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@@Abdur-Rehman Ripped out early 2023 unfortunately

@@urgentkestrel7990 Yes :-)

I wonder where, I’d love to live in a place with a lift like that. Even though I’m young enough to use the stairs, I’m only 24 years old.

The vast majority don’t exist in their original form. Probably 50% are recognisable as modernised Express Lifts, and the other half are fully ripped out and replaced. There are however a few sites in the book I know of which do still have original ones left!

@ Which ones?

@user-kp6xf4gf7t 1:10 The Metropole Hotel in Birmingham still has an abandoned one which is original. 1:55 Although it’s about the escalators, the Broad Street Mall in Reading still has original Express Lifts in the building. 2:05 The NatWest Tower still has an Express Lift travelling 42 floors. 2:50 The Plymouth Civic Centre had DMR Express Lifts up until recently. 4:40 The John Ratcliffe Hospital still has 3 original Express Lifts. Plus lots of others with modernised Expresses. But those are the only ones I know of which still do or up until very recently had original ones.

@user-kp6xf4gf7t Grosvenor Centre in Northampton has Modernized Glass Express Lifts and Newlands Centre in Kettering also has Modernized Express Lifts

@ Plus windmill house in london

They are still there if that’s what you’re wondering! :-)

@ Can you visit them when you are in the london area next? (I knew they were still there but thanks anyway.)

@@ANDREWWALLFORD123 When did I mess around with elevator?

@Lift.Tracker You press the button 4 up and press 3 down, the same again and again. I don't know why you stop doing this, mate. See 1:58sec.

@@ANDREWWALLFORD123It has zero effect on anything when you do that. :-)

@@rjm1764 Yeah for sure! They are two-speed, and the acceleration is fairly harsh as well.

@@LiftyGamez It was the EXACT same? Or just a similar design? That’s really interesting because Elevonic 411 is a microprocessor based controller isn’t it? Also, do you know what other sort of positioning system the Elevonic has as well, or is it just that on its own? Just trying to think why it would need something so complex like that, as I’ve been told that this device is actually only for the terminal floor stopping, and not used as a general positioning. I’m still yet to correct the title and think of what to say lol

@@Lift.Tracker I couldn't see the inside as the box was jammed shut, but when the lifts were still in service it had the exact same design with the long ramps at the top and bottommost floors and the switch on the box. Those had selector tape for positioning too which I thought was a bit odd

@@LiftyGamez Yeah, that does seem odd. Given that Elevonic 411 is microprocessor based, why would it have selector tape as if it has a pie plate selector the same as a relay Otis? Maybe it actually did have a pie plate selector and had a controller like a sort of microprocessor version of this? ruclips.net/video/RXeF6ZSUbCc/видео.htmlsi=OfowVKdRoqc6n9vR I really don’t know much about Otis stuff to be honest. There’s a lot more variety compared to other manufacturers with Otis I think!

​@@Lift.Tracker no, as far as I can tell the selector tape probably drives an encoder of sorts, which sends feedback to the controller. I know of 90s Japanese made Otis lifts that have this positioning system as well as some 401s, but never expected it to be used on a 411. Other 401s and 411s use the standard shaft bars without any selector tape, but its hard to tell which positioning system an Elevonic uses without looking into the shaft or motor room

Also. Do you mind if I add ur Instagram on your profile ? I’d love to show u some old lifts I’ve got filmed and talk about them etc

@@mattacat3622 It’s worth noting that the Mitsubishi PLC isn’t actually a lift controller specifically. It’s just a general use PLC which could be used for anything, but just happens to be made by Mitsubishi and Bennie have decided to use one to run one of their lifts. But I know what you mean, it is an interesting combination! Something which I discovered some time back is that the inductors (shaft vane readers) on some relay controlled Bennie lifts are actually made by GEC. And Express Lifts were a subsidiary company of GEC, meaning Bennie were technically funding their biggest competitor with their lifts! Kind of like how Apple use Samsung to make their displays I suppose.

@@mattacat3622Yeah, feel free! :-)

Added! That’s some interesting facts there. Now seeing it, some of the fixtures on Bennies and Expresses were some what similar. Now I’m not sure if the link will work but this is an example of a Bennie with Original Black Dewhurst that I found a few months ago ruclips.net/video/fV24gsRoXoM/видео.htmlsi=DqyUYNtLC70P9do_

@@urgentkestrel7990 Yes Indeed

@@urgentkestrel7990 I don’t know, I haven’t been back there since I filmed this. The Wilko which the lift goes to has of course closed, so whether or not anything else has opened up there and made use of that lift I don’t know. It’s most likely still there but disused now would be my guess.

Ah ok

@@MrGingerFatCat Oh, yes! Those white Series 2 buttons really are a rarity to find nowadays. The classic Series 1s and the metal vandal resistant ones are the only ones about now really. It’s always interesting when you find lifts with those coffin hatches, because the lift shaft always ends up being significantly bigger than the lift car. It makes you think “it would’ve been better to make use of it and just have a larger lift”, but I believe the reasoning for it was the lift’s maximum passenger load capacity would then exceed the specifications for the model of lift installed. Just having it as a hatch would of course make that a non issue. You never find such a feature on modern day lifts though, so I wonder why they stopped.

@@user-kp6xf4gf7t Yep! :-)

@@liftguy30 Wow, that’s a lot of design effort just for it to only work at terminal floors! Really interesting to hear about the well transducer. I do remember being told about it some time back. So, the the theory of the ramps in the shaft being set up in a Zig-Zag layout is incorrect, and the only ramps that would’ve ever been there is just at the top and bottom? It would be great to see what the well transducer looked like! Please do let me know if you manage to find the photo!

I have found a manual, some selsyn generators and motors and a silverstat damping switch, I’ll do a video when time permits