Sailing Destiny
Sailing Destiny
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How Truly Free Are You ?
A bit of a soap box episode where I talk about my VERY strong belief in Freedom and answer the question I get often as to why I get on a plane so often.
IMPORTANT - This episode is not intended to offend anyone rather get you to think about your reality. Much Love
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#5 - Build Series - Navigation - OpenCPN and Bareboat Necessities
Просмотров 23112 часов назад
In this episode I take a first look at what navigation system I want to install on Destiny and discuss what setup I am going to be using in Italy in a few days time. ▶️ Visit My Website: www.sailingdestiny.com ▶️Sailing Destiny Podcast: www.sailingdestiny.com/podcasts/sailing-destiny ▶️Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sailing-destiny/id1738274659 ▶️Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.com...
#4 - Build Series - Coastal Boats - Cambodia
Просмотров 1,3 тыс.14 дней назад
Welcome! In todays video I do a debrief on my trip to Cambodia to visit Coastal Boats there in Kampot. ▶️ Visit My Website: www.sailingdestiny.com ▶️Sailing Destiny Podcast: www.sailingdestiny.com/podcasts/sailing-destiny ▶️Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sailing-destiny/id1738274659 ▶️Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.com/show/4DER0sFkE4QC48jUSzB9ok?si=bd67cb6f5aa94ecb&nd=1&dlsi=79c8...
Delos 2.0 Flip Party and my first look at an Aluminium Sailing Performance Cruising Catamaran
Просмотров 17 тыс.28 дней назад
Welcome! In todays video I give my thoughts and reflections on the Delos 2.0 Flip party but more importantly my first time on an Aluminium catamaran and how that relates to Destiny. Many thanks to the Stradbroke Yachts team for putting on the event. ▶️ Visit My Website: www.sailingdestiny.com ▶️Sailing Destiny Podcast: www.sailingdestiny.com/podcasts/sailing-destiny ▶️Apple Podcasts: podcasts.a...
Meraki Review - MUST Watch Movie for all Sailors and Adventurers
Просмотров 255Месяц назад
In this weeks episode I have a quick chat about the movie Meraki by Robert Edmunds featuring Keith Edwards and why it is a must watch for all sailors and adventurers ! ▶️ Visit My Website: www.sailingdestiny.com ▶️Sailing Destiny Podcast: www.sailingdestiny.com/podcasts/sailing-destiny ▶️Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sailing-destiny/id1738274659 ▶️Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.c...
#3 Build Series - David de Villiers Interview - July 2024 - Performance Aluminium Catamaran
Просмотров 1 тыс.Месяц назад
Welcome! Today I got to sit down with David de Villiers and have a chat about all things aluminium cruising catamarans ▶️ Visit My Website: www.sailingdestiny.com ▶️Sailing Destiny Podcast: www.sailingdestiny.com/podcasts/sailing-destiny ▶️Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sailing-destiny/id1738274659 ▶️Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.com/show/4DER0sFkE4QC48jUSzB9ok?si=bd67cb6f5aa94ec...
The Sober Sailor
Просмотров 77Месяц назад
Welcome! In today's episode I talk about all how I gave up drinking about 4 1/2 years ago and the ripple effect that this has had in my life... ▶️ Visit My Website: www.sailingdestiny.com ▶️Sailing Destiny Podcast: www.sailingdestiny.com/podcasts/sailing-destiny ▶️Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sailing-destiny/id1738274659 ▶️Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.com/show/4DER0sFkE4QC48jU...
#2 Build Series - Top 12 Questions To Ask A Shipyard - David de Villiers Aluminium Catamaran
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Welcome! Today I'm diving into the Top 12 questions, with one bonus one for David, that I should ask the shipyards when I start visiting them later this month. ▶️ Visit My Website: www.sailingdestiny.com ▶️Sailing Destiny Podcast: www.sailingdestiny.com/podcasts/sailing-destiny ▶️Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sailing-destiny/id1738274659 ▶️Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.com/show/...
How did Destiny get her name ?
Просмотров 372 месяца назад
Welcome! In today's episode we look into how Destiny actually got her name. I hope you enjoy ! ▶️ Visit My Website: www.sailingdestiny.com ▶️Sailing Destiny Podcast: www.sailingdestiny.com/podcasts/sailing-destiny ▶️Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sailing-destiny/id1738274659 ▶️Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.com/show/4DER0sFkE4QC48jUSzB9ok?si=bd67cb6f5aa94ecb&nd=1&dlsi=79c8059b2b07...
#1 Build Series - First Meeting with David de Villiers - Performance Aluminium Cruising Catamaran
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.2 месяца назад
Welcome! Today we're looking at the various options that I have in the cruising catamaran world ! ▶️ Visit My Website: www.sailingdestiny.com ▶️Sailing Destiny Podcast: www.sailingdestiny.com/podcasts/sailing-destiny ▶️Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sailing-destiny/id1738274659 ▶️Spotify Podcast: open.spotify.com/show/4DER0sFkE4QC48jUSzB9ok?si=bd67cb6f5aa94ecb&nd=1&dlsi=79c8059b2...
Post Sailing Clarity - Phuket Thailand Charter Debrief
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Post Sailing Clarity - Phuket Thailand Charter Debrief
Am I Going to Build an Aluminium Performance Cruising Catamaran ?
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Am I Going to Build an Aluminium Performance Cruising Catamaran ?
When you fall out of Love with the thing you Love the most
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When you fall out of Love with the thing you Love the most
What Cruising Catamaran am I going to buy ?
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What Cruising Catamaran am I going to buy ?
Catamaran Comparison: Performance Vs Cruising Explained
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Catamaran Comparison: Performance Vs Cruising Explained

Комментарии

  • @oliverschmidt2803
    @oliverschmidt2803 18 часов назад

    You are so right with a lot of this!

  • @leighroyconway1718
    @leighroyconway1718 23 часа назад

    David de villiers from westerford got it right . Q the ocean adventurer 😊

  • @diezelmiller
    @diezelmiller 11 дней назад

    Clint, you have no idea how this video intrigued me, I had a 44 ft Kelsal cat 20 years ago based in Bazaruto. I have been researching ever since, exploring the various options of purchasing a new boat or building my own, along the lines you are doing. The most amazing thing is that she will be called Dignity by Decan Blue. I am so happy you cocked the name up. Anyone who knows me will be able to confirm this. Good luck with your build, I will be following along keenly.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 10 дней назад

      Hey Bruce - thanks so much for the comment and that's CRAZY about the song 🤯 Yip - good thing that I got it all messed up and look forward to Destiny and Dignity sharing an anchorage one day. Thanks for sharing that... so so cool ! Side note - surprised you found the video as it does not have many views (think it's a copyright thing but still learning the RUclips ways. 😊 )

  • @danielporter9193
    @danielporter9193 13 дней назад

    Hi Clint I'm doing the same thing as you I've been talking to David for about a year or longer. I came across your show after the first episode. But I'm about a year behind where you are so ill be watching with great interest. Keep up the good work

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 13 дней назад

      Hey Daniel - thanks for the comment and kind words. Epic to hear you are also chatting to David and also going this path. Stoked that you found the channel and the whole intention here is to document my journey so that others can benefit from my mistakes, assuming there will be many 🤦‍♂, and have a more streamlined build when they get to that part. Have you decided on which model you are going for yet... with a Fly Bridge... of course.... 😊

    • @danielporter9193
      @danielporter9193 13 дней назад

      ​@sailing.destiny I've been waiting on the Nahoa as well to see it once it's finished. I have been looking at building it myself and Laser welding it. I just want to be able to fit a fishing boat on the back. I'd be interested in seeing the price on hot works if you are able to share

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 12 дней назад

      @@danielporter9193 I don't have any pricing yet but reach out to Geoff directly and I am sure he will share the pricing when he has it. As for the fishing boat on the back... I am also going to have a decent size tender so that I can get to surf/dive spots quickly but have David in my head/ear thinking about the weight of it and the impact on performance.

    • @danielporter9193
      @danielporter9193 12 дней назад

      David told me the same thing about the added weight. I'm a Australian and I love the top end fishing. With the average adult male salt-water croc being 5.2m ill sacrifice a bit of proformance while I'm going around the tropics here.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 12 дней назад

      Holy... I hear you about the crocs... they scare the shit about me. I keep telling David that I am a minimalist with clothing and most things... until it comes to all my ocean toys then I have a bit of a "habit" ... but due to the fact that I don't have a lot of "stuff" then all the ocean toys are permitted 🤣

  • @wanabesailer9599
    @wanabesailer9599 13 дней назад

    Hey Clint, Rupert Verwey here also from South Africa 😅. Funny you mentioned the Mumby cats as I did buy the Mumby 48 DIY plans and will contact Jeff to get pricing to build my boat.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 13 дней назад

      Howzit boet. Thanks for the comment and support. Geoff sent me some updated pictures of the Mumby he is building and it's moving along nicely.... his website should be in the description of this video but let me know if you need help connecting with him... and ... don't steal my build slot 🤣

    • @wanabesailer9599
      @wanabesailer9599 13 дней назад

      @@sailing.destiny trust me, I still need to work another 10 years before I can have my boat built🥴, maybe end of next year if I get a loan 😅

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 13 дней назад

      @@wanabesailer9599 I'm sure you can get it done quicker than that... but follow along my journey so that I can make the mistakes for you so you don't have to make them 🤣 Thanks again for the comment and support. Dankie 🙏

  • @pmorph
    @pmorph 14 дней назад

    So I had my pescott 11.7 built by a single builder in Noosa 17 years ago. What I learned from this was: You need to really need to trust your builder-- They are most of the time working on the boat without you being there. If you're paying on a time and materials basis, you really need to trust the builder. A sign of a good boatbuilder is clean and organised shed. Not necessarily tidy but organised. Are the tools looked after, are the resins and cloth (not relevant to you) organised etc. Ideally you want your boat builder to be completely anal! Ie attention to detail. Ross was fanatical and while he was not the fastest, he only did things once and they were well done. I was there when he was building the daggerboards, his attention to detail was amazing! I pretty much lost all of my arguments with him and only two of them do I sort of regret. I also traveled to Noosa to be a labourer on the boat-- learned shit loads and loved every minute of it. Finally, it will go over budget-- have lots of spare cash but again your builder should be warning you about this and as long as you trust him it should work out. btw, avoid teak decks, they're a total pain in the arse! Phil

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 14 дней назад

      Hey Phi - appreciate your sharing your experience in such great depth... sounds like you had an awesome build experience. Good news this side is that I think I have locked in a VIP "build angel" which will help me along the way to ensure that I maintain the quality I am looking for. As for the teak deck... agree 100 % and what I "meant" to say was a teak finish deck not real teak... will look at flexideck or something equivalent when I get there. The whole focus on the build will be to KISS both in construction and ongoing maintenance. Thanks again for the comment and support ! 🙏

    • @pmorph
      @pmorph 14 дней назад

      @@sailing.destiny re decks, the issue is heat. Flexi teak is great as a teak alternative, but heat is the issue especially if one wants to go barefoot and/or lie on the decks. Even light grey decks get hot compared to white decks. I'm enjoying the videos and discussions

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 14 дней назад

      Thanks Phil - appreciate the compliment. Will go down the decking rabbit hole when I get closer to fit out but I hear you about the heat (says me who wants to vinyl wrap her in Black 🤦‍♂️). Cork has also been mentioned for both internal and eternal decking which sounds interesting.

  • @normancook4620
    @normancook4620 14 дней назад

    PS welds crack!

  • @normancook4620
    @normancook4620 14 дней назад

    Clint: do yourself a a favor take a Tour of Boings Seattle assembly plant and look at how they construct a aircraft air frame and sheath the hull! these are EXTREEMLY STRONG [ STRONGER THAN A SAILBOAT!] And they are NOT welded yet they are water tight and can take extreme temperature changes from Tropic to negative temps at 40K ft while pressurized! likewise Tractor trailer 50ft truck bodies can handle the constant thrashing of roads and handle desert heat and still be Refrig! In both cases these vehicles are built to meet extreme Environments they need to be as light as possible .....think about that as you fly around the World ! in both cases these craft are NOT WELDED! SHOULD YOU DESIGN A SAILBOAT to these standards a damaged boat hull can be repaired anywhere even a desert Island! No expert welders required and a sailboat designed to be built this way can be fabricated to be shipped World wide in kit form to any body anywhere ! this provides for expansion of the CLASS and propagation of construction....let's talk! Norman Cook njsea7@gmail.com or 1 401 218 5042 by text

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 13 дней назад

      Hey Norman. Thanks for the detailed comment and suggestion. I'm mapping out a snowboard trip for early next year and If I do head state side I will definitely check out the boing factory - sounds super cool. Thanks for the comment and support !

  • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
    @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 14 дней назад

    You should also have a chat with Pete AKA plucky as his boats being built in Vietnam ..hes a wild Australian... Sailing into Freedom is his channel. Also look at Odd lifes monohull build in France.. for technical comparison. The other people and area to look at is Nautistyles and their contacts in Turkey... where they have a massive boat building and engineering base. Its also easy to get to and earning rates are competitive.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 14 дней назад

      Hey Clive - thanks so much for the comment. I've been in touch with the Odisea team already just trying to get over my Vietnam curse 🤦‍♂️ I will check out Odd Life's channel and by memory David does have a contact in Turkey already so will pursue that as well. 🙏

  • @Kathikas1
    @Kathikas1 15 дней назад

    I have built two trimarans, both with dagger boards, and one also had ama foils. We twice took on coral and lost, but the damage to the structure around the head of the boards is the show stopper. Even at 5kts you will spend a lot of time and money fixing this damage. A friend with a 65’ tri needed to find some heavy duty hydraulic equipment to extract the d/b from the carnage caused before he could start fixing the board and all the structure around it. Having learned that lesson we built the second boat with a frangible tip to the board, but it still needed significant downtime to repair I know that Tim Mumby installs a very simple d/b 1:1 control system on his aluminium cats but most others need quite heavy and expensive winches and various lines and jammers If I were to have another cruising multi it would certainly not have daggerboards. Kick up centreboards as John Marples designs them are however a different kettle of fish tho’ I am unaware of any twin c/b catamarans out there I wonder what Nahoa will go for this time?

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 14 дней назад

      Thanks so much for sharing your experience and right now the dagger board debate is still up in the air this side. My initial, although uninformed, gut feel is exactly what you describe where you do hit something then you are stuck. My intention with Destiny is to go far off the beaten track so KISS is where it is at. Having said that Elcie, David's 62, did have daggerboards and knowing that David has the KISS methodology I am sure he will have a way. From what I know Nahoa are not going for daggerboards but this is on the list for me to talk to David about and come up with the cost benefit analysis later this year. Thanks for the comment and support and for sharing your experience 🙏

  • @waltervanderboor
    @waltervanderboor 21 день назад

    Sounds like you totally under estimated it at the start. Just designing the interior, we have been working on it for almost 2 years. There's so many small things. Know the Nahoa and some of the choices they made. There's always compromise for everything. Just as you did: determine your usage and then decide.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 18 дней назад

      Hey Walter - if you referring to me underestimating how much time and "ripple affect" each change made... then yes... you are 100 % correct. Was eye opening to sit with David and I'm so glad that I went to see him in person so that I could fully understand the process. Yip, I am going to go with about 97 % of what Nahoa have designed with one or two small tweaks that David also feels are good ideas and worth the time/money to make the change. Thanks for the comment and support.

    • @waltervanderboor
      @waltervanderboor 18 дней назад

      @@sailing.destiny Yes that's what I meant. Even for us, (experienced sailors) designing a boat is a big project. But make sure you know what you want because them designers are often lazy to make any changes, saying. cannot/difficult etc. And then the next day you see someone who did what you wanted. So be very clear in your requirements before you decide on a compromise on your wishes.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 18 дней назад

      Thanks for the comment and my whole logic/thinking behind going with David is leveraging the 20+ years that Delos and Nahoa have from experience as live aboards and capitalising on that. What yacht are you planning on or building ?

    • @waltervanderboor
      @waltervanderboor 18 дней назад

      @@sailing.destiny Understand, totally support that thought. We actually live aboard for over a decade ourselves, obviously know them. Boats are very personal, for instance I want a bath in my new boat, and a piano. And care less for performance, more for comfort. All personal choices. Similarly, we want a furling boom and dislike lazy jacks.

  • @anthonywheaton1632
    @anthonywheaton1632 22 дня назад

    Looking forward to seeing your Nahoa 55 build start

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 21 день назад

      Thanks so much for the comment. Yip... going to be a magical when we she starts getting built that's for sure... got to visit a few ship yards first to find the best fit.

  • @OldSalt1315
    @OldSalt1315 24 дня назад

    Listen to David and keep it simple. The less fancy stuff the better. You will have less to maintain, and more time sailing!

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 24 дня назад

      Yes Sir.... I keep reminding myself that KISS is the way to go. Thanks for the comment and support.

  • @stevenschapera2888
    @stevenschapera2888 27 дней назад

    Always remember: a camel is a horse designed by a committee. Building in once place, doing trades in another, from a design /designer in another, across different languages….thats just NOT efficient. Close your eyes and imagine the “perfect” situation: it would be doing EVERYTHING in one place. Anything that varies from that is a compromise.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 27 дней назад

      Thanks for the comment and LOVE the camel analogy 🤣 Yip - in hind sight.. I think you can even see it in my thought process when I was recording... that I realised by splitting trades through shipyards I was just looking for trouble. But really appreciate your insight to help me stay focussed on one yard. 🙏

  • @princeangel3580
    @princeangel3580 28 дней назад

    Am sorry, no troll jere, but only pictures (no technical details ) and screenshot of internet, no video, i appreciated the interview with Devillier, but am afraid i prefer to look things more real in a construction or planning. Fair sea, am living.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      I hear you and your points are valid.... BUT... this channel is just an outlet for me and will never be a documentary type "vlog style" that the other channels do so well. I am not running this as a business and personally value my time so as not to constantly be filming everything and rather immerse myself where I am.... so that's why one take wonders is where it's at. Thanks for watching though and sending love.

  • @Bigfish300
    @Bigfish300 28 дней назад

    Clint, it is ok to build in country a and fitout in country b, but you cannot sail or motor between them and shipping cost will kill your "saving"

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      Yip it's going to be interesting if that even is an option and will start to get those numbers this week. Will report back and thanks as always for the comment and support

    • @stevenschapera2888
      @stevenschapera2888 27 дней назад

      @@sailing.destinyhaving run supply chains across 35 countries over 43 years I can tell you that your chances of success are VERY SLIM if you elect to do different trades in different countries. You are falling back on your “boer maak’n plan” confirmation bias. You will regret it.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 27 дней назад

      @@stevenschapera2888 fair point and thanks for your earlier comment as well. One yard wonder is the goal... 🤙

  • @user-cx8eg6lc8k
    @user-cx8eg6lc8k 28 дней назад

    You've really got to learn how to do a presentation. Maybe being prepared, have things organized both in your mind and on paper before proceeding. If a company was relying on you to sell a product, they'd go Broke. The End. AD.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      Thanks so much for being my first troll...... sending love ❤️

  • @sparklepea
    @sparklepea 28 дней назад

    Yep I fully understand the frustration of the Bruce Hwy

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      It's a wonderful beast that one... 🤦‍♂️

  • @BennyTheNerd
    @BennyTheNerd 28 дней назад

    Are you getting the answers from your question in writing, signed by the ship builder? ⁉

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      That is my intention or just seeing a way that I can protect myself during the build. Since this video had a lot of thoughts/questions on payment/ownership etc but I'll get to that in a later video. Off to see my first shipyard this week in Cambodia so a learn by doing experience. Thanks for the comment.

    • @BennyTheNerd
      @BennyTheNerd 28 дней назад

      @@sailing.destiny Also when you go to the potential shipyards, do you send the the David drawings first, so they can better answer some of you questions ?

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      @@BennyTheNerd yes. They are what are called the stock plans that you can buy off David's site. The Nahoa 55 design work is still not complete yet so we are working off one of the 53 models to get indicative pricing. All the yards I am planning on seeing David has been dealing with the owners beforehand so there is some relationship already built up.

    • @brentjs1979
      @brentjs1979 16 дней назад

      I would think it is best managing the brand warranties yourself directly with the brands then there is no middle man.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 16 дней назад

      @@brentjs1979 spot on. Watch the video that is dropping on Monday about my first visit to a boat yard in Cambodia. All the main warranties will be between me and the manufacturer.... aka no middle men. Thanks for the comment and support.

  • @pmorph
    @pmorph 28 дней назад

    Hey Clint. Couple of thoughts. The forward cockpit is great, but in big weather you obviously get no protection so the forward cockpit is purely functional with great visability. At anchor the place to hang out is the aft cockpit (wrong name I know) because you get protected from the weather there-- especially if it is windy and wet. So you're right to make sure that it is big enough to hang out in and if there is a sliding or lifting door into the saloon you get the whole indoor/outdoor effect which is great. Finally, where did you land on daggerboards? I'm sure you've looked at Plukky from Sailing into Freedom building his AL cat in vietnam but he has a couple of videos of them building the daggerboard cases and daggerboards. Definitely more work but I still think it is worth it. Cheers Phil

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      Hey Phil - thanks as always for your comment and support. Right now I am leaning towards the dagger board option but I will need to chat to the shipyards, seeing my first one this week in Cambodia, and then David as well as to how much extra complexity and cost it may add to the build. If I had the magic wand then ... yes ... but costs/logistics etc could point me in another direction. Thanks again.

  • @LoanwordEggcorn
    @LoanwordEggcorn 28 дней назад

    Aluminum boats will bend (dent) long before they break. Plastic composite boats will grind themselves to pieces on rocks, get gashed by semi-submerged cargo containers, etc. Aluminum is also vastly more ecologically sound, being highly recycled and recyclable. Plastic composites, not very much. Aluminum oxidizes, which forms a protective layer similar to stone, and preventing further corrosion. All boats, including wood, have galvanic corrosion if they have more than one type of metal in contact with seawater. That's why all boats need sacrificial anodes, usually Zinc.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      Thanks so much for the comment and support and for sharing your knowledge 🙏

  • @user-yn3vl9bs2w
    @user-yn3vl9bs2w 28 дней назад

    Who are you?

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      I am Clint .... magic to meet you virtually 🤙

  • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
    @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 28 дней назад

    Also take a look at this design..ruclips.net/video/E-ieRSjg6us/видео.html&feature=shared The front sails provide shade quite often underway ...but a forward bimini is possible and i think they added one later to the original Elcie .

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      Awesome thanks for sharing that link ... will take a look later today ... keen to see all forward bimini options as there is so much space up front 🙏

  • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
    @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 28 дней назад

    Have a quick look at Sailing with the james's this week ...they have a Al cat hauled out in a small Perth yard.. they found a previsessor to theirs.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 28 дней назад

      Thanks so much for that. For those wanting to take a look it's at the 4:30 mark and the video is here: ruclips.net/video/tMWATlbpT1E/видео.html

  • @rustie4242
    @rustie4242 29 дней назад

    It always amazes me that people think that dagger boards are only for performance!!! This is not their most important aspect. They are primarily a safety device. A catamaran acts like a raft on the water, having the ability to raise daggerboards in heaven conditions allows the vessel to slide sideways if hit by a rouge wave for example. Having no mini keels to trip on is a huge advantage. The ability to beat off a lee shore should not be underestimated, there is much less leeway with dagger boards than mini keels, especially in the aerated water of breaking waves on the surface. this can be the difference between safely make your way out to sea or ending up on the beach. JMHO, cheers Rustie.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 29 дней назад

      Hey Rustie - thanks for the comment and for taking the time to provide such great insight. I hear you on the dagger boards for safety and the more I think about it the more I think that David and I need to have a decent conversation about it. He still has a few months to finalise the design for Nahoa, from what I know, and then when we sit down to look into my tweaks I'll have the conversation with him. Thanks again.

  • @kirkb3473
    @kirkb3473 Месяц назад

    Great video Clint! I have to say I was extremely impressed with David all around, his conservative nature in the build of his boats and honest really came across clearly. He’s someone I’d be proud to be working with building a catamaran and I can see why you and others are excited to be working with him, a true professional. Also thanks for the shout out during the comments/questions portion. David was spot on with his answer and definitely something that people considering building an aluminum boat should be clear on. A high quality aluminum build with the same equipment and systems to a similar level of finished quality is going to be on par with a high quality Carbon/Epoxy build catamaran. It was also very impressive how he answered the displacement question, and loved how he just shakes his head when people (like you and me lol) keep adding “stuff” to these boats. 100% guilty here, but like he said its all a series of compromises, and if adding a dishwasher and washer dryer keeps my wife smiling then fantastic we are adding the weight to the boat! So on the flybridge, just go sort of hybrid with a lounger pad up there, that’s what we’ve done after seeing it on our friend’s boat we did the salty dawg rally aboard. Was so cool, and just had to give up one solar panel. Anyway, sorry for not seeing this video until now, been a crazy busy few weeks, but I’ll reach out soon and we can do a zoom call, also feel free to check out our instagram SailingVaster. (Now 6 months out from splash day!) Cheers!

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Hey Kirk - thanks as always for the comment and support. Yip .. one of the first things I said to David (besides the Flybridge banter) was that AC and a dishwasher for me was non negotiable 🤣 Please do let me know about what lounger options/brands you spotted as this could be an opportunity for me to do a "Flybridge" episode. I was actually thinking out this as David mentioned that Delos had found a brand of solar panels that can harness crazy energy so with all that coach roof top and lounger or two sounds 🤙 So good to know that you are 6 months away from splash... that's epic. Have followed you over on the insta world to follow you progress. Thanks again as always an no rush on the Zoom .. we can get there when we get there.

    • @kirkb3473
      @kirkb3473 Месяц назад

      @@sailing.destiny definitely look forward to chatting more about your conversation with David and your upcoming project. Are you going to be in Bangkok for a while yet? We will be there in about 3 weeks & would be great to meet up if you’re still in the area!

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 29 дней назад

      @@kirkb3473 I will be in the UAE en route to Sardinia for a "motor" sailing trip ... we got a Lagoon 45 so let's see 😊 Will DM you my travel movements on Insta as I am back in BKK in September again.

  • @yanassi
    @yanassi Месяц назад

    I’m curious. Considering the green future, solar panels, evolving batteries, and relevant technologies …what are the naval engineers and architects doing in that regard on personal boats?

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Great question and from what I pick up there are 2 camps on this. I am doing an episode on energy on Destiny so keep an eye out for that. The 2 camps that I mention are electric everything and then the more conservative camp is electric pretty much everything but then still have diesel motors. David's designs have a LOT of space for solar so my intention is to power her mainly off solar batteries but then have "old school" diesel engines as well..... this is "as of today" and things change quickly. Thanks for the comment and support !

  • @camiesteiner8939
    @camiesteiner8939 Месяц назад

    Stumbled across your channel in my feed (RUclips algorithm must be working hahaa) Love watching your journey, you bring great transparency and humor. David and I crossed paths by happenstance at the Annapolis boat show last October; he's an absolute gem and his designs are, as you know, brilliant #KISS! Was stoked to hear your starting a Nahoa in early 2025, I have also selected to go with the Nahoa design but about a year behind your timeline to wrap up a work commitment. In May I connected with the Cambodia/VietNam yards and can't wait to hear how your visits go, what you learn and if you end up leaning in the same direction builder wise or find something unexpected in the UAE :) Thanks for sharing your journey, I am so excited to follow along!

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Hey Camie... thanks so much for the message and great to hear the RUclips algorithms are working. Sounds like we are on the exact same path... just that I am a few months ahead of you and hope that the content I put out there will add some value... that's the idea I guess is the put my failings/learnings out there so that others do not have to go through the same process. Thanks also for the compliment on my style and humour... and may have PTSD as when I read the humour part I just spotted my teenagers rolling their eyes at me saying "Dad you're not funny"... Thanks again for the comment and support and greetings from Bangkok ...

  • @chamuel48
    @chamuel48 Месяц назад

    What a nice gentleman David is. Thank you for this. Learning a lot listen to you both. Dreaming of being out there on my own cat but probably will stay that. Building my dream boat in my head for now. I used to be a windsurfer on a competitive level and had also had a Hobie Cat for a while. So definitively agree with David that a cat should sail and not just bob around. The sensation of speed on the water has to be experienced! Waiting for the 1000th subscriber 🙃.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks so much for the comment and support. Yip... David is a legend. One of my favourite sayings/quotes is "What a human thinks... a human becomes..." so keep dreaming about that cat 😊 Onwards and upwards to the 1000 mark and I'll hold up my side of the deal to do a live Q&A with David somewhere in the world.

  • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
    @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Месяц назад

    62 lol Elsie as was and as most of the world knows her. You might want to look at Plucky's build in Vietnam it's a little lighter as it's built for an E power challenge.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      I did take a look at that one thanks, Odisea by memory, and made contact with the team in Vietnam

  • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
    @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Месяц назад

    Ive made 3 comments that seem to have dissapeared , but may return in a while. The other thing you need to discuss is the insulation of the hull to keep it cool , to keep it warm and condensation free in cold waters .. and to reduce noise and the risk of corrosion safely on an Al hull without introducing volatiles and Hydrocarbon foams. To this end look at the French German and increasingly Scandinavian practice of using Cork sprayed on the inside and used as both Sea decking and interior flooring .

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Not to sure what happened to those comments as they did not pop up this side either ? Thanks for the tip of the cork for the insulation. I've had a brief chat to David about this and he mentioned some primer/paint that you can put on internally to help as well but will definitely check out the cork. Love the idea of the cork for interior flooring and decking. Thanks for the comment and support 🙏

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Месяц назад

      @@sailing.destiny I found the main one in a responses run of 4 comments .. There's several UK and naturally many European suppliers of Cork for all manners of use it's even fire resistant .. I cannot mention it but there's a big online Boating publication that's done a couple of more deep dives into practical alternatives to traditional decking materials and the pros and cons.. you can get it in different colours ..finishes even marked out like planking.. the life expectancy is also long and it can be refinished. If you have an open E mail link I can give you the info I have found. ODD life .. a lovely Brazilian couple are building an Al monohull and they have looked at a few boats using cork inside and out.. at the moment they are testing it in a van conversion in the S. Of France . 🧙🏻‍♂️🇬🇧👍🏻 The good thing is it can be removed if needed and yet doesn't allow bumps to chip like paint alone. Al oxidizes to form a natural Anodised layer if it's the correct grade .. which is why Yatchs like Elcie are raw metal finish. There are now special paints that have been developed one by a French company .. called chameleon paint. Its inversely thermally reactive so as it gets hot it reflects more energy to keep surfaces cool and as it cools below a certain temp it changes to absorb more solar energy. 🤓

  • @normancook4620
    @normancook4620 Месяц назад

    Can david advise me of the current status/ progress of the Delos ll project?

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Hey Norman - thanks for the comment. They did the hull flip this weekend, which is why David was here, and from my understanding the fabrication goes until October this year and then the fit out will start. Looking at 18 month build time ... but could be wrong

  • @normancook4620
    @normancook4620 Месяц назад

    mini keels will not give you the pointing or Preformance that Hi-aspect boards will provide, however , SCABBOARDs will keep the sailing performance and add SAFETY of centerboards without the design flaws centerboards suffer from........additionally they will save weight. Material selections will assist in monitoring weight

  • @pmorph
    @pmorph Месяц назад

    BTW, give up on the flybridge!!!! David is right!

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Oh I have ... it's just an inside joke between David and I know ... now to get the $$'s so that he can design the 65 WITH a flybridge for me 🤣

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Месяц назад

      ​@@sailing.destiny He would give you a can opener and say Umm you want it you do it. 😂

  • @pmorph
    @pmorph Месяц назад

    Follow up on the comments on daggerboards, they should all have sacrificial ends that break off when you hit something. I would respectfully disagree with David re going to remote places and daggerboards, Elsie, of course is the perfect example-- she is a damn good boat!

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks for the comment - hope you spotted the shout out. The more I hear about her the more I know I need to get onto Elcie !

    • @pmorph
      @pmorph Месяц назад

      @@sailing.destiny yeah saw the shout out.. t was a great interview.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      🙏

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Месяц назад

      I know I previously mentioned The Deep blue Rapido 550 and the Windelo's... The Windelo is the one with the enclosed forward cockpit and the Basalt fiber hull...being moulded they can be built faster... there's a film showing one being laid up and it's complete in under two weeks..and the finish involves no fairing as it's superior to GRP it's also a performer. With big sliding windows all round and rear doors that open up fully.

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Месяц назад

      @@pmorph 👍🏻Dagger boards can be made of Composite and should be designed to break off in a grounding or collision. If they are symmetrical you can swap them over and you can always carry at least one spare against the rails if not in the front locker. If the boss doesn't like GRP ...neither do I ...it's horrible stuff and an Environmental nightmare going forward as it uses ten times the energy and even more in water than Basalt fiber to produce. It produces CO2 to produce the glass as well as to melt it and produce the fibers it is also inferior in terms of many of its properties compared to the Basalt. Basalts inert UV radiation proof, Chemically and electrically largely inert and resistant to both osmosis mould and temperature extremes it's also an insulator thermal and sound wise. It's itchy free 😁😎and unlike GRP it's fragments don't usually form the nano needles that enter the environment and body's of living organisms. 😬 There's a recent piece of research been done on this in the UK and it's alarming.

  • @pmorph
    @pmorph Месяц назад

    a good cat designer says no a lot! Weight is the enemy and creeps up when owners starting adding stuff, air con, large fuel tanks, corian bench tops, icemakers etc, So if you keep it KISS and stay within the limits set by the designer it should hit the waterline marks.

  • @sailingagilis5229
    @sailingagilis5229 Месяц назад

    Congrats on your selection of catamaran to build! We have gone through much of the same process as you are, so many decisions 😅 You mentioned coming to Dubai, we are getting close to splash day here, building a Seaquest46, be great to meet and show you around! Cheers!

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks so much for the comment and such kind offer. I am actually on the way to SE Asia on Wednesday to chat to boat yards so changed plans. I am back in Dubai mid August on the way to a sailing trip to Sardinia so would LOVE to see the new boat and chat all things boat building if the offer still stands ! 🙏

  • @donaldlovegrove1754
    @donaldlovegrove1754 Месяц назад

    Hi Clint, look forward to following your plans and learning from your experience.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks Donald... aim is to keep building on the series as things progress this side. I'm just up the road from you, Sunshine Coast, so when I'm in Australia then feel free to reach out if you have any questions with how things are going.

  • @donaldlovegrove1754
    @donaldlovegrove1754 Месяц назад

    Hi Clint, nice meeting and chatting with you today at the Delos flip - enjoyed your informative video. Take care.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      So magic to meet you today at the Delos flip. Was great chatting and will head down those rabbit holes you mentioned in the next few days 😊🕵️

  • @bitkong9445
    @bitkong9445 Месяц назад

    „happy monday”?😂 almost as bad as happy pride summer

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Happy pride summer to you Big Boy 😘🏳‍🌈

  • @lightning9279
    @lightning9279 Месяц назад

    Great video. Here in America we have community colleges. They are mostly two year programs, but they also have classes for electrical, plumbing, welding etc. Some of those classes are a class a week for five wks. They are geared for people who want a basic understanding and not a profession in it. Over the last ten years I've heard guys with sailing channels who came to the USA to do these short classes. How to work on air conditioning is even a short class at many community colleges. I'm sure other countries have these too. Look into it. They are easy on the pocket book as well.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks so much for the comment. That's an amazing suggestion and I will definitely do the research on that one. I know once I get my head into things it will all make sense and also knowing myself know that I work best when following a structure. Thanks so much for the support and once again a great suggestion.

  • @lightning9279
    @lightning9279 Месяц назад

    Have you looked at Circa Marine out of NZ? They build commercial, yachts, small crafts....all aluminum.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks for the comment and suggestion. I have heard of them but I am trying to be cost conscious and avoid 1st world countries where I can. Having lived in Australia for the last 11 years I know how ridiculously expensive things are here, especially compared to SE Asia, and shake my head every time I come back here and $ 100 get me a dinner for the kids and not much else. Thanks so much for the recommendation and support 🙏

    • @ClintSimonsen
      @ClintSimonsen 23 дня назад

      Isn't that where Nahoa is getting built?

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny 22 дня назад

      I unfortunately am not to sure where Nahoa is getting their's built. From what I know they have not started yet.

  • @chamuel48
    @chamuel48 Месяц назад

    Love your train of thought. A bit of a reality check. Not that I ever had a drinking problem but this is applicable to so many things in life. So many addictions in the subconscious realm that controls mankind. I am here to follow your alu cat build but this a nice added bonus. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Belgium, land of beer (6oo breweries and counting for 11mil. inhabitants)

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks so much for the comment and support. Even though this channel is new and small I can see by the numbers that the non build/sailing videos aren't that popular but for me personally these messages are the most important ones so thanks for acknowledging that. I had a friend of mine who is a beer fan actually move from London to Belgium just for the beer so Sante 🍻. I was having a conversation with my 17 year old son last night and he summed it up perfectly when talking about some issue he was having at school... he said... "Humans are so compliant and obedient these days..." Thanks again for the support and for sharing your thoughts 🙏

  • @pmorph
    @pmorph Месяц назад

    Having built a 40' Pescott catamaran-- had the shell professionally built and then I fitted her out. You are dead right on KISS, all the extra stuff is just crap to go wrong. I worked as much as I could to only have stuff on the boat that I could fix. I had outboards, which I loved but not suitable for your boat. simple is sooooo much better. Finally have a think about daggerboards. They are more expensive to build but they make the boat soooooo much more enjoyable to sail and will get you out of trouble if you have to get off a lee shore in big weather. I got hit in huge winds off the Gold Coast and the daggerboards keep us connected to the water and even severely reefed down we were going hard on the wind. Mini keels just can't do this. Good luck with it. Phil

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Hey Phil. Thanks so much for the comment and and the support and also for sharing your valuable insight. Thanks for confirming that I am on the right path here with KISS. I'm actually seeing David this weekend at the Delos 2.0 launch so will pester him about Daggerboards... and of course my flybridge 🤣 I'm seeing a builder next week in Thailand and will be looking at a similar strategy. Get the structure built with rigging on and then move it to another site to get fitted out. Will be a LOT more hands on for sure and take longer I know but the reason I am going this path is that if/when shit breaks I know where to start looking at fixing things as right now I'm clueless ! Thanks again.

    • @pmorph
      @pmorph Месяц назад

      @@sailing.destiny Don't underestimate just how much there is to do building the interior, especially if you want it to look good. The hulls and shell are the easy and quick bit...You'll get pushback on daggerboards, they are more expensive to build, they are more moving parts, however the performance angle and the ability to pull them up for safety at sea reasons, I think, makes them a no brainer.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      @@pmorph from a time perspective I'm guesstimating 1/3 for the shell and then 2/3rds for the interior fit out. In your experience if that a realistic number ? Thanks again for your comment and support 🙏

    • @pmorph
      @pmorph Месяц назад

      @@sailing.destiny I think it's more. could be 1/4 ratio. Depends on how much they do on the interior like the insulation etc. AND, it depends on the quality of the fit out you want. For a 47 composite cat, I was quoted 7000 hours at least and probably, 1500 of that was building the hulls. The time is all in the finish. building furniture is pretty quick, making it look great takes time. Also, what are your thoughts on electrics? Are you going all electric or will you have gas cooking-- for me I'd go gas and also the simplest non electronic diesels you can get. Eg Beta or a kabota based engine, preferably with as little electronic componetry as you can. You can have a perfectly fine diesel engine that won't start because the computer "says no"

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks for the clarification on that. Was chatting to David de Villiers today at the Delos flip and some time estimates sound spot on. As for power system - I'm busy doing the homework on that now and will be in a future video. The plan is to go full lithium as both with the Delos 2.0 and Nahoa 55 there is a LOT of space for solar so I'm hoping that should be able to power up an army... but will let you know my conclusion in a video once I've done that research. As for engines... I am opting for Yanmar 57's and not going for the new fancy hydro options to KISS 🤣. Thanks again for the comment and valuable input 🙏

  • @Bigfish300
    @Bigfish300 Месяц назад

    Jip. Know that feeling. Lost 500 friends when I closed the pub at home. Also realized that 99 percent of sex happened because we were both drunk... Still has the odd drink, but rarely two.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Glad the content resonated with you and you've had a similar experience. Yip the whole "sober sex" thing is another LONG conversation as it can be very confrontational. When I was in my 45 and stopped drinking I realised that the last time I was intimate with someone for the first time and was sober was in my teens... crazy to think about it. Thanks for the support !

  • @tonyacerra2329
    @tonyacerra2329 Месяц назад

    Have you checked out the Portofino 52?

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks so much for the reply and support. Yes, I did check out the Portofino 52..... looks BEAUTIFUL as well. Check out this video that I recorded before going to visit David a 2 months ago where I discuss it and the other options I looked at ... ruclips.net/video/Q6FDh43TcsE/видео.html

  • @kirkb3473
    @kirkb3473 Месяц назад

    Hey there! So a very timely video, I just returned from South Africa visiting our build at the Nexus factory. So this is a very complicated subject, but a few things I’d add in would be: 1) Will you put the lightship displacement into the build contract? Yards like Nexus and HH will do this, but others like Outremer, Garcia, Portofino…will not. This isn’t a deal breaker but could be an indication that it’s probably not going to be as light as advertised. News flash…almost every boat manufacturer does this. 2) absolutely you need to stand on a boat that they have built, open up every hatch, behind every door, and in every compartment. The level of detail and finish is not the same in all boats by a wide margin. If you look through the interior of. Mumby (which is a fantastic performance cat) it’s very spartan and unfinished by comparison. You get what you pay for. 3) warranty- just understand by having a custom boat built you should spend 2 months close to the boat yard testing out the systems before leaving. Once you leave the proximity of the yard, it’s going to be on you…even though they yard might say they’ll help. Choose wisely and think long and hard about a one off custom build. 4) keep the electrical systems simple. Less is more…and for example look at the Balance Catamarans build series of the 526 from a couple years back. The level of attention is super important, and compare whoever is doing your build to what you see on world class builds like an HH55/Balance526/Kinetic54. 5) get a detailed bill of materials and go through it line by line. Damn..I could keep writing for hours, we should probably just have a zoom call as I’d be happy to help be a sounding board on some of these items. Cheers!

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Hey Kirk. So magic to hear from you again and thanks as always for taking the time to contribute with such valuable insight. I hope you had a magic trip to St Francis and South Africa in general and your baby is coming along nicely. I met the Nexus team earlier this year in Miami and they were a great bunch. I'd love to take you up on the offer to connect one on one if you have the time. Fire me an email to clint@sailingdestiny.com and then we can sync up via WhattsApp. I'm off to SE Asia next week to look at 3 shipyards so getting super excited for that ! Thanks again Sir

  • @Mikey63826
    @Mikey63826 Месяц назад

    did you check out the Mumby 48 from the Philippines? see sailing Life on Jupiter

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      I did yes, it was one of the many options I looked at. Super light weight and seems like great value for money for sure. Thanks so much for the comment and support 🙏

  • @MarvinNuto
    @MarvinNuto Месяц назад

    I am now following your journey.

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Magic to have you here Marvin... going to be a fun journey for sure !

  • @Bigfish300
    @Bigfish300 Месяц назад

    It is important to ask the shipyard the reason why they suggest a certain brand of product they suggest or prefer. If it is cost or ease of availability, stay away. If the answer is a personal relationship with the manufacturer, the answer is positive and favourable. This will become crucial in case of a failure. I think it is important to visit as many boatshows as possible to meet and establish relationships personally with as many as possible of the different suppliers and manufacturers of all the different possibilities

    • @sailing.destiny
      @sailing.destiny Месяц назад

      Thanks so much for the reply and valid points. I hear you on the boat shows... I've been to many and always get carried away looking at all the boats and not in the tent area with all the "boring stuff" 🤦‍♂️ Now that I've decided to go this path I cannot wait to visit my next boat show and get stuck into all the components rather than drooling over the cool boats. Thanks again for the input and support !