Perhaps he used something similar to Japanese carpenters - they work absolutely fascinates me. I would love to make some of my own saw horses. Unfortunately, I don’t have a van or truck yet, so I need collapsible ones. They’ve been great for everything until now. There’s just enough movement in them to make the finer work a bit more frustrating.

@@nakedapprentice Thanks for remembering . I am doing relatively well . Yeah . I got stage 4 melanoma and it's made me weak and clipped my carpenter wings . Considering writing a carpentry book , But one that addresses the real world of carpentry and some of the things I have discovered that I'd like to share . Yeah .. Chinese/ Japanese carpentry is absolutely fascinating , How they bracket out and build a roof with no fasteners at all . How the timbers were transported and milled thousands of years ago from far in the mountains . How thier structures have stood through time . Seen a documentary where they tested a build on shake table to simulate an earthquake of 10 on the richter scale and it stayed together because how it was allowed to sway . Seemingly if built too tight and rigid is what makes some structures fail . I have always buillt in a way that I jokingly say " It's going to take explosives to make my door go out of whack " Just watching your video here , I know the nuances of what you are doing and the procedures . Well done . Down to how to plunge a jigsaw , how to removed material , how to use a chisel . I have often said " Give two guys two pieces of wood and you'l; get two different results " and yet a complete build is exponentially more complex which few can appreciate . Some will fumble with it , others will not consider the grain ,knots and nature of the two pieces and the challenge is merely getting them to be flush and attached . Not like thier building a Swiss watch . Other elements is assessing before the build and using spatial reasoning and seeing whatever your building in the minds eye before clearly . Like when working in unison with someone else that calls out dimemsions and you have to be able to project your mind and see what they are seeing without actually seeing it yourself . Carpentry in my opinion is limitless , So many styles and crossovers , Some of the most fascinating carpentry I have ever done was triaxial ellipitcal vaults , erraticism , Mountain laurel deck railing , Live edge siding . I love the nature of wood and how to make it not only be functional but beautiful . Doing good . Love your demeanor and tenacity . Peace

That’s tough man. We know all about melanoma here in New Zealand. I think we have the highest rates in the world, largely due to the hole in the ozone layer that developed down here due to CFCs use back in the 80s. It’s mostly come right now I think, but the damage is done. I’m curious what you thought are on the jigsaw. I couldn’t get it to cut plumb though the material. I wonder if I was using to fine a blade, cutting too fast or simple that it was too thick. The timber was 32mm or 1 1/4”. It’s only a recent addition to my tool collection, so I’m far from an expert on it.

The truth is I was probably too hard on myself immediately after the competition. I don’t think it was possible to complete correctly during the 2 hours without prior planning. From what I’ve heard, those who did ‘complete’ them made different mistakes, such at checking out the legs 90mm around the support rail, meaning the legs would provide very little lateral support. I built a shed myself during the second lockdown. Likewise, I prebuilt it on my driveway and rebuilt it around the back.

Funny you should ask that - I did do it many years ago myself. The way I did it was figure out where I wanted my joists to sit and putting packers underneath them, then screwing them into the concrete. Even though it was exterior treated timber, I still put damp proof course under the packers. If you’re raising it quite a bit and need bearers as well, the same method would apply to the bearers instead of joists, but pack them to a few mm lower, and then pack the joists up to height. That’s because the timber will vary in size slightly, and it’s a lot easier to pack the joists up than notch them down. I hope that helps

@@nakedapprentice Yep thanks for that. Yeah we live in Christchurch and have had a recent Eng report done on house. Patio has cracks in surface slab and does not meet building code as it is up against house. To save money for demo etc of patio, I thought build a deck over the top of old concrete patio and keep to same fall from house. Thanks for the advice.

@thetechnician832 I’m in Chch as well! My thoughts are that putting a deck over the patio will only hide any potential problems. Putting a strip drain in would fix that, but will probably cost more than it’s worth. But, if you have access to a large grinder or concrete cutter, you could even just cut some chases in the concrete to allow water to drain away. I’m not an experienced expert on that, but if it was my house, that’s what I would probably do. Either that of hire a big breaker and a hard fill skip and spend a day or two breaking it up. It’s hard work though! Then just cover it all with a deck.

The comp was fun even though I wasn’t happy with the result. Hopefully, next year’s contestants learn a bit from this for whatever their competition brings

Absolutely. I think in construction we get quite complacent, so it’s hard to constantly remind yourself not to cut corners with safety.

Thanks mate

Yeah, I’ve tried that before, but they were hard to find with a small magnet. Maybe I should get a bigger one… or just make sure the blocking is right next time.

@@nakedapprentice I find the ones that come with the dummy door handles usually works really well

@duanolckers6905 oh yeah, good thought. I think I used a fridge magnet, which wasn’t very strong.

Yup. I was getting very frustrated until it all started to click into place.

Absolutely. I’m lucky not to have blinded myself. Even with my glasses on, I still got a decent shiner. You’ll see that on the next video, filmed a few days later.

Thanks man, I appreciate that

Thanks mate

I’ve been thinking about that, but I’m not sure how to make it interesting enough for RUclips to push it out. I’ll think of something for the next job

Thanks. I’m working on a plan for a speed square vid, but I’m not sure when I’ll fit it in.

The painters started on Wednesday and the kitchen arrived on Friday. All the other trades need to get in and do their magic and we just have a few small things to do, so it’s not that far off finished.

Thanks mate

Yeah, it is faster, but your right to say there is a whole skill set missing. But, with the regular stuff ups and the odd renovation, they do pick up the ability to frame in situ, just not really good at it. Mind you, if half the building stories from the US are right, even framers there don’t know how to frame 😂

Nah, I would never dream of competing with those hands 😂

I don’t think so. As long as there’s some of the groove left, the board can’t seperate from the one below. Even without it, there’s still about 30mm lap, which is the same as standard Linea boards

Hey mate, it’s the Diamondback Grande 2.0. I’ve got a full review on it here - Diamondback GRRande 2.0 Toolbelt Review ruclips.net/video/SEt3lOcJuvw/видео.html

Jibsaw for fibre cement is a great idea!

I do have one, but I can’t get into corners with it. I need to find one that is more of an axe head shape, so I can get the corners without over cutting them. I can’t take the credit for the jigsaw. Someone gave me that tip on either Instagram or the origin cladding video a couple of months ago. I don’t know how well normal timber blades go, but I’m using tungsten carbide ones, which were pretty cheap.

@@nakedapprentice ahh yes.. cornrers.

No sir, you did right. Keep it up. As welder, invested in a lot of things - and now as a journeyman I still have them and still getting lots of use of ‘em.

Awesome man. Buying good quality tools that make you more efficient at your job is absolutely the way to go. For some tools, there is simply no effective substitute. For example, I bought my 125mm circular saw specifically so I could cut out my flooring at home to relevel it. The alternative was doing it with a multitool and probably speeding hundreds on blades and many hours. I’ve since found so many uses for it, which my other saw won’t do.

​@@nakedapprentice can you use a cut of tool instead of 125mm circular saw? I'm asking just out of curiosity

​@@nakedapprentice can you use a cut of tool instead of 125mm circular saw? I'm asking just out of curiosity

@pubghater9885 For rough cuts maybe, but I use this for everything from framing to finishing

Nah, Princess Leia 😂

Thank for your feedback. Yeah, I definitely need my own laser, but I am borrowing the bosses one at the moment. When I get a van, I’ll get a few more things, including a track saw

@nakedapprentice Nice, it looks like you're based in Christchurch? Just started watching your content, it's good stuff 👌

Yup, in Christchurch. I did a few trips to Wānaka for my old company, but the boss made the difficult call to close down the Chch crew early this year. Are you in Christchurch as well?

@nakedapprentice Nah, I'm based in Nelson but recognized some of the scenery as I was in Christchurch hospital for a week having surgery, got back to Nelson today.

Oh, hopefully it’s nothing too serious. We might have passed on the rod yesterday. We were in Blenheim for the Vineyard Half Marathon for the weekend

Yup, and that confused me when I first started my apprenticeship and was looking at getting a badder. In NZ, we pretty much just use 16G bradders for carpentry. Furniture makers may use 18 and 23, and I think some factory workers may use 15 ga. We fit our doors here with screws generally, so no nail gun is needed for that.

Pretty much. It’s called Linea Oblique and it was awful to install. It would probably be ok vertically, but horizontally, we needed to cut the tongue off the bottom a lot of the boards to slot them in.

Thanks mate. Did you see the previous video where we got the vast majority of it done? It was just those flashings, which create a fire break in the cavity, that had us waiting to finish it.

Absolutely. I’ll need to have a van before I can cart one around though - my car is already riding pretty low. There’s been requests for a new Makita table saw for years and rumours saying they won’t because of health and safety restrictions. I think there’s new standards coming in the US, which will make it even worse. From what I understand, sawstops are becoming a requirement there.

Oh wow. Well never too late to switch to dewalt lol.

@Sgten01 😂 that’s a good one! I will admit their flexvolt skillys are pretty good

For finishing work, very rarely. At that point everything should already be square. Even for framing, we mark out most of our frames with chalk lines and square them using 3-4-5. For smaller walls, not worth chalking, I do use a framing square.

@@nakedapprentice 👍

Should do 😁

I can’t take all the credit. There’s a lot of subcontractors all doing their bit, plus a project manager overseeing everything. Due to time constraints, there’s also a few things I would like to have fixed but couldn’t. But, all in all, I’m pretty happy I managed to pull this job out of the dire state it was in when I stated there 3 months ago. I’ve noticed that about carpentry in the states too, and then a lot of complaining from trim carpenters that framers suck. The beauty of our system is we generally do or are experienced in every aspect of carpentry and often have to deal with our own mistakes, so there more incentive to do things properly. There are plenty, though, who are smashing out units and cookie cutter houses that are well below the standards I expect.

@@nakedapprentice Absolutely correct . I guess there at times so much building here . That you can spend an entire carpentry career as a framer or a siding man , or interior trimmer . Never knowing what you built and how you might have just hurt the next guy down the line. Framers will squeal about masons begets . Drywall hangers squealing about framers, Many times , Finish carpenters act as though they are the wisest of all . That's because it all ends with them LOL . Here in The US , especially around larger cities . Even framing was cut up into smaller sub-groups . One crew only builds first floors , Another crew does only walls , another crew only does second floors , Another only does second floors walls and another only does roof or trusses . This was the a perfect recipe for end result junk and pandemonium . It kept carpenters dumb and pigeon holed , Thus pay was less per man but production in their minds increased . I tried to enter that world 35 years ago . Tested it and realized that it will take me nowhere , I guess it was based on Henry' Ford's means of production Where one guy only knows left side tires and lug nuts. But would not know what to do on the right side . Yet they were building a car !! .. Every one of your video's . I see you are going down the right path of carpentry . Not solely for the monetary gain , but the overall gain for yourself , contractors and ultimately homeowners

I guess it’s a bit like my old line of work, frame and truss production in a factory. No did respect to those guys, but they often don’t understand the implications of some of their short cuts or simply don’t care because they are pretty poorly paid. When I went out into the real world of carpentry, everything about framing really started to fall into place.

@@nakedapprentice Precisely .

Maybe when I get a van

Would love one of those 125mm skillys

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Yup, they’re definitely the way to go

Thanks. Here’s a question for you - do you pronounce soffit as sof-eat or sof-it? Or something else? I do wonder if we pronounce it weirdly here

Spot on. We needed to get them up and secured quickly, but I adjusted them later and framed underneath them.

Good question. Yup, it’s H3.1, so it can tolerate a bit of moisture over its lifetime. Even H1.2 would be ok for a while, but that not allowed for window reveals. MDF, such as the stairs, would disintegrate pretty quickly.

I haven’t noticed, but I should give it a service this weekend. I think maybe it was a result of trying to cut out the excess background noise. The young fella and subcontractors was inside making a racket when I was doing the soffit.

Absolutely. One of the first things my old boss said to me about decks is that they are essentially finish carpentry. Although the framing isn’t directly seen, there is little that can be done to hide it if it’s wrong.